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Write out something, even if you don't agree with us, please do it. Well, if you go back to because, like, you know, it was a really interesting discussion I had with somebody because they were talking about, you know, biblical text and how it was really hard for them to remember. And they wrote it 500 years down. But you have to remember, too, that they were a society just like the Native Americans were. And they did. They repeated the exact same
stories over and over and over. And it went through lineage. And so they remember it to AT there were monks that knew the Bible front and back. They're Muslims that know their Quran. From study it back from. But it The thing is, is where did it come from? It wasn't written down right away because. They still had to study it. They didn't learn. It no, no, no, they didn't study anything because most of them didn't learn from reading, reading and.
Writing about now or then then. Oh no, I thought you're talking about. Now, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking about then because we were talking about ancient text and and I was like, you know, we, we can't say the. Stories because only a few people could read and write right? Because it was only left for what? All they had was a story. And they would repeat it all the time.
Your telephone. Game, Yeah. But but not even then, because it's not even telephone, because if it's repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over the exact same way, if you talk to Jews, they're able to go through everything in their verbatim you. Telling the same story Do you and your wife tell the same story? Identical. No, I understand where you're going. I understand where you're going from. But if if look in.
Technical it's similar. No, it's going to be pretty spot on back then. No, we have, we have more distractions in our life to be able to to make it harder. If you think about, they had better memory than we did. Look at the school system in the United States when it started, it wasn't for manufacturing. It was just to get an education. Yeah. Yeah. And it was shorter. The kids were smarter. They wrote better. They they were more. Intelligent. You read the writings from back
in 1800s and stuff. Yeah, they're eloquent, they're well spoken and they are actually like coherent thoughts. You look at writings from 20 years ago and you're like, what the fuck is this person? Well. Even today, you know, it was like that comedian, he's like, you know, you take a letter from a Civil War kid to 14 years old to your modern day soldier. The modern day soldiers is like dead Marie. It is hot as fuck out here
because I'm in the dessert. Yeah, it's hard to fight these sand monkeys when your balls are stuck to your legs. And that's that's like what we are now. We are a dumbed down version. I still think, and that's what I'm saying is not that the stories are identical, but just the same as telephone or your story is slightly different, of course that it's the same as every religion. You look and you're like, OK, there's a lot of similarities.
These stories are similar, but there's like, just like. But The funny thing is, is that we have no idea what happened back then. Like, that's just my thought and idea. But nowadays we rely upon experts. And The funny thing is that the experts are the little Japanese guy or Neil deGrasse Tyson. They're theoretical scientists. They've never fucking applied any of this. They're really good at memorizing shit. And they're advanced in math.
That's it. And they always say, well math is the ultimate language but I I don't know what. That means maybe, but is that just because it's the only thing that's universal, that we know? Right. And and their idea is to be able to go OK, well. That it can be found and utilized in everything. Maybe that's why. Well, that's what they. Think and across every language people utilize some type of math. Well, they, I mean, that's why they recently discovered the, Sumerian said.
Had been. We're really good at trigonometry. We're really good at trigonometry even back then. And they found. Well, I'm, I'm very curious what all of their math and science and everything that they knew, because even like we've talked about in in many theorists in that talk about or they go out and see these ancient civilizations who have replications and buildings and things that we can't create things they've done with stone. We have no idea. It's like, what were they utilizing?
What methods? What math? What science? What? Oh. My God, what machinery? What alchemy did they understand that we don't? What? Yeah. What machinery or technology do they utilize that we don't have? Right. I mean, it's like looking at the pyramids and hearing from all those people who've been there, studied it so much. Like it's built like a power plant where it could be able to provide wireless energy to those
individuals. Because the fact is you don't have burn marks in there from torches. Like, and if you see in the spaces, they're fucking perfect all the way up, right? And, and you look at some of these other, other things, like what's that one in India? It's like fucking carved right out of the mountainside. And giant beautiful palace. Yeah, but it's got like elephants and shit like that. My. Friends been to it, I'm not sure what it is are. You kidding? Because they don't let anybody
go there anymore. So he, he's a videographer and that and he yeah, yeah. And he does drone shots and that all over the world. And I remember him taking like videos and stuff. It was insane. But these things are gorgeous, incredible works. And you're like, how is this done? Because the crap that we're now in is like Tricky Cutter shitty square boxes. What I mean, that's another thing too. No detail, no creation, no like creative design put into it for the most part.
Just horrible. I mean, when you look at all of these ancient civilizations and what they did like this one, did you see all these carvings? I'll take some screenshots and put them up on the wall on the screen right now. But dude, that's done out of out of a fucking mountainside. Here's a crazy thing. There's this giant palace there, and the reason why they close it down to the public is because people kept trying to fucking take rock out of it.
Like, I don't understand that. Destroying something so you can have a piece of it. So I don't understand the destroying thing, but I was going to. It's this weird little side tangent because grandpa passed and when he passed, I got a lot of his rocks from all over. Well, he had a stone from Auschwitz. He had a stone from the Great Wall of China. He had a stone from like the Berlin Wall. He has stones from all of these. I guess I have these stones from
all of these places. Now, are they stones that were broken off? No, they're not that type of some person to destroy something. But is it a piece of stone that was on the ground broken already, you know, And how many people see that? And it's just, well, that's that's OK. I'll take it. Yeah. And that happens all the time. And it sucks to see people destroying these things. Like, I was blown away. All the Italian videos that I see, you see, like, Vincey.
No, not Vincey, you see. Oh my gosh. I I have no idea. I've never been to Italy. So that's OK. The the one main city, and I can't think of what it's called right now, but it has all of the waterways. The Italian Job was done in there. Venice. Venice. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So Venice I. Haven't been to Italy though. OK, so I've only been to Italy once. No, no, I thought it was really cool. No, I mean I, I know. You've travelled all over with military and done all of that.
