I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse we're. Cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations with everyday. People. Cannabis companies. Celebrities. And your mom? Welcome to the sesh sesh. What's up guys? How do you help? We are trying out the Doctor Dabber XS. This thing is tiny. It's a dab rig. It's really cool. Is that the top where the banger? It seals completely.
Like pushes down into it. What I'm thinking you do is you put your tap on the top and you just so it allows time for it to not escape, but keeps it in a controlled setting. Maybe you need to increase the temperature. That's what I was wondering. Oh, there we go here. Alright, so I3 clicks is how you change stamps and then you press and hold it and it'll heat up. This is a fantastic little piece. I like how handheld this is. Dude on the drives. Yeah, this will be perfect for
like Rd. trips. Remember that little little 1 you had that you used to take on road trips? That one would be way better. That's good. Hang on. There we go. Tap it, tap it. So the other one is the Oxo C Note. I still have that for Rd. trips, but I like when I go out of town because if I'm going away, I don't want to bring one of the big huge guys. But that is like perfect for traveling somewhere. You could just if I were to go camping in that, I just bring that guy. He's so tiny.
Well, and yeah, I'm going to take, I've got a camping trip I'm going on here in in the next day. Dude, even hiking that would be my hiking. Like this is the perfect hiking rig camping rig. Like yeah, you just pop it in the side of your bag. It's itsy bitsy. Look in there. I know it was. Like still clear or is a little brown? Very clearish like. Slightly yellow. See, the thing I don't like about ceramic bankers is that the temp is always too high and
you just see it in there. And this one, it keeps it all in there, which keeps cleaning super easy. Oh yeah, you just take AQ tip and. Or you just unscrew that, pop it out and it and the the banger screws in and it snaps in there. The other one that I really like is the bomb Cycloud because it clicks in and that is the ease. It has the best airflow. I do like that spinning top. It's so. Fun. You lose a little bit dude, I'm telling you what. Like the airflow at the bottom of that banger?
It has these like fin, like gills. Holy shit that's crazy. And it's so easy to clean, but the the whole rig itself, it's super easy to clean. This is. So right now this Doctor Dabber access just on its own is 159. That's not bad. And you can save 10% by clicking on the link below. Yeah, in the show notes. Yeah, go use that. And the Doctor Dabber gave us that code. You guys, it runs until they tell us to fuck off. So cool. Things.
Are here, but it was. On the battery life on this, let's let's see if it tells us real fast under maybe specifications. So it's got 4 temperature settings ranging from 475 up to 625. And so it gives you, it says, 9 to 12 seconds to heat up and oh, you get 35 heating cycles on a single charge. Yeah. 35 sessions on a single charge? That's impressive as hell on that little tiny device. You should, dude, that's legit. Doctor Dabber.
Your stuff is dope. Like, I sent them an e-mail back, 'cause they hadn't said anything about sending it out. And I just sent it back and I was like, you guys spoiled us. I said we we got so excited that we actually pushed it up. And it comes out in like Thursday's episode. Oh, if you heat it up, it's harder to scoop it. I always scoop it cold. Oh, OK. Yeah 'cause otherwise it'll slip right off. That's what she. Said Yep. Or love about this? Or just press it once and it'll
heat up, yeah. I love about that this part. Yep, just a little drip. Yeah, it doesn't get the rest. I usually just wipe it on the inside of my glass jar again, figure it'll get used later just 'cause I'm like, I don't want to get the sides of my banger or anything. Dirty dude. It Do you know what this looks like? A pregnancy test. I know it is. Positive. Positively high. God, yeah, you're about to be. What's What's it like getting inhyenated because it's not
impregnated? You're going to be happy, that's all I know. This is so cool. What the the little funk? I don't know. I don't want to be a commercial about these guys, but this shit's cool. Yeah. And I, I'm really surprised that it's just a very affordable price range for that. Yeah, and it's high quality guys. We. Doctor Dabber. It's Doctor Dabber, really. There's not much more you can say. Look at that little splash in there. Isn't that cool? Yeah, I like the design.
I love the design. I think the glass is sleek. It's. It's just good. Do you guys put water in your dab rigs? We haven't been doing it for ages now. Ever since we had Alex. On the show. Yep, and honestly I feel like the experience is just so much better with without water in it. Do that. A dead pole. There you go. Wow. All right, now that we'll get properly elevated. That's the thing with candy gas,
though. I feel like I'm never feeling stoned when I have it. It's not a displaced, it's not a like Stony feeling. It's a pretty clear headed energized. You have to have a good amount of candy gas. I feel in this just for those who are more experienced cannabis consumers. And when I say experienced, meaning habitual, you're using a
daily. It shouldn't be your only thing in your diet, but fucking hell it's so easy for it to be your only go to. It's like eating hamburgers for breakfast, morning, morning, noon and night. I could do that. I could totally do that. I I have no problem doing that. I like simplicity with my meals. Even though I can cook very complex meals, I choose simplicity over anything. I like cheap, fast and easy. I have a lot of the time pretty common stuff throughout my like my week. I hate it.
I hate it now because I'm just like what the fuck to make. I just, yeah, that was my problem always that I'd find when I was trying to figure out what to do for dinner. And it really only happened after it became just me because I was like, oh, shit, well, now what? What do I actually want? And then I would scroll Yelp even looking at like food places and going, do I want to pick something up? What do I, what do I even want
to eat? And then I would spend literally like an hour scrolling Yelp looking at places like, what's this plan? All right. And and then I would same as recipes. I used to spend hours scrolling Pinterest throwing recipes up like maybe I'll make this one. This one I have. I haven't used Pinterest in years, but 90% of my boards are all just recipes. Shit, Yeah, no, I for me, you have to excuse me, the candy. Yes, it's kicking in. Plus we had a great episode with.
Animal tsunami. Animal tsunami. That one was really chill. Go check. Out that episode, it gets chiller the longer that it sits. Yeah, and. But it's not a bad way just to really like I'm just going to hang out, it'll cause no problems. If you've been stressed and you need just chill out. Yeah, you almost have like this from my head. I was hitting like Caribbean vibes, you know, that are some like weird Final Fantasy game. That's why you were talking about sunning.
You're like, I just want to be on the. Beach. Yeah, I'm I'm just got this like vibe in my head, but with candy gas. It's awesome because it elevates the conversation. No, actually I was going to break some mutts. I just got taxed by a buddy of mine now again this. Is for rubbing it in. Yeah, Jesse's cool and he's got buddies. I got buddies, I got buddies. No, they sent me this thing about this.
Anytime I see mainstream media put out anything about medical this is the same fucks that decided to try and get you to take the vaccine and whatever whether you're for it or not. Which you know it just stupid. It's just the lack of science behind it and the push of. It's the lack of journalism. Yeah. Journalism used to dude. You know what journalism is, and now it's a fictitious character in a movie that's doing the right thing. Yeah, even. Investigative journalism is
dead. Because no one wants to call out. Well, I guess if they do, they do their shoots themselves in the foot or they get trampled over. Because no one, no one actually does that anymore. I think of the thing it's like Vice. Vice used to be like really good investigative journalism, and then it's not. And why they do. They were taking out money, yes. They were taking out the best way to stop something. Twitter. No, not Twitter.
