Hey everybody, it's me. Katie azureus and welcome back to infinite Quest. We are so excited about this week's episode. Like the thing that they don't tell you what, having a podcast is that sometimes you get to just casually, send an email to one of your personal Heroes and icons and they will email you back and say yes I would love to be on your podcast and that is precisely what happened this
week. We have not Neary activist actor, best-selling author, tedtalk, give her all around incredible, human being Jeffrey, Marsh with us this week and I am freaking out. However before we get to their interview, I just a couple of really quick announcements we are just 10 patrons away from hitting our five-month goal of 100 patrons. If you're interested in supporting us and becoming part of the infinite Quest family, you can do that by visiting patreon.com slash infinite quest
for more information. I'm Way too excited about Jeffrey. Marsh to do any more announcements. So here we go. Let's start the show transition. Hi everybody. Welcome to infinite Quest this week on the show. We have the incomparable. Jeffrey Marsh. I'm freaking out. If you don't know who they are clearly, you never were on Vine, uh, back in the day, back in the day. But Jeffrey, thank you so much for being here. Do you want to just like,
introduce yourself? Give yourself the give a little bit of background about yourself and then we can start the show. Show. Well I mean you covered the important party which was I was famous on Vine I don't know.
I mean I think I was the most prominent, I might have been the only out non-binary person On fight to begin with anyway and about eventually led to writing a book, being the first non-binary person to talk about it on national television and My well, I hope we'll have a chance to talk about what's next for you Jeffrey because there's exciting things about. Okay. Oh, man, now, I want to ask the question immediately say that will save it till the end be like, it'll be a cliffhanger. Okay.
Well, okay. So, actually you just sort of taught touch on my very first question that I wanted to ask, which was you very much one of the the first non-binary people to be sort of like social media. Tia Inge. And so, my first question is to part, which is how, you know, it's going to be a straightforward interview is one what was it like when vine got Santos? Like what was that like for you? Like what was that experience?
Like like just like, you know, well I dares we we can't talk about it without talking about hate. Yeah. Yeah. And how back of then back of that and then my day whenever that was 2012, right? It was basically the wild west. I mean, now being famous on Tic-Tac and being famous on Instagram. Most well, Twitter to why not throw it all in there. There are algorithms that weed out some of the most hateful stuff. Yeah, but I wasn't true on buying and I remember a
specific. Can I tell you a short story? Please tell this is an ADHD podcast. That's all we do. Is we just go off on circuit and and so you're fine. Um, so I did a vine For the Fourth of July, where I was the Statue of Liberty and I was dancing on my New York City Rooftop and it was amazing and went viral. Why I got this series of comments on Vine the comments. This is true on Tick-Tock by the way as well. The comments are limited to a certain number of characters. Mmm.
Kind of like a tweeted. Yeah and I on Vienna I got a series. So this person in short bursts told me. Gosh, how they were going to find me, what kind of gun they were going to use to kill me where the bullet would enter my body and all the sort of stuff that was really obsessive story. They had crafted, oh my God and
decided to share. And I remember that being a choice point where I could either I could continue knowing that that was going to be part of the picture and was that important to me or I could stop making content and I chose to keep going. Well, I'm certainly glad you did. Thank you, you know, eventually the algorithms will get better and the, you know, the apps would get better at weeding out the hate.
But still there's hay and still it's worth it because of the people I get to meet and talk to ya. Are you going to put that in my pocket for a sad day? Actually, I wanted the one of my first questions that I wanted to ask you was or it's not really a question. It's just a commendation is that I've been watching your tick-tocks lately and you've been getting some really shitty comments on on Tick Tock to wait.
But like but honestly though honestly sure the grace and compassion and kindness by which you like just shut down the trolls like I was like I want to be like this person when I grow. I how did you learn how to do that? It will. I went to live in a Buddhist Monastery. That's the short version. Longer version is when dealing with comments like that I'm not responding to the comment. I'm having a different conversation. Altogether about what hate is,
where it is, how it works. So I'm talking to my people. Yeah, my community, my family online about this hate comment, and usually, with that feature, which I think is actually a lovely feature on Tick Tock where you can directly respond to a comment that future. Is usually used to, you know, get sassy with the person who commented and I don't know, choose to have a different. Have a different approach and I get ya, obviously people are responding to it.
