I'm Brandon. And I'm. Jesse we're cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations with everyday people, cannabis companies, celebrities and your mom. Welcome to the sesh. Welcome back, kids. So we're going to be talking about, well, we're going to be talking about why things suck in quality and possibly where we might be going next. So Brandon and I were discussing right before we got on was about
the quality of products. And, and we tend to blame China, you know, like, oh, this is any product from China. But you know, to be honest, I don't think it's that cut and dry, man. You know, I mean we talked about it, the quality back then you were talking about like intricate carvings and wood and wood being wood like those were I. Just looked at like, so I've got two dressers or in it, a night, a night stand and a dresser. And these were made by Grandpa Holt.
Now Grandpa Holt was not a master Craftsman. He was a woodworker. He was nothing along any of those. And yet this dresser and the night stand that I have from him that he made are way more intricate, way more detailed, way more handiwork that goes into those than anything that I've bought in the last 20-30 years from any other store. And I look at it and I go, why? Why is it that we've gone from the I want Craftsman, I want intricate work, I want delicate work.
I want something beautiful to hey, where's my McDonald's made table? Hey, where's my IKEA made dresser? Hey, where's my Burger King bed? Like we want it fast. We want it now, we want it cheap. But at the end of the day, we're you know, how many years into you bought that IKEA table and well, it's six months old, but the legs are loose and wiggling and, you know, things are falling apart.
It's the same with a lot of products nowadays, you know, like you said, how much of it is moving to China? But I wonder did that, do you think that started in the 80s that we were just like, hey, how can we find a cheaper method of doing this? Because so much like I think of when my dad was growing up, his dad like incredibly hard workers, a lot of like, hey, and same with your dad, it was like
a lot, a lot of hard work. And so where did we go from all of this hard work to like the products and the things that we buy don't seem to have hard work put into it. Often it's scraping the bottom of the barrel, you know? Well, and like, I was thinking about it too, like when I'd said that, you know, it's like Dad, when we start seeing like a lot of the mass products start coming out here into the 'cause I, I did a little bit of search on that one and it made sense.
So after World War One, World War Two, we were literally the only industrialized country that was still left standing. Yeah, the cut by country because we this during this time was more industrialized. You got to know that like in 19, in the 1950s, Mexico was barely coming out of where they were before the Industrial Revolution. They were still pretty old school for a very long time. My dad grew up. I remember when I was a kid visiting Mexico when I was 8 years old, and my dad's like,
hey, you going to take a shower? You can shower the way that we did. And I thought it was a joke and that, you know, there'd be a warm shower next day. Nope. It was in the backyard outside their door. And you saw a stall was like an overhang in a stall or dog. There's a giant pit bull named Terry with the head the size of a fucking horse. And then you've got the next stall is pigs. And then the next stall was your bathroom, the the shower. And there was a a drain in the ground.
There was some tile floor, old tile that they put there manually. Or was it like cement underneath? Almost like a cement thing, but I mean, it's old school cement, old, old. Clay and whatever they yeah, they make it out of. Kind of like a French drain underneath it to just kind of let everything go into the soil. But dude it I like. He poured water on top of me and he goes. Water on top of you. It's like a bucket and so like that's. Wild.
Yeah, that. I mean, I'm sure that they had a tub every once in a while, but that's the way they did things. He was poor, struggling. Country whole different world and that. Country was coming in literally it. It's not necessary. It's more like a Second World than it would be a third world today. But it was truly a third world at that time where they didn't have a lot of things.
Well, there's still probably sections of Mexico that are third world because when I went down there even there was still third world. But I was that's still been 16 years, 17 years. You also have to know that a lot of these countries, the socialist countries, communist countries, the disparaging from poor to rich is even wider than it is in the United States. I mean for us that are in poverty level in the United States, we're still considered
like upper class, upper middle. Any other like third world country? Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, 'cause when I see the cardboard lean TOS and that in other countries and and I've gone and locked doors in like Louisville, KY and other outskirts of there where it was just I'd never experienced a ghetto like that in the States. I'd seen it in other countries, but the United States, I was like, holy shit, this is rundown. This is people have tarps
covering holes in their home. Like this is, to me, it felt like Second World country, you know, barely above those third world countries where you're like, OK, they've got some form of shelter. You know, there's running water and power. But like there's like boards leaning up covering stuff. There's tarps covering half their roof. There's all these things. And I'm like, what? What is this? It's not the world that you or I grew up in, you know, even here.
Well, and that, that that kind of makes sense, you know, where you think back past, you know, with World War 2, everybody's decimated. And you really got to think about it. England was bombed like crazy by Germany. France, Europe was, yeah. All of Europe was destroyed, Italy destroyed. Like these places were completely just. Do. You got it. So here's my thought. Just popped in my head because Notre Dame. Notre Dame got burned down in the last decade or so, yeah. That's longer.
Yeah, but I got to see Notre Dame before that. I was in France back in. God, When did Alec graduate? Long time ago, 18 years, something like that. 19 years. But even then, I'm thinking about bombings, like how many of those buildings do you think were destroyed even back then that it was like, oh, they had to come in, rebuild refix because that's got to be such a pain even back in God. When did the World War 2 end? Late 40s or was it early?
1945 OK 19. 45 So, you know, I was thinking about that, but then I was also thinking about like, OK, well, when did Model T Ford come into play 'cause I know way. Earlier. Yeah, Mustang was the first. Mustang was 1964. So you know, we're literally 1015 years after the end of the war. Well, and that's funny too, you know that the Mustang was actually created the designer for the Mustang. You know why we have the horse on the Mustang?
A lot of people don't know this. This is kind of crazy. The reason why we have the horse is that the guy who designed it, was it one of the last in the actual horse cavalry they went to fight against like tanks and stuff like that or? World War. One. Yeah, he was a Nazi. What? Henry Ford was a known supporter of the Nazi Party big time. He donated a lot of money, a lot of the New York bank, stuff like that. They, they sponsored it because they believed in whatever they were doing.
It wasn't all like killed Jews. It was just a lot of like control and stuff, like it was just a slow onset that took over. Do you guys know what today is for us? Today for us is 710. By the way, happy dab day, happy oil day. I hope you guys are using some. Concentrate. Concentrate. I'm rocking the doctor dabber switch. I've been using some live resin batter Super booth this morning, just kind of yeah, getting the flash. I'm rocking some Pineapple Express in a live resin. Part.
I don't normally, but I'm in, I'm in a different location. I'm actually in my closet today. So I was just like, I'm just trying to find the best place to be quiet and wouldn't have any distractions. So this is perfect. Yeah. But to go back to what? What, from what I've learned about it, and I'll give the short summarized version, is that after World War 2, we've decimated everywhere. Pretty much everywhere thinks that we're going to turn into, like the next empire.
You think back to, like, England. If England took over any place or went into some area and decimated it, well, they just planted their flag, you know? Yeah, well, dude, I mean, think about all the. Places anyone. Rome, Kangas, Khan, any, any conquerors just like, OK, we're here now. Welcome back to home. But we didn't do that. We actually told everybody, hey, look, here's what we're going to do. We're going to protect the seas.
