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Keep Going (And a QuestCraft Update)

Oct 28, 20211 hr 4 minSeason 2Ep. 19
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In this episode, Cate and Erik discuss the often impossible notion of "keeping going" and what that means to them as ADHDers, particularly in relation to their new and upcoming projects, and what life last year (and a year from now) looks like with the idea of "keeping going" at the forefront of their minds. Cate unpacks her fears and failings, Erik thinks farts are funny, and we meander through a meaningful, if not slightly tangent-filled conversation about the prospect of what InfiniteQuest could become.

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Hey everybody. It's me, Mickey Soros and it's me. Hey dude. Were you trying to remind me to start the podcast? I was going to I was also going to tell you to not eat the microphone, which is something that audio people say, sometimes when they say eat the mic. But I was literally putting it in my box but I wanted to see what it would feel like on my on my it does it does have that like it's imagine what it would feel like inside of my mouth. Okay, okay, make your jokes

Folks at home. Make your jokes. Are you see? No jokes. That could be made. Would you like to explain it to me? I don't I don't see any possible jokes before we get started. I just want to do a little housekeeping real quick. I'm keeping housekeeping transformation on the, The Quest Craft Server, which by the way, I believe in the last episode, we called it the Haven Craft Server dead immediately afterward Kant. Retconned it the Quest Craft Server.

Congratulations to those who got in those who applied, who did not get in is I think personal my friends, we just got way more, Felicia, Felicia a fucking creeper, is it was insane. We walked away from the, from a little Google spreadsheet and then we came back and we went, oh no. What did we do? Took, like two days to go through all of them of like non-stop work? Yeah. Oh yeah. Like literally we, I was really proud of you. You are true, like, literally ten hours.

Thanks, but first, I appreciate, just like screening and everything. Once I learned how to color code stuff, Unlike the Google Sheets thing, exact kind of fun, you know, because I do look stunning Excel like weirdly validating. Oh yeah, somewhere out there. And it's like, hi can show you the world. I just like these but move my microphone cable but I'm scared. It's going to make a noise. You're gonna be fine. It's gonna be great. You're going to do great. But so yeah, it was nothing

personal. We just couldn't let everybody like literally, I don't think there exists, a Minecraft server large enough or like that's could possibly host as many people as applied. So like there's literally just Way. And honestly, they were like a couple people who are like, you know, oh they should definitely join because they're like a micro streamer. But then a lot of it was honestly kind of random.

Like after like 20 we were like, well we can let on a, you know, a good another like 40 people, but all of your applications were just like so good. Good. It was literally just like that. Someone was like, okay I guess I'll let this person because they're like a builder and this person's a red Stoner. Okay. But like honestly at some point it was It was kind of just like a lottery. He liked. But anyway, so if you didn't get any, it is nothing personal.

You're wonderful, you're great, go start a server. Clearly there's a lot of demand I think actually are Divergent Minecraft servers. So if you want to start your own piggy bank, go to my Discord server. If you go to the fruit snack Nation Discord server, I think there are actually people who are doing exactly that. Oh sweet. There is a lengthy conversation in the Minecraft Channel earlier this morning about for folks who didn't have the opportunity. To play on quests craft.

They were talking about starting their own. So you might want to check over there because I think that is actually happening. Oh sweet. Well, that's what the community is. Just being a community and I love that just off, dude. I mean so we opened the The Quest Craft Server hasn't started yet. It looks like it's going to be

Saturday at noon. That looks very probable that that's going to be the official opening or like there's gonna be a bunch of crowds of like blocky Minecraft players, you know? And then I'm going to like do like a little speech and it's going to be chaos. Awesome. Like how good it is going to be slightly mitigated chaos, but that should be when it when it starts. But I mean just but the Discord to server is now open.

We invited the people were accepted into this Court's earlier yesterday and just if any of you are members of this that Discord and just you guys ex, holy shit, I like almost cried last night in voice chat, just thanking everybody because they were just having these like deep conversations about like their lives and their history with no Divergence and stuff. And then like mixed with just like fun, joking around About stuff and let you it's just gonna be really good.

I am never ever, not just floored by the wonderfulness of this community like it just blows my mind. So just if you'll just thank you. But anyways, so the discords always been one of my God. I was going somewhere with that. Just got server has been over day and so I am Quest. Starts noon. Everybody's great. Oh, no, I think that's it, cool. But the, the sun around, which we will be revolving in the

Amber ring too. Today the last couple weeks have been a lot for Katie and me a lot and a lot of the stuff that we've been planning and like making lists about in Google spreadsheets about and doing research about now, it's like happening, it's like actually happening weirdly scary. It is terrifying. I'm scared all the time. I'm absolutely terrified all the time but we're now we're now hitting that point that I think a lot of ADHD Folks are very familiar with where now it's like oh, okay.

Now is when the like the work starts, the long haul work. I said, I think on my stream this morning on my twitching this morning, I was talking about how we're going to do Quest crab Seasons. We're going to season one and then a year later season 2 and you won't let your best season 3. And so I was like saying and as I was saying the sentence of like that I was like so yeah, this is what I'm going to be doing for the next couple.

All years in my whole brain was like yeah, whoa and I'm still like that was the plan. I'm so fucking stoked in grateful to be able to like to be in a position where I get to like play Minecraft as part of my job. What like I'm so lucky for that to be the case but the the time of it hit me all at once, like holy shit years and so I'm freaking out but also excited and all the stuff It's a very

familiar sensation. I think with ADHD folks who me I don't say overcome it because I don't feel like what we're committed. This was all very intentional. Yeah but I think this is the first time where I'm having that feeling but it's not over-committing like my brain is looking for the overcommit. Iran is looking for like the what did you say yes to that you shouldn't have but there isn't one because this is exactly what I want to be doing. Well you've been very careful about it.

