You ready be. Don't put stuff on. Don't hold. The table ohh my name is Katie Ohh. Ohh. Look at me. Hello. I was trying to sing the last name, but then I just did the NPR. With oh shit, they are similar, aren't they? Yeah, what is the NPR one? All things considered with Paisley Apple bottle. And then at the end. It goes right. Something like that. Yeah, you sang it. In one of the last episodes, you sang it like before the commercial break. I think you were like you were
pretty close. I overlaid it with pretty close. Very good. Hi everybody. How's it going, everybody? It's me, Katie Sorens. Yes, hi. Hello, and it's me. Hello good and. Welcome back to Infinite Quest Infinite Quest, which is the name of our podcast. I'm just going to go ahead and start off real. I'm just going. To T us right up you're. Ready. Hi, dear listener. How are you? Good. I couldn't hear you. I'm sorry, but I hope you're doing well. Actually, you know what?
Answer me even though I can't hear you. Hi dear listener, how are you? How are you freely? No, you interrupted them. They were probably considering whether or not they were going to talk, although in their car.
But you know, anyways Steel listener, we've alluded to this like 1,000,000 billions times and I'm so fucking don't want to be like the content creator who's like hey, sorry there's no content other stuff cuz you can only get away with that for so long and we've been doing that for like a year, but we're also there's a very. Good reason? Why we're engaged. We're engaged in another project. We're doing other project that. We can't legally. We can't tell you what it is.
We're not allowed to tell. You but if you want to send your guesses to, ask it if you can't. And it is a thing that requires. A lot of work. On a staggering amount of work. I'm really kind of shocked about it. I mean, I knew it was going to be a lot of work. Yeah, but I didn't think it was going to be this hard. I'm just. So hard. It's so hard anyway. Sorry, I interrupted. No, that's right and. And like I this is what well, I mean, I I mean like shoehorn 80HD to it, but I gots it.
But like. I keep thinking like a person who with like solid working executive functions could have so fucking lutely do the project that we're working on, as well as keeping up with the podcast, keeping up with like Twitch, like keeping up with all the other stuff because they do all the time, but like. For us, whenever we try to divvy out part time between the other thing and the this and the other stuff like I my brain, I. It's Okay.
My brain came like that feeling of I'm never convinced that I'm doing the thing that I should be doing. You know like the priority shuffling that just gets kicked to the Max. Because it's all, it's all important. It's all important. Like if we. Only only only work on the big project and nobody's going to give a shit when it comes out because nobody will remember who the fuck we are cuz we haven't done anything in two years or whatever.
But if we split our time then like you know, I feel like we're half assing 2 things rather than whole assing one thing. And like it would be really nice to just like be like alright this is this project is the only thing that we're doing but like that's how this works baby. Like we have a relationship to like all of y'all and like talking to you and I feel like we've been like friends that have, just like. Moved away and have it called written and I feel bad.
But anyways, we're working on a big fucking motherfucking thing, and I think we're coming to terms with the fact that, like, we have to just, yeah, accept that we're not going to be able to crank out stuff. It's like, I always think about that. Have you ever seen that video of, like, the professor who puts, like, the golf balls in the jar? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the big things are your job and you feed me man, and. Then he puts the the gravel in
the sand. Yeah. And I was like, I always think about that video, cuz I'm like that is not my experience. Like my experience is whatever is sitting in front of me in that moment is the biggest ball in the jar. And it's like I can like plan and I can like put stuff on my calendar. But it's like especially with this project and potentially the other project about the. That one I'm I'm not even letting myself think about that one. But like that. It's it's there's not like a you
work. You know you put it on your calendar to work for like an hour and then you're done. It's like this weird constantly changing time is nebulous sort of thing. And I think like that's the hardest part for me because it's like I'll sit down and be like I'm going to finish this part, you know, or this thing and then four hours later go by and that's not how you say that for. Hours later, time has gone by, I think. That's how I want to do. It.
But you know what I mean. And then it's like I've done either way more than I thought I was going to do or I've I've done one very small I've tried so hard not to use action verbs, but like, you know what I mean. And so, like, that's the part that I get frustrated like the other. Day I was working on a part and I was like, oh, this is going to take me 20 minutes. It's been 3 days.
