Also there is a paper that is called Elbow. Oh yeah, elbows and assholes. The anal work ethic in Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho and I will be reading that. Wow, this is. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to Infinite Quest. Hi, everybody. It's me, Katie. Yes, Hi. Hello. It's me. Hey, good. Welcome to a new season of of Infinite Quest. It will be all about buttholes. Welcome to Infinite Quest Season 3, all about buttholes. Oh boy, is that a? Is that A tag?
I feel like we could cut that part and put it after the credits at the end, you know, because. That was a lot. That was a lot that went so hard, right? So I feel like we can't use like, yeah, we might have to put it at the end and then like content warning. Content warning, yeah, because I also feel bad for Anne. Hesh, Yeah, you know, because I'm. But how is that? Now, the original lady from Psycho, right? That was the remake. Who is the original lady in Psycho? Phyllis Diller.
No cats. Geraldine Ferraro. Janet Lee Leg Vera Miles. I don't know it wasn't. I don't know which one gets famous. Right. I mean, she was super famous in the 60s, but I don't, you know. Also originals. You know that like a lot of people don't know who, like Katherine Hepburn and Jimmy Stewart and Carrie Cranton, I like. Barely do, frankly.
That's well, you also have a unique ability to check out of movies and I think it's your ADHD versus my autistic need to complete things 'cause you will just walk away from a movie. And that's fascinating to me, 'cause I cannot do. I will walk away. From yeah, like I've tried to show you the Philadelphia Story like three times and every single time you get bored, like 12 minutes. Lala land too. Yeah, Lala land baby driver. That's another one. You. Just lost cause a couple tries, yeah.
I think a couple tries, yeah. Well, I mean, movies are scary to me in general just 'cause it's, it's, you know, two hours of perhaps having to sit still. That was a big like how I think now. So we've been in LA for three months now and this is the longest that I have been in the house with only an ADHD person in like 4 years. Three years. Because I've been with you and Chris for a while and Chris doesn't have ADHD. So when we're watching a movie, we're the only people going on.
I forgot the thing thing. So like I have something to contrast it with. But now that I've been in LA for three weeks or three months and only living with you, who also has ADHD, like it takes us a long time to watch a movie. Like I'm noticing it is very common that we it takes us two or three attempts. It's weird because I think it also depends on how, how like emotionally invested I am in it because like the other day, this is this is a very specific
example. So the other day you've been singing that fucking song from Family Guy, but it was a, it was, it was a parody of the piano lesson scene from The Music Man. Which scene from Family Guy? Brian, I think your standards are ridiculously high. And then Brian goes, I'd rather be alone with someone who doesn't get me. Blah. Blah. And that's all. And I was like. That's why they knew which scene. That's a reference from the music player. Yeah, nobody knows that scene.
They know the Family Guy. I'm sorry I'm being a joke. So I tried, dear listener, here's what happened. I tried to show Eric and he was like he I don't know what you were looking for, but you were looking for something very specific. And so I played it and I just watched you pay 0% attention to it the entire time. But I was like, really enjoying it because this is like a thing from my childhood that is like really important to me. And you were just like looking for stuff.
And I was like, that's fine. And it was just like, really? Funny, what do you mean by looking for stuff? You were like looking for something. I really, I thought we were in the car. No, we were. We were watching it on YouTube, on the TV. Oh well, what do you I we listened to that song in the car or no, we listened to a different theater song. It was. I don't. Remember which one that what should? What should What do you get? What do you get? Oh yeah, the yeah, the opener,
the railroad. Yeah, I think we listened to that. I'm mentioning them up, but I'll also point out books that you did just say those words out loud. I watched you not pay attention. So I'm curious, when you're watching me not pay attention, what does that look like? Can you be more specific? Yeah, well, I mean, I'll tell you where I'm going.
With that if you want that. Because I, we, we have talked a lot before, but like here on TikTok or wherever that like an idiotic person very often can either pay attention or look like they're paying attention. You know what I mean? Like if I'm looking at somebody. Paying attention, that's the thing. Well, that's the thing, isn't it? Yes, I say what? Like if I wasn't paying attention then I wouldn't know the song now just I tried to do, I tried to do a Rain Man, I
didn't. Then I wouldn't have all of the lines. Member about them apples that's. Right. Goodwill Hut No. But it's here. But I mean, obviously I don't have a melody because it's the same where his family got. But I do remember then they'd go into a duet at the end. Was it? Was it was it all my opinions and advice? Good job. And then the other woman go OK maybe I wasn't paying as much attention as I thought. I'm sorry. Well I don't consider the lyrics to.
I think that's The thing is when I listen to music I listen to melody 1st and lyrics second. And since I already associate the lyrics with the Family Guy episode, I wasn't really listening to it. I was just so like I feel like I'm familiar with it but I'm not cuz all the lyrics in my head are Family Guy lyrics. That's like a Weird Al Yankovic has ruined so many songs. Oh yeah, I can't ever sing American Pie. I always have to sing the Jedi version. Yeah, absolutely. So am I. Bologna.
Amish paradise? That's another one. Classic. That's that's when I think of a Weird Al song. That's the song I think of. See, my first one is the Jedi American Pie. That one. 'S really good in there. Yeah, I remember like a. Long, long time ago. Yeah, she's far away, OK. Here's like some deep, deep cringe core. Kate Lord, I am old enough that I remember printing out the like, I was like a kid.
But I I heard that song and I thought it was so goddamn funny that I printed out the lyrics from the Internet. And I took them upstairs and I forced my parents to listen to me sing it to them live because I thought it was so funny. And they were very polite in letting me get all the way to the end of the song. But I still remember that I was like, printed out like crappy, like print. You know what I mean? That is.
Delightful it was. So awkward I. Think I did that with I was in a show called Ellis Island in like 4th or 5th grade that was written by the music teacher at our school Miss Kemeny, which shout out to Miss Kemeny. She was great. I know this is not like she wrote a whole she was awesome. She wrote a bunch of shows that we did, which at the time we didn't realize like how much effort it takes to write a 1A show, but 2A show that can be done by like. Middle schoolers, we.
