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CFO THOUGHT LEADER

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CFO THOUGHT LEADER is a podcast featuring firsthand accounts of finance leaders who are driving change within their organizations. We share the career journey of our spotlighted CFO guest: What do they struggle with? How do they persevere? What makes them successful CFOs? CFO THOUGHT LEADER is all about inspiring finance professionals to take a leadership leap. We know that by hearing about the successes — (and yes, also the failures) — of others, today’s CFOs can more confidently chart their own leadership paths across the enterprise and take inspired action.
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1118: Partnering for Growth: Finance Meets Customer-Centricity | Andrew Casey, CFO, Amplitude

Andrew Casey remembers a moment when colleagues truly looked to finance for leadership. At ServiceNow, a then‑$400 million company with little go‑to‑market infrastructure, the team faced a long list of missing elements: no functioning comp plan, no partner ecosystem, and no clear strategy for scaling sales. “Whenever people said they didn’t know how,” Casey recalls, “I started raising my hand and said, I don’t know either, but I know what we’re going to go do… and then we’re going to adjust as w...

Aug 03, 202557 min

1117: Building a Unicorn with a Finance Blueprint | Konstantin Dzhengozov, CFO, Payhawk

When Konstantin Dzhengozov turned down a corporate development role in the U.S., he wasn’t walking away from opportunity—he was running toward a different kind of growth. Having helped lead the FP&A function at a fast-scaling Bulgarian tech firm through its acquisition by a U.S. public company, Dzhengozov knew what came next if he stayed the course. But “the unknown… just felt right,” he tells us. So he stayed close to Bulgaria’s booming startup scene—and co-founded Payhawk. In the early day...

Jul 30, 202543 min

1116: The CFO Who Thinks in Full Color | Dan Zhang, CFO, ClickUp

When Dan Zhang joined ClickUp in 2021, she stepped into a company intent on unifying how the world works. Two years later, she entered the CFO office—just as ClickUp’s strategic bet on AI was beginning to reshape its platform and its future. ClickUp is not just a place where work is tracked, Zhang tells us—it’s “where work happens.” The company combines project management, chat, docs, whiteboards, calendars, and more in a single AI-enabled platform. And with the launch of ClickUp Brain Max, the ...

Jul 27, 202556 min

Why Finance Teams Must Learn Faster Than Ever | Tim Vipond, Co-Founder, CEO of CFI

When Tim Vipond was asked to help rebuild Newmont Goldcorp’s corporate model, the scale was daunting: “20 tabs across… each tab being many hundred rows deep,” he tells us. The model had to account for the intricate economics of mining—from extraction to refinement—and it all had to tie together in a single consolidated NAV model. It was a hands-on assignment that tested both his modeling expertise and his capacity to navigate complexity. That moment, Vipond tells us, helped shape his understandi...

Jul 23, 202536 min

1115: The Evolution of a Leader—One CFO Chapter at a Time | Lisa Cummins Dulchinos, CFO, Ayar Labs

When Lisa Cummins Dulchinos joined Ayar Labs, she knew translating deep tech into a business story would be central to her role. At a company where 85% of the nearly 200 employees hold PhDs, Dulchinos found herself among experts fluent in micro-ring resonators and laser physics. To explain what Ayar Labs does, she took a different approach. “It’s basically a computer chip that allows us to open up the bandwidth in a computing system,” she tells us. That chiplet—named TeraPHY—replaces traditional...

Jul 22, 202555 min

1114: Building a Smarter Funnel at Speed | Kevin Wall, CFO, Stax Payments

When Kevin Wall first stepped into industry from public accounting, it wasn’t by accident—it was through a client he already knew well. The company, in the midst of an ERP conversion and preparing to go public, saw in Wall someone who understood both their numbers and their needs. “They were familiar with me. I was familiar with them,” he tells us. That early pivot from audit into operational finance set the tone for a career defined by depth over speed. Wall spent 13 years at Alcatel-Lucent and...

Jul 16, 202545 min

1113: The Strategic Leap from Finance Partner to Business Architect: Josh Schauer, CFO, insightsoftware

When Josh Schauer joined Longview, a Toronto-based software company, he had no idea that a transformative chapter of his career was just a few years away. In 2020, Longview was acquired by insightsoftware—a turning point that brought both uncertainty and opportunity. “It’s kind of equal parts fear and optimism,” he tells us. “You wonder: Am I going to have a job coming out of this?” But his then-CFO advocated for him, making clear to the acquiring company, “they can’t lose you.” That moment, Sch...