Well, it's it's also, God damn it, this is so ridiculous that we're like, we can't say it's so obvious what it is that we're talking about because because we could talk about it. We talked about how we wanted to do it. For a while we did, and that was totally fine. But now that we're actually doing it, we're not all sorry and. Dear listener, we will also let you know if you don't know what's going on, listen back few
episodes. Well, like 20. Yeah. And also know that we will be making the formal announcement soon. We just have to wait for like the permission. Yeah, they go ahead. Well, yeah. What's also hard about this particular type of project is like, I'll start working on a certain part of it. This is so fucking so dumb a certain part of it.
And I'll be like this part of it is like just a couple things like and then I'll think about it more and go well actually this is kind of related to the other. Well, actually. Larger content. And then all of a sudden it becomes like this is a whole thing in itself. And three days later you've got nothing done. Well, another. Thing is that this Jesus Christ, this particular type of project is one of the projects where like.
TikTok is fast. Like it's it's if you spend too long perfecting A TikTok trend video, like most of the time I have ever tried to put trend video, you're never going to post, you're going to miss the boat and you know it's better to have it done than have to be perfect. Or is this the type of project where it's like with the amount of time that gets spent on it? Like you know, it's not like a, you know, month, two-month, couple month thing. It's like a several year long thing.
I don't want to pass up on actually this other interesting thing that I didn't realize is connected to this other. Like I want to have time to be able to explore all those things. I really don't want to feel like I'm half assing or leaving stuff out which is. If I open them blinds, it's so dark in here and I'm so sad, yeah. Absolutely, sweetie. Of Cush. Of Cush. Right. Blindfoly. Yeah, Nice. Wow.
The old timey radio show. But yeah, that priority shuffling where like I don't actually know if I've said like priority shuffling. Ooh. Like a Queen Bailey. Bailey's surveying her her Kingdom. Nice. But. I don't know if I've actually said priority shuffling like on the podcast I probably have. But priority shuffling is what I call when you're have a thing that you need to do when you start doing it, But as soon as you start doing it, you're like, actually this other thing is
more important. Actually, this other thing is more important. Actually this other thing is more important. And no one thing stays at the top of the priority list for long enough to make any meaningful progress on it. So my priority shuffling is just nuts now because there's a bunch of things, all of which are actually important. And, like, all of which could be like, I'm going to do this for an hour and a half, and then
this for an hour and a half. But even during those hour and a half, even though I know that I've scheduled later to work on that thing. The whole time I'm not working on the thing. I'm just like, Oh my God, I should be working on the thing. I should be working on the thing. Unless I am working on the thing. And then it's like, I should be doing all this other stuff. I should be doing all this other stuff. It's tough and. I don't know. I think, God, this is so hard.
The thing about The thing is also a thing that we have to start working on. Like we haven't started that part of it at all and we have to like that's part of it. It's not. We gotta do the same for the thing. This is really good podcast. But you know what I mean? Like, like and I know what you mean about because, well, the. Second thing doesn't exist unless the first thing exists and is really good.
Yeah, you know. So I think the first step towards the second thing is making sure the first thing is fucking yeah. Really good. But it's just fuck me, dude. Yeah, I know it's. Weird. And so, yeah. So anyway, all of that to say we are going to cut back on the number of episodes that we drop. Sorry, I put up a point of order hand here that is correct we are but I also in point of that we have cut back on the so I think we're more.
Rather than doing that thing where every week, Well, OK, so like when I when I talk to Eric about wanting to talk about this on the podcast, I like, I was like, hey, I want to put like a concrete number on it. And the reason why was because for me. It's like every week it's Tuesday and Thursday and we're working on this other project and we go we should make a podcast today or we have to make a podcast today with that like oh shit, like we're letting you
all down and we're we're failing in our goal to accomplish recording and editing and posting a podcast which honestly like it takes a bit of time like it. It's we've streamlined the process but they're still like. A couple of hours on the front end and back end, so it winds up being a three to four hour process whenever we make a podcast. Yeah. It's like about half a day. And so every Thursday I'm sitting at my desk and I'm like, oh fuck, we didn't make a
podcast for. Fucking failures for pieces of shit. I hate myself. Which is not good practice. And So what I really wanted to do was I wanted to one be remodel realisticism. But then also just because in that way, I think it's not it. It sets us up for success because it, you know, posting a podcast a month, maybe a little bit more like yes, Dear Listener, we know that it's not going to be the same as getting
two podcasts every single week. But the thing that we're working on is so important to us and it's so meaningful. And it also frankly is the kind of thing that could change our lives forever. Even more so than they. Already have, even more so than than we already have. And like at the start of this, when Eric and I like, met, we joked about this kind of thing. We like, made jokes. We're like, ha ha ha ha ha, as though all of this was pretend
and now it's not. And that is big and it's it's scary and there's a lot of responsibility and there's a lot of that sort of wanting to do right by everybody.