Were elementary school was my God. Yeah, the oldest people in the world were 9 and 10. So she has to write a play that also scans when done fucking terribly by 10 year olds. So like, I mean, what a weird assignment douche, right? Like, wow. OK, so if they do it right, it's going to be great, but they're not going to do it right. So it's like a game theory thing. I don't know. Oh yeah. I remember I used to sing parts of that in front of my friends. Now I think of it, I, I did a
decent amount. I remember I did a dance to Ba ba ba. I did like a dance my grandmother got me. Now five I think is what it was. Now that's what I call Music 5. And that song opens with a violin, violin intro. And then I remember I listened to that much of it and went and I told Grammy or somebody told Grammy that I didn't like the CD and and then I listened to it again and I let the song play through and it was ba ba ba ba. I mean, it was a life changing experience hearing that song,
obviously, obviously. And so I just remember Grammy coming up to me and laughing, seeing now that I now liked it. She I remember I, I can picture her face, seeing her smile and like she would have tapped me on the shoulder and go you, you thought I would buy you Grammy music. She said specifically that you thought I would buy you Grammy music. And I think that's because what I call it is Grammy music. I. Believe many of those songs have won Grammys. Oh. My God how did I not?
I think that song literally is a Grammy. Did hey Siri did? What is the name of it? Is that song called Bye Bye Bye Just? Called bye bye bye. Hey Siri, did the song Bye bye Bye bye *NSYNC win any Grammys? And **NSYNC never won a Grammy. That's that feels like like Leonardo DiCaprio waiting for his Oscar. I know dude, they might sound crazy but it ain't no lie. Baby Well, aren't they like going back on tour? Are they?
I don't. I swear to God they were like going I've they were, but they're doing like Tide Pod commercials now. Well. I mean, you gotta, you know, yeah, you gotta pay your bills as you read. Sync 2025 tour question mark Johnny Wright hinted at Reunion Tour and Sync 2025 tour NSYNC's comeback. Yeah, and Sync goes live on stage in 20 days, two hours, 5 minutes and 10 seconds. Gosh. Can you believe that *NSYNC paid us 15 bucks per 1000 views to plug their show, their new tour
in their podcast? Can you believe they did that? I don't because they didn't put a record. Is it? But it's like it's not their website. It it feels a little fake weird. But also Speaking of Seth. I've gone too far down this. I'm sorry. I'm bringing it back. I was going to. Say, Speaking of Seth MacFarlane, how you have you been doing in LA? Pretty, pretty good. I guess I'm sorry Katie is not working for Seth MacFarlane. I just thought I'd be.
I was curious what you would do with that segue. It just took me a minute. I was like, huh, Yeah, the. Joke was that there's no how. Am I doing in LA? I'm doing really really well. I am still struggling with creator burnout, I think, but this has been really edifying and I think really educational. And I feel like we just need to do like, a Kate and Eric update corner. Yeah. You know what, how far into the we're only 15 minutes. Well, I would have said 1/2 an
hour. Well. You like started over a lot of I guess. We did, yeah. I still don't know what the hell we're going to do with that. 6 minutes maybe. Maybe you've already heard it. You're listening. Put. It on the Patreon maybe, which we still have. Which we still have. And shout out to anybody who has stayed on the Patriot. It actually has been helpful. And I know we suck at saying thank you and stuff, but you know when you're. Thanks for need. Gas on the road and stuff.
It's nice to be like, oh that's right, the infinite quest card. Yeah, it's been really help us. Move to do more infinite question. Which we are now officially doing well what I. Think is cool back in.
The swing of it, yeah. Over the last year, what I think was uncomfortable, but also, you know, good in, in, in its own ways was I think you and I started developing in our own directions, like sort of independently from each other, which meant less infinite quest shit and, and from, in my case,
less like public online shit. But now coming back, like, I don't want to just tell anybody what you have going on, but like, you know, I, I have an entirely new career that I'm engaged in and that's fucking awesome. And yeah, you know, along with all the other stuff we're already doing the whole time, it's like, yeah, anyways, but. Yeah, it's like we've, I think it's true the whole time doing stuff and now the doing of the stuff is common backgrounds.
Like we wrote the book, we wrote the book. Which we should have a published date for, like we were supposed to get at the end of last week, yeah. We we actually planned the year come back because we thought that we would have a date for the publication of the book, but we don't still. So we promise though, at some point we will share that news with you, I feel. Like I'm fucking lying at this point. I. Know me too.
I feel bad. I feel like we're just like, Oh yeah, my book that lives in Canada. Yeah, exactly right. You know what? I mean you. Know. No, we went to summer camp together. She's totally real. Like I just, I, yeah, I'm like, I don't know. It'll be. So it'll be really nice to get a publication date. It should be in the next couple of weeks. Dear listeners. What if this is the funniest fucking thing? Well, the UK, the UK by the way, dear UK listeners, but also coming to you.
And the word color will have AU in it just for you UK citizens. And curb will be spelled with AK. It's just confusing. Just cause and you'll pronounce the word herbs. Herbs. I bet we say the word armor in the book. I can't remember a specific instance where I wrote the word. I'm sure that we say herbs, and so technically speaking, when we do the audio book, we'll have to say herbs. Herbs and aluminium. Aluminium. That's another one. And vitamins.
And medical bill question marks. Health insurance question mark. What's health insurance? I was saying you mean the NHS? OK. Yeah, that's cool. I feel like we should bring out like a skeleton with a wig on and be like, look, it's our book deal. Like the whole time the book deal has been this skeleton with a wig on that cuz a psycho you know? I didn't get that one but I appreciate it Or.