No, no. But I didn't get to go to that side that that was always really fast because it's their ancient civilizations are so cool over there. Oh yeah, like I walked through the catacombs in France. That was insane. Just miles of like skeleton bones. The walls, like everything, is just built up of. Skeletons. But then so Italy, I went to Venice and we're walking around Venice and all the videos, all the pictures you always see of Venice are gorgeous. The buildings are clean, they
look amazing. We went out there and we're walking all these beautiful bridges that cross covered in graffiti. Yep. Just ruin and I'm like these beautiful ancient historic buildings are just treated like shit by people nowadays. And it's like, I was glad that I got to go and see Notre Dame before it actually burned because now it's it's never going to be the same no matter what they build back will not be the original Notre Dame. Nope. The same artwork, the same stuff.
It's just not there. Well, and you know, that's the thing, like even though these these these structures are amazing, when you think of it compared to like Sacsayhuaman in South America, like I think it's in Peru and or no, it could be anywhere, somewhere else. I know them Peru is Machu Picchu. And when you talk about that, like the graffiti back then to those amazing monuments, was that whoever else came after, because the Mayans discovered
it, it was already built. It was already there. And if you look at these monolithic brocks where they call it cyclopean masonry because the way they fit together, there's no mortar, and it just sits on top of each other at these perfect angles. And you can't even slide a needle in there. Like it's so perfect. It's like Sacsayhuaman. They have these like crazy, like they try to say like, oh, they use chisels and hammers.
Mother fucker. You couldn't get that shit done with the laser that well, you could do with the laser these days. But The thing is they don't, they don't find like that Indian plow palace I, I was talking about and again, I'll, I'll find the picture and we'll put it up at during that time. It's absolutely carved out of the side of a mountain. It has walkways, intricate carvings all over this entire thing. They don't know where the rock would like 'cause they usually
have a dump site. Yeah. And there's no, there's no excavation site. There's no like removal. And it was tons and tons. And they're like to move that would take forever and it would be massive. So there's no excavation. And they're like, how do they create these things? How do they do this without having that? It doesn't make sense in the world that we exist in, in reality that we know. That's why like man, like and, and this is a high thoughts video, guys.
The thing I think about is that we've done this all before and I'm talking like stuff like this, but just in a different way. Because when they, you know, as a child, I tried to rot my mind around dinosaur bones. The concept. No, no, no, no how they got so deep. So the idea was at least what was taught to me in school during that time, and I am old or, but it was pretty much that it just sunk down over time because of rain and all that other stuff.
And it eventually just seeped into the ground. But then you take something like this, like here's just the idea that you take a quarter and you put it into the sand on the shoreline and the waves come over. What happens? It goes down and another wave comes over and it goes further down and it just keeps going down because of the water. I truly believe that the Well, as far as the evidence, that has been what? We've seen brought. Forward is that the younger
driest period actually happened. Well, there's been massive shifts. Flooded the planet and then it went back down because it was such a massive amount. There's been multiple times Even so you got up to the Utah Natural History Museum and they have just a place that shows here's the water levels that have been over the different periods and the areas in even just Utah alone have been flooded, not flooded, flooded, not flooded, flooded, not flooded, that it's been a mass multiple times.
And so you think about that because when you were saying that, I'm like, yeah, I don't understand unless there's vibrations, you think about that. If you said something on the ground, something big on a flat surface or on sand, on dirt, on whatever, if it vibrates, is it going to go up or down, down? And but how many vibrations does it have to do? And is it constant? Like in order for that to fluctuate and get down to that level versus the concept of water, like you said?
And it goes back to even like, like, I'm not religious, but biblical times and the story of the great floods or that. And those stories have been told across multiple things. Yeah. And it. Was. The the thing that kind of made me think more about that was the Sphinx cat in Egypt. Yeah. Because for the longest time they thought the IT was wind erosion across the back until they realized it was water. Yeah.
Because. Robert Schoch had said that because he went there as a as a. But they're like the last time that happened was 10/12 thousand years ago. So would you imagine? 1012 thousand years ago, we had enough water to do that. And so is that saying, like how many times has that happened? How many cycles? Because, well, most of what we live in is just cyclical.
Exactly. And that's something that I think is it's not you can't get it down to an exact science, but knowing that this planet goes through cycles and purges and there's no rhyme or reason. You can't control the flow of water because you have a machine. The oceans move where they move based on heat and cold and how does that shit? Work. You know what I was thinking? So I I went up. You remember when we had that crazy wind storm like a week ago? Two weeks ago?
Oh yeah, I went up and actually rode the Alpine Loop like the day after. Oh yeah, and your mom's scooter. Yeah, took my kid because they were heading back to Texas and I was like, you know, I don't have a motorcycle. This is an amazing ride. Let's go do it while you're here. And as I was riding, I saw so many trees and bushes and things that were blown over. And I was thinking about it and I was like, man, Mother Nature is the best, like survival of the fittest.
It wipes away the weak. It only keeps us strong. Whether it's plants, animals, people like it is the ultimate decider of just what happens. Fire cleans trees, it cleans land, allows for new stuff, new growth to come in because it's been what, overgrown with dead stuff for so long. And like, this is literally Mother Nature cleaning itself, taking care of itself, going, yeah, OK, this is how we do
shit. Well, when you look at there's certain places, if you go online, you can find like I found this place in Mexico where it's completely desolated. And all of these people, all they did well, I mean, there was no water, no nothing really. It was just like dried out and dead. And they brought in animals and grazing animals and they did a little bit of it there and they try to be able to find water, but did that thing within four or five years, completely transformed all green, all that
other stuff. So a lot of it, I'm not even saying like, you know, the when we have controlled like agriculture the way that we have, it's I think that has had a bigger impact on the planet than our cars. You think about it and like how much water control do we do? How much did the water just naturally flow everywhere and let things grow? Now we put it in rivers and channels. We put it in like.
All these pipes. Yeah, and all of our dams, Well, this tiny pond that all this water was dispersed in way more places. Well, no, it's not. We've got all of this water stored here and all of this water stored here. Not natural occurring lakes and that which we're probably all over the place now. We got man made ones that control our water, force it to stay in certain locations and and that's fine because it creates power in certain sources.