Jul 13, 202552 min

1112: The Value of Seeing Finance from the Front Lines | Nathan Winters, CFO, Zebra Technologies

When Nathan Winters led a supply chain team earlier in his career, he noticed something that would shape his leadership style: “The credibility you get by the operating leaders when they see you out in the field… is incredibly important.” Whether visiting customers, walking a manufacturing floor, or sitting in on operating meetings, Winters found that physical presence fostered trust—and that trust gave finance a real seat at the table. Today, as CFO of Zebra Technologies, Winters continues to e...

Jul 09, 202538 min

1111: Inside the M&A Playbook: Why People Come First | James Redfern, CFO Reltio

Nearly a year into his CFO role at Reltio, James Redfern still feels like he’s catching up. “I’ve made some progress, but I’m definitely not where I… need to get,” he tells us. That steep learning curve was exactly what drew him to the company. Redfern didn’t find the Reltio opportunity through recruiters. Instead, it surfaced during a casual conversation with a mentor. “I was actually looking at something else,” he recalls. “And he said, ‘Oh, if you’re looking… I’m on the board of a company tha...

Jul 06, 202557 min

The CFO Role in Scaling AI Curiosity

How are finance chiefs steering the AI revolution? In this fast-paced special edition of CFO Thought Leader, host Jack Sweeney spotlights Packer Fastener CFO Brian Hogeland and LinkedIn’s top AI voice Allie K. Miller. Together they unpack why 2023’s “just try ChatGPT” mantra is obsolete, how agent-orchestrated systems will reshape mid-market operations, and where cash-savvy CFOs can safely place AI bets today. Tune in for fifteen minutes of practical insight, provocative foresight, and career-de...

Jul 02, 202516 min

1110: When Leadership Mattered | Amanda Whalen, CFO, Klaviyo

Amanda Whalen’s first unit CFO role began with a question. “You’re not a finance technical person,” her company’s president told her, “but you’re the strongest leader on my team. Will you be willing to be the CFO and help me transform the finance function?” She accepted. Over the following year, Whalen tells us, her team tackled three major initiatives: fixing broken cost accounting at a dairy plant, realigning sales incentives to drive margin, and overhauling the P&L reporting structure to ...

Jun 29, 202552 min

From Flailing to AI Forward Motion - A Planning Aces Episode

In this Planning Aces episode, Jack Sweeney and co-host Brett Knowles spotlight three CFOs who are advancing their organizations' FP&A capabilities through thoughtful AI adoption. Andrea Hecht of CSAA Insurance discusses aligning generative AI with enterprise strategy and efficiency. Matthias Steinberg of MindBridge explores combining machine learning and LLMs in finance workflows. Brian Hogeland of Packer Fastener highlights how AI training and grassroots adoption can foster a tech-forward ...

Jun 27, 202541 min

1109: Building Finance Teams for Scale, Speed, and Smarts | Larry Roseman, CFO, Thumbtack

When the Silicon Valley Bank crisis erupted in early 2023, Larry Roseman was already well-acquainted with market upheaval. A member of the CFO class appointed around 2020—just as the pandemic began—Roseman had weathered previous storms. He began his career amid the dot-com collapse, then advanced through the 2008 financial crisis. “Scar tissue helps,” he tells us. So when he landed in Palm Springs for a tennis tournament and learned SVB was in freefall—taking all of Thumbtack’s cash with it—his ...

Jun 25, 202545 min

1108: Building Value in a Disrupted Industry | Kent Hoskins, CFO, Concord

Back in 2003, when a recruiter lined up Kent Hoskins for a finance interview at Boosey & Hawkes, he came prepared to discuss guitar manufacturing. Instead, the executive immediately began quizzing him on music royalties—the recruiter had apparently misunderstood the brief. Hoskins didn’t get the job—at first. But two days later, he got a call: the selected candidate had quit after just 24 hours. Hoskins stepped in. That twist marked a pivotal entry into the world of music IP—one that would s...

Jun 22, 20251 hr 3 min

1107: When Finance Leads with a CEO Mindset | John Rettig, CFO, Bill

What sets John Rettig’s CFO journey apart from most is not just its length—spanning more than two decades—but its unusual symmetry. His CFO career roughly divides into two decade-long tenures: first helping scale a digital advertising firm from $15 million to $250 million in revenue, and now serving as CFO of Bill, where he’s helped lead the company from startup to public market success. When Rettig joined Bill, the company had just $13 million in revenue and a modest employee base. What drew hi...