And so the the truth is, is that right now we don't realistically have two podcasts a week in US. And so rather than keep people wondering and being that friend who moved away and then never writes, we figured we would just kind of be upfront and say, hey, this is what's going on that we can talk about to the best of our ability when we can talk about it. You're going to be tired of hearing us talk.
But for now, like we just wanted to be transparent about that, because I think it's really easy to ascribe like that sense of like failure or ascribe a sense of shame to it. But it's like, no, like we're doing something really important to us and so we want you to be along for the ride with that it also. It also felt like when we were like pushing to like, get keep getting podcasts out as we were working on the thing, it felt like the podcast just ended up.
Because, like, I will not be. Like, my policy with the bug is I will not be in genuine on the podcast, you know, like if I'm feeling like absolute garbage, like that will be, you know, because I think that's part of the point of the podcast from the beginning is being honest about that kind of thing. And so I feel like when we were pushing, all I was talking about her feeling during podcast reporting was like, hey, I'm exhausted and tired and I whatever.
Like all I had to say was about how fucking my brain was fried, you know? And so hold on. I have to meet the microphone so I can blow my nose. Okay, I feel better. Hey. That saved me. Saved me a second post. All right, well, thank you. I shouldn't. Subject people to the monstrous way in which I blow my nose.
But. Also, I mean, I think just gotta be gentle with ourselves, lower our expectations in other areas, which I think is sort of the function of this whole spiel we've been giving you deer Raiders. Is not necessarily saying that we know we already have cut back on podcast, but it's more like we're accepting that that's just gonna be the way it is for a minute and setting those intentions not just for us, but also for all of you so you're not worried or angry or bored, Yeah.
And I think the first big part of the project is due in December. At the end of the year. And so then the real truth is that from there, it's a huge question mark. We don't know what 2024 is going to look like in a lot of ways, which is kind of weird. It's like weird to think about because it's like, I don't know what the process is. I don't know how often we're going to be, like waiting for. Emails. I don't know how often it's going to be like us doing stuff.
Like, you know what I mean? I just have no picture of what it's going to look like. And so I think part of this podcast, too, is going to become a little bit of that process and like a journal and diary of that process. What I'd love to do, and I think this is probably going to be the case if God, I can't even say. Well, every time I arrive at a I. Need to I'm sending that e-mail that I've been forgetting to send right now.
Well, we're I'm. Hoping that when the people that we are working with tell us it's OK, I'm hoping we can just talk about because the stuff that we're Jesus Christ, Oh my God, it's so ridiculous. I can't like every time I have a verb, nouns just cuz as we're working on this thing. Like, it's generative and it provokes interesting conversations between both me and Katie. Then like, it's stuff that I would love to talk about on the podcast. Like it's prime for.
Like, all right, let's talk about what we worked on today and and the questions we have about it and whatever. So I'm hoping once we can talk about the project, that's sort of what it'll be. Which it would be fucking incredible. I would have blown that so much. I don't know if that's what it can be, but I think it's, I think it's probably fine. But also Katie, another name for carpet. Floor plan. Floor plant, yeah. Nice. That's good floor, grass floor. Grass, that was.
What I was thinking was inside grass. That's good. I don't have one right now. Another name for a microphone. Ringy Boy. I rely on boy too much. I do. I do. Make loud a talk here. Talky here. Make your voice loud. Time. Hey, can people not hear you up talking to me? And then they will. Guy. That's the stupidest fucking thing. Fine. Katie Another name for a speaker? Sound hole. Okay, you win. That was good. That was funny. Thanks. Sorry I was just trying.
I was just throwing injecting some levy. That's a fun game that you can play at home, dear listener. Yeah, Yup. Well, actually, you know what? We don't hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm just realizing we can talk about some of the stuff that we've been working on. We just can't say, like, certain stuff about it, but we can still say like, you know what I've been thinking about lately? Yeah, you. Yeah. Like we can do that. You know what I mean? What have?