Two even three methodical and practical and like not to toot my own horn but like we've been together on it. Like I'm doing some of the stuff that you aren't as good at. You're helping me with the stuff that I'm not as good at like it's been very carefully planned and very well thought out which I also think is really hard to do when you have ADHD and you have like a really good idea that you're like really super

excited about. Also, I just decided in this moment, this is the time where I'm going to open up my straw so I can drink my coffee so I just I just I didn't. I'm going to just enjoy the straw a somewhere. First had the idea donkeys that's gonna be? I'm sorry about that. Silly fight everybody when we first had the idea you, you know, there was so much. My mom always used to say that there's there's energy around a

good idea. Look, you can tell a good idea just because all of a sudden you're just fat less tired. You're like. Oh yeah you know. Yeah and that was sort of happening and it's an amazing

elating. Almost like, euphoric feeling when all of a sudden like holy shit, that's a great idea and you like grab You by the shoulders and you were like Eric, like, don't rush this, like we're going to take our time, we're gonna go. We're I think you said build it, build it to last, and I'm definitely feeling that now, especially now that the discords open, and everybody is talking to each other and get along, and coming up with Laura and like, starting, I've already loves and stuff.

I'm just saying you can come join, hot AF pranks if you want, but you have to dma. In asked me very nicely. I'm going to secrecy. I'm so tempted. Just send out the server IP and just go to screw we're starting right now but this is like that last final, push of restraint. But anyways, I so that's dear listener.

That is roughly. The the end of the episode is is following through is pushing through his keeping going keeping going keeping going which is a very hard thing to do. It is when Katie in your life, do you feel that? You've hit those moments of like oh I have to keep going. Like, we have a moment. Um, actually I have Have a reverse answer to that question,

really? Yeah. Because, like one of the reasons like I don't, I don't know if we talked about this a lot but like one of the reasons why I am so just fucking proud of you. And, and so happy about how Quest Craft is going. And honestly, like how just infinite Quest is going is because I don't keep going a lot of the time. Like, I'm a very hard worker and I'm very like good at doing stuff. But I do it in the short-term like, frankly.

So, Sunday is the one-year anniversary of us meeting a person and it's like the evolution one year and three weeks anniversary of the podcast. Yes. But like, and that is really scary to me, because I really like real vulnerable here for a minute but like, because like, I've had a lot of like phases. I've had a lot of phases in my life and a lot of them have to

do with, like hyper fixation. You know, like I had my blacksmith face and I had my magician face and I had like, all these And like, all of those phases were, like, really important to me and they meant so much to me at the time and I grew as a person and I changed as a person but I didn't keep going like the novelty wore off and the the what I was what I was interested in changed. You know what I mean? And infinite Quest is one of the first things that I'm like I

want this to keep going. Like I want to build this to last like the community that we have built and the The people that we've met and the and the work that we're getting to do, like it is become so important to me. And so, like the keeping going of infinite Quest feels In some ways exactly the same as like the day that I decided to become a magician and I think that's what's scary about. Yeah, it's because it's like, I remember being like fuck.

Yeah, Jake like let's go and I like hyper fixated on Magic and I learned it and I put up a show and I was a performer and I bought you know, and it was like and it all just happened because that is my keeping going is like I can start a business. I've started a hundred businesses, but keeping those businesses going, keeping that project going, keeping that Going. It's really hard. Oh yes, really hard. I think I totally agree that. I think the fact this is like happened before.

Yeah. Is what's really scary about it? Like I do, it's like I don't, I don't trust it. There's a mistrust kind of feeling because like, my brain is looking for, that overcommitted moment. What is the thing I said? Yes to that. I shouldn't have what. When did I get in too deep? You know, but This isn't that? Yeah, this is a different way. Exactly. The same with infinite. Quest it felt different. I mean, I remember when we first

met, I feel like I'm a dear. Listen, I know what we keep bringing it back to like, Austin are specific thing. Like, for not like we're promoting the podcast on the podcast, but I promise, that's not our intent. Hopefully, we perhaps we'll get more General as we move on. But there was the same same fear. I felt when we started infinite Quest. And I, and when I think I Is when we realized what it was and when we realize like, oh, this isn't like, oh yeah, I started a

podcast for a couple was cool. And then the dead. And then we move on with our lives when it started to become, holy shit. This is unlike anything I've ever done before it. Was that same feeling of. Yeah, I can't, just of, just waiting for the dopamine to wear off basically. Yeah, of waiting, till the day, where this thing that I feel so excited about now, will one day be something that I'm just like, fuck?

How did I get myself into this? Because you I don't want to speak for you, but I know I've certainly been there a million times where I have like an epic brainstorming session with a group of people about a project and I'm like hey I can do that. Yes, sir all I did that video by. I can do a video a week for the next two months or whatever it is. Yeah, and then thinking, holy shit, what did I just do? And it's it's been a really useful inventory. Taking a moment for myself or

time for myself. This whole thing. All that the quest graph inequalities because I'm it's like it's how I say this. It's a useful case study in watching my brain. Do what it does. Yeah, it's really hard to watch your brain, do what it does but noticing like oh look at that. When somebody said to me I'm really excited for this or like quest Quest, For example, like yesterday. When somebody said to me, I'm really excited to look forward to this. My brain went. Oh god.