Jun 18, 202549 min

1106: Scaling Smarter: Inside the Finance Revenue Engine | Tim Ritters, CFO, Gong

During his decade at Google, Tim Ritters worked at the intersection of product and finance, helping to launch financial systems in collaboration with engineering, marketing, and product teams. The role gave him early exposure to cross-functional work and large-scale data environments. “Day one, you’re working cross-functionally,” Ritters tells us. He adds that this mindset became foundational to his approach going forward. When Ritters joined Gong in 2019, he says the company had already begun c...

Jun 15, 202541 min

1105: The Steady Climb: Scaling with Purpose in FinTech | Rene Ho, CFO, SAP Taulia

It’s no secret CFOs frequently exit soon after a major acquisition—especially when a larger enterprise takes the reins. But Rene Ho stayed. Ho had been CFO of Taulia, a working capital fintech, when it was still an independent company. After helping lead the firm through its acquisition by SAP, he chose to stay on, guiding the company through integration while preserving what made Taulia unique. It’s a reality Ho doesn’t resist—instead, he works to make those connections scalable. That mindset r...

Jun 11, 202548 min

1104: Navigating Cardinal Health’s Growth Journey | Aaron Alt, CFO, Cardinal Health

As Cardinal Health nears its second anniversary since the company’s first investor day under CFO Aaron Alt’s leadership, steady progress has been made in its ambitious transformation. Alt reflects on the company’s trajectory since his appointment, saying, “We’ve deployed several billion dollars in acquisitions to drive our strategy.” This shift highlights the company’s focus on specialty distribution and related services—areas Alt tells us offer higher margins and greater growth potential than t...

Jun 08, 202539 min

Redefining Efficiency: The Three Dimensions of AI ROI - A Planning Aces Episode

In this episode of Planning Aces, co-hosts Jack Sweeney and Brett Knowles spotlight the FP&A strategies and AI adoption journeys of three CFOs—Gillian Munson (Vimeo), Dan Fletcher (Planful), and Chad Gold (FullStory). Each finance leader discusses how AI is reshaping their planning processes, from accelerating automation and revenue generation to transforming cross-functional collaboration. Brett introduces a framework for evaluating AI ROI across three dimensions: operating cost reduction, ...

Jun 06, 202544 min

1103: Turning Anomalies into Advantage | Matthias Steinberg, CFO, MindBridge

When Matthias Steinberg entered the CFO office at MindBridge in 2022, the audit files displayed on his laptop were already being processed by the company’s own AI. KPMG, he adds, was using the same platform to automate journal‑entry testing—work “traditionally done manual.” That shift marked “a big step toward continuous audit,” Steinberg tells us. The platform, he explains, monitors “all relevant financial flows” for two audiences. External audit firms—including “a number of the top 100 in Nort...

Jun 04, 202559 min

1102: Navigating Growth and Risk in a Member-Driven Business | Andrea Hecht, CFO, CSAA Insurance

When Andrea Hecht walks into a finance meeting, she’s not preparing for earnings calls or shareholder Q&A. Instead, her focus is inward—on aligning every financial decision with a mission that begins and ends with AAA members. CSAA Insurance, where Hecht serves as CFO, operates in 23 states and the District of Columbia. It’s not publicly traded. “We’re technically owned by our policyholders,” Hecht tells us, noting that CSAA distributes almost exclusively through AAA clubs to AAA members. Th...

Jun 01, 202549 min

1101: Turning Home Equity into a Platform, Not a Product | Tom Egan, CFO, Hometap

When Tom Egan walks a homeowner through the math—“If your house is worth a million dollars and you owe five hundred thousand,” he says—the traditional options surface quickly: load the balance sheet with a costly home‑equity loan or sell and hope you can find somewhere new to live. That binary choice, he explains, is exactly what Hometap set out to upend. The company’s flagship home‑equity investment lets owners “access the liquidity in their home without having to sell or take on debt,” Egan te...

