Croatoan - 02x09
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 9 of Supernatural: Croatoan. They discuss Dean’s rapid decline in mental health, and the origin of Croatoan lore.
Jul 16, 2021•47 min•Season 2Ep. 9
Carrying Wayward: A Supernatural Podcast
Friends and co-hosts Drew Shulman and Marie Vigouroux explore TV show Supernatural. With a focus on character narrative, growth and relationships, they offer a critique of the show’s lore, production and writing decisions. Whether you are a long-time fan or a newcomer, join Drew and Marie weekly as they parse through 15 seasons of Sam, Dean, and, of course, pie.
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Episodes
Crossroads Blues - 02x08
On Tuesday, August 3 @ 8PM EDT, join us as we watch Tall Tales on Zoom. We are SO excited and can't wait to see you there! We’ll stay and chat for a little bit after the episode! Register now: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 9 of Supernatural: Croatoan. They discuss Dean’s rapid decline in mental health, and the origin of Croatoan lore. Sources: https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/whatishiv.html https://www.avert.org/professionals/history-...
Jul 09, 2021•51 min•Season 2Ep. 8
The Usual Suspects - 02x07
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 7 of Supernatural: The Usual Suspects. They discuss Sam’s amazing(ly alarming?) adaptation skills, and the narrative importance of pop culture references on Supernatural.
Jul 02, 2021•37 min•Season 2Ep. 7
No Exit - 02x06
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 6 of Supernatural: No Exit. They discuss Dean inheriting John’s legacy, and community fails that allow for casual misogyny to be included in the show. Note: In this episode, Marie uses a TikTok created by TikTok user jjwaywatch (https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMdfWXwPx/) as a reference to discuss particularities of network TV in the voicemail segment of the episode.
Jun 25, 2021•49 min•Season 2Ep. 6
Simon Said - 02x05
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 5 of Supernatural: Simon Said. They discuss the parallels and differences between Andy & Ansem and Sam & Dean, and the implications of a throw-away line about roofies.
Jun 18, 2021•48 min•Season 2Ep. 5
Pride Special - 2021
In this special minisode, Drew and Marie discuss what Pride means to them.
Jun 14, 2021•10 min
Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things - 02x04
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 4 of Supernatural: Children Shouldn’t Play With Dead Things. They discuss the different ways that Sam and Dean are coping with their compounding grief, and the layers of storytelling and messaging.
Jun 11, 2021•55 min•Season 2Ep. 4
Bloodlust - 02x03
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 3 of Supernatural: Bloodlust. They discuss Sam and Dean’s different outlooks on what makes a monster, Dean’s processing of his internalized homophobia, and the problematic ways Gordon’s character is presented.
Jun 04, 2021•53 min•Season 2Ep. 3
Everybody Loves a Clown - 02x02
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 2 of Supernatural: Everybody Loves a Clown. They discuss found family, the different ways Sam and Dean are approaching and processing their grief, and wonder about the true nature of the monster of the week.
May 28, 2021•55 min•Season 2Ep. 2
In My Time of Dying - 02x01
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 2, Episode 1 of Supernatural: In My Time Of Dying. They discuss the fall out of the Season 1 finale cliffhanger, John’s relationship to truth, and the evolution of reaper lore on the show.
May 21, 2021•54 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Season 2 Pre-Game
Season 2 Pre-Game In this short episode, Drew and Marie dip their toes into Season 2. They discuss the little changes and adjustments they’ll be making in Season 2, and their personal resolutions.
May 20, 2021•9 min
Season 1 Recap - Live!
In this episode, Drew and Marie are joined by listeners of the podcast from all around the world as they recap the first season of Supernatural. Recorded live on Zoom, they discuss family as the main theme of the season, and explore what family means to Sam and Dean, and how that meaning shifts through the season. Check out the recording on our YouTube channel: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward
Apr 30, 2021•1 hr
Devil’s Trap - 01x22
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 22 of Supernatural: Devil’s Trap. In this season finale episode, they discuss Sam and Dean’s ongoing trauma, and the crystallizing of the show’s demon lore.