Because before that the the seas were just kind of open wherever you lived. A lot of people didn't transport certain things because of fate of piracy. Piracy is still around today, but at that time it was still pretty prevalent. And so the US said, hey, look, we're going to do, we're going to protect the seas because we have the largest standing Navy that's lasted compared to anybody else's and we're going to patrol the seas.
That made sense to me, understanding that when I served in the Navy, because why in the fuck am I going over by Southeast Asia, Australia into, you know, the Mediterranean? Why am I here? Yeah, and it's just going around and and naval ships will go out at the time, they'll go out for like 6 to 9 months and they'll do a full deployment. Usually six months is like a, a Westpac or a RIMPAC and Westpac meaning we're going West, RIMPAC, meaning we're going that
side you're going east is rim. No, that's not a rim. That's that's a Med cruise. Yeah, Mediterranean cruise. So it's a Med cruise and, and RIMPAC is something completely different else anyways. But when we would go out, it just kind of felt weird like, oh, we're just traveling around, right? Well, no, we're doing our job. We were supporting this policing effort that has been going on since World War 2. And during that time we told everybody we're like, hey, you rebuilt.
We helped real rebuild Japan, England, Germany, France. We went out there and helped them rebuild everything American scene. So we rebuilt everything. We we helped them rebuild. And then after that we said, hey, look, don't worry about it. You guys can start trading. We would like you to start selling your goods to us. So then they started to do manufacturing over in their countries, which still to stimulate their economy. And our economy was already doing great because we sold
weapons, bombs, munitions. We sold planes and tanks and everything you can think of. We sold it to other countries during the war because they didn't have anything. They didn't have the, the, the, the build up that we went into and we were planning for it well before, you know, Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor was an Army base that was attacked. It was in a Navy base or Marine base. It was Army, Army, Army Air Corps. That's cool. Crazy thing, huh?
Before the Air Force, it was the Army Air Corps. And after all that people started making stuff. And so when I started looking into is actually like the 19 like from the 1950s to the 1960s was made in Japan. So that's we start to see like the automotive. Ministry change back in the 30s, there's a term that was planned obsolescence and it was coined back in the 1930s and it was kind of perfected up through the 2000s. And basically that concept was why fix something for $100 if
you can replace it for 99? And so they started making things like, well, phones like iPhones where the batteries glued in versus your Nokia where you could put in a new battery. It became things of they used to send you, hey, well, there's a warranty and here's a, a user manual on how to fix it yourself. Now we get void if opened warranty stickers that are on there and a 12 month replacement period going, hey, well, you can swap this out for a brand new
one in 12 months. We've joined this landfill cycle versus the fix it yourself replace a part or you know, just keep this lasting forever. We went from steel cars and wooden tables and that to MDF and particle board and and like aluminum covered appliances and stuff too. So nothing lasts the same as it used to.
It's this whole mindset of like, well if you can buy a new one from this business, we can just make it cheaper and sell more products versus just selling a bunch of replacement parts. But then what do our landfills end up with? Like tons of just random unneeded shit. That's a year or two old like we used stuff. Yeah, no, I throughout my searching too, dude.
I mean, I, I was pretty spot on. The 1980s is when it really kicked off and it was great because I, you know, it's the disposable culture, it's what it's claimed as, right? And that's the rise of Walmart. If you think back to Walt Whitman, who I don't think it's Walt Whitman. Do you remember life before Walmart here? Or do you remember how long? I don't remember when it came in because it's like I, I don't know. The only places I remember as a kid growing up here in Utah was
down. On Center St. in. Provo was a Woolworth where the Nuskin building is. Woolworth was a It was kind of like Walgreens and you know it. It's funny because Chris Rock made a joke about a long time ago in the 90s, and he goes man out, out in the hood, you know, in in the ghetto, all you've got is a Woolworths. We didn't have a ball. We just had a Woolworths and the only thing they had in Woolworths was sneakers and baby clothes. All they thought we'd do was
running and fucking. That's funny. But it, it just, it literally dude, like that was the only place I have fond memories of that place because I, I remember I would get like Star Wars toys that were sold in the stores at the time, not because they were retro, because it was out and they just those movies just came out. And so I remember going there, getting that and and then there
was a Kmart up north. I remember I remember Shopko, I remember Sears, I remember the reams in the weird Dome one, I remember the reams on center. But like I don't honestly remember Walmart. If I I remember it was in there when I was like early teens, maybe even earlier than that. But the. Honestly, smaller one, the smaller one came in. When was that? It was an American fork, but it was the smaller ones off the
side. But even then, like I remember that even after the Navy in my 20s, like I remember seeing it there and now it's which is funny because my kid went to high school and that was the high school. The old Walmart had been turned into holy. Shit, you know, it's funny. I was Addie and I went and drove Alpine Loop and we were cruising through PG and we drove past the old Leahona building and I was like, you want to see where I went to high school? And she's like, what?
And I showed her and she's like that that was a school because it's literally like smaller than my parents house. Yeah, yeah, dude, totally. And it's it's kind of funny like you brought up Kmart and Dollar Tree apparent Dollar Tree started in the 80s. I didn't know that, but goods from China sold in large amount and the whole thing was just like you said, buy it cheap, replace it later.
The 1900, the the 1990s to the 2000s is when the factory world NAFTA, open trade with Mexico started happening. So you started to see like more mass produced products going out throughout the world. And I think that's around that time where we started to see the quality. Like I remember in the 90s, like the quality of things such as food and stuff like that was vastly different from when I was growing up in the 80s. And then you go on like it.
It's almost as perpetual thing. Like the more that we create, the more brittle and the more tasteless that things become. And 'cause our creation isn't for like, it's to make things more convenient and to make it faster. It's not to make life better always. It's to make money. It's 100% to make money. Which is unfortunate because there is so much room for development of products that make life better. Well, it's. Cheaper. Not just faster, but right, better.
And if you're having to buy something over and over and over, so then you're having to go to work, well, how many hours to buy something over and over and over versus buying something once? And I, and I was thinking about, as we were talking like, man, I bet, I bet your dad was the same as mine where you didn't go buy something new. You fixed it. Like how many of us grew up where our dad was fixing something often he wasn't going to the store and buying a new one.
He was fixing it. He was fixing this, He was fixing that. He was the man who knew how to do everything because you just worked on and fixed things because it wasn't you threw it out and bought a new one. You, you know, and that's we have this weird society that it's like that now it's, it's fucking, it's like dating. Hey, Tinder. Well, Nope, swipe, swipe. Oh, Nope, swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe. Like we've got a million options at our fingertips.
It's, you know, the, the ads I see for Carvana and it's like, oh, doctor, I have a problem. I can't stop scrolling. We'll just buy a car. Oh, and I'm like, but how many of us get that indefinite doom scroll of, oh, you know, whatever it is that we're doing? I'm like, man, our, our world has become so desensitized. I don't even know what I would call it, like broken. Bluntness.
Well, you think about it this way, like if you if you continuously feed yourself something that you know looks good, it tastes good, at least right now it tastes good. Then after a while it starts to lose. Like you could take the best way of being able to save. I remember Hostess doughnuts, the little doughnuts you in the morning with your coffee while you're going to work because you thought that was a good breakfast. And you put that in your body and back.
