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Stoned & Civilized: Ancient Aliens, Pyramids, and Popcorn Flicks

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In this off-the-rails sesh, we sparked one up and somehow ended up unravelingĀ the fabric of civilization. šŸ”„šŸŒ


FromĀ movie conspiraciesĀ toĀ ancient pyramids,Ā forgotten empires, and theĀ very highĀ possibility ofĀ aliens helping humanity build stuff, this episode is part history class, part stoner ramble, and 100% vibes.


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• Are we living in a simulation? (And would that make weed the cheat code?)

• Ancient civilizations that wereĀ way more advancedĀ than your history books admit

• Why war is dumb, and movies sometimes get itĀ weirdly right

• Our favorite trippy war and sci-fi films to watch high


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I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse we're. Cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations with everyday. People. Cannabis companies. Celebrities. And your mom? Welcome to the Sash, said to ungentlemanly warfare. I don't. I don't understand why Curtis doesn't have it on Plex.

It's fucking good. It's a real story of how Britain got the US into World War 2 and it was this small team because they they were really freaked out because Germany was bombing the shit out of England. And when they were doing it in the Blitzkrieg's, Adolf Hitler had extended a truce if they surrender and give their land to him. And most of the Parliament was ready to do it, except Winston Churchill. He's like, I will not have that.

We'll fight to the end. And they were like, oh, and so he went to a guy who's a military general and he says, hey, we need to stop their U boats. And he's like, OK. And he's like, so I need you to put together A-Team that's going to go do that. And they have to be willing to die. And we can't acknowledge him. This is like the very first

clandestine operation. And so they pull this guy out of prison who was a major who just didn't get along with other people like he was in prison for insubordination. And they pull him out because he's crazy. He puts a small team together of real people and A5 man team with a spies, 2 spies that were embedded with the Germans in this island that were housing this one U boat.

And their mission is to go in there and blow it up to stop all the supplies to other U boats because that's what was helping Germany win the war and the US wouldn't join the war. So Churchill wanted to say, hey US, look what we did. We destroyed that. We need your help because they needed our help bad. And this small team went in there and did it. And they did way more than they thought. But the way they talk about their team, like dude, they took down an entire base with four

dudes. That's crazy. With tons of Germans. Yeah. A Guy Ritchie directed it. He does a lot of really good action movies and a lot of, like, thoughtful pieces. Henry Cavill's in it, and he's the main guy. He's Superman. Like did you see Superman? I saw one Superman when I was little and man, it's the only one I've seen. What's the other it's? Been probably 20 plus years. Oh really dude, you should watch

the newer one, it's pretty cool. It's got Kevin Costner, he played Geralt in the Witcher series. OK, Yeah. So that guy, he's in and he is awesome. He plays a good like he's got like this curly mustache and a beard and it's like bushy, but he. Just and he's Superman. Yeah, he's Superman. With that big bushy beard. No, no, no, no, no. He cut it all off. I was like, I feel like Superman is usually a very clean cut. Oh yeah, no, this was back in the day.

Like, this is a fairly new movie and it has that guy. Did you ever see Reacher? I swear I did. That on Amazon. Incredibly familiar. It's it's based after a book series by a guy named Lee Child. And they did like a whole thing with Tom Cruise as Jack Reacher. It didn't go very well because Tom Cruise is 5 four and Jack Reacher in the books is 6 five. Yeah. So they decided to do camera angles from down low to make him look tall around everyone. Yeah, I mean, with him, you got

to put him on soap. Like I tell you that when we did a movie, we put these soap boxes on this duty. He was like super buff, but we needed a really big guy to face our main character and we couldn't find one. So he had to put him on. So we. Literally like we like zip tied these two milk crates together and then stood him on top of that. That's hilarious. That's how he had to look like really tall, but he was like way short, which was so funny because we had to make him look big.

But yeah, dude, it it's fuck was I talking about? Reacher because. Of Oh yeah, that guy, dude, he's 63 and he's big as fuck and it like the first season's really good, but he's in that and he's plays this character. All of them hate German Nazis. And this one guy, he is so like, and this is World War 2. And it's also like older it, it's not like the Americans, the Americans were really dependent upon how they fought because it was new for them, right?

They'd old wars. But it it's all contained in one place, very young nation. You got people who've been doing crazy shit passed down for many, many generations. Yeah, America was a baby. Yeah, so this guy was he haunted Nazis with his bow? What the fuck? And he scalloped. Them like a compound bow or like an old RE curve? Not even a reek cur one of those old. Horse bow, kind of like what I have. Not a little longer though, like a full size. Yeah, and he just.

Mine's a Turkish horse bow, so it's meant to be on horseback. It's a very short, like it's, it's specifically designed that way. But his was like the longer ones than just not. Yeah. He wore like this in the movie. It's cool, but like it, it's just a fun movie. But the cool part is, is like towards the end they talk about all the people and they show pictures of them. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, like the main guy, he was just like, he was always a badass and he was always taking things.

He goes like he, he was like he, they got him in there. He's got handcuffs and, and he's just wandering around the room and they're talking to him and he opens up the cigar box and he goes and they're like the main guy's like. So he just starts taking a bunch, putting him in his pocket and puts one in his mouth and then picks up this thing of

cigarettes. And then he's got this officer who's there who plays a real guy that had to intervene between all these generals and Churchill cause Churchill was sanctioning a private mission. And they told him if you guys get caught, you're going to prison. Yeah. If you get caught by the Germans, torture and death. Yeah. And all of them were like, yeah, yeah, let's go ahead and do it Like they were just crazy. Well. Weren't they already in prison? It sounded like anyways.

No, no, no, no. Just the main guy. All the other guys were just. They were all. Crazy people that would follow him. Yeah, they would do whatever. An explosive dude, a guy who had the bow, who was like hated Nazis, killed him with his bare hands because they killed his brother. Like every single one of them. Their family had been German Nazis had killed their family. And I thought about that like, you know, when you have those wars today, like Americans are

pretty fierce. If you hurt us, we'll go crazy on you. But you think about all those people in war that are fighting against what others may seem as they're helping, but they can be seen as oppressors.