Oh no. If I gotta go. Yeah, and I had to like, oh whoa, what was that? Yeah! What a my brain just do right there. Holy shit, brain and like, and it's hard to not. I I said this a long time ago in the hygiene episode, but I try to not antagonize my brains worse habits worst habits because one is mainly mainly because it's not useful but also our brains do what it does because our brain thinks that's what it should do. Trying to protect us is trying to help us and so it's like what

is my Brain doing our. Why is my brain freaking out? When this person told me that they were excited and it was worried that it was looking at all the data behind me saying, like, oh, you're gonna ruin that you're gonna, you're gonna eventually get bored of this and walk off because that's happened. A lot of times before. Yeah. But I think consistently in manually recognizing that I truly don't feel that. This is one of those things or think this is one of those

things. This is different. I'm not over committed. I am just committed. Is a Range like new world and thank you. It's been weird to watch my brain go through. What has been going through lately. Do you? I mean, do you feel similarly? Do you feel that your brain is doing strange habitual things while this is happening? Yeah, I mean it's it's we're recording this episode. I'm like a really weird period

of my life. We're going to talk about this more spoiled teaser trailer advertising the podcast on the podcast. But we're going to talk about this more. But I hired a team of Organizers to come in and to basically help me with the house because it had basically gotten to the point where it's just like completely out of control because the keeping going of infinite Quest and to keeping going of doing what I get to do means that I

don't have time. I just I just don't have time and so it had gotten really, really bad. And so I'm in this like really weird head space where like I'm getting over the sort of like guilt and shame and frustration and Terror of that experience, which by the way I cannot stress is not has been just like the best fucking decision I have

ever made. Like it was, it was such a fucking good decision to have this happen but I've been thinking a lot about how I work and how my brain works and my response to things and like How I process setbacks and challenges, and all of this stuff. And I've been, and I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot about myself, and I also like, and, like, sort of like, a weird, But it what, you know, when they have coffee and then you buy at the store but then you pour water into it

and it makes more coffee. What do you call that? Oh, oh yeah, yeah. Concentrate like this is like Quest Craft has been like a very like concentrated version of that like within this like larger. So it's like, it's like a concentrated Inception, you know what I mean? Which is like it's better. It's like it's A lot stronger coffe coffee concentrate at the bottom that said yes I just got some trace of the guys, I concentrate and drink it but then somebody told me that

you're not supposed to do that. I did that very bad for you. It did. They ready really? At least the Trader. Joe's. As they read it really small on the bottle. Yeah, so just as like, cold, brew coffee a day and then concentrate on the bottom. So I'm just like, oh, wow, my heart is like, not happy with what I just drank. Yeah, that's why I drink it to concentrate. Thanks Trader, Joe's? Are you really laughing at that? Dog wasn't dumbest shit I've ever sold.

No, it's not because it was ready to also the word concentrate in that regard. I remember being a kid and seeing like, not from concentrate on, you know, juice things. Yeah. And I was like, I asked one of my parents, I was like, that's where it's so, what is what does that mean?

Because gyno concentrate, as like a word for the thing that you do, when you're focusing is concentrating and they were like, oh it also means, you know, they explained to me the juice thing and And I remember thinking like that strange, that that word means two different and unrelated things.

And then as I got older and started getting more curious about language, you know, I start I realized like, oh, they're concentrated because they're both like condensed versions of so, you know, like you're concentrating your brain space, you know? And I was like, woah language is fucking cool, I'm nine, this is too much for me, I'm gonna go outside. Anyways, we're talking about something serious. Go hole in my backyard. Go bang a rock with a hammer, right?

I recommend wear safety glasses though. But yeah, like I think so. I guess like that, it's just been really interesting because it's this past like couple of weeks especially have really put a lot of things into perspective for me especially because I'm burnt the fuck out on Tick-Tock. Like I like and I know it's going to upset a lot of people to hear that but like I'm very done with it.

Like and I'm gonna keep making tick tocks because it is like where the bulk of my audience is but it's like I'm finding so much more reward in things like twitch and and the quest graph stuff and YouTube and like just like longer form stuff. And also I don't have to like put my heart and soul into something that is just completely dependent on an algorithm that just fundamentally hates me.

But I'm really burned out on it and so like I've been Dealing with this sort of like, weird like oh my God, like I'm really burnt out. Does this mean I'm going to like stop doing it. Like you know and then also at the same time like we've been recording and my quest episodes like a later and later and later in the day it sometimes on Thursdays like today and it's okay like that is that's how life happens and we've gotten to a place where the fuck was I

talking about? Burnt out on TV, right? Yeah. Like we've gotten to a place where like, you know, we can edit the episode in 20 minutes as opposed to like when we first started and it took us two days. Yeah. And so there's just all of this like keeping going that's happening. There's like the keeping going of, like, okay, I know that I have to keep making Tik toks because that's like where my platform is. But I also want to keep going in

these like other directions. But I also want to keep going in terms of like Finding a balance between like work in life. But I also want to keep going in terms of like learning how to better ask for help and like, the experience would like the organizers have been really possible but I also want to like keep going with Quest graft and I want it to become something really good at especially for you and so I'm just having there's just like it's just like a lot.

Like it's just like a lot right now and I'm not mad about it or the upset about it but it's just been like this really like interesting. Couple of weeks in like really evaluating like my, I guess like usual patterns of behavior because I'm like, I'm too that like year mark and I'm like, oh, oh, like this is where. This is, where this is where it starts. But with that, it's only been a year. Yeah. And that's what I'm excited about the existential dread.

I have about like, oh, it's been a year that means it's time to like find a new Focus or whatever. But I think what we are discovering and I don't want to speak for you, but I think one of the things that I'm discovering is that like Keeping going can mean having infinite Quest but then adding something new or like you know, changing it up or like you know, maybe I'm going to make a few more YouTube videos this month instead of Tik toks or whatever.

Like we can keep going and it can look different than it did before but it doesn't mean that I'm completely abandoning it. I'm not completely giving it up. I think that's really important. Yeah, I also make any sense at all. I feel like I'm just going like hopeful therapy on this episode. So I'm really sorry to everybody at home. I'm just like going through a lot right now. Let me tell you if you're great, you're wonderful.

