Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape flower edibles. Strains. And everything in between. Hey, today we have a special guest. Oh, and it's white fire. Oh, I was thinking it was the bong. Or maybe my like home roasted coffee. Yeah, Brandon actually home roast all of his own coffee. Recently, yeah. Yeah, and the and the taste is
delicious. It's probably it's gonna be really difficult for you to have it from other places with you not being more judgmental on it. Oh, I've always been judgmental with other people's coffee, but now I feel it's gonna be a lot worse. Like Starbucks already before for me was like someone shitting in a cup and I'm. Like, yeah, I I I feel when I used to drink coffee all the time and I don't drink coffee anymore due to religious reasons. Just kidding. Yeah. No, I I don't drink coffee
anymore. I actually found out that I burned out my adrenal glands and the fact that I can even get enough energy to be able to go to the gym, boggle their minds. But after labs, they're like, well, maybe you corrected them. Because I have I I have abstained from using coffee almost for three years now, bro. Jesus. Yeah, it's easy. It's crazy. It's been that long. It's been a long time. I won't even put it to my lips because I know what happened to me, but it's because I abused it.
But the great thing about cannabis is that if you have too much, guess what happens? You go to sleep. Yeah, or you get really fucking anxious. Or paranoid. Or like all of those. I feel like, well, the very first time that my girlfriend had an edible with me. Oh yeah. I didn't make it, and it was, and it was by someone who I trusted. They're dosing until they. Just. Follow the dosing. No, it wasn't it. Was they? Misdosed, 'cause they asked me, They're like, hey, what is their
dose? And I I broke it down and I was like, oh, she is at like .2 of a gram of flour. So when you're dosing it out, like weighing out .2 is really simple to do. He just didn't do that. And he was like, Oh yeah, I just thought she was at a gram. So I gave her a gram and I was like, no, what? But he told me after when she was already panicking, freaking out all of that. Because before, when he was asking me dosing of edibles, I gave him her dose.
I was like, she's incredibly light tolerant. So start here. And I was so, so pissed at him that night. But you know these these mistakes do happen and and that's where the problem is with any any kind of home home brew I would say on that because it's it's sometimes you can be really on the money I mean you're very meticulous with it but before we go into that let's let's go into
what we're introducing today. So white fire comes from pure plan it is grown here in Utah. This is a fantastic I, I I got this strain, I picked it up from the dispo and dude I am blown away. I'm excited. Those nugs looked really tricone covered. They're really dark. They are no the plant itself. When you look at it, it's black. Oh dude, the leaves are black.
They're amazing. We. Were able to fortunate enough to go to one of the biggest grows here in Utah. Actually probably the biggest grow in Utah. I I don't know but I. Would guess it's probably the best, most developed grow because they do it exactly the way that we wanted to when I started that company when we invested in the grow years ago. But they have it on like a scale that I wanted to get to. Millions of dollars were put into this facility and you.
The cool thing is it's out in the middle of nowhere and you would miss it. You would think it was like some chicken farm, which is crazy 'cause. It used to be, yeah. You see a. Turkey farm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But with this fire. This fire. Yeah, white fire it it. What is the What's the lineage on this? I'm not sure. Hold on. Look, I actually thought I I found it. The lineage on OG is.
I mean, I could look it up. I just was so excited to start smoking it. It's made from fire, OG, and the white. Yeah. And it's the white and it's also known as Wi-Fi OG Wi-Fi white Fire or Wi-Fi Kush. It's a hybrid strain, but it's very sativa leaning. It's got a very, very clean smooth pole like you taste it. It's very mild. It's extremely mild. Oh. I took the other lighter. Don't be that one. Don't take the lighter. Nah, that's OK. It's OK. It's all good.
You ever have that friend who walks away with all your lighters and then you you go and you're like. That was me. Well, that's why you always have like a bowl of lighters, so there's, you know, endless to go around. That first hit was so mild, very smooth. Super smooth. I didn't get a lot of like lemonade or that could have flavors with it there. This is known for like fruit, citrusy kind of things with warm spicy tones. I didn't get a lot of mine. Mine was a very small hit.
Wow, that that actually made me cough. This is the first time this made me cough. I It's really good though. It's very heady, but it's not overwhelmingly heady. Now. Again, I haven't hit it with the Jet. I think we should just call this the Jet. Yeah, why the hell not? The jet, because it mean, one, it gets into you really fast. Two, it sounds like a jet engine. You know, it's really cool too. George Jetson. George Jetson. Let's call it the Jetson. The jetson the.