So it's just like wonderful. I just wanted to say that because I like, I like, I don't know, like it's where you can. I have my favorites to make those videos. Yeah, I mean I really like the comment replies. Oh, you know but it's weird because like the same thing has happened to me were like, somebody comes in and they say
something so hurtful. Like I wonder if like you know because I know that your Buddhist and so like you have this like beautiful background of like I don't know, being a good person but like do you ever have that moment of just like all this butter fucker and then do you have to like pre through that or like at this point have you like become like just you can just give that love freely without having that moment
first? Well, give love freely, notice who I'm giving love to the people who are watching that video. Yeah, a lot of people hold up, you know, you have to love your haters. I don't know. That's a Christian idea or something. I'm not sure where it came from and it's not. I don't necessarily shoot for that. I don't want to become best friends with somebody who thinks I should be dead grabs. Yeah, the baby died. And that's not what you're
saying, obviously. You know, people can hold that as an ideal and I just think it's important to have a different conversation altogether. Yeah, that's really the secret to me. So I just hugged every March. I like you so much. I just all my friends are lame because I just don't want so excited. They did, but I tell you somebody somebody before you on somebody, because you made me think of it, be on Twitter called me out. And said, My Vibe is Bob, Ross is painting mr.
Rogers That's all I want to be. I was like, wow, you read me? You led me. That's that's like, does that make you feel special? Like does that does that having people compare you? Because that happens to me and I never know what to do with it. Cause I'm like the least wholesome person in the world because like honestly how do you respond when people are like you are like the epitome of a that is some side. Like I'm wholesome but I also feel like a lot of it is like eye.
I've really been working on it because when I first started to talk I was very Sarcastic, and I'll get like, really skinny and then and then that like and I then I learned from people like you and I realized that like there is such a better conversation to have in the community and so like that's something that I learned and like, took from you and like,
you know, another creators. And so like I feel really grateful, but I always get really nervous because you're like, you're like the mr. Rogers of ADHD and I'm like, yeah, I'm within Arm's Reach of like seven different sex toys like it's pi. By the way, people should Google it, mr. Rogers talked about being attracted to men as well as women so he mr.
Rogers goes deeper than we in interviews and public talked about it. This is so is breaking news for me. I'm gonna have to do some immediate Google. Yeah, I have to, I have to, I have to push back because you should take more credit than you're giving yourself. Well, he thinks you're welcome. Because it's not like her. I want to say this, you are content changes lives and saves lives. And it's not about being some sort of perfect ideal of like, acting like mr. Rogers or something?
You know what people are recognizing I think is that Mister Rogers was authentic and so are you? Oh my gosh. Well thank you. That's really nice of you. I don't even come here for the couple but you know what I mean? And that's different, that is different than you being mr. Rogers.
Yeah. You know, your I mean that's like people recognize and one that's actually that's a great segue to the next question that I was gonna ask you because I, so I've watched your Ted talk, I'm number of times.
Like, you Ted talk, I just want to let, you know, your Ted Talk has gotten me through some rough days, just so, you know, so it's nothing good in your Ted Talk. You tell you talked so eloquently and so wonderfully about this idea of like being too much and one of the idea one of the reasons why we wanted to have you on the podcast is because like the That you talked about becoming like the poster child for like the queer Community. Like we've accidentally become
the poster children for like the ADHD community. And it's a weird experience being like, a role model and and, and feeling like you're too much and all that stuff. And so, one of the things that I was wondering is, can you speak to just that experience like how did you come up with the idea of turning your too much into something? Amazing. It was a really long Wellston, I'm sorry. I get so excited and then I have to quantify it for like, 10 minutes ago.
I mean, it really has a lot to do with your work. We do the same thing, you and I because there's a certain way that you. So, first of all, there's power in the process of coming out, which is, which I put in quotes right now that not everybody does or has to, but, you know, coming out as having a diagnosis Coming out as being lgbtq coming out, as have it, you know, loving comic books.