Twitch, same thing. Gamers making a platform to communicate with gamers that turn into a business that sold for billions of dollars. Why? For private interest groups? What could we sell on there? How could we sell it? You develop these really strong demographics of people because you force them into these demographics from FOMO did that thing is a really cool rig it. Really is. I am. I'm really shocked of how good that. I am too for like how tiny it is.
Because you see things like that where it's got that like, screwed up. And you reject the old shitty. Right. They were like this one. You put too much heat on it. It's all bent to the tip. We can't sell it. Well, maybe it'll curve around and get to the, you know, no, no one's buying that. Yeah, but if you blow in the other end, then maybe it helps get there, so. That's where Brandon is going anyways. So this is such a cool device, guys. Seriously.
Code cannabis school? Is it cannabis school or CSP? God. Something it's. In the emails and it's in. You'll see it down below. It's in the episode notes below. Yeah, go down there, use the code freaking help. The 150. 160 but you get 10% off. Yeah, dude. I mean, that's going to cover your shipping more likely, which is fucking awesome. Sometimes places like that offer free shipping on orders over like that. See how it like splashes in? There. Yeah, I thought it was very. Interesting.
Well at least let you know. Like that's dirty. This is really easy to clean anyways. I'm excited. Off that one but this guy had sent me this thing from CNN marijuana use drastically increases risk of dying from heart attacks and stroke. But what a lot of these studies and I I've seen this already, yeah. And a lot of these studies forget to be able to put into there is that the individuals that are having those issues had premorbidity conditions that these are to. Those.
Overweight. Yeah, severely overweight, Type 1, Type 2 diabetes not being managed like, you know, I get that. Well, but yes, you're type 2 diabetic, but those first two things go very much hand in hand. 100% morbidly obese and stuff. And it's like there is certain things that come with that that just your body's not built to handle that and it leads to more issues. Well, exactly. And the other side though is to be able where, where are they
getting the data? They'll say it's a large set of individuals if it's not 50 a hundred 200,000 people, which I know is an astronomical number, but when you're getting it out of a small demographic, 50,000 people is not a lot of. Most of theirs is actually out of context. Exactly. And if you look at the real data set that's pulled, often times the headlines and the data that's said is actually not the data that the actual survey
matches. And so it's been interesting 'cause when I see those, I usually like to go read the actual data in the survey. Exactly. What happened? And then I'm like, oh, hey, this actually just says it's for this data set. And here it's not really a accurate like collection of all this user or consumer data. It's just more of like, hey, it's like looking at it and going, hey, using cannabis when you're at this certain stage will cause this.
Well, that's all anecdotal. And that cause 90% of what our studies are anecdotal and everything else. But then it's not even pulled from something. It's like, well, this person who got in trouble was doing this. So that shows that it causes this because, well, they've used these different things and so that just correlates. You're like, but you're missing all these other predisposed things that might actually have been through there. Like what what happens in that person's genetic line?
Everything else where there are other products that they were consuming prior to that, Were there other things going on in their life before that as well? Like it's not just looking at this one aspect and going this causes every single thing that you see there. Exactly. Well, and, and The thing is, is it what it sounds like to me when studies like this come out? I know people that are in their 80s who have been using cannabis since the 60s. Oh yeah and they're doing just fine.
Is it like that fat dude who gets that giant fucking gravity bong out of his pool of linking like 16 two liter bottles together to create this huge hit? Is that guy going to die? Possibly, but he would do that from inhaling any type of smoke. It's also dose dependent. You know, you're looking at it and you're like, how many people who are in their older age are taking crazy high like 1g dabs?
How many people are doing really large doses of edibles or are doing these gravity bongs that are massive? Well, the only one I know is to turn Tony where his grandma gets high as fuck all the time and he's always like blasting her in the wheat face with weed and stuff. And his mom's always yelling at him for getting her too high. That's the only person I've ever seen is his grandma and she's not like she might be in her 70s, she might be 80.
I have no idea. So, so this study that CNN used, so it was a global systematic review of the meta analysis. So OK, led by researchers at the University of Toulouse Tulusi. I don't know, horrible pronunciations when I read it. And then somebody will go, no, it's this, I'm like that, says Violin. Anyways, it included data from 24 large observational study, 17 across sectional 6 cohorts, 1 case control conducted between 2016 to 2023.
In total, the analysis encompassed approximately 200 million participants, most of the ages of 19 to 59. So the studies finding said they were 29% higher risk of acute coronary syndrome, 20% higher risk of stroke, 2 times higher than the risk death of cardiovascular disease. But the the counter argument to that is a residual confounding of like premorbidic, like we just talked about measurement imprecisions, what was the frequency, what's the dose, what's the method that they were using?
Yeah, right. Observational studies limitations including potential sections of bias and shared data sets across studies threaten reliability. So because it could have been 200 million thing, but we don't know how reliable these tests were done. Yeah, so here's my my thoughts on that potentially. So my dad when he was crazy stressed working like they had the homes, they were doing the best they ever did.
But at the same time his blood pressure was through the roof and the doctors told him your heart physically can't handle this long term. You will die. You will rupture some part of your heart. I wonder if it were to go, hey, these people who maybe had crazy high consumption where their doses were always putting their hearts in crazy horrible states might induce more stress on it that might cause more like lead to higher percentages of heart
attacks. And that so I could potentially see incredibly high dosing like on a regular consistent all the time basis where you're putting your body in this stressful state. Well, and that's another thing too is and, and this is, this is a quick check on myself, man. I've been dabbing a little too much lately, I know that. Do you feel like you're really elevated and like crazy high
heart when you do it or just. No, but I I do have like I have, was it called like moderate moderately, I'm low on high high hypertension. It's getting up there. It's not crazy, but it's getting up there. Could that be from all of life and everything else? That is a big contributor to it, but depending on what strains I'm smoking will affect that. Now, as much as I like candy, it does elevate my heart rate, which can change my blood pressure and I typically feel it in my heart on that.
I don't feel erasing but it's not as chill as it was with Amni. No, it's ready to go. And it's again, I mean, it's like what you said before, it's it's the intent. What am I? You're like, I'm using this for pain. And so when you're using cannabis for certain things, I would say like it's, it's a quick check, like am I doing this 'cause I'm bored, 'cause sometimes I do that? It might just be dose then. And we talk about that too, like, hey, there's the habitual side of well, it's here.
I'm going to keep puffing versus hey, I'm bored. I'm going to take, I'm going to take one hit. I'm going to use that hit to find some way to overcome my boredom. Yeah. And but again, it's it's dose. How much are we using? How often are we using? What is our purpose for it?