Like imagine a person being who talks about like their friend, like all the time, and you finally come over their house and then and then like their. Friend all. Yeah, yeah. Or like a an orange or something. Like a murder. Like a murder. Oh, hi, Frank. Yeah. Like, that's our book deal, yeah. That's what our yeah, it kind of
feels. Like the book is out and it's like a piece of I. Would say I don't know if you saw but this very day, this very morning we got an e-mail from the UK publishers and we started reffing. Too hard for me to convey this information. Oh yes, they are planning for a mid August 25 release.
That's and so that seems like probably around like I would imagine they come out around the same time, unless it's like where they, you know, we released it like a week earlier in the UK for test audiences, but I don't know how many of that works. I think that might just be movies too. Also, I don't think you know. Movies, they come out earlier and how do they deal with spoilers really? It's so easy for somebody to just, you know, UK tweet which is. Sometimes they change the versions.
Professional podcaster Katie, a source, left her phone on noise. What a bitch. How long do you think it's been since we last looked at the time? Like 4 it almost. Exactly. Yeah, it's been 4 1/2. I was curious. I thought I'd been that. Felt really low. I lowballed myself. I was going to say like 9 but I was like that probably is wrong. But yeah, so mid August. But yeah, anyway, we're back. We're back crowdsourcing our apartment that we're in right now.
It has its fall backs. It's not a huge apartment, but it does have really, really, really tall ceilings, like 25. Like right now, if I look up, this is 25 feet above me, you can actually hear the OK, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put a I'm gonna put it whatever. Never want. But yeah, there's a really cool echo in the room. You can't hear it on the microphone. It. I like it very much. It's very pleasing to my brain. But we.
I want to hang a big thing. I want to hang like a Big Blue whale, like something weird and large that you could never just have unless you had a big, you know, I would say just so you can picture it to your listener, probably like a 13 by 13 by 16 rectangular prism. So the ends of the rectangular prism are a 16 foot by 16 foot square. And, and that's not the whole room. That's, that's the amount of free space. Like under that is where the couch is and all that stuff.
I'm just saying because if anybody has any sweet ideas, I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to think of something and. That concludes Eric's life updates. He wants a whale. Whales, whales shout out to. Extraordinary Attorney Wu, you've been binging through that show. I finally decided to watch it, and I find it to be delightful. And it's very delightful. It has its problems, it has its moments like everything does, but same with Astrid. Astrid fucking. I love that show. Oh yeah, I forgot about that
show. Very. Similar concepts also, did you want to finish your life updates? No, I mean, I just, I do. I just don't want to feel like I, I'm talking about myself the whole time you're you've been blowing up, son. I just know that you're not allowed to talk about a lot of the things that you're doing so. I don't want to pour. I can definitely talk about other parties, please. So hello dear listeners. So some things have changed in my life. I am out here in Lai have a
column in Playboy magazine. Now, actually this very day I had a meeting with my editor and the executive editor and we're talking about my writing more for them because they really like what I'm doing. And what I am doing is writing a column about neurodivergency and disability and sex and intimacy. And so please go check that out. I will be linking that on all of my socials. I also obviously we're still in
the midst of a book deal. We're getting ready once we have the publication date, we're going to be ha cha cha cha cha cha, talking books, talking books. Oh, I was going to say planning the book tour. So we need to start hearing from people about where they want us to go. But I also have another podcast now and it's through the understood.org network. And it is a podcast network by women and for women with ADHD,
especially late diagnosed women. My podcast is called Sorry I Missed This and it is about ADHD and how it impacts relationships, communication, and intimacy. And I am immensely proud of it for one of two reasons. One, because now there is a Direct Line to super useful, super educational content without all the bullshitting around that we do. But then also it means that Eric and I can use Infinite Quest to kind of go back to our roots and, you know, fuck about a little more.
So, you know, we'll still do education stuff, but we're also just going to kind of do it in our way, which is, you know, talking about both. It's, I don't know if we can reference that because I don't know where it's going. But I also like the idea that there's not a segment about well, actually we, I feel like we've given enough information where you could reasonably deduce what it was that we were talking about. But then also like then if you
listen, yeah. But then we don't have to graphically open after a year absence with like a 7 minute riff about butt holes, yeah. And plus, like this person, this is a known person and I feel like she doesn't want everybody to know. Yeah, she's like an actress. She's an actress, so you know. But yeah, Bubs, you've been crushing this here and I'm really proud of you. Sorry, I was just looking something up to make sure that I had the person's name right if I was going to say a person's
name. What was the person's name? Yeah. Also out of context, like I was just thinking, it's interesting. I apologize because socially I was on my phone for part of your time, but the listener doesn't know that. So like for them I was like out of nowhere. Yeah, yeah. But. I wasn't really proud of you even crushing it all, but just so well earned and. I'm, I really want them to be successful.
Like I'm really scared about it. Like it's weird because like the podcast is very like, like not like formal, but it's very produced. Like there is like a team of people who are like working on this podcast and we get in like experts and like, you know, like that kind of thing. And so it's like wild because I still feel just like me, but then there's like this staff of people who are like doing this
podcast. And then my experience with the podcast is this where we just like 5 on the couch and like put it up, you know, like just. Straight high octane fucking vibes. Dude bro. Speaking of which, we all so have a new energy drink that we'd like to. But what's our energy drink called? Infinite quench. Infinite. Oh that's good. I was just thinking oops. I don't know why that's so funny. We just called oops oops. For people that say oops all the time, it's kind of weird.
Like that really is an ADHD fucking name. Flavors that you can purchase for Oops. I think it's all gonna be wrong, OK? I think is important when it's gonna be like, it's gonna be like blue watermelon, OK? You know, like, oops, it was supposed to be blue Raspberry. We have another one that's gonna be Seth Rogen's breath, but I think is gonna be really popular. OK? Yeah, I think that one's gonna be really good.
I think we have. We have another one that's just called Liam Neeson's gravelly voice. I have a drink that one. That'd be a good. One that'd be. Good. I have a very particular set of drinks and flavors you think? Alec Baldwin in 30 Rock. I guess I do. It's not what Liam Neeson tonsils. Why am I wearing a tux? It's after six. I'm not a farmer. Exactly, but now I'm starting. To get to be Batman. It's there's a fine line.