You're my favorite. Well, I think, and I kind of a lot of times particularly as it relates to ADHD, the more granularly I think about something or I guess medically, the more granularly but for the the longer I think about something granularly. The more likely it is that I eventually will come to the realization that ADHD in the way of the stuff that our brain does is all intrinsically related to our experience. With time, time is time is

everything. But so much so many times, the seemingly weird and complicated manifestations of Do not move. Move your coffee away from your elbow, right? This minute. Okay. Thank you, sweetheart. I was, I was gesturing. Pretty hard right then. Good eye sweetheart. Lost your laptop. Oh no. It was supposed to a lot of a lot of holy bejeebers creepers. Sorry. No new rule coffee and Tac dough. Mix is going to be, it's going to be like a like a conservative dance.

We're going to 12 inches between Tech and coffee at All times I was the most stage manager I have ever gotten in this, on this podcast. Really good house good. When I was a full Tak whole, that's really good. Thank you sweetheart. So anyway, time time, yes, time the universe and everything and I think it's important to not immediately pathologize all Behavior as being due to your nerd word. So absolutely we are every

person is a whole ass person. Your nerd emergencies is part of who that is so I don't want to make it seem like Every single thing. My brain does is a direct result of my ADHD. That being said, some things that it does. Our director old result of my ADHD but because ADHD is so fundamental. It often is hard to track what is and is not ADHD, like, what is just something that I'm I've trained myself to do over the years, or what is a response to a situation that happened years

ago. And what is ADHD weirdness? But I think a good tell for if something is ADHD, weirdness is, does it have to do with your relationship? Ation ship to time and frankly ones, misunderstanding of time and illiteracy with time. And in my case, I want to speak for everybody. I mean you can your I mean you're at least speaking for me as well. So it's nice to us but time is is the signature on the that

sort of thing? Yeah, for example, well you just set your web at the year mark like that a year is a long fuckin time in some respects, sometimes it goes very fast. Yeah. But on a more granular level. Like for example, today, we were doing a bunch of work before this and as soon as we're done recording this, we're going to do a bunch more stuff, but I think I'll fuck, I need a change over the laundry. Do you want to do on it doing a pause? No. I'll just be like, okay, I'm sure.

Literally just remember that because you were talking about the work we did earlier and I forgot. But hand over your laundry. Also take out your garbage and drink some water. Nice nice, nice, nice. It led that helped at least a couple people, right? Well you should garbage day tomorrow. Maybe, maybe. I know for some of you it is but I have like a one in seven chance of a great looking at you Kyle, Kyle, it's garbage day tomorrow. Okay, somewhere out there. There's a Kyle just like what

the fuck just happened. Also Samantha. Your keys are on the counter. Oh shit. I think we just realized as a whole new games that we can play as a new one, I like this game. But um, I think if I had a better working understanding of time and a better literacy with how I manage my time I think what takes me a full 8-hour day of weird clerical computer eat IP work would actually take honestly like an hour and a half if Was really for organized about it. I think about like in a kitchen.

For example, for those of you who don't know, I was I was a cook for almost 10 years and professionally and a lot of the time when you think of all the if you just stamped, if you just think of the things you have to do before service, all the things you have to prep and shop and put in place and clean and

all that stuff. It's like there's no possible fucking way I could do that in two hours or so but the only way to survive in a, you know, high-level kitchen is to fiercely organize that time which I had a really hard time doing but I had to learn to do it and eventually you realize you can get a living fuck ton done in two hours if you're very deliberate about how you organize your time.

So anyways, this type of work, the computer rework, the writing Discord rules and thank you an, for all the dangerous stuff we've been doing. Thank you. And, and keeping up with constant messages coming. All that stuff. I'm, that is by far, the type of work that I'm the worst at. Yeah. And so anyways, all this is to say that stench of oh, my this this comes down to my lack of a working understanding of time,

that's the thread throughout. This that is just all over me right now where I'm constantly thinking like, wow, I am taking eight hours to do what could be done in an hour and a half because of my literacy with time. Yeah. But that's also one of the reasons This is a bit of a tangent on what would probably already was a tangent but I don't remember hanjin deception. Whoa, concentrate continent in its tangent. Second option. Oh I lost it. Wait no I got I got I got it, I got it.

Oh a lot of this is also been an exercise in practicing things that I'm really shitty at which is one of the main reasons. I also really like Minecraft is because a lot of the things that Minecraft asks of the person playing Minecraft is something that I Really fucking struggle with, which is part of you know why I find it useful, not just enjoyable, but useful. Well, anyways, there's a lot going on it. So, it's been a lot longer, but it be either way.

I'm trying to figure out basically what are the things that I can change and what are the things that I need to accept? Essentially, because this is not a case where I think I've overcommitted, this is a just, I've decided to commit and that's a scary thing. Thing to do. I suppose really teed off at the end there. I'm sorry but it is genuinely been a long couple days. Well, for what? It's worth. I'm really really proud of you time for an interstitial Oh hey look a takes me.

Carl Channing give me be Christopher Walken. Yeah you made it to the middle of the episode. Good job could be do graduations, drink some water, I was in Reservoir Dogs. This is he who were not in Reservoir Dogs. Okay, and I was in, I was in scary movies to something straight.

Yeah, this is, it will make sense if you listen to the rest of the Second, you'll get it. Well, hey, before we bring back to the the real episode where we're not just, I mean, we're jacking around in that episode 2, I guess. Yeah. But we wanted to let you know that we are currently in the process of especially with Quest Craft of sort of expanding the infinite Quest universe. So if you're not following us over on Twitch and if you're not following us over on YouTube, you should do that.

You should do that because we're going to start making a lot more like, long form content. We're gonna start doing, we're streaming, and we're really, really excited. About it. It's going to be a lot different than Tick-Tock, but we're really pumped for indeed. It is about to go down Elsewhere on the internet, so follow. Hey, good on Twitch and YouTube. Follow kpo Soros on Twitch and YouTube because a bunch of shit is about to start happening over

there. And we're going to reference it a lot probably and you're not going to know what's going on. So from me Christopher Walken. Yeah, boop. Boop, boop do kill. This is my signature Carol Channing It's a dance. You can't see it, but it's been doing it. Just flailing my fingers around. Anyways, back to the episodes. In blue, blue, blue, blue, try it. Welcome back. What a good interstitial that was one, dude. Holy shit. Fucking enters. Also do here, my hip pop? No, I didn't.