And every time those soldiers like you hear are these stories talking about these guys that go and were in the Afghan Iraq war and every person that they would kill and they had kid, they're like, great, I just created another guy who's going to hate me. Yep, every American is this person who killed my parent, killed my brother. Yeah, in those areas. Killed my, you know, whatever. But The funny thing is, is that it's like, it's a love hate

relationship. Like my brother had told me, like when he was down there in Baghdad and in Ramadi, there was places you could go where it would be a crazy firefight. Like there's places they avoided. Oh. Yeah. And then there was other places he's like, you could walk naked down the street with an American flag wrapped around you and nobody would fucking look at you. He's all, they were either terrified of you or they liked

you. And he goes, there was a lot of people that liked us, but he's like, I know that there's a lot of people that absolutely hate us. And I was like, yeah, dude. But that's kind of how an occupation works. Well, and it's the the hardest part is that, you know, most of those people that are there occupying aren't the ones making those decisions that put them there in the 1st place, No. And so it sucks because they're the ones just following orders, and the ones who make those

orders are the ones back here. Well, I mean, they'll go out and they'll do it in the based on that, but it's just, it's just war. It's just war. And there's the it's not great. But you know what it's it's a constant. I mean, it's just a constant. And you know, it's nice right now is that we're not really involved in any like we don't have mass amounts of troops being sent over there to anywhere. Like you know when when people say like the soldiers are going out to defend free. Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, When soldiers are going out to defend freedom, I don't think all of them feel that way. Of course not. Oh, where? Where do you want to put the grounds? Oh, you got a rail there? Yeah, they don't feel that, I mean. Well, because what war in the past truly has been that most of them come out later that it was like, oh, it was actually for

this, you know? So I'm sure a lot of people that go out there, some probably feel great and then a lot of others go, what the hell are we even doing? Well, we haven't had a crazy dictator try to take over the world. You know, Hitler was the last one we saw like that. Like you could say like, oh, no, all these other really bad people. No, they're really bad people out there. Don't get twisted. But not on that scale. Not on that scale. And it, it's not even the Hitler

part. It was all these other people that were waiting for that same thing to happen. And they're like, this guy's getting the attention we want. We're going to do the same thing. And it, it just spiralled where the German, I mean, dude, German was it there the all the guys who put Hitler in prison after World War One. Like they were having a real difficult time. Like Germany was not doing well. And he came in and inspired him to be able to do more and they

did more. But it was all the other people below him that really made it even worse. Like Heidrick, like Himmler and Verner von Braun. A lot of horrible Nazis. Oh. Yeah, dude. And that's the thing. Like, you know, it, it just kind of goes along with it. But we haven't seen something like that where they're taking over mass amounts of countries and imprisoning certain people or just straight up killing them. Look, that was happening in Russia and people don't know

that. A lot of people don't know that during Clinton's time during the Serbian wars, dude, they were mass executing Muslims. Well, there's been lots of mass executions all over. No, but recently, recently even like in Burma, they mass killed Africa. Same with Giza strip recently, like there's all sorts of shit that like it's still a continuous thing. What do you What do you know about Giza? The. All the bombings and stuff, what do you mean? History of it and all that

stuff. I could not give you a definitive history of who's held it when and what and what. No recent like the but I do know that. I couldn't tell you. I don't know who holds it. I just know that there's been lots of horrendous murderings and bombings and killings all through there that just to me are the exact same. You know, mass murderings, mass killings, mass things 'cause it was a lot of people in there. It was like children, families. It wasn't.

Those are the ones dying. A lot of it was like getting destroyed and that was the ones who were suffering. So to me, that's the same as, you know, mass murders and hundreds of years ago or now it's the same thing, you know, it's just maybe they weren't all lined up and shot or burned, but it's the same kind of stuff. No, I'm just wondering, I mean, I'm big history buff and learning about that like it's, it's crazy because these well, wait a minute, where were we

just talking about Giza dude? After after World War 2, Did you know that's why the Jews went back to Israel? Because they had nowhere to go? Probably they were. They were kicked out of everywhere. Yeah, they were kicked out of everywhere or they didn't want to take the refugees, so they went down there. It's the same thing with Palestine. Palestine is not a real place. They're not a real people. They just settle. It was a bunch of it was like you. Mean it's like an originating

country or that it's. Just kind. Of collection of people that have like, America. Yeah, we're literally a mud hodgepodge mix of everyone. And a lot of the Middle Eastern countries didn't want to take any people, right? But there was a war, it was like called the Three Day War and it was Israel. It was the people who are coming back to form Israel.

Israel, Egypt, I think it was Iran and Palestine all fought against Israel. And Israel dominated against all those countries and their armies. They were completely outnumbered. Oh yeah, and they that's a crazy story on that one, but it's. But that's how it goes. It's the same thing with America. Like people go, oh, like I, I heard some guy over there going, yeah, this used to be America. I mean, this used to be Mexico. Think it used to be parts of the US were Mexico. Mexico.

I was like, I've never heard of all of the United States being Mexico, but sections were definitely held by Mexico. Prior to California, Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Utah. Like whoa. Idaho is part. I believe so. I I maybe you're off, but they didn't come into state. I didn't remember. I remember California, even potentially Nevada and New Mexico, Texas. I didn't remember Utah or Idaho being part of that. Utah was a was a Mexico

territory. The majority of this area was owned by Spain. Where they were a territory does not mean that it was originally someone else's previously and then it was taken over and then it became a Mexican territory. So whose was it before that? Cause the Aztecs and the Mayans. So that's The thing is it's like, oh, someone claims hold, but it was someone else's before that and it was someone else's before that and it was someone else's before that, right?

And it continues to shift and move. And, you know, it's kind of like King is gone. How much did he take over and go, oh, this is all this now? And like, all of this shit, you know, Chinese empires and like, everyone has taken over, moved or changed borders and boundaries and lines because it's like, yeah, people need. More of this England was like that. England took over a lot of places like India and Hong Kong. Africa. South Africa all over. And the French and the Dutch followed suit.