You been thinking about lately? What I've been thinking about lately, What have? You been thinking about I've? Been thinking about lately what I've been going default behavior. So like you got yourself a system. Well actually, well, I've been thinking about a lot of things lately. I'll try, I'll see if they're probably all going to mix into one big thing. But why? I was thinking about the point to let me let me table that first full thing is that you don't need to have a system in
order to do something. Systems are great. Systems help. Systems awful will the longevity of you doing something, but it's not absolutely necessary. Because. Oh God, it's going to be hard without, you know, talking about the thing just because with the amount that I, you know, we talk and think about systems, you know, strategies for getting things done, essentially strategies, methods and techniques for getting things done. Essentially. I never want to seem like we're saying they're.
Necessary their requirements. Like you shouldn't wait to develop a system for doing your laundry to do your laundry like you got to ham fist it and then you'll really appreciate your system once you have one because you won't be hand fisting anymore but that. But then default behavior is what I call when a system breaks down.
So like you know you do your laundry every you know Monday or something like that except one Monday you don't and then it piles up and then everything gets fucked and the system implodes. Like what is your default behavior then? For me it's. Not do the laundry. Yeah, not. Do the laundry until I have an emergency on my hands and then just dedicating a whole day to trying to get it through.
And so with default behavior. I keep thinking our default behavior is usually at least gets the job done. And I think systems can be built or more easily built through manipulating our default behavior than designing entirely new behavior. So I've been trying to recognize that in my own life lately. Where like. When I'm dissatisfied with, you know some way that I am, you know, like, oh, like my pliers, for example.
When I'm in the shop and I'm doing stuff, every time I put my pliers down, it's like, fuck, I I've been then spend at least another 10 seconds looking for them the next time I need them. But I did notice, so I, you know, I'm just getting mad at myself. I was like, okay default behavior here. Let's let's Jeff Goldblum a little bit. Let's study my own behavior here. What? Is there a place that I keep finding them when I do find them? Turns out, yes.
Katie on my left, which is weird because I'm right-handed. So you'd think I'd be using the pliers and I would put them down on my right, but they're usually on the left side of my desk because I'll be using them. And then I'll put them into my left hand in order to hold the work piece in my right, but still hold the pliers and then realize that I don't need the pliers anymore and set them down on my left. So that is now where my little plier storage guys are.
Look at you, you know. So rather than be like, oh, I'm. Such a fucking. Dumb shit, I should have. Fuck it. Well, I mean I did plenty of that, but try to work around your your already behavior rather than trying to design like the pie in the sky. If I were a person who was amazing, you know, like what is the ideal way of doing it. That's why I. Just put a Finder tag on the measuring tape, cuz I realized I was never gonna oh. Did you? I did nice. I.
Realized it was. Now we're gonna consistently put it. Down in the same spot ever. Even if I like, made it cuz I tried different things. I like made like a little area. I was like, I'm always gonna put it here. That didn't work. And then I was like, OK, I want to put it over here. That didn't work. And finally I was just like, you wanna fuck here? I was just gonna put it where I want to put it and then I'll just find it every time and that's fine. Like that works.
It's maybe not the most like time, you know, cuz they gotta walk over the little button, but like whatever. Yeah. You know, no, that's solid, I mean. It's a. It's a Serenity Prayer type thing. Yeah, Serenity prayer type thing. What does that even? What does that even mean? Here? Why are you bringing up that? What's that? No, it's the the serenity prayer is, you know, God grant me the strength to accept the things or the God. What is it?
Yeah, the serenity. It's God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things that I can and the wisdom to tell the difference. I'm not a religious man, but I just, I love those, those those concepts. Because I think, yeah, life is about figuring out what things you can change and what things you can't. Because trying to change something you can't is a waste of time. And thinking you can't change something that you can is also a
waste of time and effort. And so I think when we're like analyzing our own behavior and trying to figure out solutions for our daily life, I think it's important to keep that in mind because we can change, you know, little parts about our behavior. Like, I don't care how bad your executive dysfunction is, you can still, like, you know, take the trash out once a week so it doesn't, you know. Eventually you will take the
trash out. We can alter our behavior, you know, in slight ways, our default behavior in slight ways. But ultimately, like our nature, the fact that we are people who struggle with remembering to do basic shit and whatnot, that's almost certainly not going to change, the sign says. That's not going to change. You are always going to struggle with that kind of stuff. You can get better at dealing with the fact that you're naturally doing that stuff until so so far to the point where like.