I would say about 10 years ago they were delicious. Now you'll put them in your mouth and you'll go, Is that wax? I feel that way with a lot of stuff now though, yeah. It feels weird and it's and they'll go, Oh no, it's a protection for, you know, preservation. But we had that before and I think that products they because the shelf like like bread, for instance, like the bastarization of bread.
Like if you go, you've been to, for those of you that have travelled to Europe or Mexico or any other place other than the United States, I don't know about Australia or England anymore, but it's all like real bread, real bread. And it doesn't stay on. Your shelf friends. They're like fresh bakeries. I had sandwiches all the time in Italy. I had pasta and pizza every fucking day. But I didn't feel like crap. But yeah, I can have the same thing here and I'm like, oh, I
feel like shit. Cool. Well, it's like what we we've talked about too, right? It's the addiction to comfort that we have like, you know that it's like that pondering I had the comfortable collapse, this idea that I had for like how society is moving into despair because of comfort. Like it's kind of fight. It's like nature self correcting itself because the economy is, is very much like nature in many ways. It's unpredictable. It will move at a moment's
notice. Everybody thinks that the, the, the stock market controls everything. No, it's all fake. It's all in these, it's all based on probabilities, possibilities, maybe more likely. And it's not just random stuff that the the companies that command the most, you know, it's despite like your goods like orange juice, coffee, wheat, sugar, like rice, those ones are huge, huge, huge, huge. Those are legacy markets that you can't buy into.
You have to be given it. But these new companies, they just don't provide any. They don't make anything anymore, You know, like if we talked about computer, if we talked about software companies, we could talk about dozens and dozens of. Softwares and hundreds. Right. But if you were to talk about the companies that can actually produce the materials to be able to run that stuff, Oh yeah, Now we're pretty small.
It's like when you learn who actually manufacturers the chips that go into like computers and you're like, Oh yeah, this is one company who does all of these or like all of this stuff and you'll go, OK, well it is. Or when you look at like who makes the food and, and who holds those? And you're like, oh, it's one or two big, really large companies who hold every company underneath these that are umbrella all the way down. But it is just really large, a
few really large ones. And maybe it's just been us as society, as humans as as pushing up for it, pushing it because I always hated this term. And maybe it's because it's always reminded me of my grandparents and my family, but keeping up with the Joneses because my grandpa would always growing up, it was always, he always needed to have the newest, best TV. He'd always had like custom ordered Cadillacs sent to his house, all of this stuff that I
was like, oh, grandpa's rich. That's what my mind told me. But then I realized and it was like, Oh, well, his friend Albert got, he sold his, his Benz and so he got a Rolls Royce. Well, grandpa didn't have a Rolls Royce. So then he bought like a $300,000 motorhome. But then Albert bought like a half $1,000,000 motorhome. And so grandpa bought like, you know, it was like all these things you're like, but that's
the same thing our society does. Oh, hey, I've got the new iPhone, I've got the new Apple Watch. Oh, look at my look at my Airpods. And people see that and they're like, oh, look at this brand they're wearing, look at this label they're wearing. Look at this piece of property that gives them value and clout and, you know, importance. Why? Why is any of this shit important? Why does it matter The brand, the label, the the power used to
it? Used to like, I mean, do you think back in the day where if somebody had a Rolex watch, you're like, dude, but now nobody could give a shit about your watch unless it's got cool electronic features and it attaches to your phone? Can it track? You can. Yeah, right. Can it take a picture? Can it do this? Oh, what's your heart rate at with it?
Can it do that? Oh, no. OK. You're so we're so consumed with with entertainment and it's in comfort that we'll even put our cell phone camera into a fucking sunglasses so we can always see because it it would be too obvious for me to hold around my phone. Now I want to record people in secret and it it literally is that dude.
It's we have comforted ourselves into a obese diabetic heart problem written losing hair like it's falling out on fire and having a really difficult time having kids. Like I don't remember ever a time. Where people have. Not everywhere. Everywhere. It is everywhere. Everywhere. I feel like America's like the leader in that, and everyone's just like following. They're like, hey, OK, America's doing it.
That must be cool, right? And that stems from World War 2, because when we say we came in, you know, yeah, everybody else helped out. But if Americans weren't been there, that shit would have been going on a lot longer. Matter of fact that the British wanted this involved way earlier. A lot of other the European like, please. And they're like, no, no, I don't know. I don't know. But we got in. That's when it changed
everything. And the reason why we were seeing this so powerful is we were able to fight three different separate wars in different theaters at the exact same time. In Kick Das, in Africa, in Japan, in the Philippines, in in Europe. We do. We were fucking it up, right? We were terrifying. The Chinese loved us. Because the Japanese, Have you met us? We're fucking crazy. Well, dude, that, that's a lot
of them. Like even during like I think it was Iwo Jima and stuff like that, they were telling the Japanese that they had to get insane people from insane asylums to join the Marine Corps. What the fuck? That they were crazy and they would come. After you. And then the reports from people that saw them, like other soldiers, they said no, they're not mentally ill. They're demons. They're terrifying because American Marines still to this day are by far the most scary
fighting force on this planet. Anybody can say something like spets and us don't have the manpower, don't have the craziness, don't have the Brotherhood. Like these guys are from a different era. These are like Roman Centurion. These are like Spartan guys, except without all the gayness. Well, not all the gay baby. I just, I saw the funniest video.
It said I had this lady and then I had a dude dressed up in military clothes and it was like, oh, so have you been saying, yeah, can you confirm that since 701775 that Marines have been helping fat chicks get laid? And it was like negative, negative, negative. Fat chicks have been helping Marines get laid since 1770. Five. And then he spits and he spits and do his coffee goes next question. Yeah. I saw that this morning and I just about died laughing. I was like, oh.
Oh my God, but dude, like you got to think about like why? And this this is a theory for me. So when did and it's just based off of like facts and stuff of the reason why the world was doing so well and everybody was buying random stuff, but it was still decent quality. I mean, I don't want to shit all over Asia over there, but I mean, you take the automotive industry, right?
Henry Ford, GMC, you know, Chevrolet, like you have all these big companies coming up. Detroit used to be the future city. Like Detroit was the place you wanted to go. Fuck LA, fuck Beverly Hills. You wanted to live in Detroit because that's where the money was made. And now it's. Dude, it's worse than base. Yeah, it's. Yeah, high rise projects, tons of crime. It's not a safe place to be. And it's not because, you know, the the people were completely ruined, is it?
These are generations of people growing up in these areas and now you want them to leave? It would be like for me living in Utah. So like for you, you're like, oh, I gladly leave here, but I I don't, I wouldn't want. To yes and no like I, I love the idea of moving outside of the culture. But for me, I also, I love the mountains and I, we live in an area that we are surrounded by mountains and for me to get that is really hard to find in
everywhere else. So yes, right I. Montana kind of seems, but Montana is like a ghost town too. Dude, there's nobody. In Montana, but that's because for me, I look at it and I go, I have just gone. I'd be okay distancing myself from the culture some and that doesn't bother me where you were still intertwined very much with that. I could see that, no, and your wife's family's here and her like all of that. So I get it. Like I totally understand that, but for me it was.