I don't know what, right? So people need to come out various times and there's power and speaking your truth. That's always true. Yeah. But there's also power in showing other people. It's possible to enjoy this thing. They were talk to judge. And that to me is a real special sauce. And to me, I, you know, I realized that being openly beautifully wonderfully, happy and being queer was actually quite a bold statement.
Yeah, because number one, people don't see it a lot, but number two, lgbtq kids are taught to be sad and upset. Self judgey. Yeah, so okay. So then Those lengthy pauses that we have to edit out, well I think about thoughts, so I loved it. It's well, you you may edit out whatever you like, but we try to be like, really careful about it but like I was like trade of thought like I just like go off the rails because I get excited
about new ideas. So I was have to like pause gather, my thoughts that like come back and do it, but that's good. But it makes it good. I think it's I think it's at least relatable because a lot of times people will email us and be like you talk like Guy. Do you just like go off on a tangent? Then you somehow bring it back around and I'm like, yes, yes.
So in talking about, you know, kids being taught to be sad and, and sort of like, internalizing this idea that there's, there's something wrong with them, or their something broken, which has really become part of my messages, like, you are not
broken. One of the things that I'm really curious is that you talked a lot about the importance of being yourselves, you know, yourself like authentically and For yourself which you just may need to make a statue of you and just call it being yourself because that's like you are the epitome of that.
But one of the things that I find and and especially like in my audience is like a lot of are like ADHD neurodiverse audience are just starting to learn that they might have a neurodivergent see or there's just starting that process of getting diagnosed. Do you think that a person can be themselves before they All, but they know who they are. Oh gosh, you could be yourself any time of the day and you're up front about not knowing about to me is the same as being
yourself. So and mostly if you're upfront about playing around exploring being open to whatever you find, I mean that's the essence of being yourself to me. Do you think that develops like as as you gain that confidence? Like you take that step forward into saying, you know, I'm there. Ptq or I like comic books or whatever. And that like, step for. Do you think that like it just builds the confidence grows as you as you sort of come into that identity?
Yes. And if I could use the phrase from improv class. Yes. And you need to come at it from two different directions. So yes, we're changing the world but we're also changing ourselves. So you're going to come out in the way we've been talking about in some way and someone's going to have a negative reaction. So if you're going to do that you're going to have to lay the groundwork of liking yourself so much that other people's reactions don't matter. Easy to say not so easy to do. Yeah.
Well, do you think that people are like, you know, people in general all of them? Do you think that there is a fear of sort of really examining yourself and getting to know yourself because of that perceived rejection. What do you think? I don't know that was an area question. Don't blame me. You're passing the buck. I like it. Eric gave me this. List of questions and I was like okay I'll ask of but I don't know what the answers gonna be.
I you know, it's so well. Here's what you make me think of. So the on Tick-Tock of are these communities that develop around say ADHD or Autism, or being non-binary and more than Vibe much much more than by more than Instagram, more than any other platform onto. Tick-Tock these different communities are seeing supporting loving listening to holding up stitching. If people know the lingo, the other communities. And I've never felt so beautifully embraced for who I
am and you can be all have. We all the thing? We all have in common is we were told that we're broken. Like you said, yeah. Look what has that it has that approach. Has that changed the way that you approach making your content like having a more accessible Community? I think so. Well, I mean, yeah. Naturally the, the form, the
function follows the form. Yeah. Yeah. The themes are the same that I was doing years ago on vine when I was saying, there's nothing wrong with you but the way that you can interact is really something exciting. I think Tick-Tock really it feels like a family. To me, really got some things right? Yeah, I mean, that, that is definitely been our experience is like, just building like an ADHD neurodiverse Community, like that was not what I expected when I started shitposting about boxes.