So it's it? Yeah, this is always happened. Yeah, Napoleon. I was like, wait, the French have been able to take over? Oh yeah, dude. That Napoleon did. Well, a lot of things like I, I, I really got into the history of Napoleon a little bit ago and it was pretty cool to kind of like go back through what was written, what they know about him and they know a lot about him. But the thing about it, I mean, 1, he wasn't French. He wasn't born French.

He was actually him and his family lived in an in an area that was getting occupied by France so they were reluctant. His first language wasn't even French. He. What was it supposed to be? It was something where they were as an Italian, he spoke Italian and another one another language, but his people were conquered. So they're Mediterranean area probably. Yes, yeah, yeah. But his people were conquered by the by the French. And so he was. He grew up that way.

He grew up going through schools nobody liked. Europe. Their boundaries have been. Oh, it's always. Constantly shifting. Oh yeah. You know, for so long, even Berlin Wall coming down, you know, that was this within our lifetime, there's been other countries that have been changed names and, you know, control, I guess, with Russia.

Oh my gosh, sorry about that. When the USSR collapsed, that's where we have all of these different sister States and people go, Oh no, these are countries and Russia's attacking Russia's trying to reclaim their territories. The USSR was massive, and it was. How long is that been? The USSR, it's, it's been since the 80s, since it collapsed, That's it. And then there was a lot of turmoil. They had another president, they had Gorbachev who was in there

when it started to go down. Then they had Yeltsin and then Yeltsin. He there was a lot of things like there was. Begat bigot and bigot Bagat Yelmat, you could. See the you could see like the

the way you were. Saying that made like scripture ship public I. Know right, that's good, but especially with their names, I mean, it's so like, I mean, and Putin's been one of the longest running Putin and he's been one of the strongest and his I mean it makes sense of who he is and he's ex KGB like this is ex special forces CIA guy who is now running the he knows how to run the country from finance to war, but it's just the population, you know, like a lot

of people, like some of the ideas that are floated around is that one of them is that he wants Ukraine and all the other territories because their population is pretty low for the size of their country. Russia has a very low population and they're in population decline fast. And the reason why is they've had non-stop war and they've shot more war, less babies. We go throughout history and that's why we did so well for so long.

If they want to have more people just stop going to war so much. Let people fuck for a bit. Yeah. But if you take the the last 100 years, we have been in nonstop wars. Like nonstop. Yep. Yeah, I I was talking to Steph about that. And I'm like, she goes, have we've ever been in peace since you've been alive? And I'm like wait. Define peace. No, I mean like not. Globally.

Where we are in like a military theater, like we actually have boots on the ground, lots of people and there's fighting going on and. As far as globally or just the US? Well, the US has always been involved since World War 2. Like it's been non-stop it. Was world. War 2. Korea, Vietnam and then. Afri. And then Vietnam. There was a small break, but they were still. They were.

Doing the Contra fights, well, the Cold War was just like an ongoing dispute, but like actual like war happening, like firing. And dude, it was literally like we had short times of peace. Like during Reagan's time. There was there were there were campaigns, but there weren't like wars. It wasn't until like Bush senior, but that was a really small war. Like we went in there just kind of showed like the Iraqi army didn't know what the fuck.

I mean, it ended in three days. It was in three days. And Saddam was pulling his people out. And that's when they were lighting the those massive oil refineries on fire. They're like, what's that? During the 1990s, early 90s, when Saddam Hussein went into Kuwait to take over their oil and Kuwait already had an agreement with the United States. I think it went way back. But you'll give us your oil for

extremely cheap. You will only trade with U.S. dollars and we will provide aid and we will also defend you. So they didn't have a standing army. They don't really have it. They have police and stuff like that, but they don't have a standing army because the US has

always done it for them. And so nobody messed with them because the US after World War 2 and they realized that because they weren't like a global superpower like they were after because they had these massive dude, they went crazy with building ships and weapons, but. Changed a lot. But it changed the war because if if the US wouldn't have got involved in World War 2, Hitler would have won. I believe it. I'd be very, I believe that I'm

very curious to see. I'd be very interested to see what other countries, World War 2 history textbooks kind of talk about 'cause every country I'm sure has drastically different stuff that they produce around it. But I'd be interested to see kind of what, especially World War 2. Well, it was easier because on on the on the European side, Germany moves so fast.

Oh yeah, it was insanely quick. Which was the Blitzkrieg's and what what fueled the Blitzkrieg's speed 'cause they were giving methamphetamine tablets to the soldiers they think look like Mentos and they would pop them all the time. But then the crazy thing that happened after World War 2 is that after everybody went home and the Nazi soldiers are just German soldiers now, not Nazi soldiers, a lot of them started

to kill themselves. 2 reasons. One, realization of the shit that you were a part of and two, these guys were going home and having to just be normal. They were drug. Addicted to meth and then going back going wait now I'm supposed to be normal and not have this? But it was genius on the German side because they gave these guys hopped up on meth and then they didn't sleep. They didn't need to eat. They just moved. They could get shot and they

would still keep moving. They would fight relentlessly. Now you take other people because you know, all of these other neighboring countries didn't invest into massive armies like the the biggest, some of the biggest armies were like France and England. And dude, these countries as big as they are in history, they're the size of fucking states. Here are the. Oh yeah, well, 'cause you look at it and but they might have more people per square capita.

It depends on the country potentially and the state. Yeah, England's. Like like New York is crazy heavily populated, yet that is size poppy and compare something like that's. Why like India has? Utah, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, we only live. We live like in a in a stretch that's probably the size of Manhattan. Oh yeah, but it's all the way down the entire state, and the state has tons of. Of land, desert, yeah, desert and and mountains, yeah, and lots of mountains.

And that's the thing. Like, I mean, that's what you get. It's a it. It's a massive state with not a lot of resources outside of the metal. Yeah, you get a lot of water and everything. It's a Tootsie. Roll. It's a Tootsie pop, right? To get to the chewy nougat. You know what's interesting?