There's a fine line. And then if you go too far around, then you wind up with like, I don't know, like a rock. Yeah, a rock. A rockman. Totally. It starts starts with Liam Neeson and then gets to Jack Donaghy and then gets to Batman, which I should say is an order that will surprise you. Shout out to Batman. Shout out to anybody who likes Batman. That's a joke for two people. That's a. Joke. I would say at least four people you think watching listening to
this show. Yeah, I guess that's true, yeah. But anyway, about my super vulnerable monologue about how badly I want these projects. Sorry, I was riffing. What is success look to look like to? Like I don't know, I just like, it's really cool, right? But it's also just, you know, I'm still me. And so it's just like weird cuz it doesn't feel like anything
just doesn't feel like anything. It just is like OK, like today I met with the executive editor of Playboy and he was like, I really like your stuff and I really want you to write for this magazine cuz we are really impressed. And I was like, OK, like, I just, I wish that there was like a way that I could like internalize things. And I just don't know how to do it.
Like I really don't. And it's, it's really like, I don't want to say like, it's hard to like get to me, but it's just, I don't know, like it's like, I wish that there was like a place where I could go, OK, I have succeeded to the point where I'm allowed to be proud of myself. And I was like the other day I was making some dear listeners, we are going, I will put this somewhere else because I'm not going to even go into all the shit that I'm doing next month.
But like, I was like making like my little like convention handouts. And I had to like add, I had to add like the Bbci had to add like, you know, the Washington Post. I had to like Add all the little like as seen ends. And like, it's this very like graphic representation, literally of like all of the stuff that I have done that is noteworthy and important and cool. And I was like, I should probably be working harder though, like that, you know what
I mean? Like it's just, it's really frustrating because I'm like, I keep looking at my life and be like, this is fucking dope. This is like the best possible version of my life that I'm living right now. I'm so happy and I'm so fulfilled. But like, when I think about it as like a concept, I'm like, well, and maybe it will all go away tomorrow, like, you know, well. It's always good. Well, I think I'm. Going to shake my protein drink
into the microphone. Nice infinite quench if we made can that be your first merch for 2024? Is infinite quench merch. That's pretty funny. That's really infinite quench. Infinite quench it. Does kind of it is fun to say, but I would say just then Bubs you, you should at the end there, you know, but when I think about it, yada, yada, yada, But you know, I think that's The thing is you're you're you're thinking
something. So of course you're not feeling something because you're thinking something which is necessary. You can't do those things at the same time, but like it doesn't work. I've I've. I think I've very often. Like I don't know how to feel pride in my body, you know, like I've gotten to the point where like I can feel happy in my body. I can feel sad in my body. Hashtag touch of the tism. But like that's like part of it is like I think it's like that like autistic sensory thing.
And like, the more that I've started like unpacking, like the range of my like autistic experience as opposed to like my ADHD experience, that's a lot where I'm like, I don't know what I'm feeling, you know? And it's just like, I, so I don't know, like how to like, what does pride feel like? Doesn't feel like anything because I'm like, of course I have succeeded because that is what I set out to do is I have succeeded and now I will continue to succeed because I'm,
that is what I expected myself. But that's not pride. That's just expectation. And confidence in your ability to meet those expectations. Yeah, but then like massive crushing disappointment if I don't get the thing. But like The thing is like like being on drop out. Like being on drop out is a really, really good example because like I desperately I fucking want to be on drop out.
So God damn bad, right? Is like goals, but like if I don't get on drop out, then I'm going to continue to beat myself up for not getting on drop out. I'm going to continue to be like, oh, you need to work harder. You need to do more in order to get on drop out. Maybe drop out just doesn't like me. Maybe drop out, drop out has no interest in working with me and that is totally OK. And that's really valid. But like the expectation that I have set for myself is like, I
would like to be on drop out. So therefore I have to work as hard as I possibly can until I until I do. But The thing is, and I already know this is then when I would get on drop out, I'd be like, OK, yeah. Well, I. I It's so frustrating, yeah. Oh my God, it's it's so. Frustrating, it sounds. Extremely frustrating, yeah. I'm tired all the time. Well. I think a couple, a couple
things, three things. One, and I'm probably going to forget the 2nd 2. By the time I finish the first one, they're already starting to get fuzzy.
But I was thinking like as as a model maker, it's like, let's say you're a person who make, who gets and makes models, whether they're Lego models or like model ships or whatever that that person might ask themselves, why is it that I think so much about all the models I haven't made, but I never sit and think about the models that I have made because you've already made them. There's nothing to be done like sitting and thinking about how cool that model is.
Like cool, it's fun, but there's nothing to be done about that. That is not an actionable thing. So for you, I think once you have done things, sitting there and thinking about how cool it is that you have done those things, might well, I don't want to tell you how you feel, but like, what's the point in that? You know what, what do I do about that?
But I also, I also don't think that's the goal though, and I don't think that's what client is, but I think that's that's sort of when you bring it up to the intellectual sphere, it starts. I think it's things like that start losing their value because you're like, what, what functional value was there to to thinking about things that have already happened and aren't going to you know, I've done that. Now what? There's nothing for me to do about it.
Whereas wanting to be on drop out, there's a lot you can do about that. There's emails you can send and content you can make and whatever the fuck. Extremely. Awkward DMS you can. Extremely awkward DMS like I am sorry, don't know me, but but seriously, so I think I think that's right is just you're a doer. You're a very pragmatic doer person and you attack things head on and you can't attack trying to find pride head on, I think well. That's annoying. It should not work, yeah.