But like, here we are, you know, a year later and I'm talking with you so we I don't know something cool. Yeah. Hey everybody. You did it. Congratulations. You made it to the middle of the episode time for a water break. You all probably know the deal by now, but we wanted to let you know that this week's episode is brought to you in part by Our Kind sponsors at Z, lool, that Ze, L o0, elle.com. And if you use code, kto that C8 EIEIO, you'll get 10% off your
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Okay, back to the episode transition. so one of the things that we really like to do on on infinite Quest is like we like to use our platform for good and one of the things that you do is you work really closely with glsen and so we were wondering if you would just kind of talk about glisten and let people know like what it is and like why it's cool and and all of that good stuff course, glsen is an organization that helps lgbtq youth to be safe in Schools 2021, who knew we are still in a
place where lots of the parts of the country. It's not safe to come out. It's not safe to be yourself. Nope. And so glisten specifically works with them and actually 11 beautiful thing that goes and does is produces. They do an annual survey. So it's really hard to help a problem to move. A problem. Problem is even a problematic were It's really hard to change a situation. Yeah. Without knowing the details of it. So they go to the kids, they go
to the teachers. They go to the schools and ask questions and find out how many are doing this and how many are doing that so that they can be really effective. And their school survey is something I still use in my work for subjects to talk about things that people who might follow me need. That's what how You wind up finding out about them and working with them, they slid into my Dean's. How else do you think that? Ain't that just the way, the story of my life.
Now it's just like, it's like, oh yeah, this is just message me like Coca-Cola. It's fine. That's, that's a really valid authentic way of getting involved with something like that. Exactly, exactly. Okay, so this is the, this is the part where we're like, I'm going to unabashedly. Just ask you for that. Good. Good Jeffrey Marsh. Is for our listeners, okay? So how about I just like you so much. The answer is, there's nothing wrong with you, there's nothing
wrong with you, right? You are not broken and there's nothing wrong with you. I'm the one of the one of the big things is, is that a lot of our listeners, a lot of our fans are like, in this really unique place in their lives, where they are, younger than we are by some degree, but they are just sort of starting out their journey of, you know, self-discovery and
diagnosis. I talked about but a lot of them want to get involved in activism and a lot of them want to get involved in speaking up for the community and and engaging with the community. What advice do you have to give to those people? That's an easy one. These hard-hitting, journalist question. I've got a very Jeffrey answer. Am I very Jeffrey? Answer is you got to do the self-compassion? It's of kindness. So yes, we want you.
You're a valid part of movement and I actually am very unlike you and very weird. I hope you don't mind me calling me weird, you know what it says for real? Take it as a compliment. I'm very weird in that I never really even think about how old a person is when I'm interacting with them and I Tincture and six-year-olds perspective. Really to me is as valuable as a ninety six year olds or a 46
year olds, right? And so, if you're a young person, you're absolutely welcome in the movement and your ideas are welcome. And it's the same advice for someone who's 50. You have to be able to fill up your own tank. If you're going to go up against the forces of hate, just just how it has to be or else you'll burn out. And you'll not only, will you not be an effective activists in quotes. You'll actually just get bitter and and I don't know what slink
away from activism. So I mean, that's a wonderful answer. So then part two is, how do I do that? How do I fill my tank? How do I start that process? Do you have any advice for anybody who's going? Well? Well, that sounds hard. Yeah, an easy one is to create a space with yourself where you can say anything. So in how to be You, there's an exercise.
So it's the book. I read is partly a workbook because I want people to have their own experience, and I want people to feel like we wrote the book together. So there are sections that the reader rights as well. And so we end up with a with an art project together and there's one exercise in there where you write a dialogue with your hero and you take on both parts. So you really want, practice being a mentor to yourself if that makes sense. I absolutely does. It's wonderful.
I'm outside needing. Oh, go ahead. Well, you know you go, you know, you're the guest you time. I was just gonna add, don't forget where you're going. I was going to add, you know, you not that it's bad to need a mentor. You're going to be both sides of the conversation. We need a mentor. Sometimes you can embody being a mentor. Sometimes and that's called human. Yeah, life that yes. You remember what you were gonna say I do and I'm really proud of myself.
Um so you've you just said it up but you wrote a book how to be you and it it did. Okay for itself from what I understand well but so honestly what I wanted to know is what was it like writing a book that Broke genres. Like, what was, what was that process?