I was out hiking, we wandered up Big Cottonwood Canyon with Preston and Kaylee Sunday and we were walking up there and it was talking about just folding and forming of the rock formations because it literally looks like the Earth's crust has like come up and you can see the layers and then it's like warped and stuff. And, and it was just talking about how it was from the sea levels and just like the waves

and stuff. I'm like, it's crazy to think that this high up, like crazy high in the mountains here was sea level, that when I go hike up Squaw Peak, I find sea seashells up along Squaw Peak that's way above all of the city. All of the city, like all of the valley, everyone and everything was just totally covered. Well, I mean, it's, yeah. At some point in the last 1,000,000 and hundreds of millions of years like billions and billions like it goes through this.

You can go up to the Utah Natural History Museum and they have the whole like timeline of when it was at certain stages and that, and I couldn't tell you exactly, but yeah, it's just really cool to see. You can see that like within the Grand Canyon, the layers, the sediment, those are going back.

Yeah, it's really cool. So far people go, well, what is it just dirt kind of pile up on there when that's some of the reasons why the the idea that the the flood hypothesis that yeah, dude, it would move dirt, mud, why you're not going to find bones altogether of that. I mean, it moves everywhere like we were. Talking like the ocean floor. True. Yeah, because. It will never be the same, it'll always shift. It would always be changing with that, and that's the crazy part.

Like, we have no idea what Nast truly was with stuff, you know, It's like those. Have you you seen those underwater pyramids off the coast of Japan? There's been some, I don't remember if it was off the coast of Japan, but there was some in some video that I had watched that were like underwater ones. Yeah, it is.

Yeah, these ones are crazy because like people go, Oh no, those are natural formations because you look in Japan and they have stone that comes from I think either the cyclopean period or the polygonal period. But these stones are stacked like they do in South America. The dry stacked line. Perfectly fit and stuff. But they're cut. Weird they. Don't shift. They never shift. They never move like. Earthquake, nothing. They've never moved and they

have this. They built it like a lot of their like castles, stuff like that. Some of them have these bases that are so ancient that before the Japanese were even there, there was somebody there. So that's the thing. It's. Like it's just built upon an existing structure. Right. And and I get the animosity when people are like, yeah, I'm a, you know, who would be excited

about being a conquered people. But at the same time, we are, well, we, we either are a part of the conquering or we have been conquered. Yeah. And, and Americans can say that later into the future, they could probably admit it then. But we were a conquering culture. We did it in a very clandestine way where I was talking with this other guy and I was like, well, after World War 2, we had bases all over the place.

You were talking to me about it and you were like, oh, it's almost like a the Roman Empire because it was everywhere and they had bases everywhere and that. I'm like, oh shit, yeah, no, that is kind of. It's 100% the Roman Empire because that's what the Roman Empire would do. They would create more or less like a, a fob, a Ford operating base and they would have this one and they would have Roman soldiers and, and politicians and stuff like that run those areas and they would just keep

moving and expanding. That's why I like after Rome fell comes the dark ages. And the reason why the Dark ages is not because I, I used to think I'm like the dark ages. Like we just didn't know anything anymore. We just lost history. And there are some people that hypothesize that, you know, we because of one king, we're actually living in the 1700s, not in 2000. Like, yeah, they just like got rid of 300 year. Oh, it's a crazy theory. There's a guy came up in the

80s. But anyways, when the Roman Empire fell, they was often said that Rome was the light of the world. Cause wherever Rome came, wherever Rome conquered, they brought civilization, they brought mathematics, they brought all this stuff like the Germanic people were very strong. Warrior culture looks super strong like the Vikings and they were conquered by the Romans just cause the Romans had better technology, they had better tactics, they had better

medicines, they had better food. And most of the, I mean, during certain periods of time they, they did really well. The citizens did really well of Rome. They, they were doing good. They didn't always go that way. Like when there, when there was poverty, when there was, I mean, inflation's what took down Rome. That's the funny part. Like that's how Rome destroyed itself was inflation. Makes sense. It's a very simple way to destroy yourself. How do you come back?

The the and how you learned about their it was their coins and they saw their coins. And the crazy thing that they would do is that the reason why they knew inflation was still the same coin, but it was made with a cheaper metal. So you needed to use more of that metal 'cause I knew as a purveyor of goods that you only had half silvers. Yeah. So I need. Just as much to get the same value.

And so they were, dude, the, the the Roman government was just making these coins like crazy and giving them to the people. Yeah, printing money. And the same thing. The Chinese have done that. That was the whole. So have we. Well, dude, look at the coin. What America's done the the Chinese coin. You ever noticed that little hole? You know what it's make it bigger. You know what it's for. So maybe I learned when in grandma and grandpa and we went over there, but I couldn't tell.

You so they used to use this string and guys who would sell anything you paid in coin and the reason why that circle is there is for these merchants to be able to hold more coin and they would put it on the string around their body so they could hold more coin because they could only put so much in a purse. Well, then they were like, well, this is ridiculous because if you got a lot of money, it was going to be heavy as fuck. Oh yeah.

I mean, this guy probably got like 5 or 6 of these things wrapped around them, right? And probably a purse or a bag. So it's just too a lot. Of weight. It's a lot of weight trying to wear chainmail, but it's all money. So what do they do? They convert it into these promissory notes. There's one of some of the first central these banks started to form going, hey, you can bring your money here 'cause they had banks forever, but it was holding a usually currency of

metal. But this currency started, they started to write these slips of the money on it. Yeah, pretty much. And that's where mass money, because now I can have a stack of money, I could have lots and lots of money, and then I can go to the bank and exchange my paper for that. And that bank would take so much percentage off of everything. And that's how they would make them. That's how banks make their money anyways. They take your money and then lend it. We know that, right?

Yeah, well, they use it in the time when you're not, and banks make ludicrous amounts. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Like people used to be afraid of go and get loans from banks. They're like, no, you should. That's how they make money. They are happy to give you a loan as long as you can come to him with something that is collateral going, hey, is it a house? Is it a business? What, what is it?

