Sparking Up with Jeremy from The Greenskeepers – A Fresh Take on Cannabis

I'm Brandon. And I'm. Jesse we're cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations with everyday people, cannabis companies, celebrities and your mom. Welcome to the sesh. Some weird person hit me up on Facebook and they're like, hey, how are you? And it sounded like some Asian lady who's trying to scam me. Yeah, I love those. Like, I had this one. Really funny. You remember that one I told you about with the gold razor?

So I had this guy. He was trying to be, he had hacked somebody that I was connected to on Facebook. And some of these people are people that I knew in high school, which I don't know in high school, I don't know. I don't know these people. They're just kids in passing, but they Remember Me, apparently. So one of them reaches out to me one day and says, hey, I really need help. Like I don't even remember this person level. I'm like, what do you need?

I can't get my prescriptions. I'm like, OK, it's because I just need some money and I'm like, all right, where's the place? Like I'll go in, I'll pay for them, I'll meet you there. And they're like, no, no, no, just send me the money. And I'm like, this sounds 'cause I have a sister recovering. Well, she's not a recovering act. She's been an addict for, I'd say about about 28 years, heroin, Xanax type.

That's her flavor. And, and I was like, yeah, this sounds like somebody just trying to get money from me because I've known this, these conversations with my sister all the time. So I was just like, I don't know about that. I was like, you know, what do you need? And go, well, I just need to go over there. I, I, I just need to get my prescription. I'm like, OK, well, and she go, but do you have any, can you send me like an Amazon gift

card? And I said, oh, I didn't know pharmacies takes Amazon. They go, yeah, yeah, they take them now. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. So what do you need? They go, well, I need a gold Razor Amazon gift card and I'm like, OK, so I look up a gold Razor, those scooters and I'm like, and I send a picture to him. I said Kay, ordered it on the way. Where do you want me to send it? And they go no, no, I need a gold razor card. I'm like, well, what am I going to do with this gold razor?

I don't need this. This is ridiculous. I just spent all this money and they're like no, no, no, no, no. Like to return it and get me a gift card. All right. What kind of gift card from target? So your pharmacies at Target? No, no, no, no, no. But I can use a target gift card. I'm like, you can buy in Target, you can buy that. That's crazy. I got to tell my brother about this because he's got lots of Target gift cards and he could be buying all of his

pharmaceuticals there. It's just like, no, just look, just send me this. I'm like, all right, hold on. Let me get this straight. And I went all the way back to I pissed them off for so long and I screenshot of the whole thing and I gave it to my kids and they were dying. So now they love messing with anybody like that. And I'm like, hey, somebody's trying to get a hold. You guys want to talk to them and my daughter's like messaging

them and. Well, I mean, that's, you know, when you when you mention that and this is going to be weird, like this voice thing. Yeah, dude, no, it's weird. I, I I try to like me too. They get used to, I'm sure. You guys been, it took us years to, I mean, it's been yours. Hearing everything in this room, like, Oh my gosh, it's Neko. Like that's the one that's inside my head all the time. You know. What I'm saying?

No, you did hit a like a couple of key points I think where you know, the world, OK, is looking through a certain type of a lens, right, that that that is all manipulation. Yeah, right. Totally. Are we not being manipulated 100%? You know what I mean? You did mention there a little bit about family members that might have been on, you know, certain things and and people acting that same way. That's The thing is that that vibration is real. Yeah, right. It is plaguing the earth that

we're we're walking on, right. Yeah. I think those are the things, though, myself having a son, I think we talked a little bit there. You know, Logan. Logan went through a period of his life where where he, you know, did some, you know, some things, made some choices. And as a parent, we had to come back and make that choice. I ended up in a situation where when, you know, with him, where he was crying out to me asking for for, you know, asking for money, asking for things that he

needed. And I had to boil it down to this point of like, well, hey, if you need gas in your car and you need food. Let me get that. Let me get that for you, you know, but you're not going to take anything else from me and that boundary like you have to put up. Is that really hard to to set? That's a hard one. I mean, you're especially when, you know, like if you come in and say, you know, that's my child. Yeah. And half of the trauma that he's dealing with right now might be

because of you. Yeah, and that's a hard realization too, of like, crap. Am I like, is this because of me? Am I helping or hindering? Like am I enabling this or am I you know? Well, exactly. And you stop and you look at like, you know, the scams that even go on with the elderly. Oh, big time. Right. And how even families take care of, I mean, taking advantage of their own, you know, just the elderly in different things, right. So it this same thing is happening in all kinds of circles.

You. Know all kinds of things and we do have family you know that that that we'd have to sit back and watch. Are we learning lessons? Of course we are, right. And we learned, we tried, we know, we got to set up our boundaries, we got to put our place in it. And so that's what you're doing.

And, and, and to be able to have, you know, at least the insight to be able to see into that and that that there is a scam and there is somebody trying to, you know, and to try to work that, you know, that thing like, sorry, you, you just can't con me here. You know, that's the funny part. Well, and that's the thing too, like you know, when in talking about your boy and talking about my sister, you know, the the difficulty is I, I used to get really mad like this is you

against them. But the only thing is, is that we we all have the opportunity to be able to obtain vices, right? We obtain them. We don't seek them out. We just get them. We pick them up like like with the keys or, you know, dog shit on your shoe. It's not, it's not saying that one's less than the other. We just pick these things up and sometimes they stick and sometimes they don't.

And I've known a lot of people like, you know, throughout my time after my service in the Navy, I got out, I went crazy, was just hanging out doing, I mean, if somebody handed me a drug, I would do it. The only, only place I was like, here's the line is heroin. I'm like, I don't touch it just because I've seen too much. But everything else, bring it on. And throughout that process, like knowing that I don't need that. I don't want that, I don't want that.

I mean I hurt my shoulder a long time ago and dude it was during the big opiate push with lots of surgeons and I have not had that. Orthopedic surgeon did. I had a script of 30 lower tabs 7 point fives every Friday filled every week. Every week I had it filled and I was in, I thought it was like, it was awesome. Like I come home from work and I'm I'm going to pop a few pills and I'm going to clean my apartment with my buddy. Like that's all we would do. I just get high and do that.

But it was just this feeling. I'm like, I don't like this. And then what pushed it was I just like, you know, I should ask him to see if I can get more. So I said, hey, these seven fives aren't doing anything. He's like all up at the 10. So I'm getting thirty 10s every Friday. But my body was just like, it's like eating like lots of fast food. You're just like, I really need a home cooked meal. This is just not good. And I just stopped.

But I kept picking up the scripts and I would put them in a box and I'm like, maybe I can use them someday, but I don't need them. And then somebody broke in our apartment, one of our friends, and he stole it and left me a check for $1500. He's like, hey, man, thanks a lot. And I'm like, I'm not talking to you ever. You stole it from me. You could have just asked me and I and I would have told you, I

don't want you to do that. But there's a lot of people out there that all they need to do is try it a few times. And they're just like, I like this feeling because I can escape who I am. And that's the hard thing to to think about to realize because I don't feel that way on cannabis. It's not usually trying to escape yourself with cannabis.

No, you, you're more Hans. Perspective, you're more focused, you're more like analytical of or hyper analytical of yourself and versus like, you know, most of the other drugs where you like I said, it's numbing and disassociative and you're like, oh cool. Well, it's way different feeling than connecting. No. And and then that's, I mean, I think that, you know, on, on we're all on a journey. He'll he'll, he'll me say that, probably. A lot, yeah. No, we're on a journey.

You know, you touched on, I touched on having family members that that tried harder drugs, right? And I think that's that reality, You know, for myself especially, you know, coming from the culture that we live in, from, you know, the, you know, growing up in Salt Lake, you know, the LDS church, we can put, you know, so many different things in, in, in, in just where we live.

And the hurdles that we had to jump out, you know, jump through of just the families and the and and and the disconnection that is really kind of, you know, going kind of rapid everywhere, you know, rampant, I guess I'd say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did the same thing like, you know, my, my father was an alcoholic, OK, my mother medicated with cannabis. It, you know, I mean, a a lot pretty good 16 or whatever. It kind of started this journey,

right? And, you know, she would drink, she would do other things, but she was just a cannabis girl. And I mean, even to this day, that's that. I mean, that's mom. She's still medication. That's awesome. You know, so do you guys have sessions together? You know, we have not. So here's kind of that. I mean, here's kind of this thing. It's been this sounds.

You have to. And before we get into that, today's session is actually brought to you by Beehive Gardens, Beehive Brands. Yeah, what's strange? Jeremy brought us this beautiful. So nice. So in this is what I've I've got to figure out, it says Buzz, lemon sherbert and Chemdog. So I'm wondering if it's like a hybrid of all of those or if it's just lemon sherbert and Chemdog and Buzz is just what their label beginning. Is their buzz, is their label.

I think yeah, OK, cool. It's the beehive. It says Buzz right on the other. Side dude, that's awesome. I like that. That's pretty cool. And you know, this is cool 'cause this is like, we haven't tried a lot of other Utah strings because we've been so partial to Dragonfly one. It's because their quality is super high. And then two, I've just, we just haven't had a relationship with any of the other ones, so. I mean, but I will, I will say this lemon Sherburton chem dog

smells delicious. Yeah, it smells great. It looks. Well, it's really frosty to me. Look at that. Like whole. Green, you guys need to understand like for me with when it comes to flower, I'm just been kind of a vape car guy. Yeah, it's so much easier. For yeah, I mean, but that's but that's the smell. I mean, there's a things that kind of come with this where and I do. That's the best part right there, just smelling it. Right. Isn't it though?

I mean just to smell the flower. Yeah, so, well, that's so we had a guy on back before the sash ever it happened. A guy called, his thing was the gentleman Toker or Joe Turney, and he always said the nose, nose. And we talked about that like if you you have a bunch of strains or you're going and can actually check them out, like smell it, your body will tell you it'll go, yeah, this really smells

good to you. It's like pheromones, like the right strain is going to be attracted to you, right? Right. Oh. Dude that's so good. What's? It smells delicious. Sorry, I closed that. No thanks a lot. Yeah, I was like, that's what I always do, is just like push it against it sideways. So I mean, I do have to like back in the back in my early days, back in my 20s and even before that I, I did, I did partake of a lot of cannabis flour. I used to dabble in in distribution of it at one point

in my life. That's right. You told us about that. Actually, I wanted to go into that because it's such a cool pass to get you up to where you are right now. And, and one of the things that I really want to be able to give. Well, one of the things we want to give that our audience is that you, we have the crazy story of how this happened. This is nuts. And how Jesse met Jeremy.

Yeah, and, and I'm going to tell the first part and I want Jenny Jeremy to finish the last part 'cause that was the coolest part. So we have a, a mutual friend and, and you guys have heard me talk about 12 Shapes. 12 Shapes has changed my life. And you know, we were, we had a, we had a pop tire. I was meeting up with this lady, her name is Kim Giles, the founder of 12 Shapes. We're meeting up in the morning for breakfast and some business stuff. Her tire pops and she's like, I

got to pull over. She pulls into a parking lot, parks, there she goes. I know where it is. Gets an Uber, meets us for breakfast, 'cause I was introducing this woman, We're going to build a fundraiser for this nonprofit that she has. And she's like, hey, look like, you know, they go, we're going to split it into three checks and I forgot my debit card. So I'm like, hey, why don't you give me my breakfast and, and I'll get you back.

And she goes, no, no, no, actually, why don't you drive me over to my car and that will cover it. And I'm like, all right, fair enough. Right. So that's the first sign. Like things are supposed to go this way. And then we drive there and as we're driving there, she goes, oh, off on 33rd. So I get off on on 33rd South up in Salt Lake City. And then we pull and she goes, oh, it's at this golf course. I'm like, oh, OK, get out, go

over there. And I'm thinking, OK, well, let's I'll help you change your tires. She's like, no, you probably have somewhere to be. And I always say like, doesn't matter what's going on. I'm like, you know, I'm supposed to be where I'm supposed to be. And right now I'm supposed to be here. So whatever's going to happen is going to happen. She goes, but you probably got meetings and stuff. I'm like, doesn't matter. I'm supposed to be here, so I'm trying to help figure out the tire.

That tire was fucked. It was driving me nuts. It's a Jeep. If you own a Jeep, fuck Jeep. Because I'll tell you why these weird assholes are like, they're like Saab and and Volkswagen. The lug nuts are not they're they're not lug nuts. They're lug bolts.

Oh, and they go right. In they go right into the rotor and it's just a pain in the ass and nothing's fitting it and I'm trying to get it off and all I find is this like and I I come back and there's this there's a guy in the back and he's in this like mechanic shop for golf carts and and he's pushing the broom around and and you know he's just sweeping it up and I'm like this guy's going to think I'm a Jag off, but I'm going to come up and say hi to him anyways.

Hey man, how's it going? I said look, I need a little bit of help. Do you have like a like a? Ratchet or a? Wrench, I need to get this little bolt off because I thought this little bolt was holding the spare tire. Yeah, but it turns out, and Jeremy came over and confirmed it. He's like lever. No, they just put a pump in there. What? The all the new cars and you, you're listening and you're like, yeah, my car has got one of those too. But a pump, it's just an it's an electric.

Pump and I'm just having to confirm this 100% because I just my my daughter has the same car. Yeah, yeah, he was telling us about. That it does not have a spare tire. And so we go back to the dealership of like, hey, I don't have a spare tire. They literally hand her like a pump and said, here it is. And so an air pump. Yeah, an air pump, right? Oh, just to pump up your tire, but. Hundred, 100%. So you're sitting there going, OK, well, this is simple if you're anywhere else, right?

If you're anywhere else, this might work. Except where we were, right? Oh my. Gosh, The the the tire had what did what did? Yeah, got him the the tire. It was we all I thought was this is what I had in my internal monologue. I'm like, well fuck me now I'm just going to have depression when I'm trying to pump up my tire and it just keeps leaking air. I'm like, this is like an insult to injury. Oh, so it was a really big hole. Oh dude, there was a big gash in there.

It was like a Jeremy found. Cause Jeremy's like, oh, I've got a, I've got a pump and I'll bring it over. There's a little teeny compressor. He starts filling up it's and he's like, yeah, that you're going to have to get that replaced. Going out as fast as it's going in, yeah. He tells us this little tire place in Salt Lake and they were the coolest. Nobody's there. It was like travelling back in time. We never showed you, but you just push that white part down.

Oh yeah, dude, yeah, we didn't. See that leather? The white part just pushes down. Push on it Told you guys I'm a rookie. No, no, no, no. You're good. We're a rookie. So this is. How you clear it? You don't have to pull the ball out though. Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. It like kind of cool. This is like high tech. Yeah, it's a indestructible bong, this is. I love that it's water. I mean back in the day that was like water. Bong was the way, dude.

This way here real quick, we're going to put a pause on the story. I want you to take a hit and I want you to go when you when you clear it, it's the smoothest hit from any bong we've ever tried. This was sent to us and it sat in my closet for six. Months we didn't even touch it because we were like, oh we got a ton of shit. This isn't our favorite looking one. And then we tried it out one episode and it was like, Oh my God, this is the best piece ever.

This is the only one we use on the show, yeah. OK, well let's give this. A yeah, yeah, yeah. So light it, but. Yeah. Start pulling and then when you clear it, that's that's the cool part that was cool we. Didn't even tell you. I was like, yeah, but you don't have to pull the top. Like pull the bowl out or? Anything. No, dude. And it's so clean. Plus you got yeah, yeah, no, let it fill a little bit like, well, everybody on who's listening saying. Go, go, go, go. No, don't pull.

Don't pull the carb yet. Pull it to fill it. Oh, after you fill it. So let it fill and then push the carb down and it'll. It'll just clear. Sorry, now it's loading it. Up a little, there you go. Now, now go go ahead and and start pulling and then push it down. I guess you could let your breath out if there you. Go. There you go. Yeah. For. Everybody, it's a smooth hit that. Is nice. Isn't it these this? You can taste everything. It's a it's a it's pretty, it's a super small company.