Like there's times and maybe it's OK to be bored, but sometimes it's really fucking hard to be bored because, I mean, we live in this constant world of we've got these computers in her hand that entertain us constantly, you know? And any whim and whimsy that pops into her head, it's oh, pull out her phone. Oh, think of this, pull out her phone. Oh, think of this, pull out my phone. Hey, well, don't worry, I'll just pull out my phone.
Yeah, dude, I, I since I did that three day fast of no social media, no YouTube, no, no, nothing, not even LinkedIn. I found myself subconsciously going to it when I opened up my phone because I was going to add some. I could listen to books, I could read books. Yeah, or I can watch a show, but I wasn't allowed to go to YouTube. And that actually was helpful because I watched the show, but I didn't feel like I needed to
watch another thing right after. You can be learning a lot, which is super fucking cool, but at the same. Time. That's what's next. Right. And then the distraction. You know when shorts came out. Best thing for marketing? Worst thing from human brains? Oh yeah, it's that TikTok real mind and stuff and you're like cool, now I need something new when entertaining and. Well, and it and it's all based off of whatever you've talked about or whatever you've
inquired about. Then you will start getting biased information that will be geared towards whatever conversations you're having. It'll be all pro one thing and then you fuck around with your phone. You don't even have to do that. You could just say shit on your phone going I I don't know why communism is getting a bad rap. I think we should all do it right. If I say that now it like like my Facebook feeds like I'm gonna have. Excited to see where your
algorithm. Communistic like support groups coming outlook. Hey bro, we heard about what you you know what I mean? But I mean it's like that it's, it's all driven for you to buy and that's totally, I mean. Yeah. But it it it's, you know, listening to that book, I know why it made so much more sense of why we are the witch. The end of the world is just the beginning, OK. And the reason why it made sense was is that before we worked to live and provided just enough to
have a little bit more. Yeah. But once we started to get more, we wanted less of people. Kids weren't seen as a value add to the family to keep economic status high. It was a liability. Got all these Rugrats coming around here and they don't have anything to do. Yep. So they created schools because they didn't have anything for them to do. And it was all in good 10. Oh, we'll teach them how to read. But what a concept. Yeah, but then. You think about it though, it's so crazy.
You go back even at the starts of America, like 200 years after and stuff, education was a very you go for a short stint, you learn a lot in that time. People were way more eloquent, like creativity and stuff was way better than it is now. But people would work at their family thing or be sent off to go learn a trade or do to learn something a little bit and then come back and like, it was just a very different thing.
But now, and now school is like, instead of a short stint, it's hey, we need to fill 8 hours of your day because, well, your parents work 8 hours. So we need you to be here for 8 hours and then we're going to give you homework and stuff. Well, because we're not smart enough to design a system that really like uses our kids abilities to the best that they have. Like we could design there. There's so much better education, probably like possibilities out there than what we have.
Yeah, I, I get what you're saying It. It was kind of the, I went down a rabbit hole based off of a conversation that we had a while ago and I contemplated why just just a curiosity on my part, not to answer it, but you had said, well, I'm not proud to be an American. And I go, I totally get that. I totally get that. But I didn't know why I got that I did. So I started to search on it and the reason why it's like our friend, our common friend. When we don't have a purpose, we
don't feel good about ourselves. When? Where's the highest time of? And you feel that's why I'm not proud. To no, no, no, I'm saying a lot of people and I'll, and I'll get to the point. I'm that's just the start. And and then I'll, I want to hear what you think on this one, because it's, it's not an assumption, it's a theory. And the theory is, is that we don't have a lot of national pride because we don't really fucking care. We don't have pride because we
don't contribute. We think we contribute, but we don't contribute. You look at other nations that contribute, they have strong cultures, not of, you know, like the Germans with the leather Hosen right? Or the Italians with their pasta. Culture. Yeah, no culture goes well beyond that. That's food culture. Yeah, there's. Still, society like they have an entire. Proud. Yeah. A proud 'cause they have something to be proud of, I feel like.
And the, and the reason why a lot of them have proud feelings is they actually take part in building their country when you have. And this is where I was going to go with it. I think that it would be a cool idea to introduce mandatory service, but not in the sense of
military. I'm saying that if we went back to where a police officer can only work in the town that he grew up in because he knows that town really well, I think that's better than bringing in some dude from LA who's worked on hard streets and comes here with a hard attitude and because he was conditioned through PTSD to act a certain way as a police officer. So I'll finish and then I want
your opinion on that. Where we don't have that pride, when we had pride in this country was after World War 2 because we created it was some of the fastest decline in violence and more exception of a melting pot of cultures. It was rough. I'm not going to say it wasn't, but it was definitely on the upward trend of more bringing people together because when everybody's doing good, it's easy to see the good and everybody.
I think a lot's changed in that time frame, of course, when America was coming up and then was, I'm not talking. About it like at the. Laws and things have changed that has not made this country the same as no dude it's. Changed 7 times? Yeah, it's changed 7 times and it will continue. To change it will 100%.
But I think that the ability to have pride in something can also change because they look at it and go, yeah, this is cool because this is this is the story that's been painted in front of us and this is the and this is the story everyone's told us. But then you look at other perspectives and you go, but maybe this picture that they've said isn't as pretty and shiny and not as they said.
Maybe this picture that we're supposed to be holding up and rooting and that is kind of shitty sometimes. And then right, maybe right now this picture we're holding up is actually kind of covered in shit. And I'm not proud of this shitty picture at this moment.
Well, and the thing that the counter argument I had that is that I get where you're coming from, but where if you really go talk, not the tourist shit, I'm talking really talk to other people around the world, they would say they would gladly come over and be an American. Oh yeah, I've talked to people all around the. World, right.
And, and, and so when, when you're talking about that, you know, what I see it is, is just we haven't suffered enough to actually start to give a shit about what's going on. And here's what I mean by that 'cause I like where you're going and I totally agree with that. But what we have is a bunch of armchair consultants who think that they could do better, yet won't get involved in civic duty. Yes. And the reason why we have so many evil politicians is because most of the people became
conformists. They were like, well, because. I want my even within our locals, we don't do anything within our local communities, no. So it's like you said, we've got armchair who go to Facebook, Instagram, which has. Been so nice, whatever. It is, you know, and so that's, that's where all these experts are, is, is on these stupid platforms or on their podcast or wherever it is that they're going, Oh, this is this.
And you're like, cool. Well, that doesn't actually do anything because you're, you're armchair expert. You're not going out, you're not actually making an impact. You're not even trying to make an impact, but like, hey, I shared this post. Well hey, I ranted about this. You're wanting to look at it from extreme bias situation of going well this side I feel more a part of you. Think mine's incredibly biased. What's that?