Jetson. No, it was nice. I just pictured like the Jetsons in my mind. And I was like, oh, who's the husband on that? Who's the dad? So he looked it up and he's like, beat George Jetson. George Jensen, Me, George Jetson. Exactly. Oh man. Like that in The Flintstones. His wife. Oh shit, I forgot the. His boy, Elroy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I haven't seen this, Elroy. Or was Elroy the dog, I thought? It was. The kid Anyways, see us going off on this so white fire like you said.
When you see the plant and you look it up, it's black. It's like the coolest thing. It's the coolest looking flower and leaves I've ever seen. Like for me it was cool. It's the Batman. Strange. It was like black. These flowers were almost black. You put it in this episode so you can see it, but it was amazing. I was blown away because at first I was like, wait, is that the lighting? No, it's literally just, well, the. Lights were so bright in there, these LED lights.
I mean the amount of money that they put in and you know, you could be a cultivar, listen to and going bitch, I got those too. But you know here in Utah, you the idea of really good flower being grown here is not something that would come to your mind. Not at all. And because it's typically been West Coast, it's typically been other places, not Utah. Utah's a desert. It's not known for, like, produce. Dude, there's never like, oh man, you guys got to try Utah's wives.
Like, what? What is that? Exactly. Polygamy Porter. Exactly what are we? I've tried polygamy. Have you? Have you? Yeah, exactly. You know, I actually got this shirt. It says polygamy Porter. And well, I just have one. It's a micro brew here in Utah. Wasatch Brew. If you're ever in Park City, go visit them. I it's been years since I've drank their beer, 'cause I don't. I don't use alcohol at all, not because of anything other than
religious reasons. I don't do it because it just doesn't do well with me. Yeah, I was like my health. Diabetes. It's just I feel like that it. It's everything. I think after the age of 35, you just feel like shit every time you drink, and it just gets more and more worse as you get older. I think my last beer was when I was 38. Damn. I'm I'm 45 now, so. It's been a minute.
It is been a minute, but I was there, I had some food with my dad and we got these shirts and I wanted to wear them here and go check them out. But Oh my God, like this strain is so relaxing. It's. Straight to my head. But the cool thing, it's like it's in my chest too, but it's light. It's like a weighted blanket type feel and the the terpenes in there. Oh, it's pretty good. It's got betacerophiline, limonene, beta, mirocene, humuline and lentil in this one. Like it.
It's got a pretty wide range of that. That's what I do like. I know every every strain in every state has terpenes. Every strain has cannabinoids. But the thing I do love is Utah's focus isn't always the highest potency. And that's the misnomer that people feel that if they get like you have. To get the highest THC, to get the best high or the most high.
Well, and usually it's that Stony person that's coming up there because all they want is just to be, but that's a. Bunch of shit it is. And if you understand it and how to have your experience, the highest THC doesn't even get you the most high. It's your terpenes. And the cannabinoid profile, like it's all of that entourage effect combined, like it's everything in that. And if you have more of an isolated one, all you're going to end up with is a more isolated effect.
And with that high THC, the high isolated effect, people more commonly get anxiety. Yeah, and it's the flavor profile. Sometimes I've had these high concentrate flowers. They taste like dog shit. They taste like hemp but they're so like and and when I say that it's like it's hemp is such a strong flavor in cannabis that it's overwhelming is overwhelming and it's not great. The only one like Stony Branch farms their blueberry waffle.
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Well and and Speaking of sweetness now this one has a very unique flavor profile. The the way it tastes depending on where it's coming from. Now when you have like The Jets in here, awesome, awesome name by the way, that was a great idea. We came up with that. But the when you're able to pull it out of a bong such as this, a high caliber, high quality bong, that's really going to filter out. You're not going to get the sharp notes that I got through my MJ Arsenal Mini bubbler.
That thing, that bubbler dude. I've never, I've never enjoyed a bubbler the way I've I've enjoyed that MJ Arsenal. We'll put that down there in the comments. It's super affordable. I really like bubblers. And I really like MJ Arsenal. Has really cheap, affordable pricing. Yeah, we need to talk to MJ Arsenal. We need to get more of their products on the show, showcase those.
It's really hard now. We just got to tell you guys, you already know if you've been a long time follower of the show and as of recently for the last several months we've got we we've been doing a lot of flour on the show and the reason why honestly it's because this thing is so awesome to pull from. When I do the MJ arsenal, the flavor you get from this and I can imagine from like a dry pipe vaporizer, I will tell you how my experience was on it. But the MJ arsenal?
Very sharp, slightly chemically, but it's sharp and sweet. Maybe that's what it is 'cause I I was trying to think about the notes that I'm getting in my mouth because it's it's maybe it's chemically but I was going to Plante like I was tasting almost, but not like the normal burning plant taste of, you know, hey this tastes like cannabis burning.