I was just got style. I have the recording now. So I'm going to, I'm going to isolate it. Andre mix it. Well, yeah, it's not just set it to MIDI keys, on a keyboard. That's great. Thought it was a good initial. Do I really like the musical number that was really good. Yeah. The the part, where you performed the entire monologue from Hamlet? Oh yeah, it's really good. Well, I mean your Christopher Walken impersonation was spot. I mean, it was nothing compared to your Carol Channing.

I don't know who that is, but I'm glad to know ya. It's join here again. It sounds like this. Hey, look at me. I'm Carol Channing Opieop do weirdly. Close for not knowing who Carolina Gun. Hey, Carol Channing, how are you hearing my mom's not good actor, yeah, nailed it, nailed it. And I'm from the fifties. And I have two eyes, actually. Carol turning famously had an eye patch.

Oh, really? Yeah, and it was also a dog, it's Carol. Standing was a dolly actress, a Labrador, Retriever in a trench coat. So anyway, speaking of Carol, Channing at a church. Hello Dolly. That was very funny. Really funny was you say, oh, I so think about it. I was thinking about I was thinking about something because you were talking about time and and a year.

And and and I think it's really interesting because like, there's this part of me that feels like I've been doing infinite quest for forever because like that's how That's how my brain works. It's either like now or forever ago or an impossibly long distance away. There really isn't an in between, which makes like we're, but I'm weirdly good at event planning and I will never

understand why. But like, one of the things that I am trying to figure out how to like get to this point, but like, well, okay, actually a really good idea or a really good way of presenting. This is talking about the organizers, some more So, I have craft room, and I'm going to make a Tic Tac about this. But like my craft room has been, just like a deeply, rooted seed of Shame, and guilt and embarrassment for a very long time because it was it

completely unusable space. It it went from like, oh I'm going to put some boxes in there to like just Yeet every empty cardboard box and piece of thing that I don't know what to do with and it wound up being like Really bad. And so these organizers came in and in, I shit you not less than three hours had made the space completely functional.

And that, you know what I mean? And it's just like, and, you know, like if you hear bumps and, and, and clunks in the background, it's because they're actually finishing up right now as we record this podcast, but, like, washing that happen like watching a couple of people come in and do. What literally has taken me three years in three hours? I was very humbling it was very embarrassing. A little bit, I mean it really made me think about time, you

know, like that kind of thing. But even more than that it also made me kind of weirdly reflect on on keeping going if we're going to circle back to the topic because it's like, oh yeah, they just did it until it was done but like I don't I can't do that. I really struggle with that. I'm really curious because what I saw that happen when I've seen everything they've done as I like walk around your house and Lisa the shelves you see the shelter?

Yeah my gosh all sorts of like boxes and stuff. Yeah like pretty and stuff incredible but what I've as I walk around and I think this is just because of my background in music and cooking as I walk around the house and see the stuff that they've done, I think of skill. Yeah, I think I wonder what practices and I'm using that word very deliberately Yeah, they're using to do this because I doubt any of them were just like born being this good.

I mean, perhaps I'm sure they had some sort of natural. Aptitude who knows? But well, there's no way you're next week. What? I was going to say but she agreed to be on the podcast, right? Yeah. So now we're going to talk to her for that. I know it's gonna be around so curious what she has to say, but that's what what Rings your means. I wonder what rules that you like if they have concrete rules, like, I noticed she talked a lot about Invisible.

Which I love specifically for people with ADHD but I'm wondering like what are the tenets that are like the laws for them that they follow? We'll find out next time. Find out next week but I'm sorry you were gonna say something. No I was going to go on a whole thing about neanderthals oh that's weird I'm still going to but that's alright. Well one of the things that I also think gosh, how do I phrase this so, Secretly deep deep down in my soul.

I want to be a McElroy. That is I promise I'm going somewhere with this but like for those of you who don't know, they're just family and they're basically like the best podcasters and they've been doing it for forever.

And they are the reason why I love DOD and it's just like, it's in. I really look up to them as podcasters And very recently I was I was like supposed to be on a panel with with a McIlroy and that was one of the weirdest moments of my life because I have been doing this for a year. And so like in the in the keeping going of infinite Quest, there have been so many moments where like I'm like I idolize, these are like em. Oh yeah. Like I don't like our good friend Adam.

You're not listening because we just we were just talking about you yesterday or talk about how fucking great you are.

Yeah, we were, um, we actually, we were, you know, people like and the McElroy's and, and these like other, like, really successful podcasters, are people that like, I like wildly look up to. and, at some point, I had this moment where I went, I've been doing this a year, like, The McIlroy, like the, like Adventure Zone, like, didn't happen in a year, you know, like it was built. It was grown like that platform was built and grown.

And so, like one of the big, like, motivators for me, in terms of keeping going, has really become. Like, I want to see what happens. Like, I just I just do like I like and it's weird. Like, it's one of the things that I, this is going to take such a dark turn, but it's like, I'm going to die before I I know what happens and that sucks because like I want to find out what happens to the entire universe.

Like I want to see like what happens to civilization and I want to know, like do we ever get spaceships, you know, like that kind of thing. Tell you this, but we very much have space. Yeah. But like cool spaceships. Not like lame boner spaceships. Okay, one funny on his face, that was a funny thing to say, right there. Very quick. Funny but I'm thinking is, is I'm thinking? Is it like a lame boner spaceship?