You just said I look from a very incredibly biased perspective, people, OK. I'm sorry if you took that. That's what. I was trying to see. All of us do, all of us do. And the reason why we do it is groupthink. When you are involved online constantly in some chat and that person you agree with on some level or another, you're going to go, I like what they're saying and I'm going to stick with that, which is great that
you're right, I think. That only works for a little bit because I don't think there is any human in the world that I agree with on everything. I think there's only I agree with every human, probably on a certain level of things. I think that's OK. What? Do you mean by that? I mean that there might be difference in beliefs, thoughts, how I approach things at every single human, but there might be similarities with every single
human as well. And I don't think that I will look at anyone's thoughts or perspectives or thing and always go, this is always right. Or I will look at it and go what they've said because. No, I totally get. That there's never going to be a person that I look at and go, you're perfect. You will always have the right thought, words to say, approach, whatever. Every one of us is fucked up and flawed.
And so if I look at it and I go, hey, I'm going to put you on a pedestal or you or you, well, no, I'm the fucking idiot because I'm the one putting someone else. Yeah, well, we, we allowed this world to happen for comfort. We sold our freedom for comfort. And the reason why, what I think of the definition of freedom isn't your ability to do whatever the fuck you want. Freedom is your responsibility to keep it. And you have to stand up for your rights, otherwise you lose them.
But that's the thing, like all I hear in today's society is a lot of talk and little fights and. Because it's all the social media. It's not even that it it is. It is our world as a collective. Dude, we are soft fucking people. We are so soft out of history. We are incredibly soft. Yeah, we and we fight. Well, no, we we fight over about feelings now, which is ridiculous. Yeah, we fought over goods and all that other stuff land, and now we fight over feelings,
which. Because if you try and fight someone else over that, you'll get sued. You'll go to. Jail. No, no, no, no. I'm not saying like those things. Like I'm saying, like those laws continue to be created on top of one another because nobody's listening, nobody cares. And they find a way around it. So there's no real big consequence. You know, it's, it's like the idea, like in other countries, even to this day, you steal something, they'll cut off your hand. That's a pretty big fucking
deterrent. Same with the politicians. They have an issue, they kill the politician because it's you're not fucking listening, You're doing what we're like or. We don't or, or there's an organized crime in there that doesn't want it to go away and so they'll do that. Italy did that. Mexico's going through that so many. It's the same thing, but America, like it's very soft because we've got on one side, we've got the president who is what it is, and we've got very
soft people. And I think the government is allowed to do what they do because we care about. We don't care. No, we just don't. We're just not willing to be able to get involved. And that's what I'm saying. We don't care. You look at those countries that are very proud of where they are and the people will actually force change is because they're willing to do that. What I see now is you've got 2 volatile. We don't have change. Well, no, we don't have change because we do groupthink,
because we're not people. Don't do it like you said, other countries have done that but. We don't in some ways. In some ways, I mean, I'm not going to look at Europe as some great thing. They're in a cluster fuck of craziness right now with massive immigration issues, not being able to keep up with their gun brownouts, blackouts in certain areas, and it's all due to too much people on the load. It wasn't built for that. It's like Provo. Provo was not built for the people that it has.
We got so. Small time we got blackouts here because it's like the power goes out. Oh sorry our grids old as fuck. It's not meant to support this. Because they didn't think to update that they built more homes than they upgraded the system. And that's the same thing. It's well. That's how we are here and maybe it's very common everywhere else
too. But like our Rd. system, like they've plotted for 20 years of hey, we're gonna double in population, but yet there's not been any plan on infrastructure. It's so hard to move it because where does the money go? It goes towards public things. Like I think it's ridiculous when they're investing on these nice things like we're not at that point where we, we've passed our golden age. I, I, I think that we're going to go into a steady decline based. On the United States.
The world, the world, I don't think the United States will suffer as much as anywhere else. Not at all. We have the largest land mass. We also have the best resources. We don't have to import, but we do. That was after, after World War 2 that we started to import because every other we could have easily just came in as an empire easily. But they didn't. And when they didn't, it created commerce. Now trade lines were open. the US Navy would protect your
ships. That's why oil was able to go everywhere as opposed to just because oil in the United States was only made in the United States. You got gas here, you got gas in Europe. It was only made there. It wasn't shipped. It's so crazy how fast. Because even then, like in it's not 60s was when they had that gas shortage here and they had rations. It was in the 70s. And my dad, my grandpa, was like, they had rations for food, for gas, for all of that shit here.
That wasn't even that long ago. Yeah, set. It was in the 1970s. During Carter's administration after World War 2. Yeah, it was after Vietnam. Yeah, it got really bad and and you know, honestly, it's like the strangest thing, but it that was. A lot of American ingenuity, time though a lot of American cars and a lot of American products being built. Hard times do does really good things for Americans and so oh. No I meant even during that we are still getting fucked so.
Well, but, but it's ingenuity, you know, you create, you know the thing that doesn't create big change? Soft times, hard times create big change. To simplify things. Think about it. The automobile, all the shit, we're fucking refrigerators, AC. This is only created because we didn't. We're having more comfortable times. We're spending more time indoors as opposed to the farming era before the industrialization of America. Did people just farmed? They didn't.
Think we had more inventions in the last 200? Years. Oh, 100%. Than before. Way more because you had more people who are educated, well read and combined with other people that are not just within their small communities. When you think that started declining? What do you mean? Having so many well read, well spoken, educated people. I don't think it was a it was a goal, and nowhere in history did we have mass education.
No, I said. When do you think that changed, that we went from smarter, more intellectual that to where we are now? I'd say like the 1960s, early 1960s in education. They changed a lot of the structure of education in the 60s. It got Dumber, got longer. You talk to people who were in high school during the 70s and they felt the same way that kids feel today. If it was a waste of time, they'd rather be doing something else. Because back then they it's like what we read about.
Like in the 1800s, kids who did get education, It wasn't all day. It was a short amount of their day and they had high intellect and the reason why honestly it's because. That's the other time I was thinking about inventions was like Edison's time and stuff where there was. But there's very few people that did. That, yeah. That's what I'm saying. But there's still very few people who create inventions overall. There's just. There's so many inventions.
There's a lot of them don't come out not because of one thing or another. It's usually capital. Now you have to have the money. You think about if Westinghouse actually believed in Tesla and said fuck it, let's save the world, Yeah, where would we be now? Yeah, or we could have figured out the Tesla was. Quack. But that's the other thing
though. So like inventions come from hard times, but that's the other thing is like you talk about Atlantis times or that where they probably didn't have normal jobs in this and they were like Greek philosopher times and stuff. Like we didn't have. Jobs was there a lot of yeah. So is there maybe not jobs within that and not the same type of need, but like more creative stuff produced because of? No, I, I, I get what you're saying.
Like I think that maybe even the 60s is too early to say that. I think that the steady decline was the more comfortable that Americans became. Everywhere else wanted to do the same thing. Why not? I mean these bad mother fuckers come in and stop the war. Everybody else tried to and they couldn't. I just wish we got on board with the 30 hour work week that a lot
of Europe follows. That well, it's, it's, I think those are are obsolete because you think about because of comfort, because we have a lot more comfort. The 30 hour work weeks are obsolete. I think there are in many ways, because I think that most jobs, I would say 90% of the jobs out there are ridiculous. Yeah, they don't serve a purpose of making anything, but they don't really serve. Anything you mean it could be less than 30? Totally.