And right now, that's a source, that's a utility, that's a thing that we use all the time. Yeah, and in Utah, you know, The funny thing is we were known for our winters and lots of water. Yeah. And then we went through like a 10 year super drought. Crazy. Hardly any snow. But that's, again, you know, when you talk about cyclical, that has happened multiple times. Oh yeah. And you know. Same with global warming stuff.
It's been like the water raises and that, and I'm curious about that because I, I obviously don't, I don't ignore the fact that maybe like we probably play some factor in that, however. Oh yeah, no, I mean in the. In the overall. Environment. Yes. But like in the overall scheme, what is the percentage that we have affected the patterns and cycles that were already happening? Yeah, you know, and going, OK, did we speed it up? Maybe, but how much?
Because is at that point, we've seen that these happen, these cycles happen. So then it's like, OK, was it speed up before by something else, You know, is it something that just happens? Because as it gets through the stage and it starts getting further and further, well, obviously something's increasing. So either something drastically changes that kills that, or it continues until it gets bad enough that it dies.
Honestly, what I one of the big things that I introduced you to this years and years ago, I think it's like 5-6 years ago, I found that YouTube channel just adapt 2030. No, no, adapt 2030 was funny. Do you remember the episode I
totally remember talking about? Because I thought it was funny because they were showing volcanic activity underneath the Antarctic ice shelf and they saw these big holes appear and then climate activists and, you know, believers that our dirty cars are melting the ice he put in there. He like, what a bunch of ice holes. And I thought that was hilarious or sometime. And then I brought it over. We had your like fucking projector up there, right? That's how you watch TV, play
video games. And it was still pretty cool, dude. I love that. It's a great memory. But I showed you that. And then we got into it. And then I, I found Ben Davidson. With suspicious observers, right? Anything we're talking about, if we've got a YouTube link, we'll send it, we'll put it down below. But suspicious observers, Ben Davidson, he's not a weird alarmist. He's just like. He he in depth scientist who studies the sun and sunspots and solar arcs and everything around
that. I I I am more leaning towards that that the sun has more of effect on our planet than anything else. And he's even gone into it of like, it's been funny 'cause he's corrected NASA and NASA has actually put his stuff in because oh shit, we were wrong. You know what he was A lawyer. What? No. He was a lawyer and he started to learn about this and now he's on the level of scientists. Oh, he's brilliant. He doesn't have like APHD or anything like that, but he's brilliant and 1:00.
Of the wager, he knows more than some of those PhD and we see that and the fact that he's discredited NASA than some of their. The only thing like some of the stuff he's talked about, like the Adam and Eve story in that book. Yeah. And and they were saying like, oh, the CIA had classified it, but here's. The IT was on the banned list book for a long time. Yeah, try and remove it. But then it I I found another guy that actually went through it and that's actually wrong. You could buy it.
The only reason they they redacted certain pages. Yeah, they changed it. They pulled out some portions of it, but the. The guy Chan Thomas, he was also a little bit. He was pretty off his rocker. Now, I like a lot of his theories on how the Earth could have done that. What what he talked about is that there was a magnetic reversal and the magnetic reversal kicked off where? Yeah, Well, but but at that time, the idea was that. Oh, it was a polar shift reversal where the poles flip flip.
And it changes the world. The, the theory is it changes the world and all of this magma that's kind of underneath, just the below the surface. It would unlock the fucking continents and they would be able to move. Oh, I thought it was either the continents or the water. And they would. Be like one of those would move and flood most. A lot of ocean, well, if you think about it, the world, they I don't know how. Let's look that up. How fast is the Earth rotating in mph? I got you.
Yeah. Hey, Siri, how many mph is the Earth rotating? Approximately 1000 miles an hour. So if if we're spinning at 1000 miles an hour, and you're right and thank you for correcting me on that. If we're spinning at 1000 miles an hour. And the theory is that when that happens, that it's kind of going to stop everything. It's going to slow down the rotation of the Earth. Yeah, everything else, the clouds, the water, they're still moving at 1000 miles an hour. Yep.
So as soon as that happens, you slow it down just like slamming on the brakes of the car. And he only needs to slow down a little bit for this to happen. And it's been gradually slowing down. Also the sun if from when I was growing up and he was right. It was the weirdest thing when he said he goes look at the sun and tell me it's not different today than it was yesterday back in 20 years ago because. I I thought they said don't stare at the sun. A yellow sun. It was a yellow sun.
Now it's bright white. And the reason why is, and they've already seen this, it's degraded. I think it's at 40%. Interesting is the magnetosphere has degraded. Around the our earth or around. Around our Earth. So because of the rotate a huge 40 percent, 40% up to around now. 40% left or 40% degradation? Degradation. That's it's still a massive either way. Well, if you think about it too, because we just had six solar flares come off the sun not too long ago and.
Well, they have them all the. Time all the But they don't get to see them in Puerto Rico. It went all the way down to Puerto. Rico, we could see here in Utah we had the. The lights in the sky. Or Borealis all over. See, that's what it is, is when the solar flare hits are earths magnetosphere. It's like a force field, but the solar winds push over it and they bend and as those the radiation particles, all that other fun shit, right? I don't know.
I'm, I'm on a, I'm on a scientist, but they hit both poles because of how it comes out in these arcs like this and that protects us. And then it folds over. But as it gets smaller and smaller, it doesn't protect us. When in the mid 1800s, early 1800s, they had the Carrington event and that was a class 10 solar flare. And dude, miners woke up in the middle of the night because they
thought it was morning. It was like two or three AM and it was as bright as the day, and that was in the middle of the night and it was so strong that it fried those things. And the crazy thing was like the air was so charged with electricity that their Telegraph machines, which are unplugged, we're still able to communicate over to London. That's insane. Right. So it that's what like what Tesla was thinking about is creating that type of energy for everyone.