May 28, 20251 hr

1100: Lines, Not Dots: Turning Optionality into Outcomes | Chad Gold, CFO, Fullstory

Imagine an accounts‑receivable clerk clicking through four different systems just to finish one routine task. Chad Gold sees that bottleneck instantly. Fullstory’s newly launched Workforce product maps every mouse‑stroke of such employee journeys, then surfaces friction points so companies can “make them more productive, so they can do even more value‑added things,” Gold tells us. The scene encapsulates the finance leader’s thesis: data depth wins. “The companies that have the capabilities to ca...

May 25, 202551 min

ON LOCATION: AI on the Frontlines - Live Insights from Planful Perform25

Broadcasting from Planful’s Perform 25 conference in Miami, CFO Thought Leader presents frontline finance insights in an on‑location special. CEO Grant Halloran rejects the narrative that generative AI replaces people; instead he calls it the only viable antidote to a looming three‑million‑professional accounting shortage and collapsing CPA pipeline. Halloran outlines a 30‑second, company‑wide forecasting experience that lifts productivity without swelling headcount. CFO Dan Fletcher echoes the ...

May 23, 202555 min

1099: Turning Back‑of‑House Data into Front‑of‑House Wins | Emma Whelan, CFO, MarginEdge

When a restaurant’s weekly salmon order suddenly spikes in price, Emma Whelan wants chefs adjusting menus the next morning—not tallying losses a month later. “The system will alert them if the price of salmon (has) gone up unexpectedly,” she tells us, describing MarginEdge’s real‑time cost engine. It is a small but telling vignette from Whelan’s first months as CFO, and it captures the company’s wider ambition: “MarginEdge wants to create a world where restaurant operators can focus on great foo...

May 21, 202555 min

1098: Pandemic Rollercoaster Veteran Champions Smarter MRI Suites | Jill Woodworth, CFO, Prenuvo

When Peloton’s stock debuted in 2019, CFO Jill Woodworth believed the playbook was air‑tight. She had shifted fiscal calendars, re‑segmented reporting and shaped statements that “tell a story,” she tells us. Then COVID hit. Orders “flew nine‑fold overnight,” marketing was switched off, and customer focus narrowed to a single metric: getting bikes from order to doorstep. Wait times ballooned to “four or five months,” but earlier bets—a vertically integrated Taiwanese factory and Peloton‑owned del...

May 18, 20251 hr 5 min

1097: The Mutual Advantage in a Cyclical Market | Kevin Ingram, CFO, FM

For nearly ten years, Kevin Ingram knocked on S&P’s door, arguing that FM’s A‑plus rating undervalued its balance sheet. Other agencies, such as Fitch, already had the mutual insurer at AA. Each visit, Ingram presented fresh data; each time, the agency hesitated, wary of revising a long‑standing mark. Last summer, six months after FM dropped “Global” from its name, S&P finally moved, lifting the company to AA‑minus—a hard‑won validation. Throughout the campaign, Ingram stressed a core be...

May 14, 202543 min

1096: Why Usage Beats Revenue in Video SaaS | Gillian Munson, CFO, Vimeo

When Gillian Munson pictures a Vimeo customer, she doesn’t start with a filmmaker, she imagines an insurance company or a corner grocery store owner uploading a training clip into Vimeo’s ever thirsty player, and hitting publish without ever surrendering control—or ad space—to a third‑party network. That simple embed workflow, she tells us, explains why “eight of the ten largest healthcare companies” and a widening roster of retailers, insurers and media giants now trust Vimeo to keep their foot...

May 11, 202550 min

Built for Turbulence: Finance Planning in Motion - A Planning Aces Episode

This Planning Aces episode explores how finance leaders navigate volatility without drifting into political cross‑currents like tariffs. Prologis CFO Tim Arndt explains why e‑commerce triples warehouse demand and how real‑estate strategies must adapt. Genworth CFO Jerome Upton shows how disciplined leverage and balanced product exposure turn rate uncertainty into opportunity while guarding against inflationary claim spikes. Flexport CFO Stuart Leung reveals the weekly two‑hour operating cadence ...

May 09, 202543 min

1095: Turning Volatility into Cross‑Border Opportunity | Bea Ordonez, CFO, Payoneer

Bea Ordonez still recalls the whirlwind of her first CFO post: a raw fintech start‑up where, in two short years, she recruited “over a hundred people,” built the processes they would follow and decided what kind of culture would bind them, she tells us. Immersing herself in every workflow taught her that finance leadership begins on the frontline—listening, questioning, then turning messy reality into structure. That builder’s reflex shapes her playbook at Payoneer today. After a decade as a glo...

May 07, 202548 min
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