Yeah, totally. And that just mean in American Society where it's 40 plus hours. Well, I think it's going to change. I think it's going to go back to less. And the reason why is because there's less emphasis on higher education. Now more than ever, more people are saying don't go. You know, the only people who press it. Old people. Banks. And old people. Because they, they came from the generation of shut up and do what you're told. Yeah, Generation X came in
going. What the fuck did you guys do? I grew up with Shut up and do what you're told too. Oh yeah, no, I, I I grew up with those people from that one, but I also had extreme rebellious all of my siblings do extremely rebellious and not conforming to that constantly in trouble with authority like because we just didn't agree with a lot of those things at that time, but. A lot of it doesn't necessarily make sense always. But it's soft it it's just comfort, man. I mean, honestly, we traded.
We traded our ambition for comfort. Because you think about it, it's like in your dad. Your dad worked so hard on tons of shit is back so fucked up. He's in pain all the time and yet he's never spending time in this extravagant home. It's a waste. It's a waste not to oh so many families could live their bird. No, who cares about that shit? It's a waste because what are you doing it for? And it's because of comfort you. It's he almost looks like it's primal in him going fuck this
comfort. I have to do something. It's that deep seated and it's like our friend that I won't mention his name on air, but our friend who has no purpose whatsoever. You see that dullness in his eyes? I mean, it's fucking evident, dude. It weighs on him heavy. That's why we're like in such search of like jumping fucking cold water. This is fucking hard. We are. It's almost like our souls are saying like quit being such a fucking pussy and do something
hard. Which is interesting too, because at the same time, so many of us quit when we do try something hard, you know, so it'll be like because. There's an out, yeah. There's an out no. If you have the attitude, nobody's coming to save you. Nobody's coming to save you. You've got to do it. I don't think many of us have lived in that world. No. And and you know what happens right after you get there? Who do I trust? Who do I trust? And that's going to be based off
of friendship. The friendship you only I feel the hard part if if not is like my dad's generation, that one with it. Yeah, he has no fucking friends. I know because he feels like. He is just alone and so it's cool to have this like really hard toughness and that, but at the end of the day he is alone. Yeah, but you, you look at cultures and and back in the day, I mean, I'm not going to go like into the Spartans. And I mean, they've got really fucked up things in their culture.
But the thing that they did was that hard times were also celebrated. You look at the Vikings, hard times celebrated. Oh, yeah. Almost every society up until the industrial age was strong together. Communities were strong. Families were strong. You didn't move away from your family. You're going, well, I'm going to New York to make something of myself. That's why I think my whole family is still here. I think that's it's a common. Grew up with like we worked hard
and we'd play hard. We'd go 4 Wheeling and boating on the weekends. We do all this stuff and be totally exhausted, but like we would work long hours all week long and do all of that and it was, I don't know, I think that is you kind of if you do that type of thing, you have to celebrate sometimes because otherwise. They go hand in hand, Yeah, but look at your your dad's a prime example because he doesn't have somebody to celebrate with that
he wants to celebrate with. Even though he'll go on trips, but he doesn't even enjoy his time. He just. Chooses not to. It was like, he spent all this time on his house and doing these projects, and then he misses stuff with the family and that. And then he's frustrated, like, oh, don't get this time with the family. Well, you choose not to take the time with the family. But I've appreciate it. Like, it was fantastic. I loved that he came and helped me.
And he's always there when I need him. When it was like, Dad, my water heater, it's leaking. Yeah. He's like, oh, we'll replace it Monday. OK. All right. And so we went out and spent the day. And because this home is old as fuck, it took way longer than it normally should. Have Oh yeah, you had to make a bunch of shit. And it was like. Oh my.
Gosh, this is just so much fun. But you know, like, I do enjoy that and that connection with him, but it's this realization of like, and how many of us are in that position and are just still so alone. Like we want that human connection but we don't know how to do it because all we are is just. So I need to be doing. This well, because I mean, even your dad is a prime example of that one. Why do you need a house like that? Why did he need to redo all the
house? And you come up with a million things, but it's vanity. All of us are driven by vanity in one way or another. It's the clothes we wear. It's the things we do, places we go, but sometimes we start to just where we start to associate like like the shitty restaurant that has a ball hole in the window, right? And that's just an example. But like, if that was our spot and it was always 750, it wouldn't matter because there's
a presence there. And that's what we have tried to do with consumerism is we tried to fill this gap in our of the dopamine hit of new and cool because we're just, it's like colors in nature. Do you think of a baby seeing a huge field of flowers and bunch of different colors? I mean, their minds would explode of this is amazing. And that's how we are with with things. We're like a toddler's mind when we get a new phone or something.
But how quickly now the new phone was like the coolest thing in the world. Now it's just like, here's what I don't like. Wow, wow. Like. I mean, it's fine. Like it's not this and it's not that. What a great, what a what a marvelous time of technology we live in. And it's going to come to an end. It's going to come to less, not the end, but it's going to come to the end for a lot of countries. And the reason why is because the lot of them can't survive without us.
And we overextended ourselves, but we did it to ourselves. And as shitty as it sounds, yeah, we shouldn't be the police of the world, but we kind of took the job and we said we would. And I know we're done with it, but it literally is, dude. Like, honestly, just those three days being off social media, I was like, man, we would all be a lot happier if we put that fucking thing down. It was interesting when I had, gosh, what was it?
I had deleted like all of this stuff off my phone and it was all on the other recording phone at the time. And I had found that I had even gotten rid of Facebook because the apartments rented. I didn't have to worry about anything And I would find myself sitting down and I'd like open my phone and then I'm opening my e-mail or I'm opening like Amazon. I'm like what in the fuck am I
doing? And I'm like, I'm bored and I don't know what to do and instead of like going and finding something to actually focus on, I'm like sitting there realizing man, this is what my brain does all the time. Like how many times a day is this actually? Happening, yeah, I found myself gravitating towards it, pushing the app and going, yeah, what am I doing? Exactly. And that was exactly my thought. I'm like, why? Why am I here?