So it's endless. So everything in this room, in these cameras, they didn't have batteries. He just created them and they worked. They weren't plugged in and it just got power. Like, have you ever seen like late 1800s, early 1900s, like fucking inventions, like the World's Fair, crazy shit. You don't like that big? I was looking at video games
last night. Borderlands 3. OK, Yeah. I was looking at that and they had this, this car thing in there that's a giant wheel that goes around you and you do. That was back then. They had those. They had some of the craziest. So just a super imaginative shit. Oh, it's so interesting. And you think about that because how much stuff wasn't really created in our era back then. So it was interesting because it was all of this new creations
that didn't exist at all. I think that they need to be more of these inventors because you think about the Wright brothers. What were the Wright Brothers? That works when we're not in this industrial age where everyone's doing the shit we're doing. Because you're just doing it to make it better. Yes, and they all spend their time thinking, creating, doing, building, all of the like. It was the eloquent time. They were smart. They were well written, they
thought. How many of us actually sit back and allow ourselves to get bored and think? Dude, that's so funny you brought that up because this fucking thing, yeah. Oh, I'm bored. Well, let me pull out my phone. Oh, hey, I'm bored. Let me go play a game. Hey, I'm bored. I'm going to like go watch a show. There's always something that is, hey, there's something that
I need to be doing. We don't sit back often and allow ourselves to just be and think and get bored because I think that's when a lot, a lot of these ideas and theories and and things come in and that's when we have discussions because we're not. Well, if you're not worried about well, I'm bored. I need to go watch something. I need to do this, well, maybe I'm bored. I want to go have a discussion. My neighbour's out. I'm going to go talk with him. Yeah.
You know how many people had. It's a good. Point. Group discussions and that and how many of these things were truly discussed of like this shit is a problem, how do we solve this versus nowadays, how many of us sit back and go, we've got a lot of problems, we just don't know how to solve them, so I guess that'll be someone else's problem. That's a good point. I'm going to go back to scrolling. The. How many problems could we actually solve if we stop scrolling through TikTok
everyday? Well, how many problems would we not have? Exactly right. And like mental health problems, all of these other struggles from that. And it's like, OK, what, what better life could we live if we weren't stressed about that? You know what more creativity would we have? Yeah. We might not work as many nine to five jobs because it's like, well, I created this idea and this idea solved the problem. And that problem, well, when you solve problems, what does that do?
That brings you massive amounts of revenue, so you don't have to worry about working some stupid 9:00 to 5:00 because, well, you've solved a problem. It's the thing like, I mean, if you can create an yeah, you just don't, you just can't. And that's I've been doing that lately. I've been intentionally like, dude, I was going to the store. That's all I was doing and I'd had a really good strain. I was really deep in my thoughts and it was that mix of magic and love affair. Oh, OK, yeah.
And love magic or magic love. Magic. Love There you go, magic love. It was really introspective and I've been I've had this mental block for what I become very passionate about. And you know, I had a cool experiment working with a client. I've been doing marketing for a long time and sales for a long time, but I just, I wanted to do something different.
But this this kind of found me on accident and then I started to do well and then I worked with this company and we saw amazing success with their employees. Like they just did really well. And I'm like, you know, I want to go past that. And then I got involved with 12 Shapes with Kim Giles. And then like now I'm like certified as a coach underneath there. I'm on their website and all that stuff. Like to me that's cool because now I have an opportunity to be
able to help people. And one of the biggest things that she said, she goes, you know, you'd be great with couples and you really should be helping focus. She goes, I have so many couples that I am booked out for the next six months. Probably. And it's just so crazy, dude. I feel like, and I think we even talked about this once you reach like a certain financial status and that your focus isn't, hey, I'm stressed, I need to make this money, it's OK, what do I have going on in my life?
But you have to have. Yes, you have to have a perfect. Remember that cool video I showed you that guy where he's just like, you know what you do when you get a lot of money? You fucking take care of your family and you, you, you take you. You retire your parents. Do this shit, buy them a house. Yeah, do this. You take your friends on a trip and that, and then you give it away. Yeah, because why do you need this extra money, you billionaires? Like, what are you doing with this money?
Honestly, what are you doing with those billions of dollars? It just reminds me of Bennett, cause Bennett's goal was to hit $1,000,000, he gets to $1,000,000 and he's like now what? Yeah. It didn't feel any different to him, no. It was the same thing with one of the founders of Twitch. And when Twitch sold, I think it's owned by Microsoft, when Twitch sold, instantly he was like, I think he was a billionaire because of how much they sold it for.
And all the all the owners got that right. And imagine the employees there that had stock options like they were, they're fucking set, right. But he was like, it was really cool. Like I've got all of this money, all of this like perceived power and dude, he's just like 3 days. I, I felt bad. I didn't wasn't doing anything. How, how empty would it feel to be in this giant fucking house walking around? You got all the coolest shit marble.
Oh yeah, fucking just awesome. You've got cooking shit in your in your kitchen and it's hanging on the wall and you never use it because you got somebody else that prepares your meals. Right. You get to the point where you're not even driving your own car because it's you can do more by being able to pay attention to the things you need to do. And then you wake up on a Saturday. But why do you do that exactly? Because the money. It's perceived. Is the value, Yeah.
And so your moment is, well, I could do this, I could drive this car or I could make more money if I am doing this. Yeah. Because no one chooses that because it's well, I I'm choosing this choice to do this work all the time and have someone else do this because I'm happy. Most of those people you don't see and they're like fulfilled and and truly joyful on their
inside. They're the ones still struggling, having mental health issues, having like struggles with self worth and value of like what the fuck do I do? Or hey, I've hit this goal, but now I feel unachieved because and now I've hit it, so what's my next goal? I'm not there. What do I need to be at? Like how do I get there? And never feeling like you're enough then because you're always chasing another goal.
Well, if you think about it dude, like you know who I envy in ways are people that can create with their hands, OK, Create things and fix things and do things like that. How you do that shit all the time? I know, but I'm saying like, you know, what's really sad is there's a lot of inventions today to make our our lives, you know, easier. Yes, but they're not anything. They're not real. They're not tangible. We're all about convenience, but we're, you know.