A lot of places. Oh yeah, I've just traveled places and I've only lived in Kentucky for like 6 months but that was still enough and I was like, it is beautiful Emily. In other places, I don't have to live here. Yes, I can live here, but I also might not want to live in this valley because this valley is also the pollution's gross. I think that's one of my least favorite things Now, the community, the people. If I don't, if you're going to be an asshole, I'm honestly just not going to care.
I'm probably not going to let it bother me and I'm probably just going to smoke weed and say boom, fuck off. I I don't really care. So whether it's in this valley or another one or anywhere else, I think at this time I've distanced myself away from the community that that's not the worst part. It's our air quality is pure shit. Whether it's summertime or winter time, I go outside and I look and our air is garbage.
And where I'm at is the, and where you're at is the busiest areas and they're still just continuing to grow. So I'm like, yeah, where I'm at is not necessarily where I want to be, is it? Bat? No, I'm 10 minutes from the mountains. You know, I'm 5 minutes from anything and like everything. And I can escape to there. I can do all of these things within that. So there's a silver lining to
that. But there's the other side of like, Oh yeah, but I'm also cluster fucked in the middle of town and and the air, I hate the air here because I've got not the best Oh yeah, dude, air pathways. So I feel that and I feel like that irritates my constant nasal drip and or perpetuates that. So I'm like, you know, for me, I'm like, how much nicer would it be to not live in cluster fuck Central to Utah, probably a lot better. So, well, no, no, no, I get that, I get that.
No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pulse back onto what we were originally taught 'cause we have to go off on a tangent there, but. Thank you, Super Booth. Yeah. No, here's my theory on on why we've gone backwards, the Berlin Wall, and I'll, I'll explain that. Once World War 2 ended, free trade opened up. That's when free trade opened up. Now countries were allowed to start being able to move mass exports outside of their country
in barges and boats. A lot of them are starting to get industrialized because America was buying things and then Europe started to buy things after they started to recover. And then everybody started growing and everybody was really cool until the red threat started to go away in the 80s. And that's when we started seeing like a lot more things coming out and then more cheap
products. And then we start seeing more like I remember there was a scare of like lead paint on kids toys in the 90s and when that started to come out, then you. Had the same as like asbestos and everything else. We have products that were used for a while that were just probably made without being tested with actual. Lead, not graphite. Yeah, right. I mean, these things were they were different.
We, I mean, dude, like you think back to the things that we used to do in the United States, there were these clocks that would glow in the dark. Do you know what they painted it with? Glow in the dark stuff? Uranium. And you know what they did with it? They brushed it on by hand. Women would do that. I guess there was still a lot of trade prior to World War 2, but it was more like colonialism and free trade, not. But not mass trade like where we're at now. That wasn't even possible.
Britain didn't trade with India, they extracted. Like certain places wouldn't actually trade, I'm sure. So maybe there's a more globalization of it because before it was more like luxury trading. This is now we live in the mass consumption. And I think that's what changed in the World War Two time is we got into mass consumption, you know, because prior to that we had the Great Depression, you know, not too long prior to World War 2 even, you know. Yeah, it was.
I mean, we were in it. Yeah. So, so you're looking at that and it's like, OK, well that wasn't that bad. And then right before that was World War One. And then, you know, how long before that was the civil? Like there's really a lot of wars that were in succession of just a lot of continuous, you know, people fighting around the world and there's still wars.
But like, I feel like there's been a lot of that changing that maybe 'cause that is like there was so much more consumerism that came into the world right after World War 2 that it just would have to expand, you know, the routes and everything that we've been doing. Because it became from just a, a luxury thing into this hole where we are now, You know, oh, I want 20 pairs of shoes or 50 pairs of shoes.
And I want, you know, your grandpa, my grandpa, there's no fucking way they would have had as many pairs of shoes or shirts or watches as. Like kind of being the superpower that it is today has not been very long at all. It's been very short time, maybe 30 years. And and the reason why was this over industrialization.
But the reason why I bring up the Berlin Wall is that we had this agreement with everybody in the world, like, hey, free trade for you, we'll protect you, we'll take care of you. This is before NATO and all that other shit. But then when we started to say also, but if you side with the Russians, we're not with you. Venezuela, Cuba, any other communist country, Vietnam, all these other places, we wouldn't trade with them. We're just like, Nope, you're
cut off. And because America was the biggest consumer, still is, then it started to be able to change. Well, now what we're seeing is it's going backwards and we are, you know, where they're like, oh, who's going to work these factories and all that other stuff. Don't worry about that. You see the push of robotics and AI, Don't worry about it. Don't even worry about it. Those will be taken care of. Like I heard the most interesting theory about Elon Musk and why he does all the
things that he does. And he's a really smart scientist guy and he goes, dude, that guy is he is next level genius. He's like, why does a guy who makes rockets use the Boring Company? The Boring Company digs tunnels underneath Los Angeles, they say, for mass transit. It's because he has a million different entities, I'm sure for a million different things, or at least a handful, but. Listen to this like you've got a company that digs holes underground.
You've also got a company that has Jet Propulsion. You have a a company that's. Developing research Inner Earth you can research space you can, you know, see all sorts. Of things about this, if you want to have some, he's got a solar company too. So if you want to go to Mars, who's going to build everything over there and where are you going to live? It's not going to be on the top of the surface. It's. Going to be underground. How are you going to build these
places? Well, you're not going to do it with people. You're going to send robots. Are you going to power everything? Well, you're going to do it with solar panels. So it's like solar and wind, because the winds are crazy. So it's like he was. They all make sense. With his long term plan, yeah, you just have to look, step back and see the broader picture. Cool. What he. But what?
But again, that makes sense because it's like when we've talked about, well, if we did this, we'd need this for this and this for this, and we'd actually do this. And it's like, oh, OK, yeah, that makes a lot of sense because and if you have that money, you would have that because it it makes, you can't have that narrow of a mindset
and have that much money. I don't think you because you have to have way too many moving parts, too many ideas, too many things you're working on building, creating. Otherwise you won't. You wouldn't have that much money. Yeah, well, and and I mean, but he doesn't. You couldn't. To like you, you find videos of Elon in the early 90s when he
sold one of his first companies. Like there's literally this video, if you could find it. I remember where Elon, like young Elon, he looks so goofy, super skinny. He looked like he was in oversized clothes and he was all excited because his McLaren was being delivered to his house. And it was the McLaren where it was like single seat McLaren was like almost like a race. Cam.
It was the coolest car at that time and he was so excited because he could buy that this guy bought Gene Wilder's house. If anybody knows who Gene Wilder, he's a comedy genius. And you go back and watch, see no evil, hear no evil. That's a funny ass movie, but in the 1980s. But Gene Wilder's home, like he, he bought it after he died and the seller was like, we'll sell it to you, but you can't change anything in the house. It has to stay the way the gene made it. And he's like, OK.
And then when he went through his downsizing because he doesn't, he lives in like pretty much a teeny tiny place and he just rents places. But he is just, he sold all of his homes, all of his properties, everywhere. He sold them all. He's minimalist because he just wants to focus on his stuff. That's why like when he started getting involved in politics, I'm like, no, go back to being an inventor. Don't, don't do this shit. This is this is beyond you. Like this is just squabbling.