Like, coming up for the idea of this book and then like, well it's kind of a self-help book but it's also work, but it's also kind of a biography like what was it like realizing that you were really and truly, like, writing a book that was just going to like, sort of break the convention of how we understand how books are supposed to work. You know, the answer to that because you broke the conventions every day. You don't. Ya, I don't know.
I don't feel like like this is a true story and no, no, I'm gonna happen. Cast breakthrough and Eric is in here. And so now he's gonna be mad that he missed the podcast breakthrough. But I think I'll let Eric be jobless, it's your happiness, listen to it in the editing room and be like, oh I missed it but I think like, I still want to know your answer because I'm fascinated about how you came up with the idea for the book.
But I think one of the things that I have started realizing, as I've kept making my content and advocating for this community and all of this stuff is that at some point, it just starts feeling. So Oh, that I don't think of it in terms of like, I'm doing anything.
That is a big deal, like I wake up in the morning and I pick a topic and I sit at my kitchen island, I clear off the dirty cups and I film a video and and then but you know, and I know you've talked about this as well as but then you get an email and you say, like your videos are changing my life. And you know, thank you so much and I go, I just talked about eighty HD at my kitchen table and so my guess I don't know.
I'm just Guess what your answer is is you have gotten so used to thinking outside of the box and thinking. So, creatively in your work, that that's how you came up with it. But now I just answered the question for you, which is not how this is supposed to work at all. That's not a podcast that's up. I guess it just Katie projecting and you happen to be correct.
So A Plus on that. Yes for me when you were speaking all I could think of was being non-binary and how bad that set me up to think outside the conventions and the rules and you know, color outside the lines to begin with.
So when I went in to penguin, when I met with penguin random house and told them, you know, I want to do this weird wacky idea, it just made sense to me and they could kind of flow on that because it Just was so clear to me that it had to be something really different to suit the message. That's really cool. I like I just yeah. Can I tell you another little story about weeks? Tell me all, tell me your entire life story. Please, I will sit there quietly and just ask the occasional
question. I'm here for, let's go. So it was, John ra bending and genre melding and and all that wonderful stuff. But it was also that I was the first out non-binary person to work with a big five publisher. So in the in the United States, Big Five is Simon & Schuster, penguin, Random House, Hatchet. You know, all the all the ones that are the biggest and I worked with penguin and they returned my manuscript, the editor returned my manuscript
with all the vases changed. He no one said they is not grammatically. Correct. And we had to have an email exchange is correct and that's what I use and etc. Etc. My tummy hurts for you in this moment. It was only pushing the boundaries of what a book could be. Yeah, product. I was pushing some boundaries inside the publisher about what an author could be. Really. I never had that like that, but you, you helped. See that? Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's, that's a great story.
Thank you for sharing that. I didn't feel so good at the time. Oh no, I can imagine like, oh my God. Jesus. Um, but okay, so then and if you do not want to answer this question, it is okay. We can edit this part out, but do you think being the first You know, like non-binary person and doing all this stuff and like, having like youth, the first, the first, the first, the first like you have so many firsts. You've got a little trophy case, full of first.
Do you ever feel like pressure like do you ever feel like you're like you have like this like responsibility to like this community in a way? That is like hard. Nah, I mean, you know what? That's the best answer that question. You know, I used to and I can certainly talk about that, but I had to make a decision at some point. Whether I wanted to quote, unquote, represent non-binary people.
Hmm. And I realized not to sound unkind, but I realized if someone is not with it enough to Is that not every non-binary person is the same. Yeah, and acts like me or looks like me or whatever if they're not with it enough to realize that that's actually not my problem. Yeah. And that realization helped me to just, you know, be myself which ironically makes me a better representation I guess. I didn't know that, I really needed to hear that today.