But there's but when you know like what? Who does pottery now? People as hobbyists back then, it was not only like their livelihood, but they also were so good with it that it lasted for hundreds of years. Yeah, well, but that's how you had a masters and people would master these skills because. True definition of master. Yes. And it's like, OK, what mastery of skills do we have? Well, I know how to respond to emails. I know how to make calls and how
to do this. OK, but what skill do you have? Well, I know how to do, you know, and it's like going down your job resume. Well, I've got these OK, but like. What do you have like? And that's where like, honestly, like you've said this many times, Brandon's got a great habit. He his phone goes in another room at night and he lets it charge over there. I didn't always have that.
No, no. And, and I'm, I, I, I think about it every night because I got that fucking thing in my ear thinking that I need that and I don't need it. And I'm going to try it tonight. I'm going to try it tonight and put it like, just whatever. Yeah, right. And it. Yeah, I'm just going to leave it over there and I'm going to see how I do with it. I've been thinking about it like I don't read as much as I like
read, read, read words. I'm just listening to a book and yeah, we don't allow ourselves to get bored and we don't allow creativity. Like I said, like I'm, I'm now doing coaching. I didn't even think about couples. Yeah, I. Didn't think about it individuals, but Kim really pushed me. She's like she's like, hey, you got a gift here. You should use this. You can connect with people really quickly.
This is going to help. And I started thinking about that too and I'm like, you know what I'm you're you're my best friend. I talked to you all the time, every fucking day almost right. And if we don't, we're just like, we're just super busy that.
Day, Yeah. Like when I was going through my shit, like it was weird for you because you're like, fuck, he's not even talking to me. Yeah, but I didn't want to call you and bother you either because I knew that like everything was just could push you into a panic attack at that moment because life was like it was overwhelming. And that happens like that happens to so many of us. And the last couple years have felt that way honestly.
Like yesterday, two days ago, there was something I had to do and it was stupid. I literally had two emails I had to send. That was it. 2 emails and I woke up and I felt overwhelmed. Wow and. I was like fuck and I sat down and I took a couple of hits and I was like why am I feeling this way? It's not that much. It's literally like 2 emails that I have to get done. But it was just like the response that I hadn't figured out. I wasn't sure what to say. And I was like OK, it kept me up
the whole night before. I literally was like tossing and turning thinking about these fucking emails. And so I'm sitting there and I'm like, this is just the life that sometimes it doesn't always happen. Like that's not every day, but we have those days and it's horrible. So yesterday I sat down and I've just started recording for another podcast. Yeah, yeah. And that's been sitting in Spotify for like 2 years because my mental health wasn't OK and didn't really think I could do that.
And I recorded 4 episodes yesterday. Yeah, dude, I'm super proud of you because I know you've been talking about this for a while. And because it's a mental health podcast, I actually recorded two meditations as well. So I did 6 episodes yesterday. Good for you dude. In one day. And I was like, I actually felt really, really fucking accomplished with that.
And I was like, I don't normally do this, but it's because I've been thinking about it. And these like the guy that I send you videos on sometimes I yeah, Alex Harmozy and, and you're talking about it and you're like, man, he's just, he's like a go, go, go, go, go. And, and I was listening to one of his videos because he was like, Oh yeah, you know, I, we just made like 3 billion or like whatever it is. And now my next goal is like 10 or something.
I'm like, he's still chasing these things. His goal isn't but but his goal is not always the goal. He still has his goal, but his goal is the process and the work. And I was like, OK, so who am I? What do I do? OK, well, if if I'm podcaster, if I'm doing that, well, what do I need to do? What is a day-to-day look like in that? And I was like, well, that looks like this. And I started just trying to create my process of I don't need to be successful. I don't need to be this like I
don't need for you. I don't need happy. Because my problem was this show has been fantastic. We reached the number one cannabis podcast in three months. Yeah, we've held that. We've been in like top ranking all over the all over the world. We've held in like the top 100 and 5000 alternative help. And so I thought of like, what if this next show isn't that? What if this next show doesn't get to that? And I was like, who? Who cares? Dude, we didn't make this show for that reason.
No and. But I didn't think about that when I was starting this one. And my concern was like, what if it's not what people need? OK, well what if it's what I need? What if truly that is what I need, right? Now that's a good point because I think there's a lot of podcasters out there, people who want to start a podcast and they're putting it out there. It's a really good way for you to be able to work through things. Like I've started, I started recording on another one with 12 Shapes.
Yeah, 12 Shapes. And it's all about teaching about communication, relationships and dating and all these other things that can be able to be applied quickly and see results. But it's more of just it's giving it away. Like, hey, you could listen to this and learn some things. And The funny thing is it's like
we've been recording. I think I've got like eight or nine episodes in the tank and for some reason I just can't create the no, no, no. I mean, I looked at the time period and when it launches and stuff like that. Like we got a good idea and she's got a marketing team that's doing all this shit for us. But ultimately, like I was just like, yeah, you know, this is
cool, but. I've had so much stuff going on in my life that it's, I've started noticing like what is keeping me from being able to push forward and it's allowing myself to get distracted. And I need to put this away. I need to be able to be bored. I need to think. And it was awesome because that day, Oh my God. So ADHD, I'm going right back to where I left off like forever ago. So when I went to the store after I got high on magic love or. Love magic or I didn't. Love magics better.
I was walking in the store with no headphones. I haven't done that and I don't. It was really strange to me, but I was such in an elevated state that I could almost like put earmuffs on. I didn't hear very much of the world and I was talking to myself and my thoughts, going over ideas and then everything came to me because I allowed myself to be bored. These ideas, these blocks that we have, I was able to just, it was like a flood.
Everything came to me. The name of what I want to call my, you know, my practice and how I work with people. Like all of it came to me and I remembered it all because I have that kind of memory. Like, I'm not smart. I'm just really good at memorizing. Memory, yeah. And are you smart? Well, yeah, but I mean, in certain ways. But I just think I can always be smarter. I don't just like you said about being rich. Like I don't ever want to feel like that.