Yeah, it's like a one man band almost. But this is the best bong. And he's like, yeah, I'll send you guys out another one. And then that never happened because? He's super busy. So busy. But the cool thing is, is that people been going and getting it. Like that's cool 'cause it is. It's heavy. And this is their smallest one. That's the, that's the extra small. The other ones are massive. They're so cool but so clean. Yeah, my cousin bought like

their large one. It's about that tall, I think. The bowls are just perfect, you can't clean it with anything except ISO. Back in the back in the good old days we had a A4 foot bong. Oh yeah. And. It's name was King Louie. Oh, that's beautiful. King Louie had a buddy. Jeff Stillman had this big old, I mean, it was King Louie and it man. So let me ask you, because you've been in the cannabis, around cannabis, it sounds like

your entire life, yes. What do you notice in the difference of quality between when you first entered into cannabis? Oh yeah. 'Cause I mean you. You. Notice a difference? Yeah, you're an old. You're an OGI AM. I am an OG but it sounds like you. Ran in some good solid. The thing was is I mean. Kush was kush then though.

Kush was kush, but see you know when it when it get back into the roots like I and I, I used like my father was my father was he was very big into cannabis through the 90s. He ran a distribution ring out of Juarez, Mexico for the Aguirre organization that trafficked cannabis throughout the United States. My father was instrumental in in building the illegal compartments in. Transportation. Transportation, yeah.

He had an opportunity that came before him and he, he did his best at it. And so through, you know, my teenage years, it was kind of a, a big part of our lives. It kind of controlled, you know, a lot of our life. Dude, let's go into that actually. So we're going to put a pin in my story because that's actually going to go really well towards the end, and I'm glad we're pausing it. Jeremy's story is so cool and unique. Let's start with that.

Like, talk about how early was that in your life? Your dad's doing this. What what was that like? What was life like during that time for you and your family? And what did you know? And then what did you realize later on? Well, the big thing was is like cannabis in my world was, you know, I having all the wake 100% confirmed it with mom, but it could have been used in the in the womb. OK, maybe that's a conversation we have to. Have so you're imprinted early.

So I'm imprinted early in my DNA strand, OK. You already knew from the start. I was I I already came out of the womb like needing a Jones and just like, right, I mean, that's. That's just going sideways. And I hope and I hope mom don't like, like, Take Me Out like that, but that's OK. That's awesome. She was still a cool mom. I mean, of course she would grow cannabis in the backyard amongst the tomato plants. And where was this? This is in Sandy, UT.

Dude right here in Sandy. Utah Coca-Cola. I grew up in the same house my whole life. Yeah, went to Mid Valley Elementary School, went to Union Middle School and I should have been, I should have attended Hillcrest High School. Kind. Of had to either Hillcrest or Jordan but was more the Hillcrest side. But at this little point in time, I ended up 9th grade year down in a small town in southern Utah called Enterprise, UT. Yeah, we're aware of that one, OK. How was that making that change

as like a freshman? As a freshman, it was so it was so hard because I'm coming out. Oh yeah. I mean, and I mean, I'm getting, I'm getting pulled out of a lifestyle because my, my parents are getting a divorce is happening right here. They're splitting the weed. They're splitting the weed. And dad is no, they are. I mean, they're literally said and he's down and out. I mean, there's some things happening and he gets this cannabis company handed to him, right? So. Here some Walter White.

On a silver platter on. A on a silver, literally on a silver platter. So you run it here. You run it and you do it because you're the white guy, right? And I, I don't mean to throw that in there, but this is. 'Cause it was a bunch of panic. Well. I'm not we. I'm not we. We understand, We understand. Yeah, don't worry, I. I was not that. There's no racial nothing. Here not rather one of my hey. I just had to give you and I see. That though?

Come on. If you listen to no, no, he's just fucking with me. And, and the whole thing is like, know that like I, I literally am color blind. I only see people's behaviors. Yeah, and, and their behaviors are language and that's all I want to speak. I don't give a fuck where they're from or what you look like. Like here's an example. My brother-in-law, he's from, he's from Nigeria, right?

And he is black. Like, you know, like the two blackest guys back in the day in the 90s in Hollywood, Eddie Murphy and Wesley Snipes, right? Nobody was blacker. Except for this. Guy. Yeah. And this guy's really bite. And so we go to Lava Hot Springs for a family vacation and he's new. He he married in, he married my sister-in-law, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. Well, actually it was like in February. Yeah, it was good. Yeah. About five. Yeah, a little bit a little

while ago. And he's just not really social and he's a little, I'm leaning towards he's on the spectrum because I, I'm, I know a lot about the spectrum. I've been dealing with it for 14, not dealing with it, but learning about it and living with it for 14 years with my son. And I just wanted to mess with him because he never laughs. So he get up there and he's like, and I said, oh, hey, I didn't think you were because he surprised his wife. He said he wasn't coming.

Then he came up OK, very unlike him. But he gets up there and I'm like, I really was looking forward to not being here. And he's like, what do you mean by that? And I'm like, well, because, I mean, I came up here to work on my tan and how am I supposed to compete with you? And he starts laughing and he goes, I do not have a tan. I'm like, yeah, you do. I was like, I was going to come over here going, what's your secret, Crisco? Like you just rub that shit all

over your skin. He goes, why would I put Crisco on my skin? I'm like, I love this. I love that autism side of it. And I'm just like, of course I was like, Nah, Nah. But he was laughing. He's like, and he kept laughing. And the reason why I was laughing, it was illogical to him. He's like, but I am from Africa and I'm black and, and it was just so funny. And he and I said, do you care about this? He goes your arm. I was like, yes. He's like, I mean, I don't know

what you mean. I said, 'cause I don't see your colour, dude. I'm not, I'm not trying to change to be like you. I don't need to. And I said it's just people. Amen. And he's just like, yeah, So I, I will frequently say a lot of racist shit. And it's all in fun because I grew up with racism. I, I didn't know it was racism. I just thought people like picking fights with me. And I was training in martial arts. So I'm like, well, OK, kind of makes sense, right?

Maybe God's doing this right. Right, right. God's like. You will learn how to fight to hurt these, these other people. And like, all right, I mean, God said so. But going through all that whole process, I didn't understand racism. I really didn't like, I just thought it was cool. There was one black kid in my school. I went to Mountain View High. Like we're close to the same age. How? How old are you? I'll be 50 this year. Yeah, so I'm five years younger. I would not have guessed, no.

He knows. So what would you say though? I would say you're about my age or younger and you're, yeah, I'm 40. Five. Yeah, I was like 4445, maybe I. Get 43 a a lot and maybe 2 to 40 and I'm like oh sweet. No, it's I'm like. I've got grandkids, guys. I've got grandkids that's. How old is your? How old's your youngest? My youngest is 22. Holy. Cow. Wow. I mean, I'm just on the verge of empty nesting. Yeah, that's wild. Wow, is how is that? That's wild. Like going from you said you had

three kids. I've got three boys, six children. 06 children just in the conversation. I only have five that I know of. Well, because that's. What we got to the story? Yeah, that's where we're at in the story. So, yeah, Crazy, man. Six kids. It just it this is the cool. This is the cool source. OK, I'm going to stop it there, but rewind. Yeah, see, this is really good. I was going to say. It's not. I mean this is like the calming. Yeah, it's super calm.

It's relaxed. I mean, if I have to cook, I mean like like vibrationally it's good. Like it's just a. Good. Yeah. You give us your review. Seriously. Give us your review. This is awesome. What do you what do you like about it? Where are you feeling it 'cause I feel it all over. I've got it in my my elbows, in my arms, my toes. I think I mean, am I? Yeah. That he mentions.

It I mean, is that not like the part though, when you finally, I mean, how long did it take you to be able to feel your toes though in line? I mean think about it like to. I mean to. Are we talking about when I was in Inception or I don't know. I'm saying, you know, like to be able. To I was in the womb, I was doing. I can feel my toes. I can feel my toes. I don't know.

No no seriously because I have I have diabetic neuropathy and the medicine has been taking away but it still tingles a little bit but I know exactly what you mean. Like it literally makes my feet feel warm. It wasn't until I did meditations with cannabis that I started to notice because I would do meditating like a little bit before I really got back into cannabis. And then I just like when I noticed, when I would meditate, that's what I would notice all throughout my body more.

But that's because I was finally becoming present, yes. And a lot of my other times I was way too anxious and stuck in my head and all this other stuff. So I wasn't allowing myself to just be present, didn't feel everything. So. Well, and I so, so, so that's the part like people like, oh, you're, you know, you're 50 or whatever. I'm going, there's a little, it's hard to be able to tell the people of like what cannabis really, you know, can do for

you, right. And when you do slow down to those states, I've been able to get into a few little mindfulness where I'm trying to heal my body, right? But the only way that I can heal my body is to heal the internal self, right? And once you are mindful of that, then you can start healing your body, yeah. Right, because like there's all these things that talk about like the body keep the score or, you know, it hangs. On to your memories. And all these other things and.

Those books are amazing. I mean, I and, and you come and go, OK, when you finally learn that and say, OK, I'm going to, I'm going to start doing this right. I'm going to start taking care of myself. I was 305 lbs. What? I was 305 lbs. I would never have guessed. You look fantastic, 100. And 85 now, right? But again, a journey that you can have, but until you love yourself enough, you can't reverse anything. You can't even manifest that you want to be. Healed. You want to be healed.

Right, you don't even know. You don't even know. Yeah, but if you don't know how to feel your toes. Yeah, right. How can you heal your feet? Well, or or if you can see them. Yeah, but I mean it's. Right. Right, that's a struggle too. Yeah, You know, like, I mean, that's the thing like nobody thinks about, like a good friend of ours, Bennett Maxwell. Do you know Bennett? I do not. OK, but that's got to happen because you guys will get along great. Bennett owns Dirty Dough Cookie.

OK. And you know, Bennett was around about that, but he he he's no, he was, he was 310 lbs. And now he's 200 lbs. He's he's a. Big guy. He's a pretty muscular guy. He's solid, 200, maybe 195, but I was around 2/25, 2:30 at my heaviest. But at for me it was, I didn't think I was heavy. You'd like when you were heavy. You don't. It's just you. It, it was just me and I think that's the, that's the part where, you know, I pushed myself all the way to, to type 2 diabetes. I'm there.

High blood pressure Yep. I mean I was taken ever like having to take everything. I mean I, I, I did not know who I was. What was that switch? What changed? Suffering, right? I mean, cool, because there was a point where I did, you know, and then this is the crazy part when you're like trying to put loving yourself a little bit. And you know, I ended up, you know, at my doctor, you know, like they trusted, right. And we got down because I had somebody tell me, Hey, you might

be ADHD, right? And I'm working at a pretty high level volume job. I'm general manager of Multi $1,000,000. Basic. Fabrication company, OK oil field and gas and then and mining a lot of stuff in gold mines. That's cool, we have a lot of mines here surprisingly. Oh, yes, since I've worked in quite a few of them, did a lot up in in Kennicott, a lot of the salt mines, different things, but kind of doing that stuff, yeah.

That's really. Cool, but along that journey, is that that part of, you know, loving yourself enough? I had was trying to listen to individuals that were actually, you know, trying to, I guess to get me to be better, right, because I wasn't producing enough, you know, I'd, I'd, I'd kind of, but man, I was, you know, very heavy.

You know, they were even trying to get me to the CrossFit gym, you know, as we going to the CrossFit gym, you know, they were trying but said, Hey, you might be ADHD. Go, go check it out. You know, and I didn't understand, you know, OK, maybe I will. And so, you know, made a point with my doctor. We went in, we sat down, I said, hey, the couple of people are telling you might be ADHD. And I took his test. He ran through the model and this is a guy I trusted.

I mean, he's like, he's like state president the guy latest. I mean, there's a bunch of things, you know, just growing up here in Utah, I mean, there's certain things without that relationship where you think that, you know, you're trusted. And I trusted the guy and I'm like, hey, I even trusted the guy that told me, hey, you might be ADHD, right? Yeah. So I go, I get the medication,

right. And I, I remember like the first time I'm sitting in the, in the in Birch family Pharmacy, out in the, out in the, the pharmacy there, dude. And I'm like opening up this bag going, OK, what's what's this going to do to me right now? Right. And not knowing and, and, and, and I am, I'm, I'm fat. I'm I'm at my wit's end, like and and here I am getting having a boss telling me I'm not producing when we just, you know. Yeah, make you feel like.

That we, we just told and we just sold, you know, $30 million worth of mining equipment, right? And like, it's still not enough, right? And I'm trying and his only thing is, hey, go get on some ADHD medication. And so I think, well, Dang, OK, I'll go do that, right? Let me go see my trusted Dr. tells me here, this is what you need. So I'm sitting in that farming pharmacy parking lot and I open it up and I-10 milligram pill, right? And I'm like, I don't think I need that much.

Maybe I because I didn't even know what Adderall did, to be honest, to the honest engine stuff. Like my kids had one son that was on some at one time and I didn't know what it did, right. And so I'm like, OK, well, maybe it's good. And here I am, like 40 years old and finally realizing that I might be ADHD. Like, OK, I've ran some pretty, pretty successful businesses that I've done, you know, stuff and I've travelled the world. But like, but yeah, maybe that had something to do with it.

I don't know, but I finally like, OK, let me take this medicine. So I talk and I and I and I pop it and I'm like, OK, it's not working. And wait there about 10 more minutes and OK, and I put the car in reverse and I go to leave the parking lot and it kicks in as I'm driving down the road, like right. And I'm like, holy shit. This is like what it used to feel like when I was on Wii. Really. It literally lit me up. It literally hit some neutrons.

It hit whatever the ping and the dopamine that it opened up was the right receptor because I at this time I was also on Zoloft, OK, I'm like 100 milligrams of Zoloft, 30 milligrams, whatever it was at the time. And I've tried everyone in the book in this 20 year period, right? Because I'm trying to you know that hard thing. It was because of my faith, OK, along this journey because you know, you had to fit in the kind of a box a little bit of what I was doing. Who you are?

Who I am or? Present to be. And present to be. And I had to keep it in this little box. And that was kind of like my reality of like, well, I'm doing it and I'm, I'm checking all the boxes, right? I'm checking them all. And you know, what kind of came to this, you know, realization of like, well, as long as I'm doing it by the book, it's OK. Yeah. And so 5 milligrams turned into 10 milligrams, 10 milligrams turned into 20 milligrams, right. My shit started getting in

check. I ended up at the CrossFit gym. I ended up starting to lose weight. My house was Immaculate. My garage was perfect. I did not have a flower that was out of place in the garden. I had all of my stuff was so in check and I was booming, booming. And I was chasing for more. I was chasing. I was going to OK, but is it got to be like 4050 milligrams a day? Yep. And I'm hiding all this, though, from even my wife. I, I mean, at least, you know, I

had the prescription. She didn't know I'm taking as much as I was. And I've gone back to the doctor a couple of times and up the dose. Just saying, hey, you know what, I'd kind of found a way just around it. And he, we just had such a trust factor with each other that it didn't, it didn't matter. Yeah, it didn't affect. It dude, everything you're saying right now, like down to the moment you took that pill, I know 'cause I was on Adderall a long time ago.

And what you're describing like everything, dude, I went through all of that. I, I don't really, I mean, I kind of remember the first time I smoke weed, but I remember the day I took that pill. I remember how it made me feel, what I accomplished. I was it was amazing. And the weight started just like people were really concerned. I was like down to 140 lbs. I didn't look like that since I was a teeny shit. Right. And I was just like, whoa. But I thought it was amazing.

And it just like you said, I started on five greens, right? The little 5 milligram. Yeah, yeah, the blue. Yeah, greenish blue. And you take, see, that's pretty fucked up, bro. And then you take that and you're like, whoa, but it wasn't an extended release. And then you get the extended release going, no, I don't like that because then it takes longer. I need it now. And then you find yourself

crushing them by chewing them. And then you start snorting them because you want to go faster and you want to feel that way. And it goes from 5:00 to 10:00 to 20 to 40 is exactly that. Dude, I that whole thing, I just. Have a flashback You resonated. The whole time, and you know what I was thinking? I'm like, yeah, I missed that feeling of you just feel accomplished, like all your mind

does is like that. And it makes sense what you just said about it feels like weed because it slows everything down. But what? But what I had to realize of what it triggered on the other side of that was this very intense ego. Yep. OK, this is like ego on steroids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. I know exactly what you're talking. About and at the time, at the time in my life, I was actually like doing some growth hormone of different things because I'd lost the weight.