Some people think they sort of grow out of their ADHD because they develop such good solutions, which is great. But accepting that, like, certain core things about us are always going to be things that we're needing to deal with. And not being mad at ourselves or not being that other thing, that other version of ourselves that can put the measuring tape in exactly the same spot at the same time and going okay, I'm not going to be that person. So given that, what is a
solution? Pop A tag on it. I think that's a fucking great solution. Groups, do you? Want to know something that really grinds my gears? Oh. Yeah, shout to Family Guy 2003. What you got is the idea that that is a bad thing because like, I feel. Sorry, that was a bad thing. That what you just talked about, that idea of like, by nature, like I'm a disorganized person, you know, whatever, you know. And so it's like, I think a lot of people would hear that and they go, oh, well, that's so
like fatalistic. That's just no matter what you do, you cannot change. And I think like, that is something that I spent so much time worried about. And like, what is the word that I want dealing with of that idea of like, I am an inherently messy person, right? And if you look it, it's sort of like breaking that idea down, like, OK, what is a messy person? Like you know why am I messy? And so it's like okay.
I have like the organization component, I have the impulsivity component, I have the executive function component. Like there's different reasons that a person becomes or like is messy right. And so like I think about the the coffee table. So dear listeners I have like this like coffee table tray where it consistently all the time gets covered in bullshit. I don't know how it happens. I mean, I do is that we put stuff on it. And so I decided that I was like
a fun experiment. I was going to like do my best to keep that coffee tray like clear because I just like it better. Like the aesthetic of it being clear is like pleasant to me. But what I realized is that, and I and I have been doing that, like I have genuinely been working to do that. But that is a manual thing.
That is, every single day I walk out of my bedroom and I go right and I like, take off the dishes or like I put away the stuff or like Eric comes over and clears off his microscope and bowl of pond scum. Real thing. That's a real thing. I'd be like, Eric, please clean up your blood and pond scum that you left on the living room tray. I have. A microscope. But, like, but it was that idea, right? And so, like, I spent so much time being like, Oh well, I shouldn't have to do that.
I shouldn't have to remind myself. I shouldn't have to like, like, it should just come naturally. And the truth is, like, it's never gonna, It's never gonna. And like, I'm having a hard time articulating exactly what I'm trying to say. But, like, I remember being a kid and, like, my parents criticizing me for being messy. And they would always give me that. Like, well, it's just so easy. Or why don't you just try
harder? And it's like, well, because I don't know where to put the measuring tape. And the measuring tape always gets put in a different like, because that's how my brain works. And so, like, for me, organization, cleanliness, or like, at least not having like a whole foxtonic clutter around my house. All of that comes from, like, the manual decision to every single day be like, OKI got to clear off the coffee table tray again.
And like, that sucks because I wish it was a little bit more like natural, but it's not. And so that's just, that's what I get, you know? Yeah. The things I cannot change, yeah. I think it's. Does that make sense? Yeah. I think it's like a being a realist but also acknowledging your agency, cuz I think like I have a hard one. No, I think this is.
Also, one of those things that people can only ever answer about themselves, but I think we can always change what we do, but we can't change who we are, what is who we are versus just something that we do. I think that's the game ultimately, that's that's the whole fucking thing. Is figuring out is this something that I'm doing that I can change or is this something that I am that I can't. Well I think like systems play into a lot of that.
Like I've I as I've been thinking about systems I've been sort of thinking genuinely thinking about like how. The existence of of like a really good system often times sort of like smooth that discrepancy and like bridges that gap. So like for me it was like like the junk drawers really good example. Like I finally caved and I got little individual compartmenty
things and the junk drawer I'll. Say frankly, you know, but like, I had to like take the time to go, OK, I need to actually like make that system happen and instead of just having the jump drawer and also I needed 2 jump drawers and that's fine, I'm okay with that, you know what I mean? But yeah. I don't know, just that idea of like, I don't know where I was going with that, but systems I'm really finding like systems are so powerful. Oh, I know a thing. I know a thing that I was
trying. I was thinking about how to think about Casey Davis said something fascinating on a podcast the other day where she was talking about like, laundry. And how laundry exists in like, a literal cycle of, like, you have dirty laundry that is like being washed in the washer. You have dry laundry, clean laundry in the dryer, then you have clean laundry that's out of the dryer. Then you have, like, laundry that is, like folded and hung up. Then you have laundry that is
not. Then you have laundry that's like, Nah, you wore it once, but you could probably wear it again. Then you have, like, dirty laundry into that that. So it becomes like this cycle. And so, like, there's probably realistically never going to be a moment where, like, all of those cycles line up inside of your household. And, like, so there's probably always going to be like, a little bit of dirty laundry. There's always probably going to be like, a chair that has like,
a shirt on it or something. And that. Like, like, I, because I've been watching a lot of home organization shows, right? And the thing that always fucking bothers me so goddamn much about all those fucking shows, I don't know why I'm so mad about this, but I am, is like, they do the whole closet right? And they're like, OK, here's your system. But, like, they have just enough hangers for the stuff that's in the closet, and they have just enough boxes for the stuff.