I think it's the interesting thing is, and maybe you feel the same way, the more information that I learn, the more stuff I study, the more things that come into my mind, the Dumber I feel, the more I realized that I know really like nothing. But that's the thing too, man. That's, I think that's why I went towards what I'm going like, why would I even get into
this stuff? And I was doing originally to be a better writer, NLP, studying Chris Boss's system and and being able to apply all these different things, just being able to communicate. Sales and. Yeah, I just, I was just trying to get people to buy shit and it worked and it didn't. I mean, it was just a throw up you. Never knew theories and you try stuff and this is what works for you and what doesn't. But I feel like I'm more compassionate now, like I'm
nicer to my kids. I, I'm, I wasn't always nice to my kids. Like it's not that my parents didn't love me. I don't know. My parents beat the shit out of me. Like when I talk about growing up in in a kind of a violent home, my my parents fought like in their room, but we heard it like it was a it was a brawl. I never heard my parents fight. I never saw my parents fight. I saw my mom stand in between my dad and my brother several times. And then I stepped in between, like never saw my dad.
My dad didn't touch my mom in like a physical abusive way or anything. Like, yeah, never heard them fight. So that was never around but. No, I think they feel the same way we feel about our kids. It's just they, you know, there's a difference when you say it, it's different. You know, I tell my kids I love them all the time and I don't do that because I'm trying to reinforce in their head. It's because when I see my kid,
I love them. I love them as I believe that God loves me. Like just so close, just immense amount of love. Like every single one of us has had somebody in our lives. And if you've never had, because you've had such a horrible fucking life, I feel so bad for you and I, I wish you a better future, but I just, I think we were harder and and we were more conditioned for this world because we why our parents didn't get that. I didn't get that. No, my no, your mom definitely didn't. Get that?
Yeah, my mom didn't my dad like my dad feels. I feel like my grandma shows more love to my dad than but his dad. I did not. And me and him actually talk about that all the time. Yeah. Because he feels it now. Yeah, and he has all of the like, we have these discussions and that and it's it's sad to see. But like we we've talked about how, you know, that whole elder side doesn't even feel like they really love each other.
It's like, oh, we love you. It's like it's not really family, doesn't feel like family. It just is like, I don't know, checking a box maybe? Yeah, totally. I, that's interesting cuz I, that brings up, I saw this podcast with Simon Sinek and you know, I read, you know, starts with Y and leaders eat last and this is the two books he's written and they're cool, but I looked at it from a marketing position before.
Yeah. And then I heard him on this podcast and he was talking about that and he went through something called like his big focus is friendship right now because he's like, there's all of these people who are out there who cannot connect. They just cannot connect.
We we don't understand like dating is become so weird and and very difficult like who think dating is difficult like the hardest thing dating back when you were a kid was like knowing that you have this giant zit that's inside your. Nose and confidence like everyone. It's the confidence back then but now dating on like social
apps and stuff was garbage dude. But even then, like they do all this interaction, but they would rather do it virtually because when they meet each other in person, they don't know what to say. Or how to interact? It's weird because they can, they can be quirky and, and you know, funny selves on on. Right. Oh yeah, they. Can't deliver the tonality. They can't understand reading this person over. There, I mean, I struggled with that. I was super charismatic through text, all of that.
In person, I was shy. I was really hard to like break that barrier because I wasn't confident. I didn't feel that. But if I was at home and I was sitting behind my phone, I can fucking text all day. I could say whatever I wanted because I was always picked on. I was always this little short, awkward kid. And so that awkward kid, if I'm standing in front of you, well, I feel short, awkward and, and not confident. So I can't do that if I'm standing there.
And for me, when I was growing up, there was no way that existed. So that first initial thing was like, it took me so long to get through that or be like, yeah, this is who I am. And then just being a smart ass, like I just constantly saying stupid shit like being a loudmouth, like I just, that's what I end up turning into well. I mean, it's, it's just you're a victim of circumstance, that's all. And it's. It's totally Mike. It has Amino.
Well, that's what I have to remind myself with my kids is I, I go, yeah, but you, you probably didn't do really good either. And you're just figuring it out. And all you need to do is just be there, love them, tell them that you love them and that you're there for them so they can come to you. Because so many kids won't go to their parents. They won't talk to them because they don't trust them. They don't feel safe. No they don't feel safe and the parents like what?
Fucking give you food and clothes and a place to live. Are you calling out my ex-wife right now? No no, no. I've had with my kids of like. Dude, that's like, by law. By law, the state requires that you give your child clothing, food and a place to live. Yeah, that's the three requirements. It's just like. That's why our parents did that. Yeah, well, my parents were. We earned our keep. It was like, you live here, do this, do this.
And that makes sense. You know, I, I live in the house, I make a mess, I help clean up because I live there. That to me, that made sense. That's not my. I didn't do that. I get that from. Me, I help mow the lawn because, well, I play in the yard. OK, that makes sense. I'm a kid. We rotate through. We have five kids. Whoop Dee Doo. So, you know, I think about it. I'm like, OK, these are the things that just it was growing up. We didn't get allowance. No, this was part of living here.
Why do you get paid for cleaning up your shit? Like I didn't get paid, so it's. I would ask for like money, like when I was a kid to go do certain things. And if I was doing all this stuff, my, my dad was cool with it. He's like, yeah, no problem. What do you need? We were really frugal, so we didn't do a lot of that. And it was just, we don't need that. That's not needed. And I mean a lot, a lot of it wasn't. It was just once of like, oh, that would be cool.
I would like to have that, yeah. But your parents were really steeped in the culture. Yeah. And the culture is being frugal. Well, and grandma and grandpa are incredibly frugal, so. I mean, they had lots of money. My mom was just super frugal from that, so she was terrified. That makes sense. That's like, that's why Terry spent lavishly, because he never had that. My SO there was a story that I learned when grandpa died. Something like that was the first time they went to China.