Is it? I think it's Squid Games. Emily and I and Eddie were watching it, and there's a character who looks like Asian Elon Musk in it. Oh yeah, yeah, you could see that, definitely. But dude, it's the the problem that we have. Like after the Berlin Wall, nobody, nobody had to worry anymore because the red threat was gone. Russia was the the Soviet Union, not Russia, but it was called the Soviet Union for many times or the USSR. And that collapsed when that collapsed.
Became a problem. Yeah, because everybody was working with the US saying, hey, protect us from the big red threat because we had nuclear weapons. We're the only country that had actually used nuclear weapons in a conflict. No other country has. They've only threatened, but they've never done it. But because of the remembrance of what the United States did in Japan, everybody's like, wow. And we have bombs that are far worse than that now. And I just don't think anybody will. Do it.
Yeah, I just. I don't think anybody will do it because if they do it, it's mutual. Amount of destruction that came from that was immense, like it was so much. And to do that again, yeah. It's a double sword. It's, it's a double edged sword because you got to remember that Japan, Imperial Japan was, I mean, you want to talk about people who don't like each other, old Japanese and old Chinese people, they do not like each other. And there's a lot of. Lot of hatred in the world, yeah.
Well, I I would say. This even old. You, you take. I love the way where people like to put racism on white people, because I'll tell you, the most racist people are typically the people who are most racist against their own race. Which is hilarious. Racism everywhere, like even within like the Yeah, the same color to color like South America to South America. No, I'm in a different country, OK. You see it in religion. You're all fucking humans.
We're all fucking humans at the end of the day. We, we, we look for those imperfections and, and we use that to be able to judge based off of survival and everything like that. But dude, honestly, after that happened because nobody cared, They're like, well, we can do whatever. That's when people stopped paying like because there was tariffs that the United States had said like, Hey, you're going to pay us this and we're going
to protect everybody. That was the reason for it was to protect the waters so that you could. Feel, but if they're not feeling like they need that anymore because there's not a big fat, which is then it just funny it up. But that in I don't think that pushed because American consumerism existed before that right. Like what what do you think was our largest push that changed Americans? Because if we're the drivers of consumerism, what changed that
like in Americans? Was it the industrial era of like, hey, we've got out of war and all of these massive companies that have been created, we're like, well, we've been making weapons and this and that. So what do we, what do we build now? Well, let's make something that people can buy. And so then that's what changed like or what do you think that push was? I don't think it was there. I think the the push was honestly, it was the opening up
of mass production. I mean, we're talking like the 1980s where China started. China was the biggest producer of mass production products, and it's usually like plastics. Yeah. Even. Consumerism in America, I feel like started before the 80s, right? No, but it's it's kind of ramped up. It was higher. Quality, yeah, it was higher quality like. You. Yeah, I'm wondering what started. Yes, it was much better quality then, but our consumerism still was on the rise there.
I'm wondering what sparked that. Like what went oh, we can go. Farther back than that you go back to Edward Bernays cause do you think it was? The not having of the Great Depression to like all of a sudden, hey, we have enough money that we're not so starving and like, 'cause there wasn't money for for wants even in the Great Depression that maybe it
was. Now there is the ability to even consider a want because before there was like you, there wasn't the excess or even the money or whatever to have a warrant. It was like, well, that doesn't exist. You like you. Why even entertain that idea?
Because it's almost like fantasy versus now, you know, maybe there was a change in our entire economic structure of the Society of United States that it was like, hey, we went from this Great Depression where people are, I don't even know if I can have food today to hey, look, I've, I've got food. Hey, look, I've got enough for shoes. Hey, I've got enough for an extra pair of pants. Hey, you know, I've got enough for this. Like for this really cool thing they just put out.
I'm going to put a piece of art in my house. Holy shit. Like I'm going to get this woven rug because I can afford this. Like, I, I wonder if it was just that from the like, hey, we've got nothing. We've been. Well, you have to. Remember. Before. Before the Great Depression, it was a lot like now. It was mass consumption, lots of spending. Americans were lavish. We had the warring. 20s, yeah, warring 20s were huge right before the collapse.
Even in the 1930s inventions in the 80s and or the 18 like 1880s and stuff like the late 1890s look. At the World Fair in Chicago. Pictures of that crazy. And very, very elegant, very fancy, very decatent like types of things back then. So what? Yeah, that's interesting. We already had it. And so this is what it is. It's a precursor. It's like what we had talked about.
The common belief that people have is, and this is just my theory, it's that people, and I'm sure there's others that have the similar one, but history is not to be. You don't, you don't learn history, so you don't repeat it. That's inevitable. What you do is that you're hoping that you can be able to pay attention so when the signs start coming, you can start. Preparing. And you can live through that. Because you understand history,
right? And if we know history, then it's just going, hey, how can I prepare myself for what will happen? Because if history repeats itself and we've seen it happen, well, how do you prepare yourself for that moment when it does happen then? Well, because, I mean, right now the talk is that we're on the verge of economic collapse. We've been there for a very long
time. Our, our monetary system is been a Fiat system since Nixon pulled us off the gold, but we probably didn't even have any gold after that. I mean, the reason why we, we had that everything was based off of gold because it was the weight of gold that you would have to ship over. That's why. So if your country needed that, you would send gold over to. Them because this has been done. For centuries, for centuries on boats. And now it's all digital, so
there's no real. Like here's some ones and zeros. And that's why we get it, because of that, because we've been pulled off of that one. Consumerism is now endless. That's when I mean, you think back to the 60s and 70s, which is the heyday of marketing. Like, you go back further than that would Edward Bernays, who is the godfather of modern marketing or propaganda, which it still should be called. You know, wouldn't that be funny? Like, oh, what do you do? I'm a propagandist. Yeah. I.
Do I work on propaganda? What? Yeah, I I sell shit. I sell phones. I. Specialize in manipulating people. And that's what they do, dude. Like if. If you can say that I'm a master manipulator. What, Yeah, I, I specialize in manipulating people, in altering their emotional States and just kind of fucking with them and seeing if I can get them to notice they things they wouldn't normally do. Not peer pressure or anything you know, just you know.
We'll think about it, dudes, like all of the biggest products that are still here today were because of a way to to get the masses to believe that there's absolute value. Yeah, and it changes your life in one way or the other. Dude perfect example. Air Jordans. Air Jordans from when I was a kid. I remember watching. I used to love watching basketball back in the day. Oh yeah, but Michael Jordan and John Stockton. Scott Pudden, man.
Larry. Bugs. Yeah, David Robinson, Spud Webb. I mean, these guys, like, how do I know these things? Because these guys didn't live like the assholes like LeBron James. I didn't care anything about their fucking life. I only knew them on the court. That's it. Yeah, this is a random fact about Michael Jordan. He was a habitual gambler, Bad gambler and all.
Of that. Yeah, his father was killed on the side of the road by by a guy who stole his car, but they still speculate that he owed money on it. I mean, that's that's speculation, right? But the dude it it, it's because the one thing that what I love about history and why I've been so eager to learn so much about it is that it just keeps repeating. It doesn't matter when, whether it's guys with swords, guns or
iPhones, it's the same thing. And when we start to see it, it's a good thing because what happens after? That's what we got to think about every time there's been a collapse, there's a there's. A rebuild, yeah. And then there's something better. And the thing that we'll never get away from is monetary reason that that's just what our existence is.