I'm fine. I mean, it's coming off like gangbusters. And we're at the CrossFit gym and you know, you're just doing it. It's just the guys you're with and just everything that's going and, you know, everything's clicking right. And I think that's that period where egos took over so much, right? But it was not going to let me and, and, and, and I'm very grateful at this point in my life. OK, This is probably one of the most humbling experiences that I had to go through.

OK. But that's the part of the story where we've gotten to a couple of times where, you know, I ended up with my daughter in Colorado at a softball tournament. She's he's my kid. We travelled along a lot trying to fulfill her dream of being a a collegiate softball player. She was able to fulfill that dream. Awesome.

That's cool. She is now in Nebraska, starting her first year as a high school teacher, teaching gym and the high school weight class, and she's coaching softball in Nebraska City, NE. Wow. We just moved him out there two weeks ago, so. That's. Hard. She was with me in this journey too. Like they've all been right, but I'm literally had got on to wit's end and I'm like freaking pop and alga seltzer roll aids at different times 'cause my gut's just getting eaten up.

I'm just, life is so high stress, right, with everything, even taking the stuff and you're having to take more to get you where you are. And I woke up in the middle of the night and I'm just, I mean, I'm, I'm tapped out. I mean, we've been traveling. You look at the life and how crazy we were going, how crazy I was going, but we had to keep it going. That's the part. It was like, this is for my kid. I mean, like, so it's like part of the story too, right? So you're like, OK, what

happened here? But we're sitting in a hotel and I'd gotten up and didn't have any Rolaids and I've got like heartburn like so freaking bad. And I'm gut problems. You know, I've been, I've just ulcers, I've suffered from ulcers. I suffered from this time distress ulcers, right? But also ibuprofen added on it too, though, like through this journey and they've like getting some gut stuff when you're taking like 800 milligrams a

day, but all the time. But those things that we did to ourselves to make it suffer or whatever, I suffered to my wit's end, I guess. I mean, that's the only thing I could put into play. And I needed some Alka seltzer, needed some Tums. I jumped in the car, left to lock the door, went out, jumped to the car, drove down the road. It's kind of crazy stand up at a Maverick station, right? Like go Maverick or whatever, but yeah, right. I I I dude, I won money from Maverick. No. What?

OK, Wait, wait, wait. Keep going where you're at. I want to go back to the cause. We've got all the time in the world, dude. So tell us at all. Tell us at all. So we're here. OK, we're here. We'll bring this back. Sorry, no worries. Drive into the Maverick and literally I'm just hurting. I'm just, you know, you got that whole just give me the freaking stuff.

This is what I need. And I'm literally get out of the car and whatever, however I was talking to myself or whatever was whispering into my ear says to me like, Hey, you need to go talk to that homeless guy over there. And I'm like, what freaking homeless guy? I I this is honest engine stuff. You guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I hear you. I've experienced this a lot. I'm like, no, I don't like. I've got to get.

The stuff. The stuff in me right now, in me right now literally walk into the Maverick. I go over and grab a water because I know I need the water to wash it down right. Come back around. I'm looking for the Tums and I'm here and there and finally find him. Get up to the the check stand and again I set it down and it comes to me again. I'm like, you got to talk to the homeless guy sitting out front and I'm like, I can't do it like the I. Taking care of me here. So I'm fighting it.

I'm fighting this, this, this thing. I get outside the door. I don't even get them open, right? I'm like, at least give this thing. And I, I don't, I finally have to surrender to this crap, right? And I set them down in the car. I shut the door. I walk back over like I don't have time for this. I'm saying these things to myself as I'm walking up to a homeless man sitting by the garbage can, literally by the garbage can. And I'm like, hey, like, my name is Jeremy Frischnick. You're OK.

And, and, and this badge that I wore, I might have even said, like, I'm a missionary from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Like, how can I help you or whatever? Because that's the badge I was wearing. And I didn't know why I was there or whatever, right? And I like, sat there. And he like, looks up at me and he's like, hey, dude, like how you doing? And I'm like, I'm doing good. Like, can I help you with anything, right? Can I help you? And he turns, he looks up and he

says, no, I'm here to help you. I'm like what? This fucking trippy. Yeah, I'm like. What, like you're here to help me? I'm like, you're here to help me. And he's like, yeah, I'm here to help you. I said, OK, how are you going to help me? And he opens up his bag. Opens up his bag. And it had dude, there was like this big bag of change in there to like coins. Like he might have robbed a freaking like, like like robbed a, a place, a place or like, you know, like a, a coin dispensing place.

And that's kind of what I was visually like, you know, just came out of the armored car. Right, that's right. I'm like, so that's. Kind of weird, like I, I don't need your, I don't need your money, you know? Yeah, I look over there and they're like, there's a, an angel's hat, like from the angels is inside the bag. And then off to the little corner, there was this little container of Chiba chews, chocolate. Chiba chews is what it was called, OK.

And at this time in my life, like, I knew that like, cannabis was in Colorado. I mean, there was this time that I was kind of like, maybe hoping to experience, or at least before I died, you know, again, I'll be at this present time in my thoughts and where life was because there was a part where I thought cannabis at one time was pretty evil. Yeah, me too. I got to be honest. Totally. Me too.

Got to there was evil, right? Even though that played a big part of my life, it was kind of evil. It was kind of dark, right? So I didn't know how to take that. But I went ahead and accepted an offering from him when he pulled it out of the bag OK and offered me the Chiba chews and said I was supposed to take them with me. Yeah. OK, he wanted to give me the angels hat because he kept telling me I was an Angel, OK, But I decided to let him keep

that that hat. And The thing is, is along this journey of this thing of meeting this guy and after these transactions happened, he was trying to get back home to I believe what was West Virginia. And I ended up helping him purchase a, a ticket to take a Greyhound bus to get home to see his grandmother. And I was in contact with her kind of through the process of getting, getting him there.

And it found out that he was suffering from schizophrenia and a few things, but he was able to find his way back home. And like, so those little paradigms of things coming together, like it was just, you know, people helping people.

Because at the time, I didn't realize what a blessing he'd actually kind of given me. And when I finally humbled myself down enough to say that it was OK to eat the Chiba chew, let me tell you that Adderall and cannabis probably might not be the best mix for right out of the gates, right? Especially when it's a Chiba chew and you don't know how much to take dose you don't. Even know what the dose. Is I like everybody? Does they go like?

I'll eat this and I'll eat the whole thing because it's like, oh, it's chocolate. Or whatever right? Did you eat? The whole thing. I ate the whole thing, geez. OK. So let's say that my daughter, I mean, it kind of happened in the weirded. We ended up on it. Nothing weird happened, but she noticed a different in her father. Yeah. OK, Now what's going on? Right. But that was part of the realization in it. And it got bad again for a minute.

OK. Because you know, when the culture that we live in and when my wife finally found out that some things weren't, you know, when I'm lying, I mean, I mean, let's say you're, you're hiding it. I mean, you're doing some things and even in a marriage that aren't cool, right? Because you're trying to be who you are though, right? You're trying to like.

I know this is good for me. I'm seeing the benefits and the values, but I don't know how to. Submit this Yeah, I don't know how to do that because it's evil. In yeah, in what we've grown up or known, it's demonized. And so it's like, how do I have that communication on this? Oh yeah. 100% like, I mean these are those like you almost feel like you're a pioneer, right? I mean, we're. Just yeah. Totally right. So it's a covered wagon. How do we have this?

Conversation. Guys. Yeah. Like, like guys, are you like you like, I don't know, you know? Like you guys seen this shit? Are your wives? Doing the same thing. I mean, this is like it's like right. And so there's that reality and you're like, Dang, this is and and I might have got a little bit weird, a little like hyperetic because I didn't know the dose yet. I mean, that's the thing I'm trying to figure out just your dosing, dosing, but.

Isn't that crazy though? Because I, I mean, what you're talking about is the same thing Brandon brought to me. He he got me a cart from from Colorado. OK, I will never forget that cart because it was this little black one that had this little nub on the end. So it was like a stylus for your phone. I'm like, brilliant, you're going to get stoned and fuck around on your phone. That sounds awesome. Like I never used it for that though, right? But that's what you I mean that's.

What you that's what they think. You go, oh, that's cool and useful. And then you're like, that's so not useful. But I remember where I hid it in my house and I would keep it there. And it was my little secret. And my wife never knew. My wife's, she knows. I mean, if she didn't know, she knows right now and I don't know why I've never told her the reason why I really liked enjoying mowing the lawn. It was I get I I didn't know the dose. He's just like. Just here's a pen take.

Here's a pen and I'm like cool. Oh. I didn't know dosing. At that time, I still figured out no clue and I just, I was taking like three or four hits and I'm sensitive. I'm, I'm still sensitive to cannabis and Oh my gosh, I was so high. I thought the I was tilting with the earth as it was rotating and I'm trying to push a lawn mower and I'm like, oh, and my wife's and the lawn was not big. You remember my old lawn, it's small and it would take Me 2 1/2 hours to cut that damn lawn.

And my my wife is like, but it was would you go? Over that. Well, I wanted to make sure it was all level. Oh, yeah. But it was just. But it is exactly what you're talking about. Like when you're on Adderall, it's really cool at first because it's you put on these lenses that you can now see the world in. Oh, please. And when you're able to do that, that's the one thing that I try to explain to people, like why do I use cannabis at the level that I do?

Because my brain is going way too fast. Same, it helps it slow down to where I can actually like. I can pick out just normal stuff. Yeah, yeah. And I and I know and and I can listen more like, you know, where it's guided me to this point. It's like where you're talking with like the Chiba choos. Like, dude, for me, when I heard that story, when the day that we met, I was just blown away. Oh, I'll, I'll take some. Oh, I'll clear it. Clear that for me, please. I'm just still a rookie.

This, I mean, honestly, this is amazingly like. You're good to. Taste all of that. I mean all of those things and I and I do like them. There's there's, I've done a lot of research in the different cannabinoids and what they're doing. And I mean, I've been down that that path, especially trying to find like we're talking dose. Yes. Right. And trying to find what dose I need, what is you know, what is how.

Do you figure that out more now? Oh, 100% like that's, I mean that's so you find, especially when you know, half the battle is deciding if you're sativa or indica, right? Or what hybrid I'm supposed to find? Which are the best? For you, for my profile and, you know, on the on the journey of it all, like, like finding the right, I don't know the right the right way.

Well, experience to go about like, you know, deciding that, you know, to try to be, you know, open, you know, as, as we go through the, the process of even having to be honest with ourselves, right? Because there is the point where, where you are mowing the lawn and it's going sideways and

your sideways. And, and that journey you went through though, was part of the process that you had to go through to decide when and how and what you felt like of when you needed a little something and what that something was. Yeah, it's, it's like that what we were talking about earlier with Joe, the nose, nose and I I truly feel like the everything that comes apart of this plant, it's pulling you towards it. And the first thing to rely upon is your your senses.

Yes, and it's when you're touching it like, you know, like, OK, cool. Like like last night the dude my grinder like stuck together like it was glue like. The bottom of this one where the Keith is 'cause. I yeah, we can't even open that up. I'm like I have to use pliers or something on this one cause I think there's too much key from the bottom. Just like Jesse tried, I tried. We were like, do we get a pipe wrench for this like? Serious. But it's just like the you. You know that.

You want me to open it then? Yeah. Oh, can you? I don't know. All right, Yeah, dude, right on. I mean, if you guys are just saying you're not, we're just. Going to do that for all guests. Now you have to try and open. It Who can open the bottom of this grinder? We'll have a prize or something. So what? So how do you decide what's the top and the bottom? Because I would not even know what I've never I've never used a grinder. So what are you? Maybe.

No, dude, I'm. Just oh, because you mostly use pens. I just use a pen and then I mean I just do add edible moxie. Moxie. Oh, OK. I do some moxie. The good stuff. I mean, they've got. Some do you do concentrates. I do just a live resin. A live resin. Do you do a dab rig then? I've never done dab to never. Really. So when you're live resin, you're just getting the pens then through Mox, yes, just. Through Moxy, they just have a disposable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, you know, to to get at least my live stuff and then my gummies at night usually I'll do you know, have a good little OK bit especially kind of mixed up for, you know, sleep. Could try to get in that good. It's a rim. You know it, it is. All of them are great. The one thing I will say, though, this is yeah, that we always talk about like, you know, vaping is vaping is like fast food. It's good for a purpose, but

it's not the best. But live resin is the best experience for rosin Rosin. But I feel like it's really hard to find. Do we have many live rosins here? I don't think we. We have it like in concentrates, like pure plan has a dab, they have black amber but dude for like half a gram it's 50 bucks. Yeah, it's crazy. It's so expensive. Dab. That's it That That's not a. Lot No 1/2 an 1/2 a gram of dab. Not at. All that'll go in like, I could use that easily in a day, Yeah,

like. That's not worth it to me. But it's, you know, dab in general, it's really like, I was really nervous about doing dab. And the big thing for me was is because I didn't want to look like a crackhead because this guy had this dab rig where he would hit it with this blowtorch until the glass was red. And, and while it was cooling down, he would say, and I'm not going to say it because it's

around here. But I just set a timer on my little smart device for like, yeah, 90 seconds or whatever, let it cool down to like the perfect temperature and then put the dab in and. Then he put it in there and then I was just like, all I had was the 1980s crack epidemic going through my mind and I just because of the glass. And he's like, you really should try it. And then the first time I tried it I was like.

Well, and then it's also like thinking, oh crap, dabs are going to be really high concentratements, but that's the same thing that's in your pen. So all you have to do is take the tiniest of little pieces. It could be like the size of a pin head. Yeah. Right, because it's the same thing as a pen. You just take a tiny hit and even if you take that concentrate through the dab rig, you don't have to take the

entire hit. You just take whatever you need from it. But sometimes that flavor is better, the experience is better, the concentrate is better. And so getting through that, you know, and realizing, hey, this is the same thing that's in the pen, it's just a different method of consumption for it. So if you can just it's just dosing again, you know? Figuring well and I and I think I'm more like you know you said what it truly looks like you're this weird yeah like weird

Wizards and dreams back in the. Day yeah, you're like that's. The thing I don't know about that, and that's the part where it's like for me it because I think it is in my eyes is my medicine. Oh yeah. Exactly. And that's. And I'm not and I'm not trying to say that it, you know, because we there is total ways of doing it. And it's not that it's not that we're not hanging out because

we're here hanging out, right? I mean, I made the choice to, you know, this is something I normally don't do, right? But the experience. And here we are. Like, that's where I can say like, no, like I'm going to accept that. And that's OK. You know, it's like asking me if I'm going to drink a cup of coffee, remember? And I've still, I've still got like, yeah, that was, you know, there's still, I've still got this, this standard of things where I'm, I'm in my life.

I'm still trying to work through, you know what I mean? Of like this level of well, of things, you know what I mean? And I just, I mean, and it's like even the smell like, you know, I, I remember back in the day like, like I when I became an active Mormon in the church, I was a single dad, OK, living in West Valley City, OK. And I mean, I was selling cannabis at the time. So you were the cool white guy around? I was the cool white guy, OK?

I was living there. My my ex, my ex-wife had moved out OK, and we divorced. Bunch of weird stuff happened. And I had the boys, my these three boys, Everett, Montana and Logan were we were the brothers. That's what we called ourselves, the brothers, OK, And we hung out a lot, OK? They were my buddies, all right? And their mom left. And that's who I had. And I had to say, OK, this is what we're going to do. The boys are going to hang out.

We're going to do our thing. And as I started putting a few puzzle pieces of life, because, you know, along this journey, I myself ended up in a pretty dark place. Ended up loading up a LED, loading up a gun and stuck it to my head and I pulled the trigger. OK, I pulled the trigger and it didn't go off. It didn't. It didn't go off because, I mean, I'm here, obviously, right?

Yeah, but I had to sit in it. I had to sit in it and start putting the puzzle pieces together as I cried out right before I said, what is my purpose? I said, what's my purpose? And as these little things played out, like all of a sudden I started getting these, these photos like these shop them like my children, man, they're running. Then they're playing and they're running. They're playing. And I was told that's what you're here to do.

And so when I'm sitting in this situation where it's me and these three boys or mom, I'd come and ransacked the house and like tears it all down, tears it all down. And I'm trying to put the puzzle pieces back together. And each night I'm coming and doing a room and I ended up in the hall closet this night, this particular night and end up at the hall closet. Boys were in bed. I went out and smoked a bowl, come back in the house because

this is my next task I started. I mean, it was the hall closet and I'm just picking shit up. Like, OK, I want this. I'm throwing it away. And I'm sitting in the bunch of stuff, 'cause this is like, you know, eight years of marriage and like a bunch of shit, you know, all of these things. And I'm just sitting in it, you know, I got to sort my crap out. I might have went out and smoked another bowl, probably to come back in, to be honest. Yeah, right.