What am I coming for right now? What is this that I'm trying to achieve or get out of this? And I'm like I'm bored like why am I bored? Am I trying? Like am I not working on something I should be? Working on. Am I like, am I feeling like I should be working on something? And so I'm struggling with just being relaxing. Like, what is it that's going on that I'm, you know, is there something I should be doing right now? It's just this really weird
feeling. And I find that like a lot of those apps on our phones are just escapism. Well, and here's The funny thing, they're bought and paid for by us because of that new feel, that toddler esque mind that we get. Because what we wonder about is so captivating about stories and connection. And you want to know why movies are so shitty? You want to know why books are so generic and coming out so crazy fast? It's because we've foregone
connection to comfort. It's uncomfortable to go out and meet new people. It's uncomfortable to be let down. It's uncomfortable not to trust others until they earn that trust and it's. It was like last night I went and hung out like I. Random. I don't normally go hang out with people often. I hang out with friends, like a group of friends occasionally when we do a get together because like, hey, I haven't seen anyone in a handful of
months. Let's we should do a get together And then I see you and we play games online and we talk on the phone every day and like. We're really connected. But aside from that, most of the people I don't actually physically ever see, I don't hang out with them very often. And so last night it was like, I went and hung out with a new guy. We were just friends, like, but
it was new. And it was still this awkward, kind of like we smoked, but it was still this like trying to figure that out and find that connection that that community. And it was interesting, 'cause he grew up in Iowa and he's out here now. His family was Mormon. He's not anymore. Were they like nice? And he was like, oh, they're like nice to your face. They're not really nice. They're just was like, oh, I get it. That's OK. I was like, do you feel like you have a closer community now?
And he's like, no, not at all. I'm like, and I kind of thought about it. I'm like, it makes a lot of sense because I feel like once you leave that community, there is no community and you are almost kind of feeling like you're alone unless you unless you build 1. And that's what I was trying to do initially. I feel like when I was doing church on Sundays was finding like minded people that I could hang out with, that I could
build this community with. And, you know, I think so many of us just want that, that like real connection, that, hey, where's people that I can trust and feel this connection, this similarity with this like, hey, I feel safe here. Yeah, there's not enough those spaces anymore. And the reason why is that everybody's too fucking afraid to do it to start something and the fear of it's not going to catch on. It's like what you said right
there. And and I the funniest thing that I will say about what you just stated about I like Mormon wards and stuff like that. Or I've been in both of them where I've been in in extreme poverty when I was a little kid and how they treated my father and my family not very nicely. Then when we got to lower middle class, they're they're still kind of Dicks. Call me a speck. Made fun of my dad, you know, behind his back. All the guys there prejudice as shit.
And then my grandfather died and we move way N Orem in the nicer areas and I'm near the nicer, richer schools. Yeah, and totally different. Really. Slightly elevated old Bishop. I mean this guy thinks he's Jesus is a Carpenter. Fuck, hell, shit, you could be squishing limes for all I know, dude. It doesn't make you closer to Jesus, you fuck. Anyways, that guy was an asshole. He was a fucking asshole to my dad. He was a Dick to me. And my my dad was kind of in the church. My mom too.
At the time, I wasn't. I'd left when I was like 11. Yeah. And I had no desire to go back. And it was because of that. Now Fast forward many, many, many years later. I'm married, have three kids at the time, and we're going up in Hobble Creek, extremely wealthy Ward. Yeah, I was in between jobs right when I got there and the elders corn president gave me a job like on on a Sunday. I was working a graveyard. I used to work at this like a methadone clinic. Yeah. OK.
We're taking care of rich people that abuse drugs and alcohol, and they get detoxed and then we send them up to the expense of the lodge that's here in Utah where all the celebrities go. So we would get like, high net worth individuals come into this. You would never guess. It looked like part of a strip mall, but inside was a medical facility. And I would do that at night. And it sucked. And Steph was so mad, she ran into the elder clone president. She goes, hey, you own rock
company. And he goes, yeah, hey, you need to give my husband a job, and he needs to make this. And he goes, OK, can he, can he start tomorrow? Yeah, he's sleeping right now. He'll totally start tomorrow. If she would have done that in another war, she never felt like that in the other one, the ward, we, we had some issue that was like in between that one dude. So many people are like, can we help? Can we help? Can we help? And was crazy that these communities have a lot of wealth.
They don't experience opportunities to serve one another. And so they want to help each other. It's fucking weird. Even upon Grandview, like never got that feel up there. Everybody was Sunday faces. There was a few. The most, yeah, the most part, like. Just a bunch of. There was little. Fucks yes. And I that's where I spent 90% of my life was Grandview. And yet so there was the handful of ones who were just but you find them everywhere.
Like total people who were just like the kindest, best people in the world. Mormon or not, yeah, good people. And then most of them are judge mental fuck tarts who just are hey. Oh, but you think about it. Like grandma grandpa's generation, the way you had value was the public perception of what value was. Hard work, Family oriented education. Lots of children education. Yep, this is the things that owning a home land, Yeah, so important. Are you musically inclined?
Yes. How well read are you like? Dude, seriously, Like it was all about that. So you take a generation who says I don't know about that, and they go, wait a minute, this is the way it is. And they beat it into their heads when they try to change. Like your dad's generation. My dad's generation, dude, they were during like the flower power time. They could have been, like, my dad's in his 70s. So, you know, in understanding, like, where they came from.
I get why they look down on these other people because to them, the way the value was perceived was hard labor. Yeah. Work it is. And being on YouTube or anything like that, I still don't agree that being person like Logan Paul creating garbage is a way for you to make money. But that just shows where our people have gone to. We are, we have, we are comfortably numb. We are comfortably numb.
We don't give a fuck. And it would take a collapse of the global system where we have to focus like you'd said, who's gonna work in these factories? A lot of people will because those will be the high paying jobs. If you think about it, you'll. Have to be able to run the robots and everything else anyway. Even if you don't have robots like it's you you look at. Annual labor is one of the highest paid jobs right now
aside from like. Dude, electricians, you take 10 years ago, they're making three times more now. That's nuts. Yeah, like this, that this woman used to live across the street from grandpa. She's like right on top of the hill. And then Davis's. No, no. Old house. I think it was Davis's. Yeah. Ages and ages.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So their daughter, who is going down a path of debauchery and being ran through by millions of dudes, she ended up hooking up with this one guy, Kid 23, electrician, dude make a bank, He's working at the airport. Good for him. And but he, he, I had asked him, I met him once, I said, hey, why did you do this? And he goes, really wasn't thinking it, but had a lot of really good mentors. Tell me go do this, you'll be OK. Yeah. And that's where I'm pushing my kids.
I'm like, go to trade school, learn to trade. It's huge honestly you could make so much money still doing that. And even like when? Isn't it funny though? Like the roofing company. And it was like a realization of holy shit, a monkey can do this and a monkey can make how much? Well, if that can happen, then why can't any capable person do this? And it all comes to comfort, man. That's why people go like, I have to have a job that gives me an hourly wage. Commission only is hard.
It is tough. I've only done that once in my life and that was the hardest summer to go knock doors and do that, especially when it's Commission only. And I had an entire week of bagels and I was like, cool. I made no money this entire week. I spent my whole week busting my ass working hard knocking doors. And it was the hottest summer that Kentucky had had, and it was the highest humidity. And so that was the hottest city in the nation. And I was from Utah.
I'm not used to the fucking humidity. Yeah, I went to Cancun for a week and a half, but not for an entire summer. Not walking and not worse. No. And so that was like the worst. It was so horrible. I'm like, Oh my God. But you think back to. That time so you. Were getting creative about what you fed yourself, what you fed your family, what you did. Entertainment was like the last thing on your. Mind. Oh, I had no time for entertainment.