We we base things off of a. Tangible life, like the talk we had yesterday of change and change is hard and change is growth most of the time so. Which is constant. And yes, but we like to fight it because we like, I don't like change, but yet everything in life is change and not allowing it to grow because it's like the moment of Hey, I don't want to do this or, oh, I want to be this version of myself. But I know that that version of me doesn't do the things that
this version of me does. And I have to let go of this version of me to become that version of me. Like it's the same thing in that going, OK, we know that this comes with history. And maybe we realize that this version of us is kind of broken and, and need some help and kind of fucked up and we're afraid to let go of this version because we don't know what comes with that new version.
But that new version let's go of our broken, shameful, fucked up version that we're hanging on to going, hey, there's a better version waiting. But we got a really broken, fucked up structure. So maybe we should start going to the gym. Maybe we should pick up an apple once in a while. Maybe we should, you know, put down a cheeseburger once a week and eat a salad.
Maybe we should drink some water every once in a blue moon, you know, Maybe we should put our phone down for 10 minutes and just go outside and touch grass like. Those are all really altruistic things, right? And and that's the it's not necessarily the problem, dude. It's just a symptom because you take the Roaring 20s before the Great Depression and the people were just playing fast and loose
with the stock market. That's what it was and everybody based it off of that and then when it collapsed. I wonder if they probably have the same restrictions back in the 20s on the stock market that they didn't have. It has to be a day trader to be a day trader because I feel like you have to have a certain level either you have to, well, I know you do because I tried to do it and it was like, oh, your fund isn't large enough. And I was like, oh, OK.
And they're like you have to have at least $10,000 that you play in on a day one, otherwise like in a funded account, otherwise you're too much of A risk. Well, the reason why it's, it's because you're, you look at it from an investor's standpoint to be accredited investor without any problems with, you don't even have to get a lawyer involved. These are some of the stuff that I've got to learn. Is to be an investor.
Yeah, to be an investor, you have to put like to be accredited, you have to have $200,000. You have to have a net worth of a minimum of $100,000, and then if you're married, it has to be a combined net worth of $300,000. So it doesn't matter if your wife or your spouse or your partner has a job, you just have to be a $300,000 combined. Yeah, yeah. Or you can be an unaccredited investor. Well, there's a lot of risk. There's no safety guidelines,
there's nothing to protect you. If you're accredited, you're, you're protected, you're protected. They there's ways that that money will be seen and, and, and liquidated, right? That's why. However, even if you are an unaccredited investor and you make really stupid investments where you blow $100,000, you can still write that off on your taxes as a loss over a certain amount of time. Yeah, but that's the thing.
It's. Not the same and you don't get it back the same, but you know it definitely. Helps. But just like that, when you brought up day traders, like the people who control the stock market aren't the traders, it's the companies and the speculation. I was just guessing that in the 20s they might not have had that same barrier to entry and that could have caused it because of Hey, so many people playing fast and loose and then it oh, hey, a lot of people lost.
But then that was what it when I looked into it, it was like, well, why in the crap does this exist? And it was like, oh, because a lot of people lost their homes, their lot, like a lot of their livelihood on it because they were playing fast and loose with everything. And I'm like, I'm not playing fast and loose. I'm making money on the little bit I'm putting in. But now you're putting on guardrails going, Oh, you can't do this. And I'm like, you guys are it's.
Because of that, it's because of. That because. It's so fast and loose and and now, dude, I mean, it's no different from today. Like The funny thing is, is that to give people everyday people, the idea that they could be able to make so much money off of the stock market by just investing their morning into doing it is absolutely asinine because those people who take. Takes a lot of. They're making money off of you. Well, they're not taking money off the stock.
Brandy did that for years. Oh yeah. And he did. He, I mean, he but he's done well in his life anyway. But I don't think he's made like astronomical life changing money on the stock market. He's just probably made a decent retirement that he's not had the stress from doing that. But so I do think that someone could, but the amount of time that you have to invest into that is still more than I think most people want to invest into
that type of thing. So most of those are like, Oh well, I just want to trade some or do this and it's like, that's fine, but just invest in a long term stock because most stocks
are just long term plays if and. Even then I. Pelosi follow Pelosi or you know, any of those and be like, all right, well, what are they buying and selling and, and do something like that, you know, because there's way better ways to navigate it than having to invest all your time and money, you know, and and energy into it.
But well, and you can see you. Like watch the stock market and the only thing you need to do is watch in the stock market based on what's coming out of Washington and when they make changes. Because I guarantee that the the speculation and trade, even for Pelosi has died down to a very, very small meow. Oh yes, because it has been cut off. Why would a company be like, hey, make sure this passes, make sure there's Bill Pat, throw this into the bill so we can pass.
And I'm sure that there were certain companies that got in the last bill. Every single one of them are because remember, there's opportunity. People are going to seek it out. Well, here's how you do it. Then. You just create an algorithm or a thing within chat that pulls the entire messaging of every bill that gets put into play. And then it searches for any company or any anything who would benefit from that.
And then it watches their stock within a certain time frame and then places, you know, investments in those stocks within that certain time frame and pulls them out within, you know, 306090, you know, and watches for dips within certain markers and. You know the other part too though, man, is these people who own the large companies, these are oligarchs. People like to call them millionaires and billionaires. They're oligares way beyond, yeah. They're oligarchs, so they they
live a beyond the law. And it's just, it's always been that way. It's not like, oh, we're in a better society. No, we're not much different from the Romans to. The oh, yeah, because we've talked about it. It's funny how often we were like, oh, the term serfs and then we were talking about how serfs were and how, how Oh, well, they were serving those ones and peasants were just people asking the the king or the Lord, Hey, help me to feed my family.
Let me come help work in your Kingdom or do something so you could give me some money. And, and that's very similar to us where we're going to these billionaires going, please, please, Lord, give me a job so I might feed my family. Please give me couple nickels so I can buy some grumpets. The whole if, if Bezos or Elon just took all their money and they just took half of their fortune to give it, everybody would have all the money they need and you would collapse the
dollar. You would collapse it completely because nothing would be valuable, nothing. And so that's actually a really good thing. Become valuable your skill set. Maybe. What what your skill set not as in like, hey, your is your body and well, let's ask about that. The big How many people do you think? Actually have skill sets these days. 6. Yeah, probably right.
I mean, you take people like I, I have a a guy that I know in my neighborhood, super nice guy, cool guy, full stack developer for many years, worked for this company forever. And he was told like, learn to code and you'll make money. And he did. Dude, he's got a crazy house. He worked his ass off. Good for him, Lost. His job just like that, just like that. And they're like, sorry, we're downsizing. And there was no loyalty, no nothing. And So what does he do now that happens?