And just to where I was. Yeah, you start figuring out that your body needs more. But kids are kids are in bed. I mean, things are happening, right? And I'm not knowing what the heck to do. And as I'm picking up these books, I pick up this one and I look at it and it says Teachings by Gordon B Hinckley. I'm like, unless it's kind of weird, you know, this is really weird. Open up the book. And it says to my grandson Jeremy, OK, may this book, like, guide you in your life or whatever.

And I'm like, holy shit, this is weird shit going on right now, right? And I set it aside and as I'm digging a little deeper and I'm putting more stuff, all of a sudden I end up with this set of scriptures. They were just freaking sitting there like in my hands. And they were the ones, my scriptures that I actually used in high school. I was a seminary president back in the day of my crazy story at a little private school called Mount Vernon Academy. That's funny, I also went to a

private school in high school. That's kind of. Cool and LDS based private school. Well mine was LDS based too. What? Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like I was like that. That matches dude. Oh my gosh. What school did you go to? Leona Academy. OK, Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, so but I was. That's hilarious. I was not the seminary president and I was the kid sleeping through cemeteries. So. I was the seminary and I do not

still to this day. The my seminary teacher just happened to be the mayor of West Valley at the time. It's like dude. Oh wow, I can't remember his name right. That's one hell of a thing to do. Run seminary and be the mayor of the city. Was that simultaneously? Well, we were a small school dude. My graduating class was 10. Oh yeah, that makes sense.

That was like mine. OK, we were a bunch of hoodlums from all over, all over Utah. I mean, it was, yeah, I was a senior class president too, of Dan. That's kidding anyway. I was asked to speak at graduation. Surprisingly, so did I, and I was like, what the crap? Like do you guys even know? Why are you asking me this? Right. It was weird, but that's cool. That would have been awesome. That that serious. That's so funny. That's hilarious. OK. OK, so where did we? That was just felt good.

Sorry. No, that was no, I mean, hey there, we we let this flow. That's why it's a sesh. But. Where were we? Where were we at? Seriously, what was I saying? You were talking about being a kid going to school in private school. And we ended up there in Mount Vernon Academy, but before that. Jesus. No, You were in the I mean, it was right after where you'd pulled the trigger and you found out your purpose. You found these scripts. Kids scriptures.

So I'm sitting in this the scriptures come up lit and I so I literally took these two components that I was given and not quite sure and I set them in their own little pile. OK because like, OK, is the world starting to tell me something because this process that is happening, right because I got to refrain back after this. I tried to attempt suicide. Yeah, I did end up in the psych ward at the LDS hospital, OK, and spent 2 1/2 weeks there.

I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, stage two bipolar, manic depressive, seeing spiritual thoughts. Because what I saw right in that when the kids and all that came was kind of like this, like a light that I'd never seen before in my whole life, right? And like, nobody, like, really believed me. Yeah. OK. And so they stuffed me in this another this other box and this was a whole nother type of medication at this time. Oh, yeah. OK. Because I was cannabis.

And hey, I know you guys have a pill that'll just help me feel like I am like when I'm on cannabis. So it's a good thing I'm not telling you guys cannabis is bad. That's the good part of all of this. Yeah, I'm, I was telling the doctors at this point, like I'm just, you guys have something, right? I mean, it's just give me something to feel like I'm on cannabis. They just stretch in their head like this guy's a wack.

Dude, I worked 10 years in psych, so I, I ran several different units at the Utah State Hospital for many years. And yeah, everything you're talking about, like, yeah, I know exactly what you're doing. I know I've met those patients. I'm like, well, what are you here for? This isn't. We're not helping. You please understand this was with, this was early 2000s. Yeah, Nope, early 2000s. That's when I was. There wasn't a lot that was going on and it was just. Nobody knew. Here you are.

But I mean, I I, I racked up a a $50,000 bill. In 2 1/2 weeks. Yeah, 2 1/2 weeks of, of everything there and like as lucky as I was like I ended up with a guy that was in there that it was was the craziest thing because I'm just like didn't have anything at the time. I was like forever. And I end up in there with these guys and we came best friends and he paid my whole bill before I left. I never got to thank the guy. I never got to thank the guy.

Like I can't, I mean, we were such buddies in there, right? And I started asking and I like never knew. And then somebody told him. I mean, the, I remember telling him like he owns sport court or something, but I don't, I've, I've never like what the journey to put it all the back together. But this was a blessing in my life that came. It was like the craziest thing ever. And so that's that part. But I, you know, you come out of it, you're on six different medications again, right?

And I just wasn't feeling it at the time in my life and had a beat out of that box. And at that time I did pick up cannabis again, OK, And that part was like the healing part that finally opened. And that's when I was able to put God into my life. Yep. So this happened 1st and then the LDS church crap, right? I mean it, LDS church had been my whole life, but this is when I finally, and then my kids. OK, I'm asking the questions

though. If you don't freaking throw the questions into the universe, right, then how are they ever going to come back? And so is that prayer? I mean, we could meditation is that I mean, we can all, we all have our way, right? We've all been trained to do certain things, right. But if you don't throw it into the world, it can't come back. So this was kind of that starting point of like saying like, OK, I'm going to trust the universe a little bit, you know? But it is.

And when you learn that it is the it's, it's the, it's the plant. It's the, the plant giving you the experience that you need, exactly what you need. And when you use and when and when you need it, OK, it's going to tell you what you need to do. It's good at it. It's good to tell you, make you feel how you're supposed to feel. We all know it intensifies it just a hair, right? Just to make us freaking see it, right? Be present with it. And sometimes it's because we try and avoid it.

Yes. So then instead, you know, and then it really just presents itself. And sometimes I feel like that can be one of the hardest things for people, especially with cannabis is when you, I think about this with certain people and they're dosing at the beginning because I noticed in their experiences, they're like, oh, I have this horrible experience. And I was going through this and I was like thinking of myself like how they appear, like how they show up.

And I was like, probably you're working through trauma, They're working through self stuff like cannabis usually is super introspective. And if you are really high, you become incredibly introspective and you look at like all of these things. And that can be really hard because there's things that we're not ready to accept or

look at or that. And so even cannabis, it becomes a thing of like, I will not touch that because I saw this thing or I, I was faced with this stuff and I'm not ready for that. I can't like, I don't want to deal with this or face this at all. Yeah. I just want to like, pretend like it never happened, right? Dude, that makes so much sense because I always think about your brother, you know, your brother tried it one time and it was really hard.

But now what you just stated makes so much more sense. It's the same thing. Like people talking about they have a bad trip on mushrooms. Like I've never had a bad trip. I've only had positive. But I mean, yeah, but I've been putting a mild hallucinogen into my body for almost a decade now and it in a constant state every day. And maybe that's prepare me, but it's it really is that what you

just stated? When you slow down and you have cannabis in your system, you get to see you and sometimes that's really hard to see because you're like, I don't. It's because we don't love ourselves. No, you're 100% No 100. Percent and it's it's understanding who you are to love yourself right on that's the. Deepest level they take seeing the real you. That's that's why I keep saying that's why I'm so evangelical about about 12 shapes because it

it finally, it was that part. But the craziest thing is that cannabis has been this nucleus of being able to connect me to those people because Brandon knew for unknown reasons why he even gave it to me. He's like, hey, have you ever thought about this? I'm like, no, and he gets it for me. And I'm like, hey, whatever, he goes, don't even worry about it, it's yours. And it was the greatest blessing. So long I don't even remember. I remember it was just it was

1/2 gram cart. What it was going on in your life or like if you just. Just it was just supposed to be man, because we became good friends, you know, after his divorce, we became closer and I used to be good friends with his brother. That makes a lot of sense, yeah. Because, you know, after his divorce, because he had a lot of judgement coming from the family. But I don't judge, you know, there were certain type of people that I was really judge mental in and it's not their

skin color. So we'll get into that in another episode, but. Oh. No. It really is, man. It was like this great time. It was supposed to come into my life and it changed me. And all the stuff you're talking about, like hiding it from your wife and all that and trying to make sure your kids don't recognize it because it's this thing. It's supposed to be bad. But you know, it's, if you put it in a biblical sense, it's almost why Eve had to eat from the fruit, the forbidden fruit.

Yeah. Because so it's something there. So this is, I mean, this is actually part of the story. That was the part when I found that, like I found the the scriptures and I had the teachings by Gordon B Hinckley. OK, my night that I prepared because I've prepared that time for me. Kids are in bed, everything's in check. Dishes are done, laundry's done.

The freaking the the the clothes are set out for them to get ready in the morning because these are all prep things that I've got to do to get my butt in time to work. There's nobody else Co parenting like I'm having to learn these lessons, right? Being the dad, being the caregiver, being trying to do all those things and I'm not trying to tote my thing. No, no. You mean you got a single dad over to it? Too. I'm sorry, I've just.

No, no, just. To keep just to keep things and I and so there's that part where I have to come in and go, OK, I went down and I sat down and I like, I, I'd opened up the scriptures guys. Like I opened up the scriptures and I and I had this little concept in my thing of like when I do, it's going to be exactly what I'm supposed to read. Like I already had that much insight of what I was supposed to do. Yeah. So I set it down next to the bong. OK, It was a 2 footer. Nice.

Loaded her up right and I just did you have a name what's that at this point I didn't she did this was this was one that. Yeah, I don't name my phone. This is only the one that the ex-wife didn't take. Yeah. So should just be named after her. OK, we could probably do that. I I remember breaking it. I do remember. Breaking it. Well, there you go. That's probably why. Yeah, it was. It was. Cathartic, but it it did exactly what it needed to do at the

time. OK, right. So I put teachings by Gordon B Hinckley over here on this side of it and I put the whole quad over here on this side. OK, And then partake, OK. And then I opened up the book and I ended up in Genesis and ended up and started reading. And as I started reading about the forbidden fruit, it was told to me that that, that what you have right there is the forbidden fruit, OK, the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, the virtue and vice of everything that is there.

And I literally sat in it going like, no way. Like this is really weird, right? Like, whoa. And I'm just in this dimension that is like, holy cow, right? Well, I come out of this, right? And that's where, like, I got to get my kids to church. I've got to get like all of these things. Got it. Like, I've got to make this happen. The next Sunday, we're at the Valley Assembly of God Church, OK, in West Valley on 45th South, OK. We've gone over the Bible.

Baptist Church, Pastor Warnicki was his name. OK? I went to school with his son, private school. So I knew like, kind of where I was going, but it just didn't fit. They tried to stick me in a corner in there and say, hey, these are all the people that aren't. They used to be Mormons, right? I didn't know I wanted to be a Mormon yet all the way, right. But. Yeah, yeah, but you were looking for a fit. Looking for a fit. I went in through a similar journey. Right.

And so the Valley Assembly of God Church on the other corner that we went to the next week they came doing cartwheels down the point and the boys are looking at me like that. This is not the place like it's not the place right. So I literally like we we go back to the house and I've got another week to think about it, right? Had my own little sash, whatever, doing my journey,

right. And I finally said, I've got to get you guys some new clothes, like to go to this, like to take you guys to this church because I really had to come to Jesus. And I'm like, where am I from? Why am I here? Like, why am I in West Valley City at this point? And when you ask yourself that, and then you say yourself like, well, I'm a fresh neck. And then you ask yourself, well, where did that come from? Why, Why? You know, I'm really searching for these things.

And then you're like, why, why, why, why? And I'm like finding the answers. You know, it was like, OK, this is the church you got to go to, right? I'm just thinking it's just what it was. And I literally like like, like had this, this paradigm where, OK, we got to go get the clothes. And so we had a ADI because I'm just at the time just kind of scrimping and doing the best that I can to keep things floating. And I go over and we got him an outfit.

We got everything. We got everybody ready. I can't express to you this day when we finally showed up to the Jordan N 4th Ward, OK, because it was a journey getting there. But when we showed up, I walked through the door and as I walked through the freaking door, guys, like this is totally like this. I mean, and I'm on cannabis, I'm smoking weed, guys. I'm smoking weed like before I go to you're like. No, no, no. I mean, everybody should know

right now. And if you're in my ward and you listen to this every Sunday, if you see me there. He's high. I'm high, yeah. That's why I'm so great conversations. I'm I'm really like coming. This is good stuff to get out. Good. So you know, I I used to hide behind the house and I would get a a toilet paper roll. Oh, OK. And you'd put dryer sheets, dryer sheets in there. Yeah, you're. Making your own smoke. Buddy, smoke buddy, Right, you're doing it. Yeah, yeah.

So I'm doing that out in the backyard and I'm just like, and then I'd find that like oranges were really good with the citrus could take sorry, take the cannabis smell off real good. So I've got my whole routine I'm right. And I'm even cooking stuff in the in the back, making my own pills out of butter, butter pills, so I could have, you know, butter peels during the day while I'm having it. So I'm, I'm doing this on the other kids. Like they can't smell it, right? Yeah.

But anyway, we roll into church. And so I'm on a good high vibrational level. We roll in, but it was exactly where I was supposed to be. I mean, you're just like, oh, like, like freaking do they open the pillar gates? Like with the doors open? I was like. Oh. Like holy shit, I made it like I've been going this whole time. This is like like I was like hitting it relatives like hands or whatever.

Like we did this, my boys, they folded their arms, they walked down the hall, they sat down in those pews and it was like they were exactly where they were supposed to be. And I'm like, visually watching this crap, right? I'm seeing and I'm able to go, OK, Well, you know, like I've hit everything. It's all I'm it's all hidden and I'm here. But guess what? I showed up and I showed up the next week and I showed up the

next week. And the thing was is this weird paradigms, I end up meeting the Bishop. I finally decide it's time to quit selling cannabis. OK? Because in that vision I had, it was kind of like, if anything happened to me right now in life, who would be there for my kids? And here you're selling a illegal substance, right? Like, that's probably not the best thing, but it's what my dad taught me how to do. Or I mean, it was one of the hundreds of 1000 things he taught me, OK.

But you knew it. But I knew it. It was just familiar. It was valuable. And I was doing it better than he was, than he did when in my own world. You were helping people, but as helping it's. Medicating it was. Medicating it was. Yeah, it wasn't it. That's how I saw it, and I always did because even my mom, I mean, there were just things that I looked at it differently, right? But the world didn't.

But that was that part where I had to break because I was going into a whole new religious world, right, that I always wanted to play in like I always like I always wanted to be a Mormon, you know, like I'd I'd I'd like I was the kid that would sit there in Jones that and what would it be like to have family home evening. You know what I mean? Like what would it be like to be able to have a mom and dad that freaking, you know, like sat down and even made me do

homework. Man if I like if I would have had a parent that even gave half a rat's ass about me doing my homework and they always told me it was my fault. Right know I was freaking had ADHD and like I was had some weird shit but you guys didn't care enough to freaking and I love my parents don't get me wrong. Like no, no, I mean. Right, but that's just it's a reality and they turned me, got me to this point.

So we're good, right? Like I've forgiven them, forgiven them, but I was the guy doing the opposite of all these Mormons that were hating it. I'm the kid going I want more like like give me a family that I can. So so I wanted it. I wanted it for my kids, right? So I'm on this little journey. The the Bishop calls me into it. All right, I got an appointment with the Bishop. We go into his office and we sit. I sit down and I'm just fully loaded, just ready just to

unleash my whole freaking life. Like I got all this stuff. And the poor guy comes in and he sits on his brother. Downey was the guy that was in the room and I didn't I didn't know who the Bishop was, you guys. Like I really didn't know to put the name. I was just showing up. Yeah, I freaking sit down in the seat and I just freaking. He didn't have the. We shook hands. He sits down and I just unloaded. Dude. I didn't give the guy the time of day.

I'm just like, I did this and this and this and blah, blah, blah. And I like dude, dude, I sold weed and I'm just unleash and everything and the poor guy sits there and I mean, I was probably 20-30 minutes that I'm just because I didn't know any different. I'm just like. You just had. It I've got all this Guild in me, dude. Like, let me let it out. I mean, this is what you're supposed to do, right? I don't know.