But also, I've already forgotten the other two points. But but I, I also think pride. I think in trying to search for the feeling of pride, we sort of lose the forest for the trees. I mean, pride is this whatever happens? Well, what does? Pride feel like to you let's. Think, I don't know. I don't know if I've ever really felt proud. I've admitted to being proud as like an intellectual pursuit. Like, am I proud of the work
that I just did? Yes. You know, am I proud that that thing got made? Yes. But like the feeling of pride? I'm not sure. And I think it's, it's since you have Alexithymia, which it's been a year since our last podcast. So I guess is, is the inability to to to recognize sensations within your own body, including things like feeling, but also things like having to be and stuff. But anyway, I'm not the one who has it. Would you say that's a reasonably correct? It's amazing.
Just want to make sure. I think I was imagine like a person who's colorblind trying to explain what color is to them. There's never going to be a satisfying answer to a person who can't see color because they don't know if it's correct. So even if a person who is colorblind did come up with a like an understanding of color that was reasonably correct, they would still not feel that it was correct. They wouldn't apprehend that it
was correct. Like finally I see they would just go maybe, maybe that's close, you know, who knows? So I think you as a person who is, has a hard time just recognizing sensations within your body, particularly emotional sensations like the feeling of happiness or pride or
whatever. There's, I think it, it, it's just, it's sort of like a double punch because one, you don't know in the 1st place because whatever, you know, for whatever reason, and two, you might not recognize it when you see it. And I think pride is the thing that happens when you stop
thinking about all that. You know, like, I think when you stop, not you, but when one stops, it just sort of exists in the moment of like, like I feel the most pride when, at the end of the day, when we're hanging out and I did good work that day and I'm financially stable and I'm, I don't have anything to actively worry about. And I just sit there and I have like, I feel proud that I, I feel good in that moment or whatever. Yeah, I don't know.
But it's I don't know, I'm rambling at this point, but. No, it's good. I like that. But yeah, so anyways, I don't know what, but I also feel like as a person with alexithymia, I make sure you don't miss the forest for the trees, you know? Naming it is not nearly as important as experiencing. I mean, and also, I wouldn't say experiencing pride is important. Like these words are just like grunts that we've made-up to describe the feelings inside of
our ape bodies. Like who's to say pride even exists, you know? But anyways, I'm getting a little, I'm getting a little college student who likes the smell of his own farts about this. But I'm sorry and I'm fucking just to bring it back to you. I'm proud as fuck to you. Thanks. And I hope you, at least intellectually, feel proud of
yourself. I just, I don't know, I really just, I really want them to succeed and I don't know, I, I was going to say something and then I forgot and then I just remembered it again. But it was like the like the Playboy shit has been so wild because the Playboy is like, it is a very, very different thing that I like, I miss writing. Like I, I really forgot that I'm like a pretty excellent writer, which I like. I'm allowed to say that because it is true. I am a great writer.
And so like being able to sort of like delve into that and then be able to like talk about shit that like I can't on like TikTok or like whatever. Like that's been really nice because it's like, I have this like safe space to do it. But it also happens that I've been absolutely privileged to like the platform on which it is.
It's like, oh, I have a column in Playboy magazine where I get to talk about shit that is really important to me in a way that like, I want to and like how I communicate. Like that is really fucking cool. Like, that's neat. I'm really happy about that. Maybe that's pride. Maybe that's what pride is like. I'm really proud of it, I think. But I just wanted to succeed. So please go read it if you would like to.
Thank you. Also, I'm mentally curious to see how you, this isn't meant to be like a call out or I'm just a call out or anything. I'm just curious how you respond. By every measure that we're aware of, all of those things are massively successful. Yeah, I know that my articles have done pretty well. Like I've been specifically told, like the podcast is doing really well. Been told specifically because I like, because that's the thing, that's what I like.
I like metrics because where it's like, OK, if I know that like people listen to this all the way through, that means that they liked it or like, you know, OK, I got a million hits, that means that a million people, you know, or like 750,000 people. And then they sent it to a few fronts, like, you know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. Because I'm like, OK, that was good. That's a measurable metric. But just like. I don't know. No, it's. It's very logical. It is.
I'm honestly, I'm spinning in my head a bit because I feel like now that it's been a year since we've done this, I was just like, did I just come off as just like, oh, I, I feel like I just came off as like, I have all the answers, you know, yadda, yadda. Like, oh young lady, just let me if only you saw the world through my eyes, you would and I
don't. I think you're I. Think you're a really good sounding board and if anybody thinks that you're mansplaining to me it's cool because you're my partner and like my best friend and I like talking and the whole vibe of this podcast is talking and sometimes you're just going to talk about the things that you think and that's OK. There was a fucking.
TikTok creator and she made a video I don't remember the main thing I just remember like the words on the screen were like the message of the video was she said. Is he really mansplaining or does he have ADHD and he's info dumping I. Saw that video and I thought of you obediently. Thanks because that. Scratch that. Made me feel so much fucking better, like just that stupid, because that's part of like my joy is, I mean, I do it all the time with people of any gender
and age too. I sometimes when I'm talking to like a 10 year old, I'm like 10 year old does not need to know how about the harmonic sequence or whatever, you know, when was the last time I talked to a 10 year old? I don't think I've talked to probably like Halloween. You said hi to that kid in the hallway. Today. Oh yeah, his finger up his nose. It was just like so might have been. 4 or 14 like I have no ability to hate children like I was just like he's small I can
usually tell. For me, there's like baby, like kid, yeah, you know, which is everything from like late toddler, yeah, to like, probably like 10 or 11. And there's like, teenager, yeah. Which and I teenager is. Like, yeah, I I up to 20 because then there's like that vague. Like college student, yeah, like, yeah, like I because then these. Toddlers. Children, college students, like, that's how I like, date children. Yeah. What's also weird is.
Being around so many college students because my dad was a professor, like college students are weird age because like 22 for some people, some people change very little in college, you know, like they go to college and they're there to party and do, I mean, I don't fucking know, but you know, they just don't change very much. And so like I've met people who are 22 who I'm like, Oh my God, you've already gone to college.