Do you have a business like? I always thought it was weird, like I'm going to go to the bank and present my business plan to them. Yeah. Because they were like, yeah, we invest in a lot of things and it's like. This you think about it so. It's a weird agreement. It's like an investor. If I wanted to start something and I came to an investor, well, is an investor going to go, hey, I've got this idea, you should give me money. Oh, cool, here's some money.

No, I want to see how you're going to work that plan, how it's going to be like advantageous for both of us, and how I can see that my investments going to be successful. That's literally all it is. Yeah. And all you're taking is all those people that deposited their money into that bank, they're giving it to you. They give that to you. So they don't have. Any Oh no, it's not. It's pulled from other. Oh, that's right.

That's so it's pulled from a whole, this is a whole another hours and hours conversation on that, but. But that that's, I mean, that's how the paper money started to come around, but it always went back to coin. Well, then when we pulled away from the Federal Reserve and away from the gold standard, like, well, it's changed a lot, too. And my hypothesis on the gold standard, why we were pulled off it is not because they we didn't have enough, is that we had none.

Yeah, I don't think we have any. Well. So. When the Knox doesn't have any when? They pulled us off was they also bankrupted the American citizens like so declaring bankruptcy on that was basically going, hey, we can't pay this. We don't, we don't have that money. Like I'm sorry. Dude, so it's so funny, 'cause it's just something that we've just grown up with and we just

know that it's just there but. They're not realizing that every 70 years they keep declaring bankruptcy for our own country. Like, it's all these things that it's kind of like people going, oh, Donald Trump's declared bankruptcy. Do you know how many times? Yeah. So has our country. So has like tons of these really large businesses. Every.

Single, it was like, I think Apple, Apple had this what was 128 million or something, some grant or something that they'd got for something and they basically just were like, oh, hey, we weren't profitable on this. We're declaring bankruptcy. We're just not going to pay that like so many companies do this, that we look at and admire and go, oh. Declaring bankruptcy is legal magic. Yep. Oh, sorry, my Monopoly game. I kind of screwed it up.

I'd like to start over please. Can I get a new piece? I would like the dog. I'd like a new board. I had the top hat but the dog. I'm going to actually set up this new EIN for this business. We're going to new social for my business. So let's just get new credit there, OK? Yeah, let's start past go $200, right, OK. All right, literally every fucking company, like so many of them do that.

And yet as humans and that we stress because like, oh man, I'm not successful, but so many of humanity and society, we can follow the business structure because that's what business in America is built on. And if you do the exact same thing as a human, which you can, you can design and do all that same stuff. If you do that, you're doing exact same stuff, but in the same legal, lawful methods that exist under the 10,000 plus pages of tax code.

Well, dude, that's the thing. Like when you see these movies like about you ever seen the Social Network? The movie about Facebook? I swear I have. It's got Jesse Einsberg and got Tom. What? Not Tom Andrew Garfield, the guy who played Spider the Goods, the really good Spider Man. He's the guy in, I don't know if he's, oh, I did see that Spider man, but he's also in Under the Banner of Heaven. Yeah, and he's also, have you ever seen that one where he

plays the medal on or recipient? I forgot his name. I actually really like Andrew Garfield. Yeah, he's a good actor. He's a really good actor. No, he's in this movie. Fuck, I can't remember. Anyways, it's a World War 2 movie. He goes to join the army because he feels it's his godly duty. But he's not going to. He's not going to kill anybody. He will not carry a weapon. He was going to be a medic. OK, OK. That the army told him that he had to have a weapon. You cannot go out into the

battlefield without a weapon. Yeah. So they were going to court martial him. And his father had fought in the First World War in the army. And he had petitioned him saying, you know, just let him fight. You know, that's what he wants to do. And this is what he wants to do. So anyway, Long story short, he goes, he gets to go to war, but he can't. He can't. He doesn't. Carry a weapon.

Well he ended up there was this battle in I think it was in Japan and these guys were completely slaughtered. These Marines or army guys were slaughtered and this guy saved 75 people. Holy shit that were thought that were dead and he went out for it was almost like 2 days of him non-stop going out there, dragging a guy, putting a rope around him, throwing him down a Cliff, lowering him down and then doing it over and over 75 times.

That's insane. There was a cool is a movie about it and they had this part where he pulled a dead body on top of them and buried the other soldier because these Japanese guys were going around and they were. Chilling, stabbing him and yeah. Just make sure. Make sure they're dead. Yep. And he'd get him off and he'd drag him out there. And I mean, dude, nobody knew. That feels like. A Daws something Daws. Yeah, Yeah, those, those were true. Like one of the what's his name?

He's got a funny name. There's a Medal of Honor recipient, dude. The guys won it twice when he was nine. He was like the youngest Medal of Honor recip dude. The guy, he's got like a crazy name but his his his uniform is just littered with metals and he in in during World War 2 alone took down a tank. That's impressive. With his guys, with grenades and. Bees, guys. No, no, no, single handedly. Oh shit. And then held off other guys for them to come over there.

He's all fucked up, shrapnel, bullets in him. He gets back, gets healed up and goes right back and wins another time. Like you'd hear these guys that would truly put in these heroic things. It was a different generation. It's. Oh yeah, but you see that in the special for some of the Special Forces community and I, and I don't want to shit on them, but there's enough guys out there who shit all over their own fine. I don't want to get in that fight. I'm not, I'm not in their ranks.

And I think they're bad ass and I think it's cool, but, you know, not all of those guys are good people. Yeah, that's that's. Not shitting on all of them, that's shitting on on. Those crazy. People, but that's that's like a psychopath out and about anywhere. It doesn't matter if they're in special forces or if they're in McDonald's working in the drive through like. Jeffrey Dahmer was probably a

very nice neighbor. Supposedly, like all the things, most of these people, when you learn or Ted Bundy or whatever, you hear about them and they're like, oh, they're like charismatic and charming and. Like woman that dated Ted Bundy but she had the wrong color hair. So he. Was no, not later on, it was really scary, but she had the wrong color hair and she was just like, I worked with her at the state hospital and, and maybe she didn't, but it was a good story either way.