It's almost like maybe that's what it is, is that's on your end the chemically notes you're getting with the MJ and this is like Plante or a different note that I'm it's not. Bad. No, it's not bad at all. It's just distinct and the experience now it is it can be a slow onset. It's depending on how much you're going through. Now with a vaporizer, the vaporizer that I had, this strain lasted me and this is very strange. Something could have happened.
I could have had enough. I could have had more fats in my diet. I've noticed that the more fats I consume in a day when I use cannabis, the longer they experience. Yeah, 'cause it attaches to those fats. Right, the fat molecules. Stays there longer. That's why when people are trying, I'm like if you are an unfortunate person who lives in a state or has jobs that require you to be piss tested and then cannabis can be a disqualifier for you.
The reason why that one It sticks within your fat cells. It doesn't just leave, it slowly dissipates. Stretch your blood, your urine, everything, Anything you excrete out and it stays for up to 35, about the 30 or more. Days depending on your metabolism, how often and how
much you use like. If you have a slow metabolism, it's a lot more difficult and it's an it's just who you are and way you're built, you can't really, I mean, yeah, there are ways to hack the system and cheat the system, but somewhat, yeah, but. And there are some. I could imagine you would probably be able to pass a test without having to do anything within 15 days. 'Cause you have such. A low body fat. But I have, yeah. And I have a crazy high metabolism. I did a full tea tea break
yesterday. Full 24 hours. None. Whoa. Wow. From my microdose. So when I microdose psilocybin needed that reset, I really, really wanted to smoke. And I didn't do it. I'm like, Nope, I'm gonna give myself a break.
I'm gonna let that course through me through the entire day, and it wasn't as difficult as I thought it was going to be because an and that's another thing why I'm thinking about like addiction in cannabis and why cannabis is used for a lot of the people who are going through addiction recovery from alcohol, benzos, painkillers, etcetera. I don't know what else you'd really want to abuse. I mean like fucking. I had no idea.
Mucinex, right. Food. Yeah, I guess. But it just it it really like it. It made me realize that, yeah, I I do have a dependency on cannabis for certain reasons because I I'm at a dependency on maintaining a certain type of mood. Not that I can't hold that mood, but you know, I'm a pretty positive person. I'm pessimistic by nature, so I'm always looking for what's going to go wrong. But the other side is I'm always looking for that good in it. And so it's weird.
It's a hybrid, if you will. Well, it's it's the and this is kind of what I think, like there's the human nature that we naturally have that's like the reactive side. And then we have like our mind, our consciousness, everything else that when we are outside of our reactive natural state, we are happy. We're looking for the good, we're, you know, doing all of these things.
But then all of the shit, the stress, the aches, the that come into play, and we lose focus of trying to find the good because everything else comes in. And I feel like helping you maintain that mindset almost. Because it's not that you're addicted to having to have it, that you're like, man, I have to have this, no. But I want that state. Yeah, like I can't because you notice, hey, no, I'm stressed. I'm frustrated. I'm.
I'm like, these things are getting to me where maybe they shouldn't, or maybe they're getting to me more than I feel like they normally would. And if I can utilize a medication, a plant, something, meditation, whatever, to recenter you back. Sometimes life is hard and cannabis is the best option for that. Other times, maybe life is hard and cannabis isn't the best option for that. It just depends on the moment. I, you know, that's the one thing I would say about it.
And I'm more, yeah, I I I would be a pusher of this because I know what it feels like and just depending on how many different types of strains, like fire, white fire here, white fire is nice. This is a good strain for those who are just getting into cannabis too. It's light, but it's also very uplifting and that's a lot of the reports. It's uplifting, energetic, creative. Interesting. A little. Bit of dry mouth, not
uncontrollable dry mouth. This one's used a lot for like pain, inflammation and intestinal pain. So like IBS or Crohn's or anything like that? Dude, I had a gut but. Fire would be amazing. I don't know what it was. It was anxiety, stress, whatever. That's a big reason why I did my microdose and it was great. It it reset everything. Like I feel the neural pathways are just, you know, it's it's almost like it's almost like ketamine in a way.
Yeah, but longer lasting, not meaning that it didn't have the effect, but longer lasting as far as like the experience. Cause ketamine is so short. Yeah, but I'll tell you right now with fire, white fire, this thing is a lot like that feeling of coming out of that state. So this is like coming down off psilocybin or ketamine for me. Happy. Yep. Relaxed. Totally. Relaxed. And I don't feel anything too heavy anywhere. It's not real heavy in my back. It's not real heavy.
And 'cause, you know, different strains can sometimes really sit in one area, which just goes to talk about the complexity. Like, if anybody said, like, it's not for everybody, well, you just haven't tried enough, like, 'cause there's just so many different plants. And the cool thing is wherever you move to, you're going to get a different experience. Can you say that about anything else that's out there?