Everywhere. He's in the medical field. Oh, that's cool. But does he like? Woodworking, yeah. Now he does, but the thing it's it's the difference over there is we well, I go back to this, this clip I saw with Jerry Seinfeld and he goes, when did it all become about money? It used to become about your cool job. You would ask a guy going what what is your job? And he would say his job be like, oh man, that must be cool. But you never talked about
money. If somebody asks like how much you make, we get by, we get by like and and you'd say that to a guy with a, a fucking Rolls Royce and a big ass motor home and stuff like that. Like you get by. Yeah, see, that was keeping up with the Joneses then was the things you bought. But it's no longer that. It's the amount of money you have. Like you got these crazy bitches online saying like I'm not going to date a guy unless. He's 6 feet. Tall. And makes sense.
He's 6 figures, yeah. And he's this average? Man, yeah, average male American is 44,000. That's the average income in the United States at this time anywhere. USA 44,000, dude. And it's this idea of just like what you were talking about. The more we we believe we have, the less we value it. And so where you remember when Biden bucks came out during the, the pandemic, like that's when we started.
Like there's a reason why you see a lot of those shitty Corvettes in places and I call them shitty because they but they're Corvettes. And it's like, man, if you couldn't steep any lower, you've got to you've got to copy an Italian automaker because nobody wants to buy your car stick the same thing. But they couldn't because they're addicted to the consumerism. Even the companies are slowly to Walmart.
Walmart used to be the place where the the founder of Walmart, his theory was stack it high and sell it cheap. Like he was the king of that. And then now it's like it's all about the money. What could Walmart do? Fuck Elon and and Bezos. What could Walmart do for the world? What could they do? Holy. Shit, they've already got the logistics in place. They could feed people, clothe people and give money. They they could.
Everyone's got, well, there's every large entity has that capability, but the problem is every large money it or they're in it for the money. That's it. But that's the thing, it's like the same. What is the value? What is the value? Of the money. Of the money, what does it do for you? Like you, we know past.
A certain point, nothing that. Have wealth or perceived wealth and you talk to them and they are sallow, shallow, materialistic humans that make sounds with their mouths but they don't really offer any value. You know, there was something I saw and it was what does someone who's absolutely poor, like bro comas have in common with someone who's incredibly wealthy? They both have too much time and absolutely like no purpose. They don't feel like they have value because it's what the fuck
am I? Like what am I doing? Then they're always just trying to find ways to fill their time to go Oh, here. And like we've talked about having friends going, Oh, well, I've got this money. So do people only like me because I've got money? Like, are they only here because of this? And then you distance yourself, and then you distance yourself from those people too, going, oh, they're only here for my money. Or is that all of them because
they have money? Yeah. And so it's our perception one way or the other of these other people. It's like it's such a weird, it's always the US and them. It's finding the differences instead of the similarities. Like, hey, what's different between you and I? How, how can I see what's not common ground between you and me? Like instead of going, oh, I wonder what we have in common. I wonder what you and I have that we have common ground on.
I wonder where we're similar. I wonder where our struggles are the exact same. I bet you're fucking anxious too sometimes, aren't you? I bet, I bet you feel sad, right? Do you ever feel angry like, yeah, all these these really simple basic things, like do you ever feel like you're like you're not doing enough? Do you, do you ever feel like you don't have value? Like how many things do humans as just a human to human basis we totally miss? Do you ever feel like you're not
being heard? And, you know, like, how many times do we just miss the mark with the person that we're sitting across from going what's what's different between us, you know? Well, I mean, that's, you know, for me and I'm not going to go off too far on this. Well, I always say that and then I go but. Welcome to the sesh. Yeah, welcome to the sesh.
And I would say like I've been pulled more towards the A, a model of Christ. And I'm saying that not Christian belief because I don't want to well, everything every.
Denomination something. Yeah, no, I just based off of of what I got in there, like what was one of the cool things that I read about within the Bible, And that was when Christ would say, don't take anything with you, don't take food, don't take money, Just go out and be with the people and you'll be, you'll find that like when you go out there and you befriend people. Like this is the reason, like the Marine Corps, let's use the
Marine Corps as an example. The Marine Corps is by far one of the last true brotherhoods on this planet. And the reason why I say that is that a Marine, if he meets another Marine, he will do anything for him. Like if James met a Marine that was down in his leg, maybe he might help him depending on where he's at. But I've seen Navy guys shit all over homeless dudes. Like I remember very distinctly, I was coming back from MEPs signing up in Salt Lake, had to go stay there overnight and piss
in the morning. And then like, it was funny, even the recruiter was telling me he's like, hey, there's a couple of cute chicks here. So look, if you bang one of them, make sure you piss right after because you don't want that semen in your in your urine in the morning. And I'm like, good to know I didn't never even crossed my mind, only a sailor's mind. Hey, buddy, if you fuck her, make sure you use a robber, you know? But that's exactly how they were with everything.
But I remember we were driving back and we were getting off the freeway to get to Provo and there was a guy on the end of the street, which was very rare at this time to see a homeless guy on the street. And this guy was right off of the off ramp and he had a sign and saying need help, please. And the sailor rolls down his window, yells out the window said join the Navy or get a fucking job, you bum.
And what a way to that That echoes in my head any time that I see somebody on the side of the road because it's not for me to decide who they are. Like, you know, my son was with me and I, I gave the last two dollars I had in my wallet to this woman says, hey, I'm looking for something to eat. Is there anything give me? I said here have my last two dollars. And she's like, oh, I don't want to take it if it's your last two. And I said nonsense. And I said, you know, take it
and if you can use it, great. And she goes, I'll pay you back. And I said, what for? Use it, take care of it. I don't care if it's two dollars, $2000 or $200,000. If I have it, I should be able to give it.
And that's where I think like I, I look for opportunities, not necessarily to make my life better, but to be able to make somebody else's life better because that in turn, I'm helping to be able to create a better world around me by being able to like, people love people around me despite who they are. Like when you said that, I was just like, dude, I totally spaced it, my ADHD brain. But like, Bennett and I were texting and he's like, dude, I'd love to get together and talk
and just go over everything. He's like, you know, I don't have to worry about you, you know, asking about money or something like that. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's not my thing. Like I don't if if. I needed help. He is as a person. It's never been about. Yeah. But you notice with even with him is that it's like he states like, are they just talking to me for my money or the perceived
money that they think I have? But because I've met people, because I know people, because I've done things, are they only interested in my money? And that's where I start to think like, if I just am good to people because I'm good to people for no reason other than just to be good to people, then I'm going to build immense amount of value.
And then that other part where we can serve each other, which is we shouldn't be ashamed to ask for help from our fellow, any, any of our friends, our man, our community, our government. And the reason why we shouldn't feel ashamed about that one is that not everybody is going to have a smooth ride. There's no promise, there's no guarantee, And there's a lot of suffering, undue suffering that can be undone by following that Christian, you know, theology
over there, right? Love your neighbor and love yourself. Yeah, but the thing too is you got to love your neighbor too. You can't just go, yeah, I'm great and go fuck yourself if you can't make it. Yeah, we have to help. But I think if you truly love yourself, like really love yourself, actually, it's not the oh, I'm great, I'm this, it's you're going to love other people that is going to include your neighbor.