My time that I had. Was either knocking or worrying. Sundays. Sundays was my time, and that was well, I'd spent my entire week working, so I'm going to fuck off at the pool. I'm going to sleep and I might watch a show. That's my weekend, or I might play a game, but that was it. Yeah. And that was not very many hours. Plus I had a wife and a kid out there. So it was like, well, that's like, we hung out. We did all this, but I was 6 days of the week.
I was out knocking doors for 10 hours a day, basically 8 to 10 hours like. Selling shit that people don't need. And that's the thing, it's like they if they want it, they'll they'll be motivated to do it. Oh yeah. And I mean, it's, it's just so funny where comfort is something that pushes us into a deeper
decline. And that's why I say like, you know, if, if when I'm not doing OK, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, like a, a governor now for me, where working out takes precedence because of it will push my body to accomplish something. And so I want to keep accomplishing more. And if I can just get a little bit more out of it, then I go, well, I could do a little bit
more here too, yeah. Right, Well, with mental health and that one of the biggest contributing factors to us having healthier mental health is movement of the body. So 100% doing that and allowing yourself and doing that movement probably is what allows you to go, hey, oh fuck, I can now do this or this or this and and have that. Because like when we're not OK, it's so hard to have any type of motivation to go, oh, well, I can do this.
Or, you know, feeling overwhelmed can come way easier. Why would we want to do anything physical anyways when our lives are so convenient indoors where we can just get online and play right and that will work. And I. And the only counter I would have to that is we are starved for connection. I saw this incredibly sad video. It was a while ago too, because I jumped off of Facebook for a while and Instagram and all of it and YouTube. But it, it was a video I went back to.
I just wanted to look at my saved ones because I was off. But I, I didn't even spend very much time in there on Monday. I spent a total of 13 seconds on it. Oh, yeah, it was this clip and it was this woman who was crying. She says I just want to kiss somebody. I'm, I am, I am touch starved. I can't, I don't care. I'm thinking about getting on apps again just to hook up with somebody because it goes, hey, you're good looking and I'm good looking, good touch.
Yeah, yeah, we are starved for that. And what we're starved for is that connection piece. And because we have outsourced our communication to devices to somebody else coming up with the narrative and us agreeing with them, we spend less time just trying to connect with other
people. I I try to connect with people on all sides of the aisle, even though like, you know, I've got brother who is just like his belief in his political view is so hard that if anybody doesn't agree with them, you're automatically on the other side. And yet, even though I don't agree with him on a lot of points, I'll still reach out to him. Like on Father's Day, I said a fucker. Just wanted to say your daughters could have done better. Love you, dude. Let's get together, have
laughing lunch and laugh. And he goes, bruv, Thank you. I just learned by watching you and did the exact opposite. It's just like that's my family's way of saying I love you. Like it's very like I'm a very affectionate very my family is not. I have to force it out of them. Hey, I love you. My sister and Melissa won't say I love you very often. That's funny. Even talking to my dad, I feel like I'm the one often saying I love you.
Yeah, me too when I hang up. But that's just because almost every person I talk to, because they're people I'm talking to, right? They're people I care about. Yeah, but why not? Like why wouldn't I tell them why? Not tell you I love you man because you know what it does dude, like it's it's that thing like, you know the thing you start doing I do is is thanking
people for being there. Well, no matter what it is, because even though it's a shitty job, the reason why it's shitty is because they have no purpose. Because they know it. They know what they're doing is not purpose filled. They know it's just a way of fucking yeah, just your existing and the reason. And what do they sell you for your inspiration? It comes in plastic and it sits on your table and it has controllers. It's cool, but it becomes the
focus for people to connect. It's the only reason why. That's why multiplayer games are way bigger than individual story games. Honestly when I games for the longest time I really only liked playing with others. I didn't play to just play a game on my own. I played to have fun with friends, like to joke and laugh and like. And games were for those random moments, yeah, where you're by yourself and going. I don't really feel like a book. I don't want to watch a movie.
Let's get in this game. Hopefully it has a story. See, I never grew up with that because. I didn't either, so I wasn't. I mean, I had it. I wasn't allowed to touch it. Mine was the books and so I was like, all right, well, looks like my story books until I graduated high school and then it was like, I don't want to read another book and I didn't for years so. Funny, right after high school is when I started reading. Yeah, I never read in high school.
I was like fuck this. Oh, man, yeah, that was that was all we did was. But I can imagine, you know, growing up in Nazi Germany where you grew up and they're like, what are you doing? And then like at night, our bedtime was super early and I. All cloaked with Jesus too. I remember going to bed and like, hiding under my covers with a flashlight reading books because if my mom saw the light and knew that I was reading, she'd get mad at me.
But yet I'd stay up reading at night because, well, I couldn't fall asleep yet. And. It was just something and you found an ability to be able to be fond of it. You just didn't like being forced to do it. Yeah. And that was the problem was I had gone through school where you had to read whatever they wanted you to read. Didn't mean it was a good story, well written, whatever it was, just whatever. And they wanted you to gather what they wanted you to gather from the story, correct.
And that was it. Well, that's not why I'm reading a book is to learn what you want me to learn. I'm reading a book to gather whatever the fuck I'm going to gather from this book. See, I, I knew like back when I was in second grade, I remember this very vividly. I had this teacher. I had a separate English class and we had four computers there, Green screen, big fucking tube thing, huge keyboard thing and then they. Ask computers. Right. I mean, these were the first ones in this school.
They only had four. And they told us we had to write a story and tell it in front of the class. OK. And this teacher was awesome. And, you know, I procrastinate. I've always procrastinated. I'm not going to say like, I'm just lazy. I just procrastinate. I'm often been. Until last minute, usually. And that's when some of my best work comes out. And when I got in front of the class, all I had was a blank piece of paper. And all I remember was the teacher's face was just smiling
the whole time. I don't remember. The whole story was about Superman. And at the end, he's like, can I have that? And I said, yeah. And it's a blank piece of paper. And he started laughing. He goes, you made that all up? And I said, yeah. And he goes he he wrote an A on it because he was like, man, if you could do that now, Yeah, what could you do later? And nobody who gave anything to that I wrote all growing up. Yeah, a lot of poetry to girls.
I wrote a lot. Surprisingly, I wrote like this long ass story in 6th grade and then because. You you wanted to explore. Yeah, and then there was history in junior, freshman or sophomore year at temp, you and I didn't care for school. I didn't like my teachers. I didn't like. It was a whole new school. I didn't pay attention at all. And then the test came around and there was an essay question on tell me about the Civil War and what happened. I'm like, fuck, I, I don't
remember what she's asking for. Like I don't remember these dates and all this stuff. So I'm like, I'm going to write a story and I still remember the story. It was about Chungo the elf and how he helped the the Confederate army to win the Civil War. And so now we held Texas and she wrote this big F on the top of my paper because I had absolutely. But she was like, great story though.