And then and which is does say anything about like quote, UN quote intelligence or knowledgeable just in in the way that they think about the world, you know, And then I've met like 22 year olds. So I'm like, oh try being 14I. Assume they're in college. Yeah, Jesus. Right, that was. Fucking rough. Wow, yeah, like. Nobody knew that I was. 14 they all assumed that I was just a college student and I was 14 years old. That's like it sounds like it's.
So fucking weird. That sounds like such a good like. Oh my gosh. Think of an actress like Lindsay Lohan movie or something. Yeah. You know, from like a night. Yeah, it was. Except like. Not fun, mostly just sexual harassment. Which class were? You taking? I was taking a bunch of different classes. I took stagement makeup and acting and directing, and I took like a couple of English classes and I took a poetry class and bales. We will take you OUT in a
minute. We have to finish making the podcast also. That is the voice that I used to speak to my talk most of the time, just so you know. Just so you know, I have a. Whole dog talking voice that's secret that I just put on my podcast. But yeah, you know. Oh yeah. That went to a dark place. Very quickly, I apologize. I went to a lot of places and I. Appreciate you being comfortable going to dark places when we arrived there with your tracking back. Oh yeah.
Mansplaining. And Oh yeah, I do any gender. Oh yeah. Is I just. I really like reveling in things that I know. And if people and I, my favorite type of people are the people who like reveling in things that they know. So then they talk about them and then I learn the thing and then I know those things. And we just like, celebrate how cool it is to know stuff and think about stuff and make stuff like that's my favorite type of human or my favorite state of
human, I suppose. Because we're changing. We're ever changing. But I I also know that that. That being a six foot two sis head white dude like that can very easily come off as me being, well, let me tell you about Shaka Dubba or whatever. So I feel like there's like. There's like the, the condescension factor because I feel like a really easy way for me to suss out if somebody is being like condescending and mansplainy versus like ADHD enthusiastic info dumping is that enthusiasm?
Is that because like there's a lot of times where like, I will run into somebody whose special interest is Shakespeare, or I will run into somebody whose special interest is like costuming, where it's like, I already know a lot of stuff, but most of the time I will somebody at the door. Oh yeah, that's good. Yeah, I got it. Is it crazy dog time? Is it crazy dog time? Oh, it's crazy dog time. OK, but not by the not by the laptop. Oh. Come on. Come on.
Come on, come on. He's crazy Dog time. Oh my gosh. He's crazy dog time. Oh my gosh, what we're here now could be crazy dog. Time. What's up? Quiz dog quiz dog quiz dog Beautiful beautiful. Beautiful cheapest buddy. Come on, Buddy did. You hear your head? Oh, OK. OK, OK. Hey bud. SH SH my sweet dog. Oh my sweet darling love. Oh sweet love of my life. Yeah, good job, feels. Good job. Thanks.
Oh, good job. Bailey settling down, what is what we what you were saying good job about just then, right? That was pretty good. Hi, everybody. Maybe there was an interstitial there. Maybe there was just we just cut out a whole bunch of stuff because there was knock a Thor and Bailey freaked out and you know, maybe we left it in. I don't know, Maybe you just heard me. Use my Bailey voice. Who knows? I like when you use the Bailey voice. It's really kind and nice.
Oh, that's that's what my heart. Sounds like whenever I look at her, yeah, she's delightful. Best dog in. The whole. Oh, something I do to phone right back in her, something I do to try to make it seem like I'm not sending that like arrogance is preface. Like start off by saying I know what I'm a lot of what I'm about to say is stuff you probably already know.
I'm just going to say it just so like, for context, you know, of what I'm saying, usually one that lets people finish my thought because they're not interrupting to say I know, you know, which is nice because when somebody interrupts me, there's like, a huge chance that I have no fucking idea, you know? So I get, I'm really terrified of being interrupted in public because there's a good chance I'm going to figure out what I
was talking about. And then I'm going to have to just stare at the server like, what are we doing here? What's happening? Oh, but also I think makes them feel less like I'm explaining this to them under the assumption that they don't know. Like, yeah, like that kind of thing. Well, I also feel like. There's a difference between like, I'm working at a place and I need to know for my own edification that I showed you how to like, use the coffee maker.
Yeah, and. Like. You know, you're at home hanging out with your friends and that, you know what I mean? Like, there's like contact, like there's contextualness to it as well. Like a contextualization because like, yeah, a lot of that conversation, condensation, Conden. No, wait, conversation. No condescension. Condescension. Yes. Those are really similar. Yeah, I've never noticed that. Before, yeah, it's now fucking all the. Time the condescension. Often comes from, like, that.
Well, of course you don't know because you're a woman and you're just delayed. Yeah, but it's like, if somebody is like really hyped up about Shakespeare and they're explaining the plot of Titus Andronis to me, you're Titus Andronicus to me because like, they're like, oh, my God. And there's, I'm like, I want to give that person that moment. Like, I want like, I'm not going to be like, how dare you? I have two master's degrees in Shakespeare.
I know. Like, I'm like, no, I want to know how you explain the plot of Titus Andronicus to somebody when you're really excited. Like, what are you getting out of it? Like, what have you learned? Like what, what are the highlights of what's important
to you? And so I don't know if I have more patience for it than other people just because I think that a lot of times I, I can just, I can tell, like I can really tell when it's like somebody who's being genuine and someone who is like assuming that I don't know things. And like for me, there's like, there's like a feeling, there's like a very specific, like, I can recognize this feeling.