But apparently I did, because now I'm like a little emotional because of the work you do. Yeah. It's it's I don't know. You represent the community. Yeah, it's one. And one of the things is, like, I went back and I watched your Ted Talk this morning because I just was like, oh, I need to prepare for this interview and like one of the things that really hit me was like, the last time I watched it, I was not getting emails from people being
like you were saving my life. And now I am and I had that moment of like I normally I would watch something like that. I go oh, that's for a fancy famous person to deal. And then I was like no that's my experience now. And like I worry so much about representing the community and saying the right thing and whatever and I try really hard to be authentically myself but like sometimes I fail and sometimes I use the wrong word or the wrong terminology or
whatever. And so yeah, I just like I wanted to ask you because that was not for the podcast. I was just for Katie Katie. Sometimes you are also pushing the movement for Forward. So sometimes you're also coming up with the language. Yeah, that's the next. Have you ever had that experience of being like, oh well, I guess. Like, I'm gonna have to be the person who opens that door. Yeah. And there was something you made so clear.
When you were talking about being the first, the first, the first, the first, There are so many Heroes that walked the footsteps before me. So yeah, the first to be at a major publisher, but how many people had to publish books who were out and non-binary before? I could do that? Yeah, right. And it is all a Continuum. And I hope, you know, every darn non-binary person, listening, we'll just do, you know, break down the barriers that are left really quickly. That's lovely.
That's four that's a really nice answer. Thanks for that nice answer. Okay this is this is one where this is just for the this is just for the parents and and and
the the folks in the room. But so you are what I would, pretty much consider it expert on the experience of being non-binary and I know that you've talked about this before like a couple of different interviews but like what advice do you have to give to people who are just like oh that person is non-binary and I don't know how to do this.
Pronoun question. And then the thing in the ass for the what they need because I get asked that question all the time and I know what my Katie answer is but I'm interested to see what your answer is. Oh you gotta go first. What's mine is my kitty. Answer is very exciting. It's have you considered talking to them about it, which is my like, which is a quantifiably across the board.
The answer that I just have to give all the time for everything, like the Ask questions in the partner questions on the romance questions. They idiot. Like, I was like, well have you considered having a conversation with the person and then they go, oh no. I don't want to do that though and I can what? I don't know. What do I do? I don't know what to tell you. So I don't know if you guys, I just want to know if you had almost. No, it's exactly the same.
And there are two things in that. Number one, this the the respect involved in allowing someone to Speak for themselves. Yeah, that is so inherent. But the other thing is communication, makes our lives smoother easier. Yeah, there's so much drama that is cut out if you just speak plainly. Mmm. Now, it has to be a balance I suppose and I know you, you probably feel the same way in your work. I Jeffrey have chosen this life. A Fielding these questions all the time.
There are non-binary people who might be your coworker who are, I don't know what they are introverted or annoyed that day, where, you know, you might run into issues with the talk directly to them approach but I still think it's the best way to go absolutely because then you get the answer and you get the answer or at least you get a I'm not comfortable answering that and then you know that that is a boundary and you can you can go ask somebody, you can go as Jeffrey Workshop Tick-Tock
that's that's my ass. Makeup on Tumblr really want good, you can go like man I miss the Glory Days top. Like 2012 Tumblr has a nice. Pretty sweet. Does it pretty pretty sweet? Okay, Pausing. Sorry, Eric, I'm sorry. So at the very beginning of the interview apologize to Eric because I apologized constantly all the time for it's like, it's my fun. Cool thing that I do. First of all, Eric is waiting patiently. I am.
Second of all pausing is a human thing and I guess Eric will take it out if Eric wants to, I did not. It's true. What I know is going to happen is now that we're talking about it, their all To get left in. And then it's gonna look even sillier what I'm like, sorry for the trouble because they're just all gonna be a podcast. It's mine, that is exactly what happened, that's how my life works. But at the the focusing, we're getting back on track at the very beginning of the podcast.
We were talking about what's next. And so now we're at the part where I ask you, what's, what's next? What you got going on? Do you have anything that you want to tell us about any big news, any n equal 2 things, my audio book version of how to be. You is coming in April. It is my voice, okay? And you we talked about before we started recording but I'm sitting in a closet in my home because the best sound quality and this is the also, the closet ready.