To my ever remind me of my brother when he was in he was finishing up his bachelor's and he had a sneaking suspicion that one of his professors wasn't reading his papers. But he always got an A Oh shit. And so he purposely wrote in the middle of his argument about Smokey the Bear and how how the world had fucked up not paying attention to him and how he went on a killing spree. All this shit he put in there,
dude. And he turns in the paper and then they get it back, back when they were still doing physical paper and he got an A on it. And he goes, hey, professor, just wanted to ask you a few questions about my paper and go, oh, yeah, yeah, what? What's up? What you think about my paper, Rafa? One of the best. It's awesome. You do great work. So I love reading your stuff. He goes. Yeah. What did you think about the metal? It was a good balance. Really.
Can I read some of it to you? And he started reading it and the guy starts laughing. He goes by TA Reddit but I already told him that you do great work so who cares. Oh, that's hilarious. He's like, all that time I'm like, yeah, dude, all that time going to class, putting in the fucking work for nothing. Yeah, because he was just like, yeah, he's good. But you know, my brother never did anything with that. Never did anything with that.
It's like your. Brother talks, you know, we because it's, it's like no one teaches you to follow that spark of creativity of like, hey, you were really brilliant at this when you were little and it just came naturally and you didn't even realize it. And instead of just pursuing it because someone believed in you and saw that and pushed you to follow that because they're like, you would do amazing things like this and you would really fucking love it because
you did it effortlessly and it felt like nothing. You know, and the hardest thing for us, I've been kind of contemplating why I feel like I, I can't lift off again. And, and the biggest contributor was that when I went to Fun Launch Partners, You guys want to check it out, Fun Launch Partners, I'll put a link over there. The reason why it was so great was the guy who was running was talking about all the things that he did, all the risks that he took. And yeah, he's wealthy, but he
doesn't care about that. He talked about how his friends changed against him because he became successful. They he would wanted to get together with him and they treated him differently. They weren't as nice to him. And he's still every once in awhile gets together with him.
But he's like, when you change your mindset of you can do anything you want, there's going to be a lot of people over there who are angry and will treat you different because they don't understand why you can do it and they can't. Because they feel like they can't do it. Exactly. They're not allowed to because of. But they've been told not to. They've been told not to go. All of us.
Yeah. And when we push against it like all anybody wants to say, and it's that comfort part, they're like, hey, just comfortable salary, same thing five days a week. And the older generation, they don't understand that you guys fucked us. You fucked us to the point where we can't. We're paying more money forever aging population to a live. And it's not saying it's bad. It was just a bad program.
And so but we pay for it. Are my son, your kids, you know, getting to working age, they will pay for it. They will pay for their retirement. And when they get upset going, well, I paid into the system. So did we. And we're not getting it because the reason why it's going bankrupt. It just can't sustain if if we can shift our focus more towards connection, you know, communication.
That's why I got so I I, I honestly, dude, it was such a even though I'm dipping my toe back into marketing, I'm doing it from a different purview. I'm not looking at it from how can I manipulate, but how can I inspire? How can I help somebody realize that they could do something like these this hair, the Cosmetology Institute. I might be working. With really shortly. Yeah, yeah. Like, they've got a goal. Like, we just want to help people create a better, better
life for them. So, you know, hair care was one of the most expensive things in history. Wigs. Oh yeah, hair. So it's like. Well, I mean, we've talked about it, Yeah. Art, women going, getting their hair done. It's hundreds of dollars usually, but that's. So it's totally worth, I think it's worth it, you know, because there's this feel. It's just that's how it is. Though, and there's attention to detail, there's. Skill involved.
It's an art. It's like going as a tattoo artist or something, and you're like, I want you to turn me into some creation, make me look however. Well, OK Well, any monkey can cut your hair. Yeah. Yeah. But if you want your hair to look nice, you want it to look really good, well, you go to someone who's a really good artist. Yeah. Because they understand the actual art. They understand OOP, the symmetry of your body.
Shaping and maybe way that your hair moves and going, hey, would you be OK if we tried this different style because your hair actually like they might understand way more of your hair than you do. I wish there was ladies like that when I was growing up. I need to cut my hair because it was always like, me too. Yeah. Van Damme has that haircut. I want that haircut. Like, your face isn't built for that. You have a square head, Jesse. Like no, no. No, see, mine was never that. Mine was.
Aunt Michelle knows how to cut hair, so she's here. She's going to cut your hair. OK, well she taught me how to cut hair, so now I'm going to cut your hair. And that was my haircuts until I was. You've been cool, Dean. The floby. I think I got my first haircut at a salon when I was 18. Not me, my parents wouldn't even dare touch it. I I if if they knew I how much I like being bald, yeah they would have hooked that shit up a long time ago.
Probably cost them one. Clippers last them like 6 years. Right. Especially back then, dude. But it is that dude. It's it we we have. We've allowed ourselves to be comfortably numb, and it's not like some big conspiracy. We bought into it because we like comfort. We just enjoy comfort too much. Pink Floyd has a song on it. It's been around for ages. Comfortably numbs. Not anything dude. Can we can we put the link down below for that? We can throw a link to it. Let's do that.
Also, somebody asked about the comedian. I don't. Remember, I put it in I, I went and found it this morning. Which was it? Which comedian? Maddie Smith, I think. And it was the one that was like, oh, I don't trust people who? Yeah, that one was. It was really funny. So I did. I put the link in it. That episode is San Fernando Valley on. Gib San Fernando Valley.
So if you guys want to check that out also for those who had gone and bought us a coffee, they closed that account because apparently they don't allow cannabis products or creators on their platform. So we're back on Patreon and I realized we can build more of a community there. We can have more conversations and we can connect with you. There's actually a chat that we can have what? Yeah, built into Patreon so we can have an active chat just for
the. Community so cool instead of just going through the comments and stuff like that we. Can go directly through and we can also still post on there have other posts, but there's a direct chat that we can have hey and for a community chat. If you're in there, start throwing ideas into there what you would like to see, people you'd like us to interview because we'll try, and then topics that you think are cool because you know we want to.
Grab a message from Abe about a new episode topic. So we'll throw that in. Yeah, I like it. Messages Wesley sent some happy Father's Day messages. Love you, Wesley. Guys, happy Father's Day. I mean, it's past, but happy belated to all of you fuckers. Who are all of you motherfuckers? Yeah, yeah, and for those who aren't paying child support, well, hey, don't worry about it. Get back to it when you can. But anyways, no, guys. Hey, we love you guys.
Great being able to chat. What do you think about today's conversation? We're going to be having guests here very soon. We've got Johnny Ritchie from Rockwell, but he has got this crazy life dude from Nitro Circus. Oh my God, yeah, I remember that because they were big into that. The I think Rockwell has a monster truck now, so well, let's see if we can go up to Woods Cross and get some photos on that. That'd be. Cool. Yeah, that'd be cool as hell, dude.
Well, hey guys, until next time. Catch you later.