When I was like 8, my grandpa was going to, they wanted to pull up money, have a bunch of cash to go to China with because they needed, they felt like they needed that and the bank wasn't going to have enough cash. They weren't going to get to the bank in time. So they went to my mom like, hey, do you have cash? We need some money. My mom went to and my mom always felt like she was broke. She went to the safe, pulled out $80,000 in cash, $80,000 in cash. Well, I mean, that sounds like a
lot back then. Now it's. Like then. Yeah. I mean, now it would be amazing. I mean, how well will we be doing right now just. Like, these are the types of things, but it's the fear of like, I don't have enough, I'm not going to have enough. And like grandpa, hoarded his money until he died, and then when he died, he donated it to the church. Well, when grandma died, I don't know if you remember, but he just kind of went through this
like very giving stage. Well, he didn't want to manage anything, so they got rid of the apartments. That's when I got this house. That's when they got rid of everything, because they didn't. Grandpa didn't want the headache. He didn't want the hassle. No. And I remember having because I used to live across the street from him, right? And I had lots and lots of conversations with him for years. And, you know, we would go over things and he, I don't know, one time he just looked at me.
He's just like, hey, I hope one day you can be prosperous and make a lot of money. But do me a favor and don't be a miser like me. He's like, I really wish that I could have given more of this away, shared more of it, empowered other people, traveled more. He's like, I just, I felt like we just kept it all there. And he's like, but for what? Yeah, Louise is gone. Exactly. It's like, what? What do you do with it now? Yeah, it's I don't think money
is the root of all evil. I think money is the root of all distraction from life. I think it's making money. Your goal is the root of all evil, because. Well, it's like idolatry. Like. People having money isn't a problem. Having money isn't evil. Making money isn't evil.
No, but when that is your like whole and sole focus, I think that's where the evil comes in because you truly, you get rid of relationships, you push people and other things aside, morals, other things, because it's the money that's important. Yeah, but I mean, it's a it it I, I remember hearing one podcast where they were talking to this guy and he is a like a
life coach for billionaires. And why he does it is he helps them to mentally face the challenges of being super wealthy and helping them to let go of you have lots of money, you're not going to die, no one's coming for you. It's OK. And the reason why he could relate to him so well as he was a millionaire, he was a multi millionaire, but he had seen this sickness with all these individuals who don't have the ability to be able to just give themselves a break and understand their new
differences. It's like when we were talking with Bennett, Like what? You know, when I asked him about his, I asked him about his Tesla. Oh yeah. And he's like, yeah, he's just like he he regrets it. And he's just like, I really regret that, right? Because of the cost of the car meant nothing to him. And he's just like, it's ridiculous. Yeah. And he is one of those guys. He is like a fear of loss guy. He he has to keep everything really close.
He's very conservative with his money and and good for him. But what do you make it for? Yeah. What do you make all that money for? What does it do for you? That's it's why, like, you know, my wife and I have struggled. You've struggled and it's hard. But you know, that's one of the things of doing things on your own is that you're going to do one of two things.
Either you're going to die poor or you're going to be able to be successful in something because you put in that time and that effort because you really know like you think back to being just an employee and then you do an entrepreneurship like, and I'm not saying ones better than the other one, but God be with you because it's it sucks. It sucks. It's hard. Entrepreneur life is tough.
Like going from that nine to five secure to like the first, hey, I'm going to jump into this, I'm going to start my own business, go out, do all of this. Like that was a whole new thing. And you don't have a whole team of like, hey, we're going to do this, we're going to do this. It's like. Or you don't have somebody saying, hey, you got to be here by this time and you can leave at this time and you will get money. If you don't do that, you're you're gone.
It's like you will show up at this time and you're going to start working because, well, that's what you have to try and do in order to make money and you're going to keep working. But because it's your business, you're going to work till 10/11/12 at night, 1234 in the morning because. It's like the first time I got a salary when I had a salary. You are constantly working. Always working.
Oh, bro, I take calls at 8:00 at night with clients who were needing to have their hand held and, or, you know, discussing the, the contract and what they'd like, what they don't like. Like, and, and my wife at the time, she was, we had like three kids and there are no, we had four kids and they were all little and she was just like,
what the fuck? I'm, I'm handling all these kids and you're taking calls at night Now I make it a point not to talk to anybody in business after 5:00 or 6:00 PM unless I'm doing a function. But I just don't anymore. Yeah. And the shitty thing is, I I used to talk about work all the time. Oh yeah, because and. Because that was it.
That's the thing, one of the things I've had to kind of do recently because I would go work in bed, I would not scroll on my phone, but I would bring my laptop in and I would start working and then I would keep working until I got tired. And I'm like, I need to not do that. And so the other night I was, I was sitting out here and then it was like 10:00. And I'm like, I'm not tired. I can work on happier headspace for an hour, hour and a half.
Yeah. So I went and grabbed my laptop and Emily was like, oh, are you coming to bed? And I'm like, no, I'm going to go work. And she's like, can't you work tomorrow? And I was like, yeah, I'm also going to work tomorrow, but I'm not going to bed yet. And so I'm going to go work because that's, I don't want to. I'm trying to separate that space and have certain spaces designated for certain things like I'm not going to use my phone in bed. I don't want to use my laptop and work in bed.
I just like that is for reading, sleeping and sex. That's, that's like what it's for. And so aside from that, I want to use my other spaces for things like that. You know, hey, I'm going to work. So I'm going to come sit in the studio and I'm going to work or I'm going to sit in the office and I'm going to work because that is OK versus trying to take that And then I can designate and go, hey, I'm not working
right now. OK, I'm going to just set that aside and go, I will work on that later when I'm doing work time, when I'm in my workplace with work stuff, instead of going like I'm going to start doing it all the time, everywhere I'm at constantly. And it's like, but but why? Is it because that person needs a response right now? Or I just am worried that if I don't get the my response right now, they're not going to respond if I send it tomorrow
during business hours. Like if it's a real relationship, if it's a real business interaction, it's going to happen tomorrow. If it's not it, it's not going to happen anyway. Right. It doesn't matter right now. Yeah, exactly. And if it is, I don't think that's the person I want to do business with because that's not the type of relationship that I want. But it's like.