Like passing to my priest. Passing to my priest or whatever, I'm just letting it out there, right? And this poor guy looks at me and he's. Like do 7 hallelujahs. Yeah, well, I. Didn't know what to expect all the way. I mean, you know, I passed sacrament, you know, as a kid, but like from 14 to the to where I'm to 24 at this time in life, like I'm not. In that realm. Nothing. Not even the close, right?

So I don't know. But I'm sitting there and I'm like, OK, well, I lay it all out on this guy and the poor guy gets up and he says, Brother Frischnick, like, I'm really, really sorry to, to tell you this, but I'm just the first counsellor. And I'm like, holy shit, like I got to do this over again, right? I mean, I don't know, I'm just, I'm just learning. Like I'm just learning, right? So this little process kind of rolls us into, you know, I finally meet the real Bishop.

But this brother Downey, like him and I became best buddies. Like he like came to a bunch of stuff and like that we we could see each other on a level that I didn't feel like I was being guilted or shamed or. You felt seen. I felt seen. I felt like, you know, it was whatever and it was a good experience, right? Yeah. So when it rolls back into the point where where where the Bishop finally meet him, he comes in and offers some assistance. OK, because I quit the weed business.

OK, money's not coming in. Got a little bit of savings, but not enough to to sustain right. And I just gotten laid off from my daytime job. I was a maintenance, maintenance manager at a composites manufacturing place. And I quit my date, my, my, I got laid off from my day job. And so I had to sit in this thing of what am I going to freaking do now? Like what? Whatever. Like, I had to be humbled, right? So I go to the Bishop.

Here's this whole situation this man like this offers me like, you know, the world, let me get you a food order. I'm like, OK, what's a food order, you know? And he starts filling it out and I'm like, OK, cool. And he's like, let me help you with, you know, what else do the kids need? And I'm like, well, I've got him on the floor right now. We're just because my their mom would come and take in all their stuff and we made a nice little cozy bed, you know. But the guys like then here I'm

writing this order for you. You take this down to DI and then they for beds for my boys and like all this stuff. And I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm not like I've got this pride thing going on where? It's hard to accept I. Can't ask family. I can't like it's just the realm that I'm not in. It's just like, but what do I do? Like I don't even have support of a wife. I'm doing this by myself, like, you know, and, and, and that's the thing of like, here's this

guy just OK, we're doing this. And so I'm like sweet, like, how can I help you? Like how can I serve? How can I whatever. And and like 3 weeks later I'm called as a scout master, right? Which was probably one of the most craziest experiences of my whole life. How long were you a scout master? For dude, like until my boys got older, you know, that's kind of my calling. But my dad did that. This is that growing up and that's that piss, but that. But do you have memories? Were you a scout?

Oh yeah, all of my brothers were all Eagle Scouts. We went on every camp out, we did everything like, yeah, well, I loved it though. My father was an Eagle Scout, right? And so it was kind of that thing. My dad wasn't, his dad was, but my dad had done like, so he'd gotten his Eagle project approved. He did his project, he did his paperwork and then submitted it and they turned it down after and we're like, that's not going to count.

And he was basically almost 18 and he was like, well, I'm done. I don't care then. But then he was scout master for like 15 years. Well. But see that? See, I was. All of his boys were Eagle Scouts. I was, I was a life scout and the same thing right to the end. And so it was something like, and so my oldest son getting his Eagle Scout, I felt was like I got mine. I mean, we did. But it's like this was my final like, thing to say, Hey, we we conquered this one, right?

Yeah, but that little paradigm of, of thing and me having to humble myself cause here I've got a food order, guys. Like it's like real. And he said to me, all you got to do is take that to the release society president's house and and she'll sign it. And he gave me your address, you know, and whatever. And I'm like, cool. But that pride set in, guys. And like I sit sat on my counter for almost two weeks, right? And I'm just sitting there like,

OK, there's nothing. And then Logie, little little Logie, he opens up the, the fridge door and he's like da, because he had a kind of like his speech and pet him at the time. It's like, da, there's no food. There's a little bit of milk. And I had to go, like I had to make that journey to get that food order signed. And it was real. Now, the bank account was not like I I pushed it all like I was trying so hard to find a job and I picked it up and I took that paper.

I went over to her house and freaking got out of my truck and I knocked on the door. One of the most humblest ladies on the planet, like comes to the door. We never really quite met all the way. She opens up the door and she invites me into her home and we sit down and we're talking. Brother fresh neck. Tell me I want to know everything. How can I help you? Do I need to come over and clean your house? Do you need people to help watch your kids? Like, what do you need?

I'm like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know how to accept charity. I don't know how to, I don't know. It was, it was my freaking fridge happened to be bare before I could come here today. And I sat and like just had to go for the ride. And you're just like, humble your ass, Jeremy. Like just humble. Your shit bro like. There's no turn in any way right now. It wasn't. We're sitting there and she says we're talking and her husband come in, old brother Bowen, and

you want a piece of candy. He always trying to give you candy, and they were the old candies, you know. Yeah, been zipping there for months or years. Grandma, Grandpa, Grandpa. Grandpa's candy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's always like three different times and I'm just like, dude, I'll take a strawberry one, right? Like they were always OK. Right, that's the safest 1. That's the safest one in the bowl. Always.

Wait, wait. So Brandon and I, we my, my wife's, his cousin and, and so grandma, grandpa, grandpa Ivan, he passed just not too long ago and he lived up till 93 and he was a great guy. But that, that was the funniest shit he would do whenever he would come by when, when he was still able to drive, OK, he would, he would go drive to your house randomly. You would just show up, and he would always bring the oldest candy in existence. But then he would bring like, they were like, Ed Rocks.

Yeah. Ed Rocks, Literally. Rocks counter for like his whole life grew up. Here, so he's always. Giving you rocks. And and it was so funny because he would bring like, what are they called? Why can't I think of it right now? This is really good strain by the way, those gummy candies. What are they beehive? Fruit. Fruit. The fruit, gum the fruit. Oh. Wow, you know what I'm talking about? Fruit snacks, Yeah. The flavored package, yeah. They were so hard. And you look at what it expired

and they're like five years old. And he brings over this big bag and all I could say to him was thank you so much. And he goes, yeah, you know, it's at my house and there's like 1/2 package of Oreos who know, God knows how long that's been there. And it's like the kids are all this is all stale. Like my youngest. He goes and I'm like, it's good. Right. Because he's trying to do something. And I mean time, when you get older, time goes faster. So you, you, you cherish it more, right?

Right. When you're younger, it's going so slow. But, but, but The thing is, is we just got to experience it. We got to experience the old man with the candy right now. We got to live that experience right now because of an old. I'm an old person, right? Just kind of, yeah. I mean, I mean, like, and it's old candy. It's from the old days. I'd be accepted. It might be a 50s candy, but you know, like, yeah. We were expected. We were little, little kids. We're like, Oh yeah.

Candy. Oh my gosh, this is better. Sweet. You know, I felt like, I felt like it's never give me this. Yeah. It's like those guys who go out to like Africa, OK, And they got those like tribesmen and they're giving them Twizzlers and stuff. I do not like this very much. But. It is like this. Is too sweet, too sweet, but it's. No, it's exactly that. I know, I, I, I was really resonating with you because man, I, I had to do that not too long ago, actually very recent.

And I know what you're feeling. You know, I've I've had to do that several times with my family and had to go there and fill up that food order. And then you show up and you have this sense of just disappointment and that you're a failure and that will kind of father you to get to this point. You don't even deserve this. And that's just a lot of bullshit in your head because honestly, dude, like, you know where, where I really got spirits.

It was really not too long ago, like I became Brandon knows, because then I started getting a little bit more into it. And it was this book I heard on a podcast. It's called imagine the God of heaven. And I was like, oh, what is this? So like, I'm, I'm, I'm not big into the religious books. I'm not going to read any of this stuff because it's all one

sided. And I was like, no, there's a guy who was investigating near death experiences and all these stories of what they saw, what they came back from. And it was all different cultures all over the world. And the only thing I got from it was that every single time one of these people went over there, whether you believe in God or not, whether you believe in Christ or not, it doesn't

matter. But for those that do they, they want to be a part, they get this affirmation, they get this, that understanding that it's real, right. And so once I understood that, you know, the love that I, I should be sharing is the love that we should understand what we're getting out of it. This is my understanding, of course. And my understanding is, is that God, Jesus, whatever you believe, but I believe in, and then that and that they love me no matter what, literally.

But the way that I was taught and then the way the Brandon experienced a lot of the LDS church was in a very negative light. And God was this judge mental asshole, yeah, who sat in the sky and looked down on every little sin that you did, every little mistake of being a human and. Yeah, it was really hard to be he was, I mean, his, his parents are great people. They are, they're really great people. And, and our family members that we shared, they're all really

great people. Devout, many of them are. But at the same time, it, it was just, it's keeping up with the Joneses. It's like the, the assholes I would go golfing with when I was in the IT world and they would make a putt and they go, that's why I pay 12%. And I'm like, wow, that's not even funny to me. Like, you know, it's, that's offering to help other people. That's, that's what I finally came to understand. That's what it's for. It's to help other people.

And if it doesn't go to it, then you're in the wrong place. But what I got from that book and, and recently I had to fill out another food order. And when I when I got that book after that one, I was so excited to go there because it was so excited to tell this person who has dedicated months of their life to just be there every day and just serve people. And they're like, and I and I wanted to thank about my Hey, thanks for being here. I'm so glad you're here.

And I say that to everybody now, like anybody that I've been doing it for a while, but now I make it a very strong point if I'm at Wendy's and that girl looks pretty pissed off. We just took my card, which I rarely visit now, but I used to right. But when I did, like, I was like, Hey, thank you so much for being here today. And they're like this girl, literally she goes is a fucking hamburger. And I'm like, Yep, but it was magical because you gave it to me.

Have a great day. And I drive off because I want them to know that that that's how I see my God as a person that that loves me no matter what fucked up thing I do. My life is not a stain, right? And no matter what I've done, I can't. I mean, I don't even. Care. You're not trying to wash out a stain? Yeah. Exactly. You don't have sin doesn't make you dirty. Yeah, it's just you.

It's. Just you, and that's why I, you know, when I, I just feel like a lot of, a lot of Christians in general and a lot of LDS people, they just had this thing like, well, I'm doing all the right things, but they're not listening. No, they're check. Yeah, they're checking the box. Just check the box. They're they're, they're not getting totally into who they are. They don't know. I mean, the programs being ran is like you don't know who you are. You're because you've been LED.

This is what you have to do. But when it's in that dark time when they're laying down in bed, that husband and he rolls over and he's reflecting on all this shit that he is dealing with, but he can't look like that, right? He's got to do all that stuff. Well, I'm like, I, I want to get back to like that, that point of, of what you're saying of being true to yourself, because there's, you know, there was a point in, in that journey of when you are just showing up,

right? And you don't know, when you ask yourself, why am I here? You know, why am I here, right? You know what I mean? And you're, you are depressed, but you are because what you're living is not all the way, you know, telling the truth. Sorry, guys, I was smoking weed and you didn't know it, like, right. But if I, you would have known, you would have judged me. Like I, I've been judged so much by that.

And I think that that's that thing of like where my world is and like me to, to kind of, you know, discern the way I had to discern to be righteous to myself. Yeah, right. I had to put me first and say, no, this is me. And then I can work on this and then my community, right? And trying to serve my community. You wanted me to go serve, serve, serve. But guess what? My whole internal shit is totally messed up. But you're wanting me to serve, serve, serve.

I can't, I finally had to say I give up. Like I can't do this. Like I've got to do me first. And, and you know, and I had this complex of like wanting to help, help, help. But The thing is like, no, we got to do you first. You got to do you first and then we do the then you can do, you know, you and your wife like let's work on that one first before I can't go yet. But but but but we're going and helping the neighbor down the road move. But my shit like who, what?

My shit's out of check. Like I can't like I'm still struggling here. But so it's like, wait a minute, this to me. I I had to break out of that very like this is just messed up. Like I, I got to take care of me first and, and, and that's what cannabis brought. 100%. But sitting at the point of where Sister Bowen fills the food order out and finally signs it right, And she says, Brother Frischnik, I'm going to go get it for you. Wow. And I'm like, no, and exactly what you spent.

I want to experience it myself, right? If I'm going to go do this And then multiple times I went back in life. And less shame. Unless it but to be able to pay it, to try to pay it forward was a beautiful thing too. Right to serve. But in these places, yeah, yeah. Right to be able to serve and, and, and and see that at at another level. But the one thing, the one jam that I found in all of this, right when we're hunting for rocks or hunting for things like

I'm a rock hound too. Sorry to say, I'm just. Saying no, that's all I love. My rocks, dude, The jam, but the jam. But the jam that I found in all of this is when I was sitting there and this humbling comes over and I've accepted the food order and this lady turns to me and says I would like to introduce you to my granddaughter. And I don't want anything to do with women in this point in my life. I'm like when my kids are freaking old enough.

I'll take care of me. I'll take care of me after that when they're graduated from high school. That was my, that was my, my thinking. And I was like, I was, I mean, I was poker faced at that. That wasn't going to freaking change. When I walk out back to the truck with that food order and I jump up in the truck and I'm like going to start it.

And I get that little thing that drinks me out of the truck, pulls me up to the bore and sits me there and says, Sister Bone, I'd love to meet your granddaughter, OK? And I'm sitting there like, OK, I just went like Sister Bone. I don't even got a job. Yeah. I don't even have like. What do you mean you want to like? Introduce me to your. Grand, you know, like this is this is weird stuff right now or whatever. Right, that's kind of funny.

Hey, I'd like to set you up for failure, so I'm going to introduce you to my granddaughter and but but take us there, man. OK, so. I'm sitting in this situation, go back home, probably smoked another bowl. OK because I got to sit and figure this shit out. This is some weird shit. Like I just agreed that I'm going to meet a woman when I like, wrote it in a freaking contract for myself and signed for my boys. That I'm not going to do. This that I'm not going to do this right, Right.

So I come back and I sit in it and, you know, one of the books I found along with those other two was a journal that I had when I was in 9th grade living in enterprise. And I journaled the whole experience in Enterprise, like the whole freaking experience. And I was a hellion in enterprise. If you got family members, they will probably know Jeremy. Yeah. Anyway, as I'm sitting there and I'm contemplating this choice that I made that I would tell a lady this like this

overwhelming. Feelings that I can't explain for a human came over me and I woke up that night and wrote in the giant, the journal, that this was somebody special. This was something, and I had feelings for this person before I ever even met him. I was just that weird kind of paradigm of something, right? And we planned the time to meet and she called me and says, Hey, I want to invite you to our

family Christmas party. Right to me like blind date, like we hadn't even, but I had done these little things because I'm like, I don't know the freaking world. I mean I. Don't. Yeah, just follow it. King Louie? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. It was just. King Louie, talk to you. Talking to me right there bro. Just go. Just go dude. Just do it just. Do it. Just show up and everything will be doing. Well, King Louie do, man. Yeah, like, you know, just follow it.

And so, you know, I do. I'd show up, walk through the doors of this thing. I'm going to a family, like a ward house even I'm going to a family Christmas, big ward, big family. So I walk through the doors, I can hear some giggling and a bunch of kids running around and somebody yelled and this girl comes down. I'm hearing this voice of like somebody that I know, you know,

I'm like, whoa, this is weird. And look over and it just happened to be this girl named Shay that used to do a lot of partying out of the sand dunes back in the day and writing. I. Think everyone knows a woman named Shay that parties at the sand dunes? Right. Maybe. So anyway, we start and I'm like, hey, like, you know how you doing? Whatever. I'd. We'd known each other. Yeah. So just put all of these little paradigms together. But Jade showed up.

That was her name. Jade. She was my Jim. She was the rock I was looking for. See. And she showed up. That's crazy. OK. And she walked through the door and it was an embracing of this big hug. And we kind of started from there and went on a date the next night. And then I asked her to marry me the night after that. Damn, what Mormon boys move fast. Dude, they do that's. Awesome, Can you believe that? Yes, totally. And, and so all of a sudden, it kicked off this thing where we

blended two families. She had a son. So I asked her to marry me on New Year's Day. I even like stood out in front of the temple, like right by the Joseph Smith Memorial and like did the whole thing. Right. Did that whole thing, but we only known each other a week, you know, So it's like, you know, you had to go quick or whatever.