Well, I think a lot of people. Particularly men, but a lot of people, if you once you notice, it's really hard to stop noticing. So I apologize in advance if this changes anybody's worldview, but I also don't give myself too much credit. A lot of times when people like in particularly, well, white men are talking about a thing, they're actually talking about themselves and how and they're talking. They're talking about how much
they know about the thing. They're not talking about, you know, how interesting all this stuff is. They're saying, look how much I know about this thing. It's a huge green flag for me when somebody's talking about something and they are just clearly like just shit over fuck for the thing. They're like, I don't like this isn't about me or how much I know or I was just like, how
cool is this thing? Like that's my favorite because a lot of I don't know, I I I spent a lot of time trying not to do that because I I see a lot and I don't, I'm not talking about like people that are that are immediately in my life. I mean, just in general. Yeah, I did that. The other day, and I keep thinking about it because I feel really bad about it, really. And it was such like a dumb thing. But so Lisa, who we met, there's
this part, it doesn't matter. But her name was the devil, OK? Her name was Sue. We'll call her Susie. You've already said the name I was. Wishing you you. Could edit it, that's great. But. No, so they're OK. So there's this purse on it. And she was at Eric's, like, place of business. And she was like talking to me. And she's talking to me about this, like, show that she's like putting on and her like, husband is like directing it and like, you know, they're just like theater people.
So we were having this little conversation, but specifically the play was Steve Martin's The Underpants. And not a lot of people know this, but Steve Martin, like the Steve Martin has written a lot of really good plays. And yeah, he's, and they're really good. Like they're fantastic. And so I, we, I did a bunch of them when I was actually when I was 14 in college. That was one of the shows that I worked on. But so she's like, oh, you probably haven't heard of it.
It's called the underpants. I was like, Oh my God, Steve Martin, whatever. And then I immediately launched into the story about how when I was in college, we did the Zigzag woman, which is another play by Steve Martin. And I was like really excited because I there was like, you know, those like magician like zigzag boxes where you push the thing and the lady looks like she's like gotten into the side is you have to have one of those because the entire play is about
a woman in one of those. And so we're like, where do we get one? And so I looked it up. I got. I found the patent and I reverse engineered the plans from the. Patent built a zigzag. Box and it was like this triumph for me like as like a young theater person 14 years old but. In hell yeah, but. In my mind, she was like Steve Martin, the underpants. Not a lot of people have heard about this.
And my brain went, oh, not only have I heard about this, but like I have this like really important special to me core memory. So I'm going to share it with you. But then I like played it back and like, and you know, sorry. So I like told a story and she's like, but anyway, so the play is it like this theater? And I was like, oh, fuck, Like fuck. Because I didn't, I didn't mean for it to be like, now I'm going to talk about me. But like, that was like, how I,
you know what I mean? And what I should have said is like, tell me about your show. Like, where's it at? Like what, what's the set like? Like, where'd you find? Like I should have just asked any question at all. But instead I was like, here's a fun anecdote about me. And I felt like I felt like shit about it for three days. Well, first of all, I was. There and it was fine. And you were. I know what you mean. But anyway, I know I remember what you're talking about.
If you want I I I, I also don't mean to imply that like when we do that, it's it's like malicious and sell or selfish. Sometimes it is, but it's like a social cues thing. But. Exactly. I think. I think it's just. One of the risks of being a person who tends towards anecdotal communication, yeah, which I think we certainly both do, but I think a lot of nerve divergent people do.
Yeah. You know which, you know, dear listener, if you've never heard the term anecdotal communication, it's if somebody brings up a story about how when they went scuba diving, you immediately think to tell a story about when you went scuba diving to like connect with them about like, hey, look, we've both gone scuba diving. That's called anecdotal communication. But I think it can often come off as like, oh, we're changing the subject to me, but not but I don't.
So I just don't want to paint that as being like a malicious or selfish thing to do. I think a lot of times it is selfish and just people want to jerk themselves off. But I think for people like us and a lot of other anecdotal communicators, that's just how we relate to people. And sometimes it just doesn't go well, or at least how we how we'd like. Yeah. I don't think people assume malice from it. I don't think like she went home.
And was like what an asshole. But like I have thought about it for three days non-stop. Like, oh. Boy, I blew it. I. Blew it. I don't know her super well. But she's really cool. I bet she was very cool. And I was just like, I was just trying. To be like, I'm excited that you also know about Steve Martin plays because nobody knows Steve Martin plays, right? That was it. That was all I was trying to do. You know I'm well, I think you will also.
I think you did communicate that you know, like, and she also knows about you and stuff and she's really cool and like. What? Sorry, I just had a completely. I just realized we can't do this song because I don't have a ukulele here. We have a. Banjo and a guitar, yeah. And I. Just built a loot. Yeah. Which is fun story, did you say? That yet? Yeah, I can say what I'm working. On I just can't say what it's for.
Oh, that's fair. Oh also, everybody, this is we're late in the podcast here, but at Eric's place of business. What's that? We'll find out next time. I just want to start a whole thing. A few more minutes left. But yeah, we have a banjo and a guitar. Do do it up, you know, I don't know. I got so I was. Like Oh no, now I don't know how to end. I'm sorry. I do feel it. Well, well, also Bailey's been eating for the last like 10 minutes. Well, hey, everybody.
Thanks so much for listening to this episode. It's been a year, so if you're listening to this, thank also thank. You to the 600,000 of you who listened to our podcast while we weren't making a podcast because I don't I logged back in to my little podcasty analytics. You know, they're like, oh, here's what the pocket and I was surprised. I was shocked I was moved. I was touched. So you know, thanks for that
team. Thanks for I want to know like what episode of people just like listening to on repeat because I. I I got to, I'm sorry bubs, I just never originally had to correct. It wasn't 600,000 people, it was we have 600,000 plays, probably about 100 of which thousand of which came from the last year. So 100,000 listens in the last year. That's also listens, not people. So it might just be one. Really enthusiastic person with five phones, Yeah.
Or, you know, people who listen. To episodes more than once that's right. I just didn't want people to think like wow they're so they have 600,000 people listening. I also don't know what's good cuz. Like if 1000 people watch a TikTok video, I get mad. I'm like God damn it nobody but it's like 1000 people listen to the podcast. I'm like, that's like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cry. That was just. No, it's OK. I didn't. That was gonna hurt my brain. No, it's great.