Apr 23, 2021•51 min•Season 1Ep. 22
Salvation - 01x21
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 21 of Supernatural: Salvation. They discuss the rising stakes of the hunt for the demon that killed Mary, and the dynamics between John, Sam, and Dean. . Join us for our Season 1 Recap live show! Register here: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward
Apr 16, 2021•44 min•Season 1Ep. 21
Dead Man’s Blood - 01x20
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 20 of Supernatural: Dead Man’s Blood. In this now infamous episode, they discuss the old and new dynamics between John, Sam, and Dean, and vampire lore. Join us for our Season 1 Recap live show! Register here: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward
Apr 09, 2021•54 min•Season 1Ep. 20
Provenance - 01x19
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 19 of Supernatural: Provenance. They discuss Sam’s approach to romantic and sexual relationships, and respond to a moving voicemail from a listener. Join us for our Season 1 Recap live show! Register here: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward
Apr 02, 2021•49 min•Season 1Ep. 19
April Fool’s Special - 2021
In this special episode, Rachel, Drew and Marie release their first blooper reel. Join us for our Season 1 Recap live show! Register here: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward
Apr 01, 2021•8 min
Something Wicked - 01x18
In this episode, Drew and Marie are joined by licensed social worker Carol Ferrie as they dive into Season 1, Episode 18 of Supernatural: Something Wicked. They discuss intergenerational trauma in the context of John, Sam, and Dean. Join us for our Season 1 Recap live show! Register here: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward Carol’s reading list: DeAngelis, T. (2019, February). The legacy of trauma: An emerging line of research is exploring how historical and cultural traumas affect survivors’ chil...
Mar 26, 2021•55 min•Season 1Ep. 18
Hell House - 01x17
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 17 of Supernatural: Hell House. They discuss the role of pranks in the brothers’ relationship and the different modern interpretations of tulpas. Join us for our Season 1 Recap live show! Register here: https://linktr.ee/CarryingWayward
Mar 19, 2021•42 min•Season 1Ep. 17
Shadow - 01x16
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 16 of Supernatural: Shadow. They discuss John’s brief return to the boys’ life and Zoroastrianism.
Mar 12, 2021•52 min•Season 1Ep. 16
The Benders - 01x15
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 15 of Supernatural: The Benders. They discuss the balance of light and dark in humanity and the messaging surrounding Kathleen.
Mar 05, 2021•45 min•Season 1Ep. 15
Nightmare - 01x14
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 14 of Supernatural: Nightmare. They discuss Sam’s “chosen one” complex and the messaging behind Max taking his own life.
Feb 26, 2021•48 min•Season 1Ep. 14
Route 666 - 01x13
In this episode, Drew and Marie are joined by licensed social worker Carol Ferrie as they dive into Season 1, Episode 13 of Supernatural: Route 666. They discuss Dean’s approach to relationships and the layers of white supremacy presented in the episode. Here are Carol’s sources and suggested readings: Bronson, A., & Miller, B. (2019). A public apology to Siksika Nation at the Toronto Biennial of Art. Toronto, ON: Toronto Biennial of Art. Cannon, M. J., & Sunseri, L. (2019). Racism, colo...
Feb 19, 2021•56 min•Season 1Ep. 13
Faith - 01x12
In this episode, Drew and Marie are joined by producer Rachel Castellano as they dive into Season 1, Episode 12 of Supernatural: Faith. They discuss the narrative foreshadowing of this episode and the bisexual inspiration behind Dean’s character.
Feb 12, 2021•52 min•Season 1Ep. 12
Scarecrow - 01x11
In this mid-season episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 11 of Supernatural: Scarecrow. They discuss the brothers’ first big on-screen fight and the movies and novels that have influenced this episode.
Feb 05, 2021•49 min•Season 1Ep. 11
Asylum - 01x10
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 10 of Supernatural: Asylum. They discuss the brothers’ repressed childhood memories and flipping stereotypes in storytelling.
Jan 29, 2021•49 min•Season 1Ep. 10
Home - 01x09
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 9 of Supernatural: Home. They discuss the brothers’ tragic childhood, the wonder that is Missouri Mosely, and poltergeists.
Jan 22, 2021•52 min•Season 1Ep. 9
Extended Interview – Dr. Sara Prado
In this special episode, Drew and Marie share an extended version of their interview with entomologist Dr. Sara Prado. To find out more about Dr. Prado’s work, visit: https://saraguitiprado.com/
Jan 21, 2021•44 min•Ep. 2
Bugs - 01x08
In this episode, Drew and Marie are joined by entomologist Dr. Sara Prado as they dive into Season 1, Episode 8 of Supernatural: Bugs. They discuss the brothers’ relationship with their father and, you guessed it, bugs. To find out more about Dr. Prado’s work, visit: https://saraguitiprado.com
Jan 15, 2021•56 min•Season 1Ep. 8
Hook Man - 01x07
In this episode, Drew and Marie dive into Season 1, Episode 7 of Supernatural: Hook Man. They discuss the brothers’ repressed emotions and the pacing of the episode.
Jan 09, 2021•47 min•Season 1Ep. 7
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