But along that journey, we ended up getting married about 90 days later because, you know, like a couple of people that have married and things, you know, it's hard to keep that. But we wanted to be married in the temple. Yeah. And so you can't sleep with them before you get married. You can't sleep with them before you get married because it's a sin. Right within that marriage. Yeah. And so, you know, Jeremy, I mean, we tried the best that we could, and it just wasn't happening.

You know, it's hard to happen. Yeah. So being two grown adults, right? Right. Dude, you're saying all these things that all I want to do is like, yeah, that's what she said. That's what. She said right grown adult. It was so hard. So like I was trying my hardest, but along that, but along that process, like obviously we didn't get the the marriage that we set out to have, yeah. But the marriage that you needed? But the marriage we needed, it

happened, right? Yeah. And then a year later, we were able to be sealed in the temple. We had two daughters. So we have mine yours and ours I. Remember that movie? Yeah, it was a good one. So that little part just kind of leads, you know, I kind of had a little bit of a thing that I never told her about the cannabis side of me at that

time. And I was still partaking along the process like, you know, because I needed my medication and I wasn't quite sure how I was going to function without function. But we're married. We're like all on, right. And things got a little bit, you know, weird and crazy and she found out about the cannabis at the time and I wasn't, you know, the right guy. And we ended up separating for a few months, right. But like anybody else would look at on this of like, what in the

heck? Of course, it's because you got married so fast, all of these things, right? But we held it all together. I mean, we held it together and we, you know, like work through it all. And I mean it, we struggled, we struggled. We had a very, I mean, we had a minivan. I mean I I was an entrepreneur my you know myself along the journey still am right, just like me, but but. I got both of us right now, fucker.

But The thing is, what that started was I got a wife and I got a situation where I became a scout master and I was building this little scout troop together that had four boys in it. And three of the four about boys didn't have a dad. We were in West Valley, so four of them didn't have a dad. And so it kind of opened up this opportunity. I wanted to instill those things that I learned about camping and scouts and things and changed some lives and.

Oh, I like, I like this. This is so man, you know, I've been laughing over here and pointing because I'm just like, I'm, I'm just thinking of how crazy this is, Brandon. There's a million synchronicities. Even when he was mentioning his ward name. I grew up in the Provo N 4th ward and like just so many similarities just and shit that I'm like it's Oh my gosh. What this is meant to be, man. I mean, you know, and and I'm gonna, I'm not. What am I not doing, you guys?

It just it's filling up a lot. Because it's big, okay, yeah, that's you're good, I'm good. I'm just yeah, a total okay. It doesn't matter. True cannabis community, man, nobody cares. Nobody cares if you came in there brand new or you're super advanced. Nobody's been like pussy or rookie. Take the hitch. You want Take the hitch. You need and. Yeah, and you know, it's always open. I mean, you do, you're already a part. I mean, you understand the

culture completely. But that's the one thing that I've loved about cannabis is that it's the great uniter. And if you just slow down, you can see that. But. Take us back through it now because you, you're, I'm guessing you're with your wife still. So. So, yeah, so we went ahead and honestly, I, I, you know, I back that up, Scout Master real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Four boys, four boys. We wanted to get our camping award, right.

And so if you camped every month of the year, like, and so I for a, a guy or like, we're going to do this 'cause these boys don't have dads. And if we can get out every month with these boys, it'll be that. Would be. Great and experience and. Impact their lives. Impact their lives. And, you know, I took on the calling. Jeremy's got a tattoo. Oh, sorry. Jeremy's got a tattoo. OK along the way. And my first little like little experience with that was, you

know, I'd taken the boys. I told you it was three and a four. The fourth boy come from an active family and stuff. And you know, here I'm being the scout master, taking him out. And the first time that I had this experience was the boy had gone home and told his mom that I had a tattoo. OK. I got one of those too. And so then the mom. So then the mom goes and tells ask the well, ask the Bishop. OK, this was the weird. But to think if she felt that I was the right guy. OK, yeah.

To be. To be. Teaching your kids. Scout master or whatever because of the tattoo. And it really was this humbling thing of me of like, oh gosh, I got to like re evaluate and it was kind of eye opening for young Jeremy and the ward that there were people that were actually, you know, like that because when my story, I mean, I was put on kind of a pedestal. I mean, they put you on this, you know, this kind of a thing where you feel good and it's amazing feeling, right.

I mean, we are we're getting into the roots, we're finding Christ, we're finding this vibration of just this resonates. I mean, you know what I mean? And then you're like, when you just put on the thing that it like all it's touted up to be, right? And that's that part where you're like, OK, this is this is this is me being me, right? But I got to be real with it, right? And I really had to sit in that. And it was like, no, it's for the kids.

And I learned to let it fall off of me, right? And we just kept on hunkering down and just kind of just doing it right, because I knew that the boys, it wasn't the, the IT wasn't the parent. It was, you know, because I, I'd seen the boy, like I knew who he was. He was just making an observation of like, Hey, my dad don't have one. I mean, like too many people running around in his family that have them, right? Or even the community or even the community, right.

So that's that part of like, OK, well, this is, this is OK. So I, I, I got to experience it first hand right through the gates. It didn't stop me, right? I still kept it, kept it going, but I wanted to get us a little camping trailer that we could put all of our gear in. So we just roll up to it and we roll out of there. I was driving down Redwood Road and I'm sitting there and all of a sudden this guy is pulling this trailer out to the out to the edge of Redwood Road way, NN Redwood.

And I just freaking pull off the side of the road. That's got to be my trailer. I mean, I'm looking at it, right? This is this is it. I roll back around. It needs work, man. It, it needs to be painted. It needs a floor put in it. It needs freaking lights put on it. It needs all of these. I mean, it needs every. I'm like, perfect. This is a project for Wednesday night. We're gonna freaking teach them some crap. Bartered with the guy. We get it for 200 bucks. I feel like I'm in heaven.

And we, I roll out of there, I'm just stoked. Like, this is going to be the best thing ever, right? Oh, yeah. We get at home, we get the kids, we learn how to paint, we learn how to wire the trailer. You know what we're doing? All because it's stuff my dad taught me, right? So you just want to, and then we're going to use it. It's we use the heck out of that

trailer. I mean, we, we literally did and it kind of got to this point where the next fall would come around and I was like, you know what, I don't want to park it in my yard this this last year. I just don't want to store it. And so I'm just going to sell it because that's just Jeremy, like everything just repurposes or whatever. And I thought another one will come and we'll do this again next year with the new scouts, right? And we'll have our own trailer that we just do.

This was the vision. So back in the day we had the KSL, we didn't have KSL classifieds. We had the Thrifty Nickel and we had the the Thrifty the Thrifty want ads. Yeah, you get over there like like in front of Albertson's, like when you're going out the checkout line. All those little, yeah, those little things and everything. So it's like, like it was cheap advertising, you know, like for cheap you could run a weekend ad for, you know, like 5 bucks or whatever.

So it was kind of cool, right? So I decide, well, I'm just going to throw it in there and see what happens. And I'd had 160 phone calls on the one trailer. Jeez, OK. And I had the first person that came bought it. And so this was like, holy cow. Like if I would have had this piece of junk 160 times, I could have sold it. I got to do something here. Like something's like, how can I? My father owned a welding and fabrication business, right?

But him and I were too much alike and didn't see eye to eye. And so it was kind of like, hey, I finally was humbled and like, hey, can I come try to make a trailer? Yeah. Can I come try to do this? Like we, we let me do it. We teach me how to do it. Like just we're going to have a father, some project. Yeah, we're not going to throw the. Ball, but we're going to Weld. Right. We're going to sit here and this is. That's what we're. Going to do right?

Yeah. So Jeremy goes, gets all the materials, you know, it all comes up. It was 200 bucks, like for all the materials to build it. OK, wow. I go to his house. I, I cut it all up and the one it was 400 bucks and I, you know, I bought it for 200, sold it for for that concept, right. So can I make this for 200 bucks? I don't know if my dad teaches me, you know, yeah, gosh, it took 2 1/2 weeks to build the first one. And I mean, I was because he was wanting to teach me his way,

right? He was driving me freaking bonkers because like, yeah, this. Is easy math. Let's get this. Shit going. I got to sell this shit, like, what the hell. But my dad's trying to be the mentor, teach me a lesson, and I had to go through all his hurdles and hoops, right? So as this time comes and we explode, and I'm like, to hell with you, and I've got enough money to buy my own damn welder, Yeah. All right, I'm going to go build this trailer in my freaking

garage. I just saw you pop off like that. I was, I was imagining like a like a little kid, like I'll show you. Well, in a way. Survive on my own. Well, in a way, I was probably listening to Snoop Dogg and I was like. OK, Yeah, he was. Probably more gangster at that time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean there was some. There was. I have a real question. Did you think you were black at 1:00 one point in your life? I did. Oh my God. That's so funny. Sort of branded.

That's so nuts. I was in a gang. I was in a gang. I mean, like they, they, they called me J Ball, the white boy with the letterman's jacket. That's. Hilarious. That's hilarious dude. That's. That's really funny, man. Crazy. Like, really? Funny. It's supposed to happen. Yeah, well, it's supposed to happen. I'm just saying. I mean, Snoop still is dear to my heart. We're going to give him a putter, too. We're going to throw that out there. Oh, real quick, we need to talk about that.

Oh, that's I figured that would come into play when we finished how the story of how you met. OK, I'm. Just gonna you guys can see. That all right. And this, yeah, and the. Key, we'll get all of this. We'll get to hear all about this. Anyways. Continue. Continue. Where were we though? Depends on where we're jumping. We were. Where do you want to hear from? Because we had a couple. Of what we were talking about the tattoo. Tattoo bringing that back around.

Yeah, the kids and the kids saw the trailer trailer. So you're building that out. I've. Learned that stuff, now I'm at my own garage. Right, because you don't need him anymore. Don't need him anymore. I've totally obsoleted that. Burned the bridge. I mean, I was peeling out probably when I left. Probably literally Jerry Springer stuff. Probably. Just kidding. Dude, that's funny you brought that up. No, just kidding, just kidding.

Anyway, so as this little journey goes on, I started manufacturing these little trailers in the garage of my house. The first one took 16 hours, but I just had to figure out how to make them faster because I knew I could sell them for $400.00. So I was able to get the concept all the way down and I could build them in 2 1/2 hours. So I was paying myself 75 bucks an hour in a part time job in the garage of my house after work.

Yeah, and I would put the ad in and sell four of them every weekend because I could do one every night when I came home. That's fantastic. Though my son got old enough he was cutting the material when he got home from school because we had a cut list, right? So we were oh, that's beautiful, doing this little. Process. I mean these parts just kept these. But was it we were making the same one? Yep, right. Was just like boom boom boom boom. Boom, it's just. It's just. Common, right?

That's beautiful. So we're sitting there and this little concept is happening and we're building trailers and everybody's coming and saying like hey, could you do this to it or could you do that? And I'm like, OK, so this is where the trailer guy was born. Cool. You sent an e-mail to the trailer guy at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right so this is where the trailer guy was born. So all from me being in a scout master given a little love turned into this little side

hustle I had going. OK, well then the side hustle ended up turning into US moving to Tooele County, Utah. OK, I went kicking and streaming. Never thought in the world that I would ever be a twillabilly and live there and whatever else. And I'm not saying that like. Twillabilly. Twillabilly. Dude, that's the first for me that I grew up in here. That's awesome. Twillabilly. OK, I love that. Perfect. If anybody listening, I didn't mean that in a bad way. No, no, I mean, but during that

time, but during. The time and the period and, and, and my wife and I when we were deciding to move out, there was literally like, let's go to the Walmart and like just check it out and see how it is because you're not. Quite at Walmart there. That's cool, but it was where do you find a house for the cheapest? And this particular house we found like had a six car garage in it and I'm working and produce some serious trailers out of there, right? It's a lot of work, babe.

We're moving. We're moving, right? So we move out there. I'm still working a job at the time at the Dannon Yogurt Factory. I know you're talking. About RAM packaging. So I'm driving around the mountain every day, right? That's why I've got a lot of headspace, a lot of time. Yeah, I'm not cannabis at this time. I'm just so often and just keeping life going and different things and and so this is kind of happening and and you know, it's just it's it was a good time of our life.

I I started this good side hustle. We were doing good. Ended up with a, a gentleman in in my ward out there right that end up saying, Hey, you're a trailer guy, you're building trailers like our, our company is, is hiring for somebody out at Dugway proving grounds for ITT advanced engineering and sciences for mechanical engineer. Would you like to, would you like to come and fill the role? And I'm like, what, like, how's

that possible? I don't know, like we need somebody that knows how to build trailers. I'm like, I've been doing out of the garage of my house and now we're already going to freaking this level or whatever. Like sweet. OK, so I ended up saying sure, I'll fill out an application and got the job and ended up designing like these trailers for the Department of Defense to build biochem systems for detecting, you know, different stuff. So that's crazy.

I spent three years doing that was in Alexandria, VA, like kind of that's doing lob hobbing and doing all that good stuff, just spending buckets of money. But it started where the trailer business came. And when that contract came to an end, I was not able to, they got rid of the program and so I wasn't hired on for another program, but I took that contract that we had and was able to get another contract.

And so we started making these systems and then when that all went went bad, we kind of rolled into oil, filled in gas. My brother showed up needing a trailer to go to North Dakota to haul frack water. And craziest thing ever happened again just to all these stories. But I became the trailer guy and spent the next 10 years building trailers and did a bunch of cryogenic tanks and things for. Yeah, that's right, cryogenic. Tanks. Which is crazy.

Where is that used? Well, that's for LNG, liquid natural gas. So it was a kind of a period in, in kind of during Mitt Romney's little run of things where we were doing clean energy and trying to transfer everything to LNG. And so I was instrumental with some tankers because there was Chart Industries was the only company in the US that made them at the time. And I'd partnered up with a company out of China called CINCIN Rick, and they were the world's largest.

But we were there, US dealer, we were sold. So it was their dealer supplier. Yeah, we were dealer a bunch of times. Yeah, it's a lots of dealing. Yeah, lots of dealing. Baby, that's all we're doing is always just Wheeling and dealing. So so anyway, so so so that little thing, the humble beginnings of a trailer company did end up in a a very a very good sized organization building. My biggest trophy I, I call trailers as my trophies was a

propane transport trailer. There's only three manufacturers in the United States. And Jeremy decided he wanted to be #4 And so we, we did it all the way down to just burning it down. It just, I had one little piece of metal in the tanks that were, that were bad. And it just, all just opened a new chapter of life. And so the trailer guy just kind of that big scale, just kind of just got to figure your life out after that.

What do you do now? I'm a greens keeper at a golf course in Salt Lake City, UT. I mow the greens and make sure the grass stays growing perfectly. Sounds like a really chill life. It's not too bad. It's not too bad at all. It just kind of take it easy. I just, you know, help out humans. That's just all I do. It's helping humans. Just doing it everyday. Just seeing that dovetails really good to finishing what I had started earlier, how we met.

He came to help us with the tire and we got the tire replaced at a place that he told us to go. It's like out of the 1990s small place. I was so happy that we got that. You recommended it because they really appreciate the business and there's these two young kids and they straight up, they've got oil marks on their face and it's all over their arms and

their hands. And it, it was cool to see because they don't see that with youth a lot where they're going to be doing hard work and it's hot as balls in this little place. And they're like, oh, we have a waiting room and you go in this waiting room and it's a small waiting room and it is so cold in there and there is tons of drinks. Like you see the other one. You're like, this thing is you that the waiting room is going to be awful. Like there's going to be a smell

in there. I know it, right? That's that's what you would think. But then when you go around the corner and they're, it was just nice. I think they care so much about taking care of the customer. It's the newer generation that younger one's really about people. Yeah, they and they are. No, they really are. And that's, you know, and I get to see it everyday because I, I do hire, you know, college kids, you know, a lot of times coming in. And so you do get a, a bunch of

personalities. You do get, you know, younger ones coming from the, you know, I've been employing a couple of swimmers from the University of Utah swim team, right? And trying to get into, you know, helping them out, like doing things and just seeing this life. But these, they are so full of, you know, they want to help. They really do. It's you know, and it's an awesome change, but when you see this, I was just like, wow, this

is so cool. And Kim and I were just, you know, we're like, oh, this is great. And then we get back and we're putting the tire back on and it's a pain in the ass. Fuck cheap. And so when we're doing it, I was screwing on the the bolt and, and we're talking we're and he's tightening them up over here with his drill and the thing just keeps getting stuck on the bit so that it was so bad you. Have to like hammer him off and. And it's hot.