But if you, but I think most of us don't start with that first part and so we don't, it's hard to do. The second part, I don't think they understand that. I don't think a lot of people understand how to be able to even love themselves because they're just like, So what? What? Because they they base it off of the value of their monetary gain. Yeah. You know what? What kind of job do I have? How much money do I make?
What else? And I had a conversation about that yesterday, last night is he was talking about how, you know, the last couple months there's been kind of his wife has been the breadwinner and that and I was like, I totally can relate. I understand that like it can be very weird and as a man, like almost demoralizing because our value, our perceived value is, is from the monetary like what we bring in. And if we're not doing that in that moment, it's what, what is my value? What is my worth?
What am I outside of, you know, this dollar amount that I'm providing? And it can be really hard sometimes to step outside of that and go, Hey, shit, as a human, there's so much more immense value that we hold. And like you said, it's we get caught so much up. I think in me, me, me, but not because it's a oh, hey, I love me. It's I'm really struggling. I don't feel OK or something's wrong.
Something's disconnected. And so, and because of that, because we don't have that love, it's harder to feel that really closeness or, you know, for a lot of people, the willingness to go and love another person or go hey, just for no reason, a stranger like someone of hey, I'm giving something of me just because like there's nothing you can do to repay this. There's nothing you need to do to repay this.
This is just because you know. Yeah, truly, because just because, and that's that's the thing that a lot of people have a it's, it's a rarity to receive true charity. Charity isn't feeling bad for somebody and giving us something they don't. But charity is smiling at somebody. It's saying hi to them. It's meeting somebody new and feeling a connection with them and tell them, hey, I love you man, I love you. Truly giving of you to that. That's what charity is.
You know, it's funny, you got a movie called Pay It Forward where a little kid inspires people to do a decent fucking thing. That's all. Then they go extreme, you know? But The thing is, we should be extreme with that. We should be extreme of showing our compassion and and love towards our fellow man. Because if we do that, there's more opportunities, more opportunities for all of us to grow. Like I would love to go back to a time where it's just like,
what kind of job do you have? Oh, that's cool. Like that's it, that's it. Like I don't care about how much money you have or where you live gives a shit. I try. To not even ask about that most of the time. I know a lot of people are very focused on it because that's what conversations are. That's how my family was always like, oh, you know, go meet with grandpa. Oh, what are you doing for work? What are you doing in school? You know, everything like that.
So it's every time I'm, you know, what are you doing, members and stuff? What are you, what are you doing for work lately? Yeah. How are you doing? Does that matter? Yeah, That's that's that's always it. How are you making money so you can bring value to this world? Well, like, oh, OK. Well, there's nothing else that's a conversation most of the time. Like this is very weird and disconnected because there's so much value in a human that's not coming from the monetary earned.
Like here's the sad thing dude. Like with my siblings, I know if I made more money they would respect me and then still not talk to me because then now they would create something else. They'd be like, well, he's too wealthy to talk to me. It's always finding the differences, not our
commonalities. You know, and it's it's like what you have with your brother, like you, you talk with your brother and you guys have discussions and it doesn't always have to be money, even though it always goes to it because it's part of your upbringing. But at the same time, it's like, you know it, you have that connection beyond that where you stay in touch beyond money.
Like if you you know that because your brother, I mean, we're struggling, but your brother hasn't been like, oh, I can't talk to you poor person, right? He's not like, fuck that guy. He doesn't make enough money, but we can have phone conversations in the dark at night, making sure that nobody can see us. But I changed the name of your contact on my phone to Jimmy John's because I don't want people to think that I'm talking
to a poor person. But The thing is you'll you'll see a lot of generations below, like the Millennials, where that's very important to them. It's very important that status, that idea, because I mean, that's the the birth of the Jake Paul's and Logan Paul's because I don't know what have they done to contribute to the world at all.
Anything good? No, like, I mean, they were gone for a while because Logan Paul decided to make fun of this crazy ass forest in Japan where people go to kill themselves. And there was somebody hanging in a tree in the background where he did that. His career is ruined and what does he do? Stupid shit. That's why you've got only fans. You got only fans, right? Porn used to be everybody's little teeny secret. That you had, you know. Anybody now? It's a part of discussion. You know.
It's so weird, dude. It's we have gotten to a place of comfort that we have to do what other people say they like, don't look at porn because it's going to get worse. It's just going to get worse. And you're going to go from regular into like, you know? Fucking or bestiality or some weird shit. Oh, it's going. To get worse than that, it's going to be like, there's a guy who jerks off with a Rd. flare and you're like. What? That's how they always told you.
Hey, it'll start with this and then it's going to get you're going to be snorting crack off of your Dick while you what I. Never got that. Discussion you. Have different people that. I know I grew up in a weird family so. But there's seriously just like that same thing like you're talking about, like it's it's something that even now where that has to be so extreme, like how many, how many people knew porn stars back in the day? Very few. And you knew who they were
because there was only a few. Now every girl with the fucking iPhone can now be a porn star. And it's like what this is. And it's it's gotten to the extreme where it's considered an occupation. It's an occupation something that's it. It goes the same. Following it on LinkedIn titles yet though 'cause if it. I am dead serious. I'm gonna pull it up right now. LinkedIn. Yeah, Oh my God, that's. 66,000 followers London, England. On LinkedIn?
That's interesting. All of these porn stars are on there. So if you are looking for your employees, go see how many Only Fans models they follow on LinkedIn. Dude, it's so see, that's the thing. Like why? Why have the? I mean, it's I get it. It's one of the I'm. Sorry we can't hire you. You only follow 10 only fans models on LinkedIn. We require at least 25. You have to at least completed at least 5 videos and have them on only fans in order for us to
hire you. I don't see an only fans on your experience like. Enjoy the world. Around I was saying this right, we we are comfortably collapsing our society right now, which is actually a good. Thing and comfortably collapsing. There we go. Because we are comfortably collapsing. Because it's we, we are going into comfort, we are going to DoorDash our way into poverty. And that's OK. That's an OK thing, at least
from my perspective. Because what I see is, is that one of the things that I love about Americans and you look throughout history is they are the most innovative and fastest moving group of people that have ever existed. We don't we are still so young that we're developing a culture. I know people go Americans don't have culture. We're too young to have culture. We're building it slowly.
And it's the idea of the of the idea of Americans and that is that you can make anything, you can build anything, you can become anything you want. And it it just takes a lot of work and you got to understand who you are. But more importantly, who gives a shit about all that? One, If we can have this reckoning, we're going to see people starting to get closer. We're going to see stronger communities. We're going to see, and this
will go on the rise too. Churches will explode because people will need to be around others to feel comfort because their money can keep comforting. Well dude, how many of these jobs are going to disappear? Not just because of AI, just because it's needed. If I don't have money to buy a stupid subscription for a fucking box that shows up once a month of a bunch of random shit that somebody threw in there.
We are also thinking about it too though, like how many companies are just software ones or support for that, or all these other ones where it's like, OK, how much of that is replaced even by AI that does OK? Well, we do all of this in our workings now, OK, Well now it needs 100th of the manpower to maintain and manage this stuff. So yeah, I get comfortable I guess. Smoke more. Weed, yeah, real smoke more
weed, yeah. And. And ponder, because that's usually where this shit comes up. But TuneIn next week. Yeah, TuneIn, next week.