But she she fucking was like he was really nice. He was super charismatic. He's very good looking. She's like, he just got your attention and what he would do after that, like he would hit him with like a tire iron or something or fucking choke him. And then he got really testing. That's how he got caught. Was he bit one of them on the ass. So post mortem that was his his his marker because they have such deep egos, these severe psycho, but these psychopaths are crazy.

But he bite the ass cheek and they got it from dental. Like his dental work matched the bite marks. That's crazy. And dude, the first time he got caught, he escaped. What? Yeah, he was here in Utah for quite a while. He got a degree in Utah. Well, there's cave up American Fort Canyon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can actually go to. It has bars supposedly on it. Nuns Park had was one where when they found one of the victims holy. Shit, been through there a

million and two times. Oh yeah, dude made out with plenty of girls up there. But it, it was, it's crazy, dude. It's like like the amount of random history that you will find everywhere. Well dude, like Utah, they have some of the largest petroglyphs. Oh, we have some amazing ones. And these are like ancient, ancient ones. These go way past the Native Americans. Even down by like Lake Powell. Area you can see. On Yeah, we did when I was young. Do we go to Lake Powell?

You, some of them you have to dock in the, in the lake because the stairs are literally in the cliffside and they're just built in and see, unless you swim there or take a boat, you're not getting up right. And so we would dock and like, you know, climb up there and go see the like the homes, petroglyphs, all these crazy, old, ancient, really incredible things that are just like. Oh, and they're, it's, it's

their world. They're just telling you about their, they, they weren't telling anybody about. They were just like, he was so profound to them that they needed to draw it. And they had some really like there's a, a cave in France, one of the oldest ones that they found from the, I think it was around the Ice Age where there was these beautiful drawings in this French cave of animals and wildlife and people. And it was a really well done.

I remember this art class that I took in college and she went into that there in France. I, I mean, I could find it. I'll put I'll get you the links. I was like, I 'cause they were cool. Paris. I don't think I really went outside of. Paris. Oh, no, this is out in the sticks. Like, not what people typically think of France. You know, 'cause you, you think of France, you think of like the, the loo and Eiffel Tower and the catacombs, because I'm, yeah, the catacombs would be

crazy to see. Did you see that? Oh yeah. It was the craziest, coolest thing because it's literally for like miles. And the way they've designed it, it literally it's all decorative. So there's like stacks of just like certain types of bones and then rows of skulls and then other stack like all the way down. And it's just this whole entire area and it just keeps going. That's fucking. Weird dude. It is the craziest thing and it's like you take the stairway

going down to get to it, right? It it's so cool, but like really creepy. And somewhere on my mom's hard drive, there's pictures that I have from friends, but it was on one of my that has been 20 years, you know, so I all of those I don't have right now, but I have so many pictures from like down in the catacombs. I. Wish I took better pictures. I I just don't.

I didn't have a good, a good phone back then because again, it was a long time ago, but I still took tons of hit photo, tons of photos because everywhere I went was Sony unique to me. Like architecture, design, like really ancient stuff that we just don't see as much of around here. You know, just culture and society that America's a pretty new nation. So unless it is petroglyphs or something that exists, most of

it's pretty new. Yeah, OK, So recently, you know, when you're listening to this, it could be old, but there's this scientific debate about this new findings in the in the Giza pyramid or across the Giza plateau was where it is. And they did this pictures with SAR. Yeah. Technology, yeah, synthetic infrared, like it's, it's to pick up the vibrations around things, to show structures. But they put out a huge, what would you call it, press release?

Yeah, they did this well. Discovery they they had. Yeah, these Japanese and and Egyptian archaeologists had found, they'd done this test and there's like people are like, Oh my gosh, this makes sense and it does make a lot of sense. And then there's other people going, well, you can't really see that. But one thing I wanted to think about, we talked about it yesterday and a couple of people are like, yeah, this is not there.

But if you think about the Longyou caves in China, so in China they found this place that they think is dated like the the earliest pots they could find there was two O 6 BC. 206 years. No two O 6 BC. Yeah, yeah. 206 years BC. Yeah, OK. So when that came out, what caves they found were these massive caves that were completely flooded. And those pillars are probably a hundred 200 feet tall. Now the ones underneath the Gaza pyramid, you just have to to keep it in perspective.

It's 600 and I think 620 or 642 meters tall. So to put it in perspective. It's what they're they're saying from the scans. Yeah, the the cylinders and. So they say there's 8 cylinders that go down. Yeah, and they're hollow. 540 something. 6. 180 meters, yeah. So all the way down with staircases or. Or something coiling around around them. Stair choices or or could be like. I mean it. It would probably be more likely a staircase of some kind. Was what they were saying.

Right. And and what the pyramid is made out of it can hold a lot of electric connectivity. So there's certain stone that can actually are are good electric conduits. Well, and we've already talked about it often that we think it potentially could be a battery, a power source, something. Like a a massive power. Source. Like there's no actual real bodies in the like there's no real bodies things like. That there's never been a body there.

There's no rising. Sarcophagi like these types of things for it. So you're like, OK, well, if that's not actually found in here and all of these other things are designed that way. The thing that really like the only thing that made me curious about what they pulled from it And when I saw the images of the scans, I'm like, I'm not really sure how they correlate that into that, but it's probably all technology and a lot of computer stuff that pulls that.

But when I was looking at it, I'm like, I don't really see how that correlates. But the bright insight Jimmy guy was saying that was the only one. He was saying that that type of SAR test that they were doing wouldn't be able to penetrate the water that's found only 50 meters down. Which is awesome that these people who will say that are not experts on the product. Yeah, that's The funny thing. Well, his came from something else. He was like, oh, through this,

like this too. And that's why I bring up the Long U Caves, because you know how that was found. It was this village that had endless pure drinking water constantly coming in. They didn't know where I was. Coming. Yeah, but they weren't doing like a test to go through and no, no, no that. But that's why I'm saying like they never knew where it came from and when they uncovered it. They have no idea what dates this come from. They see specifically tool

marks, scooping. They're not like like chipping or anything like that. Smooth everything was there. They found places to live, they found artifacts in there. And that the artifacts that they found in there just dated around that time doesn't mean that's when it was, because the dating of the pyramid is usually done by carbon 14. So they'll say, oh, we found this wood near it, No. No, I wasn't asking about the timing or no, no, no. No, no, but I was just going into that.