And I always go, what about the the stuff? What about the lot, the stuff in the dryer? What about the stuff on the chair? What about the stuff that you forgot that's like in the trunk of your car, which is probably not a problem that a lot of people have, but I do. And so like that idea of like chores like that or like tasks like that existing on a cycle was like because I feel like I can't clean up my closet unless I have every piece of laundry that I own clean and ready to
hang up on the bed. But if you adjust that mentality to think about it as being on a cycle, then what you're actually dealing with is the clothes that are in that portion of the cycle right now as you're dealing with it. And that's all you have to worry about. And then the next time that cycle comes around, you know, OK, so the laundry needs to get folded. That's when you do the, the goodwill sort. That's when you do whatever. Yeah, I think that's smart.
Yeah, it's. I'm trying to think of a better analogy, but it's sort of like a 24 hour kitchen. Yeah, like how do you clean a 24 hour kitchen? It's never closed all the way. Literally never thought well. You close sections of it. It's that way Waffle House is always disgusting. Well, yes. Yes. But you clean sections of it at a time. So like, at no point is the entire restaurant 100% clean because there's always stuff happening. But it all gets clean. It all gets. I mean hopefully.
So yeah, I feel like a lot of times, yeah, I avoid tasks because I know I'm not gonna get 100% of my clothes cleaned or I'm not gonna like, that's so like for me, that's like a huge stopper for me is like that. Yeah, I. Mean, I think. It's an all or nothing thinking. Yeah, it definitely is. But also like, I'm also, this is completely tangential, but it's a podcast about ADHD, so fuck you. I don't know like what to do with a lot of my clothes right now because I've gained so much
weight. And so it's like I don't know if I should just like give everything away or like, I just don't know. I don't know what to do with it. And so, like my closet has remained in this like weird like stasis pod for like 3 months while like I'm sorting out the like, doctor's office stuff and trying to figure out like what's
going to happen with my body. And like, it's like annoying because I'm like I I've been wearing the same like 4 outfits because they're the only office I have that fit, which is like fun. But that is like, OK, well I have these like 4. Should I put them in like a section? Should I just like move everything in my closet like over? So I have, like, I don't know what to do about that. Cuz like that's not like a thing that, like, they talk about on
home organization shows. There's never like a what to do if you, like, have thyroid issues and you gain 80 pounds, like, what should you do about that? Like, I don't know. Yeah. What if? What happens if like? You decide that you actually aren't in love with The Color Purple anymore. I mean, you go through a phase ends. It was a great movie. The color? Shit. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah, I think. The home organization show things.
I think what they really miss is that is the, well, not what they miss, but like if they were to organize a person with Adhd's house, which is like statistically almost certainly have they do all the time. And then I always just wonder what happens after, right? Is that they don't. Exist in the same like phasic way that people with a DHD do, where it's like, yeah, I I wear these, you know, I wore black undershirts every day for eight years.
And no, I don't like or like if you organize my little hobby craft shop room, like if they organize that, so it's like, hey, you like making, you know, puppets. So it's like we made your puppet workshop. It's like we I like making puppets now, but in like 2. Weeks I'm going to be into making banjos, you know? And there's, I feel like that modular element of it, of like this place, this doesn't need to facilitate a certain type like
one behavior. It's gonna need to sort of feel so that a certain type of behavior and a certain type of organization or certain type of stuff with which ADHD like just is liable to change all the time for no fucking reason. Which, you know, we just gotta make your systems more forgiving. Yeah. Resilient. Yeah, I just gotta figure out how to do that. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, right now we're. Working on teaching other people to do.
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We didn't do the whole thing. It feels like Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor during Co where we ended the show and now we're doing the whole show again. That's a really funny joke for like 5 people, I bet. It is. I'll swing it to you later.
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