Or is it a lame boner space is? It's a spaceship that looks like a boner that is lame or is it like a lame spaceship? Because it looks like a boner but like you know it's like is the is are you comparing the spaceship to Ale? Boner. Anyways, that took, I'm going to that hit different you decide. I'm gonna go with secret bonus options. See it's actually a vagina. No, no, no, that was terrible. But leave it in.

Okay, like I feel like the closest thing to a vagina spaceship we have so far is College Rob. Oh no. The was a really good job. Like the like the Mandalorian spaceships. I feel like those kind of look like vagina. Yeah. Yeah, well, I solve I guess if we're using proper terminology, this is another thing. I something one of my pet peeves in like sci-fi shows and movies and stuff. So on the ships look like vulvas. No, yes, yes, exactly.

That's a transformation look. More like a lame boner, but what it once it once in a space. What's your in space? There's no such thing as aerodynamic. It doesn't matter. Like the dust doesn't matter, right? Because what it looks rad, what's right? So like, whenever I see a spaceship, That never is in the atmosphere. It's just only in space but has like wings. Yeah, fuck is the point once when they're hot, when they're in an atmosphere, that's a different story.

But like, when they're, like on the moon and they are only on them. Anyways, it's a whole thing. But vagina, spaceships. Totally a thing. Not very practical like in an atmosphere but once you're in space, look you know, you could spin it and get artificial gravity going on, you know, Kerbal Space Program. Shoutout. Yeah. Anyways it's very serious mental. Health podcast we're talking about today. Welcome to our top 50 mental health podcasts.

So today's topic is very Vulva spacious crows are cawing up next. We got Joe Rogue but you were talking about I do because I derailed us all about, you were talking about how I want to see what her dress to see what happens. And so like, one of the things is like like I don't think we we ever started this project to to become like a like a like a famous pod killing. I'm just gonna say it like I don't think we saw it to become. Famous podcasters. I think we just wanted to like,

see what what happened? Yeah. And so like this whole thing has been a grand experiment of just seeing what would happen over and over and over again. And so like I'm really excited for year five, like I think your five is going to look very different than year one and I hope that we're still friends and you want to still talk to me, but like I worry about that Cesaro pretty goddamn constantly all the time. I worry about that area.

But like, but that's but that's it is like I want to know like what What, what happens? Like, whoa, what does this become? What does this look like? And so like the Curiosity and the excitement of the, keeping going of this project that like we've started together and it is so meaningful and important to me. And it has, I mean, it's changed both of our lives. Like I literally right behind me.

I have the Post-it note that I wrote my favorite thing that you've ever said she was six months ago. I was a pizza cook. Yes. My favorite thing you've ever said in an interview really?

Yeah, because it just is just like this, this whole thing, the keeping going, the decision to like wake up every day and work a fucking 12-hour day and build this community and make the content and admin the content, which honestly neither of us are good at. I'm slightly better in that I like can type faster than you but like the keeping going like it. The keeping going has changed

our lives forever. Yeah, I think fundamentally the keeping going is worth it. Yeah, just that just feel sad that it's worth it. I mean I was thinking as we were whereas I was researching how to make Quest Craft be a thing not to keep bringing it back to the plug but you know, go follow. Hey, good on YouTube, The Quest Craft challenge Erik really quickly. Yeah, what's a Quest Craft 3 times vary? Quest, Craft Quest.

Craft Quest Craft. I was surprised a lot of people who can't do. It was very scarred. We're learning this. Really, it's Quest. Craft is very hard to say. Quickly Quest, Craft Court, it is Quest Craft Quest Craft. Its you see well we're going to have to do you see, we're going to have to figure the cool crap, quick vacucraft. She cracked. But as I was doing research on other successful, we're I'll end

by successful. I mean servers that have been around for a while and have like successfully. Chained, an active Community. I like how did those work and and I want to name drop anything but you and I happen to know some people who are very prominent who were and still are very prominent Minecrafter. People fans, mmm-hmm fancy boy in a bubble at elbows are convention, man. And a lot of them are connected to wonderful.

Nice people. And that's it turns out those, some of those elbows are just connected to very rad. People who just like one tool, hang out with you which is startling and weird. But as well, There are a lot of servers. Well, let's just take one, which is one of the most successful servers ever hermitcraft server. It was started its in its eighth season so 80 or ish but season one started it was fights with it was existed season to a little better season 3. I don't know.

Something happened a bunch of people left season 3 was like a crash like holy shit like this could be the end of it but then they did a season for And then a season five and then it's in so on and it got too, and I got to come back. They didn't stop after that rough season 3 and season for wasn't amazingly spectacular comeback. Either it was just a regular old but they just fucking kept

going. And now her, you know, by your hermit crab season eight were on, it's this massive wonderful project that creates a bunch of amazing content for amazing people. It's like just genuinely an awesome Force for good in the world like and then none of that would have happened if they had stopped after They kept going, they got to see what happened and it was worth it.

I banged a spring, I think of it, sort of, almost like, rolling the dice like just, you know, there's a lot of Randomness in bullshit and Chaos that goes on and on and in a person's life and You just just wrote he had bad rolls. Yeah, so sometimes you get bad roles for years but you just keep going, you just keep rolling the dice.

I also, another weird analogy that my brain shocked out was was thinking about how a video game character particularly I was think about the game jak3 from the Jak and Daxter series, one of my favorite games of all time. If any of you play that game, hi im a Jak and Daxter fan. I But I remember thinking I was like a kid. I was probably 14 ish but I remember thinking there a lot of

really hard bosses in that game. So I won't go into the details of the game, but basically you're a character, you play through levels, its kind of platform, jumpy there, bang, Bang, shooty, shooty, there bunch of bosses that you have to fight some of, which are very hard and you just die over and over and over and over and over again. You know, back when video games were actually difficult instead

of anyway. Now, no huge video game rant Eric know that is for the podcast that you're going to start a year from now again I want to see what happens but I remember thinking no matter how strong the villain is and how you know comparably week the character is the villain the boss is outmatched. Every time hopelessly outmatched for one, very specific reason and that's that you respawn and you come back. The boss will never win provided

that you keep playing over time. The boss will lose 100% of the time, as long as you keep playing, because you will always respond. And you will always try again. And that makes the weakest of characters unfuckin defeatable because they will come back, and they will try again. And I took that to heart. I think about that all the time, no matter what condition or position you're in.