But but anyway, you were saying. Yeah, yeah. I was just saying that that's cool they found it from there. But that whole cave thing they didn't find through doing like an SAR kind of test of detective. And that's not what I'm saying. That's all I was saying is to. Keep an open mind about it because you never know what's underneath. It's true, we have no idea, but it was just more of like, it would be interesting if that is

truly what's down there. But just looking at it going, I'm very curious as to why that was put out. If potentially the reality is that that type of test cannot actually penetrate that, then it'll be more of what actually is underneath. And if so, like 'cause we already know it's the whole thing of like, hey, this has been told that this was a crypt. Like this was. Yeah, I've never. Believed that as a kid that

seems. But then it's going like, OK, well, if that's not actually true, why would that other thing be presented? What else could this potentially have underneath? You know, because yeah, maybe that's great. There's 8 cylinders with this, but maybe it's something way more intense or creep like way differently down there that we didn't even think of. But that's all my thought was, is like, well, maybe that test truly doesn't show or we don't have any idea what really is

down there. But like you said, we don't know. We don't know. Before we really can even get into this. So they still, they only released partial of the report. They have a four year, they have a four year, they have a four hour presentation that they're going to be doing with all of their findings. That'd be cool. I'd love to. They're more of what they talk. About, yeah. The one thing I kept saying, like, I, I am, I'm skeptical. I'm like, oh, that's cool.

But that's just a sight because there's like the Baltic Sea Anomaly. You ever heard of that? It looks like it. It looks like the Millennium Falcon crashed underwater. And it's the shape that they're like, oh, maybe it's an alien thing or something like that. So it gets more pareidolia. Like it's something on the ocean

floor. Yeah, they found it when they were looking for something, but it looked like it was man made that there was these stairs or it looked like it could be like a a ship of some kind, but it looked straight up. Looks like the Millennium. Falcon. And it's just stone as far as we can get close, but it's in a really bad place. So these people are immediately like, oh, you can see the drag marks underneath when we use this certain type of infrared. And and again, we don't, we

don't know. There's, there's. Speculation and it's theorizing, which is great. Which isn't necessarily you need to throw it out, but I think it's funny. Like, one side will be like, Yep, new aliens. And then the other side's like, Yup, you guys are stupid. You know why? Because I read the Wikipedia about this specific thing that

you guys are doing. And it says on Wikipedia that is open source, you can change it. It's just so funny how everybody wants to sit on something instead of being fucking crazy. Well, let's see what's down there. And the Egyptian government goes no, no, no, no. Yeah, Like I don't understand. The problem? Egyptian government has nothing they have not. Dude, they're going bankrupt. Might not find and let more people come in. Charge them I'm sure.

How many archaeological people would love to pay to go check out? Oh, dude, and they've got it. They've got tons of it's, it's their antiquity. Because honestly, I think is because they would find out that they've been lying about it. I think that a lot of their people. Probably find stuff that they would be like, oh, this was here all along because they're there. Well, because they're proud Egyptian people. They're like, oh, well, my people built this.

Like, I don't think so like it it it it just seems like pre pre diagnostic, pre flood because we don't like we have all this information that goes back to the Sumerians, but that's it. And I was supposed to believe that these guys were flinging poo and chasing things down and putting on the thing the. Way that they talk about with like the Egyptians is it wasn't the Egyptians building it, it was the Jews.

So then if the Jews were the ones building this and they're supposed to be this really not smart, intelligent thing, like they're the ones that they're saying build that. Well, take this for example, and this was a good point that another YouTube, I don't know his name, but it was a really

good point. The guys like you're supposed to make me believe that these primitive ass people in Egypt, dynastic Egyptians who they could see them try to make something like a pyramid and it didn't work out. It was, it was good. It was. It was. It was. A great attempt for those. Pharaohs, yeah, but it nothing, nothing compared to that one. Yeah. And they and like Khufu, like they were saying like, yeah, you know, he took credit for a lot of the stuff.

Why not? Oh, yeah, because history is written by the vectors. And if you come in, look at this great thing that is here. Look what I did. Oh, look what I did. Look what my people have done. Look how incredible we are. Like they're not. It's always rewritten going, oh, look at what we've done here to make it seem more empowering, more incredible, more, you know, look at what this is. Yeah, it's funny.

I mean, you brought up, you quoted Napoleon there and it's funny because it's exact same thing. Like I saw this whole crazy thing on Napoleon we had talked about earlier and a dude from like a young age, like young, I think he was like, he didn't even want to be in the military. But there was this big overturning during the revolution and when the King Louis and Marie Antoinette were mermaid. Cake. Yeah, they cut it off their heads and they started killing a

bunch of these people. They there was something for the revolution that they were trying to be able to do. They wanted to be get free. They didn't want a monarchy anymore because America didn't have a monarchy. They wanted a monarchy, but the the government wouldn't allow. So eventually they overthrew it went crazy. And they had asked they were going to do some type of military thing for the IT was against the French government.

And Napoleon was a soldier. He's like, yeah, I'll do it, but you got to let me lead it. And they're like, OK, because they thought they were going to die. He took this small unit and they he just crushed them. He was just naturally gifted at war. And after that they he was like, cool. And they made it independent and they got rid of the king. And he was first council. That's what he called himself close to, like a president at the time. And I was like, oh, what? Then why did he go to war

everywhere else? I didn't understand why Napoleon, all of a sudden he became the president and he's like, yeah, let's go fucking conquer everybody else. Well, the different perspective that I learned was that all these other monarchies that were around him, Spain, England, all these other ones that were just circling, they're like, that's bad, because if there's no longer a king there, that means we're gonna be irrelevant. What happened to their kings? Yeah, so they attacked them. No.