Audiobook was recorded. That's one but I also have something top secret to tell you that I'm actually not supposed to tell you guys going anyway. Is this an infinite Quest exclusive or should we do? You can keep it in? Um okay okay okay I'm going to I'm in the process, it hasn't been sold but I'm in the process of pitching, a TV show in the tradition of the folks, we've mentioned already in this podcast. I just made a terrible noise. I'm so excited for you. So watch for that TV 10 months.
But yeah, that's fixated stick. Oh, my goodness. Could truly remarkable. Another fan of might be the first time. Is that right? I'm just thinking I'm just, I'm just, I'm literally having a profound moment about like, like the kids who will watch that show and why that's important. I got. Is that true? I'm right there. That's so special. That's yeah, that's incredible. Congratulations, that's fuck me. That's good. That's just, I'm just happy end of the podcast.
No, well, okay, so we, as we was the wrapping up your time. So we have like three kind of standard wrapping emotions that we asked number one, Do you know you like I've done podcast before like that? Yeah. Well then you might know be extra, special question. We have to ask at the end but before that just do you have anything that you want to say to our listeners? Any pieces of advice, little little chicken nuggets of wisdom, that you hope more people will hear.
There is nothing wrong with you. And the realization of that is not going to be perfect, you're going to build in fits and starts, you're going to glue things together. You're going to grab things from friends, but eventually you'll have a strong Foundation. You'll have a strong sense. A true experience that there is absolutely nothing wrong with you, when that happens, Email me because I love those stories and I want to hear about it when that happens, you have more
choices. So you should be doing your work to get to that stuff. Like it best you just wrote up a said water your show. Good job. They can be the olfactory put on your card again. That'll be great. I assume there's going to be hard to change my shoes. You kind of gotta toss the shoe. Apparently, did you apparently, mr. Rogers never actually toss the shoe.
This is like a whole thing of really like I do there's like I wrote a thing where it's like, there's like controversy about whether or not he did and then Tom Hanks dinner, I don't know. I forgot. It was fine. I have ADHD. Um, okay. So the most important puzzle, mr. Rogers bisexuality. Glad I'm got like what? I tell you I'm going to immediately after we stop this. That's number one when I'm about to do.
So the most important question that we asked confident Quest you're welcome, Eric if you could know every language in the world or play every musical instrument in the world which would you pick and why? I would play every musical instrument in the world, that is not the answer. I thought you were gonna give because That language to me is the universal language of love, giving a gift of art of a song.
You are so wonderful. Giving the gift of music, is evokes, feeling and connection, and sometimes, you need to be in a place without words. As the best answer we've ever had on this podcast, congratulations, you can put that first in your trophy case, two, if you want that's for you.
Okay, I'm so jealous. I'm super excited because I just know he's going to be in the little editing room just being like and it's going to be fun because he's gonna be like, well why didn't you ask the mist and I'ma be like, well because I forgot because I got excited. Because that's what I do. We were living in the moment. We were living in. The moment was having a pot. We're just Chillers have a conversation. It's fine. I don't know. I was inviting.
We're vibing. That's what the the youth say, on the tick tocks. They do, they do. I was trying to think of something clever, but that I was like now I can confirm can confirm them them gen. Z's, how's your middle part doing? By the way, if you have you done your gen Z middle part? No absolutely not because I refuse I'm like no I'm not be counting you can take my sidebar for my cold dead hands. Exactly. Yeah. All right well Jeffrey Marsh thank you so much for being here. It is.
Truly an honor to have spoken with you. Hahaha. You Eric for not being here? Go check out Jeffrey stuff will put all of their information in like the show notes and all that good stuff will link on the website but yeah from infinite Quest. Thank you for being truly. One of the most remarkable and excellent human beings walking the planet right now and I say that with absolutely like, just absolute authenticity. Thank you so much for existing in this world.
I mean, this in every way it was my pleasure. Thank you. The secret password is snicklefritz, however, this time, you must comment it in the chat of either my or Katie's twitch stream that's twitch.tv slash, hey, goood and twitch.tv slash kto Soros, but the 0 is a 0 because somebody is faster than her. Ha ha ha.