If you persistence getting back up trying again makes you unbeatable, makes you the most powerful thing in the universe, no matter what you're up against is you just keep fucking going and that is something that I don't know. I really value a lot That's the smartest thing you have ever said, really? If you don't get a TED talk and you don't say exactly those words and exactly that order, I will be furious. And there is no justice in this

universe. Jesus is a bad time to tell you, I do. I'm not recording any of this, I'm kidding. I clearly am ican ican. You can see the thing, but no, I really mean it. I mean, a lot of times I think it's something that's really something that I have to work on constantly is Discrediting cliches because they sound dorky and weird. But a lot of cliches I want to say all of them, but a lot of cliches are cliches, a, you know, trite sayings.

Because they're so fucking insanely true that although it sounds annoying. It is correct. So for example, Dory from motherfucking Finding Nemo, just keep swimming. It's like that's such a nice thought but it's like I think that all the time. I think that like several times a day just just keep going not not for any profound moral. No reason not because it's like logically the right thing to do. You just keep going.

Just keep just keep rolling the dice because that is an unbeatable Force persistence kind of why I like Spider-Man a lot. And I also like into the spider-verse is he just says the Only Rule to being Spider-Man is you just always get back up. And that's one of the reasons of Spider-Man is on people. Even when he's hopelessly outmatched is he will never give up. And like again, those cliches of like You know, never give up like it all sounds so trite, but I fully subscribed to it.

So anyways, hermitcraft Jak and Daxter series Spider-Man. All wrapped in the same bubble keeping going is, just always the correct answer and it's not because it always is obvious, not because it's always feels right or that, it's always seems logically correct? But just because no matter what position you're in or what you're up against keeping going, Going, that's a power that you can always have. You can always fan that flame within you.

I mean, I really mean it. Yeah, you want to hear my Neanderthal rant? I teased her Neanderthal, rant, what was it on a rant? But it's a point, I think it's really interesting. I would, I am, I am I don't even understand. I'm facin it. I'm just buckling the fucking see where this goes, please. Please, please go. Well, or so neanderthals. Neanderthals, coexisted with got if I'd pride is listening, this, she's gonna correct me on this or something.

I'd probably, that is, it tick tock whose fantastic, you should follow and I interviewed them. The other day and I haven't passed the episode yet because I'm very busy, but soon enough my interview odd Pride will be posted, go follow them.

Anyways, neanderthals coexisted with Homo sapiens for a little while couple thousand years neanderthals although we use that as like an insult, you know, you know cells were actually smarter they're bigger brains and they were stronger than Homo sapiens but hand with all's died out and Homo Ian's survived. We survived even though we were weaker and we were Dumber. Why? Well Katie. There's a number of theories. I mean nobody was there. So it's hard.

So these are my thoughts, but the people who know a lot about this, have a number of theories, mainly since the Neanderthals were very strong and very smart, if they needed to hunt a thing, they would just go up and just beat the shit out of it because there were strong enough to do that. Okay, Homo sapiens were weaker. Every time you say Homo sapiens I think you're To say homosexuals and then it's funnier in my head every single time.

You are an adult person. I know, I have to grease and I still giggle at the word homo sapiens. All right. Oh yeah, I mean the word. Masticate is hilarious. I mean, come on. It's just some things while I was with my dad wants one of the wisest thing to Dad ever said to me is I mean I'm paraphrase probably toss this around my head a little bit. Just never don't laugh at farts like no matter who you are what you're doing in life. If you're a senator like just

farts are funny. Just laugh at farts. Okay. If you ever get to a point in your life where you don't feel like, Should could laugh at farts. You get, you know, you got some self, certainly some soul-searching to do, but the Neanderthal uniforms and Homo sapiens Homo sapiens were weaker. So homo sapiens couldn't just run up and beat the shit out of the thing. They had to invent different technologies that were more

clever and safer. If they had to invent ranged things they had to invent complicated hunting strategies because they couldn't just run up and beat the shit out of it because they were weaker. And And didn't have those complex brighter, but largest brains, they had to address. What is the best way to hunt this? Mammoth neanderthals didn't have to do the best way because perfect a decent way work just fine right. Homo sapiens didn't have that luxury.

They had to be clever about it because they couldn't just brute force it and do it. This just feels like not science. I believe you it just seems dicey. I don't know why. Well if I'm wrong you know please. The emails in a minibus and really like to know. Yeah. But I believe you. It's just seems weird. I don't know why. Anyways, you know, those aren't around anymore. We are and that. Yeah, I think about this guy's.

I think about that all the time when it comes to the things that were bad at when it comes to ADHD. For example, out, I have ADHD, I am profoundly unorganized but I'm also 27. I have a blood of life ahead of me. Hopefully, And although I am profoundly awful at organization, I now have an appreciation for organization that somebody for whom or to whom organization comes naturally, may not have.

I the only way for me to be organized, I see what you think about a really good way of doing it. And to think about what is organization mean, what is the function of organization? What happens when you're not organized? What does being organized allow? If all that stuff just intuitively can to me like it seems to for Of people who are just always been organized people. That's great.