I have a. Announcement, but I have to find the actual. Thing also special extra double thank you to our patrons this time because if you're as of this like listening if you're a patron of ours, that means you've been a patron throughout this whole year. We weren't doing stuff and that's really cool and it's saved our asses a couple times. So thank you very much. I appreciate it. I think it's on my. Instagram, sorry, and now a soliloquy. But tomorrow? And tomorrow and tomorrow. OK. OK.
OK. OK. OK. OK. OK. Hey, Infinite Quest listeners, what are you doing October 4th through the 6th? That's like in a couple of weeks in Denver, Co. I'm going to be a keynote speaker at Women Lead Live. This is my first keynote. I'm very nervous about it. I'm sure it's going to be great. I'm going to be talking about neurodivergence in the workplace. And if you would like to get tickets, I have a discount code. So you go to go.theshecenter.org. Sorry, is it? She SHE. Yeah. So it's.
Go.theshecenter.org/katio and you can get 10% off your tickets with code Katiosaurus and it would be rad if you go because then they will cover the cost of my hotel room. So at least 10 of you need to buy tickets please. Help me out. Help me out. You don't have to do anything with them. You don't. Even have to go you. Just just just buy a ticket. I was going to say we'll, we'll send you. Money to buy the ticket, but I think that's fraud. Yeah. I think that's. I think that's.
Active fraud. Fraud. Also, let's go. Let's do fraud, Katie. Let's fucking do it. Who's? Up for my jury. Listening to this. As evidence, check fraud. OK, but no a couple of other things. I am for real actually and for truly. Remember when I said in January I thought I was going to start a newsletter? That wasn't true, but I'm currently working on actually
starting a newsletter. The newsletter is going to be your best place to stay up to date with everything that I'm doing and with the book and all of that. It will be the first place that we drop the presale link. So if you want to go join, go to katiosaurus.com. And I think it's slash newsletter, but it's just like right there. I don't figure it out yourself. You got this. I thought you'd been doing the. Newsletter for No, I haven't. I've been.
Saying that I'm going to every month for the past nine months. Really. I thought their. Newsletters had been like going out. No, there's been. 0 Newslettering Excuse me, that's never been. It's OK, I have. Failed monumentally, but yeah, so I finally asked for help and now I'm getting help. And so there will be a newsletter happening and other stuff that's happening. I'm trying to think of like what's important enough to talk about. Listen to Sorry I Missed This on
understood.org. Also next week on this podcast, Infinite Quest, we're going to have a bonus episode, which is the first episode of Sorry I Missed This. So if you want to get a little like teaser trailer, they've given me permission to like double post the episode and the book is coming out at some point and that's all I can think of
right now. Also, if you want to show me some love and some of the stuff I've been doing, if you go to YouTube and you know, do you know Stephen Glickman, you know the name? He's like, yeah, he played a character on Big Time Rush, Gustavo, but he's in a band now, a very successful band. He's he's started a whole new career. And anyways, Mike Corey and I made props for one of his more recent music videos.
So if you go to YouTube and search Paralyzed by Steven Glickman and watch that music video, there's like a demonic guitar in it during a couple slots during the solo and whatnot. And Mike and I made that. I'm quite proud of it. I think it turned out really well. So anyways, if you want to search up Steven Glickman on YouTube and comment on that and be like, yo Hoge, he goons the shit.
Oh so good that's how I read all YouTube comments That's that's the voice so loud I I I think I got nervous and so it all went to my mouth that's OK hey could have been nevermind anyways, I'm just while we're doing plugs. I don't think it's quite that was good. It's. Really, really cool. And if they were like, well, we hired that. Random guy to do props and like a bunch of people watch the YouTube.
What if you have if you? Have important film industry connections in Los Angeles and you need a a props maker, Eric Good. Yeah, instruments too, people. Have been asking me to do instruments so you've got a lot of custom. Instrument instrument work since moving to LA, which is very fucking cool. I Yeah, right, three months I've already made. Two instruments for for production. It's pretty rad, pretty cool. OK, so yeah, go to, I don't
know. We'll at some point we're gonna like fix the socials and everything. But listen, we, we both know, dear listener, that it's just gonna be a kind of process. We barely got this recorded. We're gonna prioritize. Well, I don't want to say this, but I think based on the conversations my love that we've had, we're going to prioritize like just making content just like getting episodes yeah you know cuz fight cup one also it's like the most fun part of this whole fucking thing for us
right. Well, I don't want to speak for you. These gets like vibes gets a. Vibe right and it's like. Whatever we want it to be. So we're going to focus on content, but in terms of like getting the socials all coordinated and and new like that's come. But we're going to anyways. I'm going to stop talking now. No, no, no. You got it. Yeah. So go check out the stuff that we're doing. I'm going to post to my like appearances, schedule and stuff.
If you're going to be at Big Bad Con or Dom Con in New Orleans or are if you're doing D3 at sea, I'm going to be doing so much stuff in the next couple of months. So just, yeah, just know that I love you. Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be at Bay. Area Maker Faire too by the way. Just going to ask you about that, I forgot. Yeah, cool, cool. Anyway, dear listener, thanks so much for coming back, rejoining us. Season 3 question mark we've this. I think this is Season 4 season.
You know what? Season 9. Baby season 9 of. Ethnic quests. I think we should just. Do it. I think Season 9, I think that. 'D be really funny and then that way no one will ever, they'll be like what happened to the lost season, the lost. And then we can just. Like we can do like prequels, see, And now we're committing. To like fours last seasons. I've lost seasons. Maybe we should call the season like 7. So we're only on the hook for three.
Oh yeah, I don't. Know anyway, Dear listener, Season 7. Episode 1 seven O 1 back to remember, to be kind to. Yourself, remember to be kind to others. Remember to eat a snack, drink some water and take your meds. I did that out of order cuz I'm out of practice, but remember that we love you and it's great to be back. Everybody see you next week. Bye everybody, Bye. Bye, bye, goodbye, bye.