And Napoleon fucked them all up. Interesting. Pushed them out and after they attacked them, he's like I'm just going to start attacking you and took over their land. Well, because it's like, well, you're not going to stop, so I have to change this because you're a king and you're going to see me as a threat as long as this is here. I just balled up like a fucking cat there. I don't know what happened. This weed is weird. He. Just saw snuggling.

I know dude, but no dude, they he just started going. That's how he got into Egypt because he, I mean, without Napoleon bringing his scientists with them and, and convincing because he had to convince a kind of like a board at the time, which would have been like Congress later on. He had to convince them to go to war, but they didn't want to go to war. So he's like, oh, well, we're going to explore these things. But he went down to beat these other guys because he knew he could take him.

And then he just started going up and then out and then he just started kicking everybody's ass. The only reason why he lost in in certain battles was because of. Probably outnumbering. No, it's food. It was supplies. His people were dying, they were getting sick, they were getting killed. Like he tried to to chase Russia and that was a that's that's what did him in. But. And that's a whole another cold front that's.

Dude, like, yeah, you know, the Afghan people, like honestly, if, if we would have look, the US would have won if they didn't have cameras. I'm going to tell you that right now. If we didn't have cameras going all the time, we would have won that war like World War 2, because the things that those guys had to do in World War 2, you could never do that. Now what they did in the Korean War in the when they were doing it in Japan, they were using

flamethrowers. And the reason why it was because the Japanese were so strong, peace, strong willed. They're like, Nope. They wouldn't. Stop. They wouldn't give in. They would keep a. Whole different type of culture. Mentality. Yeah, yeah. And, and their government used their propaganda to scare the people. The reason why they fought us so hard is because they were telling, telling their people that Americans are baby killers, that they're women killers.

They're going to take all of your stuff. Like they hit them hard. Like I'd be if, if they did that type of propaganda now, like Californians are coming into Utah. They're going to rape your women. They're going to steal your things. Oh, wait a minute. That's true. But anyways, no, just kidding. But you know what I mean. That's that's the fear that they would give them. Yeah.

And so they fought so hard. And these I I remember hearing these, like interviews of these, like old codgers from World War 2. And that did the flamethrower. The flamethrower, it, it got kicked out a little different. Oh, it's not level of. Well, you know, I mean the person behind it. Dream a bullet. Can you hear far enough away? It might be way different than burning every single person alive. Dude, the the for me in my head, you know what comes to that

sizzle? The sizzling of slab and screaming 'cause it's not a quick no. That'd be horrendous. But that that these guys were doing that because these Japanese were so embedded that they wouldn't leave like, you know, caves and and pill boxes and stuff to defend themselves. They wouldn't give up. And they were just like, and then but the guys that were talking about it, like one of them, he was just like, he acted like it was no big deal and still didn't feel bad about it.

And but. That's some people who are more psychopathic. And they are those people are built for war. There's like a guy named Sean Shrek McPhee. He calls himself Shrek. They call him the the sheriff of Baghdad, Delta force operator. He seems like he's full of shit, but people who know him are like, no, no, no, that's that's a scary dude. Like, he's not a stand. The guy's like moral guy. Nope, stand up guy. Nope. Warrior. Yep.

He's like that guy is somebody. It's breaking case of war, Break glass in case of war, bring him out 'cause he is. And there's just guys like that. Yeah, like Richard Marsaco, like the Berserker. You. Know when you pull him out and they just. They're just, they're built for war. That's why like certain people are OK with it. It's like in your DNA, right? But dude so much crazy shit has happened and yet we can the only reason why we know we don't do as much. Like you can say a lot of

horrible things happen. We have no idea how horrible it used to be. Like we don't. Yeah, well, we don't even know the horrible extent of everything anyway, even what happens now sometimes. Is no what? We get more of it and that's why they have to hide it more. And well, I think that's why we have so many conspiracies, because they just didn't hide it. Like, do you think the Roman Empire is like, we shouldn't kill people out in the open?

No, I was like, we're gonna do a beheading, we're gonna kill this, we're gonna have this like Colosseum and we're gonna have people die and fight to the death and like. It's all that's when they were going the most poor, like when the games would come up. All of this stuff that you're like, OK, well, it's just different times. But didn't that crazy, like, I mean, during that time with Rome, I mean, there was more of like the state provided a lot more. So you, you know, money they got

exchanged through commerce. It was mostly commerce that was happening. Like like the United States. It's just consumers and getting product from everywhere else, right? It, it just, it's inevitable. Like I just show it like when a country or a nation becomes so focused on consumption that either Sheen or they have to be conquered themselves. Like there's just no peace. There's nowhere in this world except maybe Sentinel Island. Have you heard of that place? No.

You, you can't go there. They have the oldest Indigenous people alive. And they're not like they're not used to anything else. And so going there would there was like with their civilization. There was some type of Christian missionary that tried to go there and he was immediately killed. Yeah. And anybody who's tried to like, save people that have gone over there, like arrows and then they're like helicopters and stuff, so. And. It's like it's just you don't go

there. You're not allowed to go there, and if you try to go there, you'll be arrested and thrown in prison. I believe that. Because the Indian people are, is it Indian or I can't remember, Indonesian people, They're like, you could kill them. Yeah, they're gonna introduce bacteria, germs, things that. They. Are yeah, they're not around anything so you any small thing could wipe out their entire society.

Well, and before a long time ago when, you know, white men were on big ships just grabbing whatever they wanted. And it's not just, yeah, it was predominant. I mean, but I mean, it's all of them include, you know, when they started going out, yeah, it was pretty bad. But anyways, like oh fuck I lost that, damn it. Well, anyways. Thanks God, dog Father. Yeah, Dog father. Hey, guys, pay attention. Next week we got another episode of Cannabis School and we'll have another episode of The Sash.

So pay attention. Love you guys. Take care.

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