That's awesome. But they perhaps don't have as deep of an appreciation for it if they were to have lacked it for a very long time. Yeah. And so when I'm bad at something, ADHD wise, I'm think I'm in a way I'm grateful because the fact that I'm bad at the thing, makes me appreciate what being good at it could do for me and appreciate the work. Work that it would take to get

there, not all the time. It's very frustrating to be bad at certain things, but some of the most organized people, I know weird profoundly unorganized for like 30 years but because of that, they had to address it. They couldn't just sort of, you know, throw stuff places. Or, for example, that's one good example is, you know, I set things down and forget where I put them hundreds of times a day, it is frustrates me to no end. And because of that, I think very deeply and very frequently

about how to avoid that problem. Where should I put things? How do I avoid setting things down and forgetting? So I have to put hooks places. I have to have little drawers for things and now you know I think I showed you a while ago, when you first saw my old apartment with all the little boys I said, okay, he asked me where my dongle is and you're like, where's you're doing? And I like just reach back open to Tiny jar and it was right there because I had a bunch of

labeled as drawers, you know. But basically, When we're bad at, when you're naturally bad at something, or when you're naturally not good at something or when you lack a skill, I think it lends an appreciation for the scale that you might

not. Otherwise have if you just have always had it being starting at a detriment makes its, it's not fair and it's there's a lot of work to be done which can really suck but you get stuff out of that if you you decide to you know the unobserved unexamined life is not worth living. I don't necessarily Agree with that.

But if you decide to appreciate that work, I think it can do a lot for us. Certainly you know, fuck Neanderthals. I feel like though that just makes you good at organization because, you know, that you're bad at it. And so you've developed a system to make yourself organized, like, you know, where your dongle is will write. But I think, I think because you kept going, they're like the frustration is what I'm saying. Nice, bring it back. I did you like that?

You did you just so I just want to shout out the like three people who listen to you talking and then you said, living the unexamined life and then they all thought of Wicked at the same time. So shout out to see that and wicked. Yes really yes I was thinking about like three people who just want.

Oh yeah, that song and then like moved on with our day but I just wanted you to know that if you're listening dear listener and you thought that I'm right here with you, I was thinking about Demetri Martin, this comedy special. If I got one of the best things I've ever seen in my entire life, you right now is so underappreciated. I feel like I have them on the podcast.

I feel like he got shafted by John Mulaney because they were like coming up at the same time and then like John Mulaney like got like way more popular. But like, they're like so different like same audience, very different styles. Do each one came about a little earlier than John Mulaney because yeah, yeah, yeah, his Comedy Central and special was in like mid to late 2000s. He got his own show for a little while, important things with Demetri Martin.

Yeah, but he is a very what he does is very much different he does. Yeah, like it is Demetri Martin style house stuff, but yeah, I'll go watch if I it is one of the most amazing things. I've ever seen in my life and it prompted like a year-long palindrome phase for me, I wrote a very long palindrome. Anyways, what's the comedy special where they was like a show? And it was like, the two old guys, but they weren't actually old guys. Oh, it's oh, hello.

Yeah, but that is Millennia Nicole, my favorite thing I've ever watched. Did you go? Did you see? Oh, hello. Yes, like on Broadway! Oh no, I saw, I watched like the special, okay, but that shit was like, that's all improv fucking so goddamn good. It's great. There's one. They do a bit where it's like, it's really, you know, it's John Mulaney and Nick Kroll. They Play these the character of these two old guys is brilliant and but they but it's all improv'd like they did.

They just they just money as has said like we're just sort of discovering these characters. So like as we do I think we discover like oh this happened to this character, I didn't realize that, you know, but it was a do a bit where they interview like a celebrity and the whole thing it the whole time. They just have a sandwich on the middle of the table. It's a tuna sandwich and it has way too much tuna on. It's like a massive and it was

just two pieces of bread. The show is called too much tuna and the Applause line at the very end. The one thing that I imagine they like tell them still everywhere. And is at some point we're going to ask you about the sandwich. I don't know how I'm going to but at some point we're going to add prompt you to comment on the sandwich in which case the celebrity has to say.

I think there's too much tuna and then that's the end of the show, you know, it's there's too much tuna everybody claps. I just comedians, man. I you know, we didn't have to live in that couldn't because that could have not existed. We could live in a world Too much tuna did not exist. But, two people had a very dumb idea, and they took it very seriously and we live in a more enriched and writer world because of it. And I love it. And that's how infinite Quest happens.

That's exactly, that's exactly. Like you were saying that sentence. I went you're literally just describing us right now it's hopeless right. We're going to help Attica happens. Ice Eric like remember the volcano that sounds okay. Alright mccarrick is how all this has happened is Just us two fucking jackasses out onstage and I figure out their lives.

The best thing that's ever happened to Katie high, five high five, That's gonna sound weird because that's in between our two like lean on that before. All right, well he's own. I'm gonna go try to pretend that. I know how to do Discord. You gotta edit the podcast. First load, I also have to do that. Yeah, sure. I'm gonna write the episode description. Hey, thanks. We did. You guys know that I wrote the episode descriptions and Eric edits, the episodes. It's fun.

Fact. Upon fact, fun. Fun podcast fact. Turner and Hooch wait, which one am I? Which one do you want to be on which one makes? Isn't that an okay thing to say which one? Would you not be mad at me? For Spurs? Me strike for you. Sequestered, okay. And broadcast. And that's it. That's the whole thing. That's the episode end of the episode. Congratulations. You listen to it. You did it. You did the whole thing. I hope you finished the dishes that you were in.

So you don't have to like, find another podcast to listen to but like it's like an awkward amount of time. Like you only have like 10 minutes more of dishes Worth to do so, like we can listen the first ten minutes of a podcast, you know, as well we should we should do that.

We should make Like bonus round tiny little episodes that's just like, just in case you have like a little more laundry to fold but the episode is and you can listen to one of the time you had about how good of an idea that really good idea. Right? Is is pretty solid.

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got a bunch of them. Please finish it. Well, you get team Anna over here. You know what? Which one's the vampire. And which one is the werewolf in which one of us is Bella. I mean, clearly, it's me. Yeah. Obviously, I feel very much much more like a stab. The fuck are you. Is that another character? Oh okay.

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