Right. I mean like tomatoes grown in New York and tomatoes grown in the Midwest and tomatoes grown on California, like at the end of the day, pretty similar. Like they're tomatoes. You don't get a lot of variation. Yeah, if you're really particular, kind of like cannabis, maybe if you were to eat tomatoes all the time and focus on the flavors and that you might be able to pick out the nuances and the differences between a West Coast, Central and East Coast.
It's it's almost like a you know one of my favorite strains Pineapple Express it I'm so I've never tried it. Flower here, I'm so. Excited. He just saw it from that. Grow, dude. There was. This big old bag. Giant bin. We'll post some videos of Jesse just like looking like a kid in a candy. Store just like pulling these apart open on there right? You guys doing the? Unboxing. And it was so cool. Like the coolest thing was like grabbing the leaf and then just just the strike homes.
Just on your finger. From the terpenes you could smell it and it was so good. My I'm. Making I just kept. Getting stuck, walking through like the leaves would stick to my jacket and stuff. I'm like, hey dude, yeah, I love. You too. My clothes. I had to put them out in my garage because they were so like, when I came in my house, my kids were like, what the fuck? Oh, that's fun. It was so strong. My wife is so tolerant with me. She's just like, that's OK. It smells like ham.
And sometimes she'd be like, did you smoke? And I'm like, no. And she's like, and it was my hat. Interesting. My hat was. Just from when we had smoked or something and dude. You imagine how many trichomes and and all sorts of shit just on our. On our clothes, Smoke our clothes, I mean. It was. It was amazing, but seeing this particular plant was really cool. The The funny thing too. It's supposed to be pungent, spicy, herbal, slightly spicy. Not really, I I wouldn't say.
You coughed a little bit with like the first hit. It was a big hit though, yes. But there's been no coughing residual. There's been nothing like that throughout the show and I was actually thinking about that and like I've had an entire cup of coffee and we've smoked. I don't have massively bad cottonmouth from this. No, it's a little there, but it's something you could sip on. I also had a whole cup of coffee with that. So yeah, it'll dry out a little bit more.
And yet I'm like, I still don't feel like it's terrible for that. So like this strain is not really bad. Dry. I don't feel dry eyes at all, Cottonmouth. I feel like half of it might be for my coffee. So the dry mouth is really non existent probably I would guess. And like I don't feel over euphoric, I don't feel overly high. There's no no haze. Zero haze. No haze.
Such a clear strain. Now one of the things is really cool about it is that I had a bowl and then maybe hour or two later and I had it with the vaporizer first long time. It lasted through almost three hours like a just to see how this this haze feels. Just slight. It's just there. You can feel like you. Feel it I. Don't feel hazy, but I I can feel that there's cannabis in my headspace. Basically, yeah. Cannabis is extremely unique.
Unique feel. Yeah, 'cause I've done pills and all sorts of shit and there's nothing quite like cannabis. But this one stayed with me. And then I had another, but I actually had like a bowl of my bubbler. OK. Yeah. Oh dude, I was like and it it was a combination of going to the gym that day and other factors. But truly dude, it put me down like some of the best sleep I had was on this. So if I double dosed it, I gave
it about an hour or so space. It gave me more of a feeling of relaxation and I was as stable to I crashed. I don't even remember falling asleep, and I've had a real tough time with sleep lately. Same. And I was just like, oh, this feels so nice. That's amazing. I just passed out. My wife was like scratching my back and I don't even remember. I don't remember laying. I had my shirt like over my my arms. She's like scratching your back, I. Fell asleep in like no blanket
and it's fucking cold. That's fine. I woke up like 3. I'm like, she's like, I'm not going to bother, I'm just leaving there. But yeah, this one is a great. And now you notice as this keeps coming on, it starts to hit, sit heavier in the eyes and it's really relaxing. It is a nice relaxing. I think this would be a good, I would say double bowl. Like check it out if you don't feel like you are too high, yeah. Like, but it's different though. Usually sativas just go up and up and up.
On the headaches, yeah. Yeah, I don't. I've never gotten a headache on this one. I haven't had, I've. Smoked a good amount. Sativa headaches in flower in a long time? No. But distes I will. Oh, I'll wait. Often with distes, but flower? I feel like it's very particular sativa strains and I have to be smoking a lot to get to that point with flowery typically 'cause it's just the experience is so much cleaner. Totally. Yeah. The the experience is extremely clean.
Yeah. Pure plan Utah strain. But if you. Have a white fire. Is a very popular strain, but it's a high percentage strain. Typical ranges are like 10 to $20 per gram. But we had a really great, I mean it it wasn't that expensive. It was really good. Check it out. Yeah, Give White fire a try. Patriot members we love. You. Thank you guys so much. And everyone who's following along. Yeah, and until next time.