I mean, I, I'm, I'm, I mean, when you're sitting here, you know, you're like, OK, I've, I've signed up to do this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was no. Because he's even signed up too. So like, and it's like you, you can't turn back. When I saw him walking down, like, I see this. I'm like, OK, who's this guy? You know, I'm like, OK, this is cool. And he calls it, hey, do you have a 15 or a 14mm socket? He knew, he knew what he wanted, right?

You hear you go, go try him. And it came over me that briefing of like, why are you, you already know that the car, because my daughter's back. I, I, so I literally was like, just grab the Jack and throw it in the thing and just go out there and like, it's only going to take a minute, right? But those lug nuts. And here's the thing, when they got back with it and I was sitting there and I'm like, I don't want to put those freaking lug nuts back on.

Like I didn't want to try to tighten them on, right? And, and, and, and Kim came to find me just like, hey, we're trying to, she's looking all over and I finally come out of the office. OK, let me come help you. You know, and I was dreading putting those freaking lug nuts on just to get them started. I'm telling you, like when you're given service like that and like you show up and like the guy that's there has already got him back on.

And I'm sitting there going like, dude, this this guy's kind of cool. Like he freaking like put those lug nuts on, right? And like you take it from. There, so we're putting on, but Kim and I are talking so 12 shapes again. I mean, I met Kim and and I'll and I'll, I'll rewind to really be able to, to be able to kind of deliver that impact because of what it was crazy was Kim and I are talking about the business of of 12 shapes. She's grown up for so long. She's been doing this for 25

years. She has people that have gone through her program 20 years ago and say I still use it to this day. My marriage is awesome. My relationship with my kids is awesome. My relationship with me is awesome. It's so cool. And so we are talking and and we're going to grow this even bigger and get more people what I'm experiencing. Look, we need the whole world to that. And we're talking about 12

shapes all morning. And I and she says something about 12 shapes and Jeremy's like, you guys know about 12 shapes and we're both like, how do you know about 12 shapes? He's like, well, this guy on this podcast. The very morning, the very morning, like I'm out mowing greens because I mow the greens, the greens every day, right? It's part of my meditation. Yeah, right. So I put on the set. It was a new, it was Friday

morning. This was Thursday. So I'm waking up in the morning putting the session on right. And so I'm listening just I do it every morning on Fridays. OK, You guys are my my go to. Yeah, right. Or yeah, Friday mornings. That still seems really weird to. Me and so I'm sitting there and so I'm hearing it that morning. I'm hearing it and I'm like hearing it and just the wow, that's cool stuff.

I gotta look into that. I mean I'm cuz that's where I am in in this this growth, this growth pattern that I'm in too, right. And so that's when she says it, and I'm just like, well, that's really, I mean it like. I just barely heard that, yeah. Well, that's really cool. Like and it was so fresh in my mind. I'm like, well, where did she's like, where did you hear that? And I said, well, on the podcast I listened to, she's like, well,

what podcast? You know, like what this well, cannabis school, She freaking dropped to her knees, dude. She's like, Oh my. Oh my God. Like. And I turn around. Like and she's like, do you know who that is? And I'm like. Who like and I took and this is the funny part because it's this is what happens so this hat I I got into these like paperboy hats. I don't know why I just got into it you. Really like Newsies. Yeah, or that, or I'm 45 and I'm just like, well, just lean into it, brother.

I mean, it's all fucking white anyway. So. But I, I, I wear that and people don't recognize me like I was at a farewell for my buddy's daughters going on the on the LDS mission. And this woman, I have been friends with her husband for years. I wear a kilt going to I'm the deputy commissioner for a clan Campbell in Utah and it's through bloodline on my wife's side and I'm in a kill. I go to go to church with a kilt on because it starts a conversation. I got tattoos, I smoke pot and I

got to kill. Like we got a lot to talk about. But she looks me up and down like I'm some transvestite or something, like because this is Utah. And then she's an old school woman. So she looks me up and down and I laugh in my head. I go, she doesn't Remember Me. Oh, this is awesome. And then she looked in the mall. We'll see you later, Mike. That's what I said you. Did yeah. And she just like us. And I'm like, I am going over to see her husband. He's he's in his 70s and good

friend of mine. And I was just like, I'm going to go over there wearing the kilns. Like, Sir, you like you like judging people, do you? No way I'm going here in your dress. Don't. Worry about that? Look at this someone. Lifted up, you'll not be able to get on you a good peek at me. But it it was just crazy because when I wear this hat, nobody recognized me when I took off my

hat. He just he goes, oh, Oh my gosh, And he just gets like he gets tears in his eyes and then he gets goosebumps on his arm and I'm like, oh, and he picks me up off the ground. Just give me the biggest hug. I got one of those this morning. It was. Fantastic. It's just me, guys, it's me. I fucking loved. Him and he's like, there's no

way you are here right now. And if you think about that, like that morning, Kim's tire pops, it pulls over at this golf course and I didn't have my debit card with me. So she would pay for it for me to go with her 'cause she was like, no, I'm going to take an Uber. I'll I'll call the insurance and like, no, I'll go with you. I'll do it and this whole purpose of like I am where I'm supposed to be. I don't I don't go away from it.

And for me, it's always like for me and maybe for you or some of the people that like it's universe, but I truly believe God's talking to me going do this like talk to that homeless guy. Like that voice comes in. And and that's that recognizing that voice and having faith in what you're hearing. Yeah, just do it. Just do it. Just act on it. Just act on it. Like don't don't think about it. Just do it because that's where you kind of.

But The thing is, is like in in my world, without cannabis, OK, Like it's a little bit different. Yeah. OK. And I'm not trying to say that that's, you know, good or bad or ugly. I don't know, like, but I'm sitting here saying like, it's like my way of life the last five years. And I mean, even the last three years of just coming clean to my wife about my cannabis use,

right? Of what that freed up to free up conversations for my wife to finally say, like, Oh my gosh, it's not all as bad as actually you are a better human with it. Like, I wish we would have had it, you know, earlier on in life, you know what I mean? Like or whatever like right And so. 'Cause they can see that.

Because they see the change and, and I mean, and I think this is the ones like, like to turn around and like, you know, I kind of mentioned a little bit before, like I, I had I in this journey, had to go to jail guys for, you know, 25 days, I told you or whatever the 30 day sentence, right.

And so when you're, when you're coming out of that and you're like half and did you know when your daughters are sitting with you, when you're being sentenced, you know, and, and you're leaving and you're like looking inward on that kind of situation of like, what, what got you? I mean, what got you here? What, what are you learning from this? You know, what are these things, right? And so they could sit and blame it on 10,000 different things, right?

So putting that puzzle piece together that I got a chance to do it again, right? And we'd be able to prove that through this process. What is the one thing that changed? I I put cannabis into my life. That's the one thing of all of this that changed. And I looked inward because it talked to me and it gave me that ability to do that. Yeah. OK, to know who I am, right? The primary song, right? I mean, yeah, that's it. Just opens up that gate for that

to work, right? Yeah, no. And that's and I mean, and that's where I just had to come to that, to that real, you know, reality of it is good. Like it's not bad. And when your wife finally jumps on board, like it now lifts you to a whole nother level of being able to accomplish things that, you know, what's the, you know, what's the unknown. Yeah, right. And then when they accept it and they're like, OK, well, maybe I'll even try a little bit. You know what I mean?

Let me try a little bit and maybe we'll. Because they see how it impacts you and what it does for you. The thing is, I did the situation where going through the line, I ended up with D8 because you couldn't quite get cards yet, you know what I mean? And so I'm trying to do it as legal as I and buy the book as I possibly can, right.

And my wife had, I mean, she just seeing this change in me and I'd lost more weight and I'd putting meditation in and we'd even started doing a bit of meditation and I still hadn't told her that I was, you know, I said I'm using CBD. Yeah, you know what I mean? Cuz that's really what it is. It's in it, right? So I'm not lying, right. Cuz there's. CBD. In it right, right, right because.

It's in it, right? And so I'm sitting there and I anyway, so I have it in my top drawer of my and she knows where it is. I mean, we were keeping everything open. I'm not hiding shit. It's not. This is my life, right? Yeah, but it's a book. Yeah. So I leave for and she's like, you know what, like that's been helping him with his weight. You know, he's been doing so good, like he's I think, you know, maybe I might just need to try some. OK, and so she gets in the bag.

It was, I don't know what the time to D8 stuff, but it's they were 50 milligrams on the gum. She ate that whole thing. And she didn't know dosing either. She didn't know whatever and freaking took that gummy and ended up at work. Oh, Oh no. How? How did that go? Yeah, she got she. Oh, I got what did you what is in here? I'm like, oh, shit. Like I mean this is. What do you said? This was just CBD. No, you should be taking more

CBD. What, like like get back home and she's in. She won't do nothing. She's hiding in the bed, like covering her head. I was the devil at this. Point right, Yeah. Why did you get this? Why did? You get this? You told me it was just CBD. So it's another level of like, OK, now we got to have the hard conversation again. Yeah. Yeah. Right, 'cause that trust. That trust is now broken again. And so you're like, OK, but, but

I promise it wasn't. But that's the process you got to. I mean, at least mine. I'm telling the story to be honest. About it, yeah. Right, if there's any other guys out there that are struggling with the same thing, like, you know, like we'll help you out. I mean, I don't I don't know what to say about that. It's, but it's a thing where you got to be true and honest with yourself.

And if you're not, you're not going to be able to get to the elevation of where you can be to be your best self and help the all the people that are around you, right? Like, yeah, you got to own it. You got to own it. Be true to yourself 1st and everything else will fall into

place. Yeah, and truly, man, I mean, I feel like that and and you know, it's like, you know, and Brandon knows I've said this to him in time, but you know, I truly believe that, you know, God placed Brandon in my life the right time because he brought me into it. If I would have done anything different, you know, that's why I don't look at any type of anything I've ever done in my

life with regret. Like I would be the worst person to contend with in a political campaign because be like, oh, well, you did this shit when you were 21. I'm like, yeah, it was pretty awesome. Anyways, next question, right? Because I would be like, I don't care. I'll lean into it like, oh, you were, you were a bigot and kind of a racist. Yep, both of those guilty charge next question, what would you like to ask? Because it doesn't matter to me. It's it's gone. It's not real anymore.

And you know, I, I, I try to live with that all the time, every day. And it's just, it's just amazing that you can get to this point where you just go, look, I'm going to accept these things and, and I'm, I'm going to feel it. And God brought Brandon in my life. Brought, he brought cannabis into my life through Brandon, right? I mean, Brandon was being a missionary and he would never admit that, but well, he was being a missionary and his, he, he, he was, why did he bring it to me?

Why? Well, and that's, I mean, that's that point of like when I finally came to the thing, like I during this, this journey, my, my, when I had the boys and was a single dad, my, my, my mom would take the kids usually like once a month for me so I could have boys time right or whatever. And then there was a little bar down on State Street called the three alarm Saloon. Oh, I've. Been there. Yep. OK. I was a bouncer there. Yeah. OK, so three the three alarm saloon.

I mean, this is the could tell stories and this is weird because that's the part of like, it was a pretty hit place. I mean, it was whatever, right? But I had buddies that like to go there. Yeah, but they would drink. But guess what? Jeremy didn't drink. I just smoked weed. Yeah. OK. So I was always given the keys and was the sober driver. OK, sober driver. Well, yeah, sober driver I was. I mean, that's I was, I'm just super calm when I drive, so yeah.

Yeah, well, anyway, the point of that part was like when it came time to go, we'd go back to certain places and you'd get all these people. We'd have an after party. I'd drive them to the after party. They'd get, we'd now get them high, OK, because there's no more booze. We'd now get them high. And then I would sit there and freaking preach the gospel to them, dude. Like OK, and like tell them some shit like because and they would sit there, dude.

And this is where I was like they like, dude, you're the marijuana Mormon. And that's where I got deemed that freaking that freaking thing. When you got started? Well, I got started. You called. The marijuana Mormon. Yeah, 22, that was what that was through this process because there was no better place because I because remember it's forbidden fruit. I knew it was the forbidden fruit. So all cannabis to me was the

forbidden fruit. So I'd start telling them the whole story in my while they were high and coming off of being drunk and half of them would they'd all be members and wanted. You always end up with, well, my dad's a state president and he didn't say it like that. And I said I know because like, he didn't know. That's hilarious. Yeah, he didn't know. He didn't know. You're right. But he didn't know. Yeah, right. So that's the thing that's coming in is you're just a

marijuana Mormon too, right? We're all just marijuana. Mormons he used to be. So he's no longer. No longer OK. Yeah, he's been, he's been out of the church for a long time. I laughed and I went Christian for a bit and then I, I, I don't know what my relationship is now. Yeah, but he's on the journey. Well, and the only part, the reason that I'm going to say that that that you can still fit in that classification is even if it's saying, you know, it's just part of even your DNA.

True. Oh, it's all of my family. Like it's. 5 generations, well see, see, and, and it's, I'm 65 to six on me. So that's that part of like, it's like I've evolved to a point where we can have a lot of conversations because I've, you know, like I still, it's still a, a realm for me. I mean, I, I still embrace the church. I still embrace a lot of the things because it's, it's who I am, right?

It's a journey that I've, I've, I've, I've, I've been on to just try to do good, right, To try to do good, but I'll never be able to walk away from who I am and who my DNA is, right? You know? Right, right. 100%. And so that's that part where it's like I just, I, I, I owned it and that's the part of like, it's just, it just fit, right? Yeah. That's what brought us together here at this point, Like this story, the whole thing, it just comes to to the cannabis and. Beautiful synchronicity.

The synchronicity. Of all of it and and here's the really cool part guys and then I'm going to have Jeremy explain all of it because this is really cool. So when he's saying like, you know we get introduced, he gives me a hug he goes I have something for you and I'm like what the hell and he takes us back into his office and he shows us this putter. Well, he he was talking about a

putter. He had a different putter, but he's he was explaining it because he had made these for us. But he the whole story, dude, you're you're better at explaining it. Explain it for. Me well. Because it will go to the keys. The keys is the coolest part of this story dude. So start back like you used to collect keys. And just, I mean, all through your life, all through my life, I mean, I've just, if you go and look in my drawers, anywhere that you're gonna find, you're

gonna find keys. I have keys on my key chain. Just to have them. That I don't even know what they go to right so this has just been that thing you're just like OK, what is this what is this thing to keys. I can go in and you're like, we'd sit and we can even we can even activate AI in this and say, OK on my social media, like what's been found? I mean, I I can show you guys crazy things that have even manifested with that of it knowing me pretty well and sending me even stuff that has

to do with keys. And so it's, and it's not like this OCD thing or anything or whatever, but it's just. Just. Something that pulls me into something that like catches my mind, right. And along this journey, like I ended up, you know, like I said, I, I went to jail. One of my sentencing things that I was sentenced to was I needed to be evaluated and, and have a, have a therapist in place to be able to, you know, see what I needed to do. And so I had to seek finding

those things. And I just wanted, I'd, I wanted to be able to protect, protect that, that I used cannabis, right? I didn't want that with the law to like border anything and just wanted to stay strong with that a little bit. And so I was choice about who I, you know, who I found and I just happened to find Cliff Aukerman at outpatient be able Behavioral Health in Salt Lake City.

That happened to bring me in and was able to introduce me a little bit more to what cannabis therapy is and how to use it in a therapeutics, you know, setting. And just gave me some tools to be able to work with through that process. Which kind of led me down the path of, you know, really trying to get into some deep meditation and get into finding who I am and kind of using the cannabis tool to kind of get rid of old trauma. And you know, it's gave me those tools to work down that path.

And so I started putting that all together and, you know, as I started learning about vibration and energy and what, you know, that as they're classified, you know, in a number scheme, it kind of made sense to me of like, you know, fear, guilt, shame or all low vibrational, you know, vibrations.