That's not a life. No. And so if that's the type of engagement, that's not my engagement and you can move on, like that's OK because I will work with the next person who has the better relationship, who I have that connection with. And they're not looking for a 8-9 o'clock response. They're like, no be a human, be with your family, talk during regular hours. You know what's funny is that when when we had jobs and if they called you on your day off or after the hours, I I never
answered. Nope, I you're not paying me for this time. This is my time. But that's The funny thing because even when they call you after hours, you're not getting paid for that time either. As an entrepreneur, Nope. Like it's all about, it's about establishing a really good relationship and setting boundaries early and letting them know like any other relationship, you set those boundaries and it helps you to be able to make that relationship stronger.
Like yesterday, dude, like I just, I've had a real tough time. Like I, I had a client for a while. I knew it was coming to an end. I had a couple of the things fall through. And so now, like, you know, both of us, right, we're flat broke and. Beautiful time. Like a lot of you, right? Luckily we have friends in high spaces. But yeah, but it dude, like I I haven't been pushing forward for my coaching. I haven't been pushing that out there.
And I just like you want to help people Like I do it now. Like will I be able to make money from it? I absolutely will. Will it take all my time? Nope. You know, I mean, like Kim was saying she's like, yeah, if you're available Monday through Friday and I'm like Fridays I have off and she's like, oh, what do you have? I'm like, I do recordings and and she's like, oh, OK, yeah, sure. Yeah, she goes. You just tell all of them saying, yeah, I have a podcast. I do this.
Well, it's even like setting up the schedule for happier Headspace yesterday and I was like, oh, I'm going to keep it this wide open. And I'm like, why? Why am I doing that to myself? Why am I allowing everyone to take all of this time of mine instead of just designating it as a specific slot of time? If you want to be on the show, you want to talk, this is the time that we have available.
This is when we slot that in instead of just giving everyone all of my time designated is this time a specific time for this which allows me to give other time to do things that I need. Yeah, and we just don't allow ourselves to have that time. And once you start giving it, that's what I love about when I use cannabis because, you know, from the outside looking in for somebody who doesn't use cannabis to be like that guy has a problem. The problem is I'm not using enough cannabis.
Yeah, that's right. But I just, I don't know, man. I, I, I, I'm more compassionate, I'm more caring. I'm, I'm more interested, I'm more curious. I'm, I'm allowing my ego to take a sidestep for just a little while so I can just be. It was like I was telling you, dude, I was at church with, with my family on Sunday and I hit like five hits off of my pen and I went and I had a great time. My son and I just bonded. I just felt good. I saw people, shook hands, gave hugs.
I every single church that you know, when we move, we go to that one. I always tell these people that I love them, and I truly do because I'm trying to get that because they're all about community, that these motherfuckers don't even talk to each other. Yeah, that's that's the thing I hate and I like. I've lived in this house for 10 years and the neighbors who have bought bought the house next door have been the friendliest neighbors I've had. The ones before weren't bad, but
most people don't talk here. They're not friendly, they don't like there's no neighborly thing, that there's no community. And it's like, granted, I'm not part of their community, but even when I was when I first moved in, I didn't see it. Dude, there's like four houses around me that are not in in the church at all. And yet nobody talks to each other. So I make it a point when I see them, Hey, man, what's up? Because that's, that's how we used to be.
Like neighborhood used to be like they'd have block parties. There's still places like I think like Pennsylvania and shit like that. They're the places to get. My old neighbor, my old neighbor and my parents were growing up and every year they would throw a big, huge block party probably a couple times a year. And everyone in the neighborhood would come. We'd have a big, huge BBQ, fireworks, all this stuff. Yeah, that's cool. And we would do that all the time.
But it was just, it wasn't a church thing. It was just a neighborhood thing. Yeah, Yeah. And there was a few people who weren't religious in the neighborhood who would come because it was just a community. But it was an actual. And that doesn't exist in a lot of them. And it sucks because those that war, those people were amazing people. A lot of those are still some of the best people that I know are some of those people.
Yeah, yeah. And I was just thinking about that because the idea is they, they don't ever connect. And I think a lot of times where you may be in like a certain type of organized group or an ecclesiastical group, whatever it is you put on this face when you go there, you're not you. And then when you see them at the place where everybody's supposed to be prim and proper, right? Look at me. I have a town, I have a suit, I look respectable, but I don't give a shit about that.
And it's funny because there's so much of that way. But I find myself, I used to be like, you know, like a super hardcore conservative. Don't swear or anything like that. Say shucks, darn and poo. Except I say poo online. Like when I get killed, poo poo, I say that some guys like ah, poo, what the fuck you talking about man? Fucking people shooting at you. And I'm like, yeah, man, poo poo. I don't get mad at games, dude. And but where the fuck was I going with this? Where was I?
I don't even remember. Like I shouldn't have smoked this second bowl. It feels awesome though. But anyways. Science. I know. Yeah, I have no idea. This has been quite the conversation. Yeah, no, it's a good sesh, man. Just sitting here just going off and having a sesh. You know, we, we did this because we were wanted to be able to give you a little bit more of how our thought process is. Maybe you got something similar with us. So you're like. And honestly, this is a lot like
our calls. So when we have a sesh or when we just chat, this is a lot like our discussions. So Yep. Every time like this is super real, like it just and my ADHD of jumping from one topic to another. So hey, if we talked about something and you were like, dude, I'd love for you guys to do a whole show on that one. Set us up. And if you want to be a guest on here, you got something in cannabis you want to talk about. You got a cool, amazing story, like you know, you saw it cure something.
I don't know or. Or maybe you're just a super interesting story that you have. Yeah, you might be fun on the show. Yeah. So go ahead and hit us up over there and that's it. So yeah, we'll catch you next week.