And so as I started like saying, OK, like applying the cannabis with the therapy against the little word things that we sit and draw through all the time, like part of our, you know, it's part of the this is just therapy. So I started doing a meditation and just do it like therapeutic. Like this is what I want things to look like or this is how I'm going to orchestrate things. And I was able to tie into those

traumas. And I kind of learned that like through creativity that that you can shed those, those things like layers of of onion, I like to call it like just shedding that onion, you know. And so as I was doing this, like I was getting results, I was getting tons of results. And I'm like, this is just awesome. And I had this vision where I've always worked with my hands. I've always just been very, you know, and I kind of realized in life, I'd kind of forgot how to do that, right?

And so I was like, no, I got to tap back into that because that's going to bring something good. And so I sat down and I'm like, you know what? Like, what are you going to do? And I just happened to have this experience where I'm not a golfer. I work at a golf course, but I do not know anything about golf. It was always too kind of frustrating for me. But there was a gentleman at the first tee, Paul Pugmeyer. He's a he runs the first, the First Tee of Utah, which they do

veterans golf and things. And he'd said, hey, I want to get your first set of clubs. And he took me over to the to the warehouse where they got all these clubs and was came time to pick a putter. And he's like, well, you know, picking a putter's kind of like picking like Harry, like a wand. It's like Harry Potter's wand. It's going to like, it's just going to call out to you. And they like have this whole freaking thing of putters. And I'm just like, dude, that's

a lot of putters. Like this is crazy. Like, and you just want me to choose one. He's like, no, it'll choose you, you know, and I'm just like, hey, I kind of believe in this shit. So that's OK. Like, we'll see. So I reached up on the thing and I kind of pulled this one putter out and I was like, oh, this is kind of cool. And pulled another one out and he's like, well, yeah, you better. You better take two. You know, you'll figure out which one you'll like.

Well, that second one I pulled out, it said the Cadillac on it. OK. And I'm like the Cadillac, a Cadillac freaking putter. That's pretty freaking who like if, but if Cadillac can make a putter, why can't I?

Right, right, Why can't I? So I kind of started those things and it wasn't until a point when they, they got this, a donation to the first tee of these, of these clubs and, and, and stuff that had come in, got this big old box and we'd gone down and, and Brent started they, we started tearing them apart and I pulled one out And as I pulled the, the, the club out and the shaft, it sat on it, the key.

And that was the exact moment that I knew like, because I served just fine, fine keys right in life that it was like, wait a minute, that's it, that's it. Like between if Cadillac can make a putter, why can't you? And now you have some shafts and it says the key on it. You better do something with it. So again, trial and error.

What are you going to do? I first wrote it down on paper and then I, I've got a whole like, each stage that it went through of, and it was heartfelt, like, OK, who's this supposed to go to? And when I finally got down to the last, I mean, I had ten of them that I handmade each one of them blood, sweat and tears. I mean, I even ended up at my father's home where he passed away two years ago. And, you know, we had a kind of a tough relationship.

You know, we never saw. We're just too much alike. But I ended up at his house because I was kind of in again, I'm in humble stages again in life. Being at the golf course has been very humble. OK. And so that thing of, like, the old Jeremy would have went out and just bought all the machinery I needed to make the stuff, you know? But like, I'm not on that budget anymore. Yeah. So I had to be resourceful,

right? And I'm like, you know, and almost at times, you think, like, maybe Dad was talking to me, saying, hey, run over to my house and, like, grab this stuff. It's there and you can use it. I did that, man. Went and got it from a dad's house, brought it, you know, to the back of the golf course and started my journey. Because the time, like each one I think took me about almost probably 6 hours, you know, to sit and sand and do all the things 'cause I wanted to make

them just perfect. And then I had to figure out that I can't make them all perfect. Each one of them are just going to be however the hell they show up because I don't have control of that, which is another efficiency that I blew. I had to learn what I'm doing right, But as I did that, I had to sit and like I started like have this thing like who would I give one to or who would I write? And it was like, no, it doesn't

matter. It it'll just, it'll manifest itself whenever it's supposed to come. And I've been going on my normal routine, you know, home on and listening to you guys for a long time. And I had done a meditation and, and I came in and this was what I wrote after the meditation. And it's just all of these things in life that I needed to do and there's a bunch of check marks on them. And down here in the bottom, I had this idea of like, I'd be really cool that it be a do a

podcast. The more the marijuana Mormon and I wrote right below it contact cannabis school. OK, because always at the end of your thing, you guys have the thing about Spotify or whatever. It is really easy and all this other stuff. And so I'm just, it was like, Oh gosh, I got to, you know, but I got to get them first. And so I like had this thing of these care packages you got today. We're like already sitting in

the PGA building. Like all of my guys, they're like blown away because like they, we've had this discussion, they've listened to the sad, like there's all these things, right? And so like when all of these things came together and it just was like, like, how did how did we make this? How do we make? This matter like how did all this just happen?

And like, I'm really like freaking here and just like hanging out with you guys and just, you know, just doing this thing and that's I don't know that I it's just weird. I I it's AI mean goosebumps. It's just a paradigm of, of weirdness. You know, to go back to, to the shapes. You know, one of the big things that Jesse did right out of the, you know, the gates there was made me feel loved, made me feel loved.

He reciprocated the love that that I threw out to him and was automatically already knew what he had to do, right. And he sends me he sends me here. Take the shape, Squiz, you know, And so when you first get pushed on something like, oh God, he's just trying to sell. Something right? He's just trying to sell. No, I'm just, let me tell you A. Story No, I'm just sitting here. But that's where you come out and you're like, OK, well, maybe

I'll open it up, you know? And again, because when you're self checking, the universe does not bring you things like like you better, you better freaking do what's happening, right? And then you get to the point you're like, shit, he wants me to put my e-mail in. Good gosh, like OK, well, I guess I can, I can do that, right? But what it unlocked because this just happened to be a date

weekend for me and my wife. OK, so I process it and I did this and I'm telling her all about, I mean, this is just, you know, you just like this just happened. And you know, my wife's she's she, she's an Oval, OK, she's an Oval. And so, you know, Jesse's, I mean, like, damn, my wife, he wants to know my wife. He sends me the stuff, you know, And so we just happen to be up in Wyoming and we're having our date and reading this stuff.

And we, I cannot explain to you what it opened up just by two humans having this little thing to say, Oh my gosh, that's how I am. And Oh my gosh, that's, and you're not trying to do this to me and you're not like we had this new realization of like, Oh my gosh, this is a whole new level of friendship that I didn't know could exist. Now we've been working through that the last few days. It's a work in progress. Right. Oh, totally. But to have that blueprint?

It's a CHEAT SHEET. To know that. This is how they act. This is who they are. That's how they're. Wired and they're not doing it to try to hurt me like you. Can just see when they're in their positive state or their negative. State, well, even if they're in a negative state, you can go, well, they're just saying this out of a place of love because they want these things for me. Oh, OK, so you don't go in with I got to be right. Exactly.

Yeah, because, but that's that part of like all the tools in my toolbox that I've got up to this point. I thought I was like pinging, right? And this like opened up a new like a new toolbox of like, OK, well this. Is dude, it's the funniest thing that like that, like you're like, oh, he's trying to sell me. Like I have been purposeful on that because I, I know what it's done for me. And I just, I have all the shapes and stuff like that, the

full reports. And I'll always tell somebody is like, take it, put my name in there. So the e-mail campaign doesn't go to you because if you don't put my name in there, you don't select me as a coach. It will send you into this e-mail campaign. And it's not good right now, but it's great. I say that and they go, oh, you want my e-mail? No, no, no. So the emails don't come to you. The only thing you're going to get is the shape. And I go take it, have fun. And then always people go, well,

how much does this cost? I'm like, no, no, no. Something has changed my life. And there's two things. It's not. It's not an MLM and it's not a supplement. And they go. OK, well what do I got to do for it? Take it and I'll give it to you then. What do we do with that threat? You have any questions, let me know. It's it like? Speaks for itself. It really does it.

Does I and I and I I think that's that part and that's where I come to this, you know, being able to be so blessed to be able to meet Kim and Jesse in all of that right in in in that journey of just putting it together like is mind blowing. I mean, to have this experience in my life to, you know, to, to share truth. I mean, that's, that's what it freaking boils down to is just being honest. Yeah, and being, I mean, that's being true. And that's one of the things I've loved about that.

You know, Brandon, I always say that because, you know, I wouldn't have, it wouldn't have worked out the way it did, man. It wouldn't have worked out the way it did. And I had to meet his, his cousin, marry her, not really be friends. He used to hang out with his brother and then this just happened, like I was in a bad spot in my life. And he's like, dude, you need a job. Well, the call center, I workouts higher and you should get it over there.

And he was so awesome to me. Like he showed me how to do it this like my first sales job. And he's like, this is how you do it. And he gives me a quick win and gave me the sale. And I see a pop up on the board. I'm like, this guy's all right. And yeah, yeah, he is. He's he's brought me into this and I I always been doing the same, like we're always looking out for each other. I but cannabis will do that with almost anybody.

If if you know like the fact that you had cannabis and I that we both use cannabis and we met each other when they did instant Bon, yes, instant bon. Instant. And it's just. And, and it's like that in every situation, anytime it comes. Yeah, anywhere. Onto it. Doesn't it? Though anywhere, anywhere. So it's there's no mistakes in it and it was so awesome because it would, it just feels so amazing to be able to do that and you're going to be making

all these putters. Well, that's the I mean, that's The thing is we've, we've, I've handmade the tan. I've still got two left to, to give away the the first one that we, that we, that I presented, created a a very, you know, generous situation to be able to make it grow a little bit more and to make it more, you know, more more profitable. We had and then, you know, like these little things came into to push us to building kind of like a political putter.

But my, I'm all for trying to help with PTSD. Then in a situation where, you know, trying to to to not quite sure what all that looks like right now, like the framework of it all, but, you know, to helping, you know, convicts or, you know, felons getting out of jail, wanting to change their life like they do with with the Tribal House of Utah. They're helping, helping guys and using cannabis to be able to, you know, help them further their lives, giving them a new

start, right, new direction. So there's things that are out there, but I think it, it, it comes down to the awareness though, to hear a little bit more of the good stories that are out there surrounding cannabis. And I think that's what this has done has been able to open up that opportunity, you know, to be able to do it.

And that's what I'm so grateful for is just, you know, to be able to, to experience it, to be able to, to be a part of what's happening because consciousness is it, it, it's common guys. Like it's come, like we got it. We got to learn about, like we got to learn about it. It's just a phase of, of, of, you know, this life that we're, that we're in and, and we've just got to accept it. And The thing is, is, you know, we're reaping the, the rewards by being able to do it.

It's unlike anything that's, you know, that's out there. I mean, it's just, it's just beautiful. Yeah, it is beautiful. And you have this organization. Tell us about this organization. It's not it's or what it is this this is a little situation where I have a ADJ. It was one of my employees and he has an amazing life that he's kind of lived. He ended up becoming an employee, like I said, and just kind of through, you know, cannabis and just talking and just being real.

He came up with the greenskeepers. I was the greenskeeper OK of the place and I started making these putters because my first one was a can. It's a big freaking cannabis leaf. It was just it looks so gaudy and ugly, but it served the purpose because I had to it had to start somewhere, right? And so as that came on and just kept collaborating and he I kind of pushed him OK, we got to get the website going.

We're going to find somebody like, and he did his due diligence, but I was just there as, as the probe, you know, just kind of like, hey, we're going to do this, do this and he'd be on me. Are we getting the putter done or you doing your, you know, as little help and as the kind of two came together, it just, you know, it was kind of a golf, a

Golf Club kind of a thing. We we both have different, you know, purposes of it, but he's got a dream of, you know, trying to promote, you know, cannabis golf tournaments that, you know, was a place where we can come together with cannabis on a golf course and really. Fantastic. We have tents in key places and you can. Stop and yeah, sash at. Or whatever logs you got. I mean, however we can make that work.

But if we could bring the but bringing the bringing the well, bringing the cannabis, you know, world somewhere and bringing it together, whatever that looks like, I don't know. I mean, there's. A Well, but I mean, I think that's a great thing with the starting with the putter because the reason I mean that the whole story with it and knowing that you can be a part of it, you're going to you're going to eventually sell these, right? Well, yeah.

So they're, they're this next week we'll have the we're just, we've ordered, well we're starting with 100. So we've ordered a hundred of them, right? So they'll be, they'll be coming in. No, wait, the first one we've done was just 50. So I've just done A50 of this model of this type of one. We're going to split it up as you know, as the cannabis putter. We are going to put it on eBay and just see how many greenskeepers are out there and

want to be a part of this. And like I said, we're going to set it up to where it's coming back to help, you know, with PTSD felons, you know, working through things or even veterans. We get a lot of veterans out to our golf course and, you know, they're suffering from PTSD. Two, we've had a lot come around that are using cannabis to be able to, you know, cope with those things. And so it's just kind of that thing where we feel like we want to, you know, give back at the

same time. Yeah, so. I think there's a lot of beautiful things that could be done around that. Yeah. And we want to help out with that for sure. So you know, one we'll, we'll figure out way to be able to help you get that website up even faster. I've got a lot of friends and contacts within the marketing community. So that would be really cool for them to be a part of it. And then, you know, for those that are listening or watching, if you get to watch it, Spotify.

For those last week, we actually had our Tuesday episode aired everywhere but Spotify. Yeah, something happened with the video and they didn't pick like. I was dealing with them all yesterday, so I still have to go fix that, get that one back up. But yeah, for everyone else on Spotify watching. Yeah, if you're if you're watching, message us if you're if you're interested in getting one of those, we'll get you in touch with Jeremy. So the. Links will be below.

Yeah. All of them will be down there. Well, all of you are going to be greenskeepers, that's the thing. Just bring you into the club. I mean, you might be all over the United States, but at some point we might have a big golf course and everybody can. Oh, yeah, No, our our Utah audience is growing. I've I've been meeting a lot of people. Now every time I go by the dispo, people will recognize my voice. Yeah, that's a weird. Thing to get recognized by.

Right. Yeah, They're just like, hey, I know that voice. And. I'm like, yeah, hey, how's it going? They're just like, I, I just think it's cool, man, because it's, it's so cool to meet other people that are on that same journey. And we created this for you. Exactly. For everybody listening. We created it for you. And this what This is why, Brandon, I've been doing this for almost every week for the last three years. We record and we, we, we don't

know. We didn't know what it was going to do. We didn't think it was going to get to the size it did. But I got to tell you, dude, we just, we're just barely scratching the surface and it's being able to unite with other, you know, cannabis, cannabis enthusiasts, cannabis consumers that have found it's always a lot more than expected. That get it to like the next stage. Totally it. Does. Yeah. Because without it, I mean, when you look at life, I mean there's not. Much.

You can't do everything alone. You can't. No, it's not helping. Life on your own and definitely cannabis is a tool. It's an aid. Can it be something bad? Sure. Anything can be abused. Anything can be abused and and that's the thing of having respect and knowing yourself and loving yourself enough, right? And sometimes when we get in those, you know, in those places like. Depressive States. It has to be what it needs to be to get you where you got to get right.

Get you to where you have to go through those hard moments. I mean, that's what makes us into the people that we are, you know, coming out the other side. So it is we got to suffer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No pain, no progress without pain. So just kind of sit in it then it's OK. But if you're having a real difficult time, you know, if you've got somebody that can be able to listen to you or help you if you're having difficulties, please reach out to them.

If not, we'll even put it like a link down there to suicide prevention hotline over there to be able to help you out if you're having difficulties. And you know what, we're always really open to it too. If you're having struggles and you feel like talking to one of us is going to help. Outreach out. Yeah, totally. We, we always respond. I don't think there's ever been something that's come to us an e-mail and they're like, no, not today. Oh, there's definitely days that

it's like, no, not today. But then we e-mail them back later. But it's usually just kind of stress and all the other shit that's going on. It's like, oh fuck, I can't. No, that's that's tomorrow problem. It's good though. And, and I think the funniest things when when people hit us up, they go, Oh my gosh, I didn't think you'd respond. Like, what? What do you think we're like? Oh yeah, I was out of my yacht smoking a blunt. What I do? Who are these people messaging me or? Cousins.

Fuck off. Can't talk to them. It's it. We, we love all of you. We truly love all of you. And we're so glad you guys have been along for the journey. Jeremy, thank you so much. To ride your lawn mower and tuning in every. Yeah, I mean. And then coming on the show, this has been amazing, man. We made it. Happen guys, this is awesome. Guys.