Welcome to cannabis school. I'm your host Jessie Angeles and I'm Brandon Elder and we're here to talk to you about everything pertaining to cannabis from bait, flower Edibles, strains and everything in between. So everybody we want to be able to welcome Jonathan from 50 to 80. Whoo! Enter this happy camper piped, we've departed. You've heard us talking about it a lot. We are over the moon for this. We think it's amazing. So I have a question.
Jonathan I have an answer. Where did the idea of this come from this? This all came out of self desire. honestly, I this is the pipe. I always wanted. I started smoking prelate. I was 21. I had a good friend who got clotheslined playing basketball shattered, his shoulder, you know, start smoking marijuana, a little bit more heavier than he used to, and he came down and hung out with me. And I was a was a Stroup super straight ladies kid like no drugs, no alcohol, no nothing, right?
And he's like look dude you know I'm a smart guy. You know I'm not trying to fuck up my life like this is something that really helps me, just try it. If you don't like it, you never have to do it again. You're safe right now. I'll take care of you. I said, Okay, cool. So you know, he hands me the bong. I take a big rip on. It didn't know that you're supposed to pull the bowl, just cleared the entire thing, but only soccer a lot.
Yeah, I had big, big ones and you know, a lot of people like our first time. I smoked didn't get. Hi. Oh my God. Hi. I let me tell you, oh, great googly moogly. I was sitting there, my friends like Yo dude, that was crazy. How you feel like Cool cool. He starts attacking another goal for himself. Puts on some music. He's rocking out. He's start smoking again. So you sure are aging but yeah I just see cartoons, there's just cartoons everywhere.
He's like what do you mean like, you know, like the old-fashioned like instrument like black and white things or they were like yeah, pull up your colors next. And then, all of a sudden he was a base. Like, that's what I saw in my head as I'm listening to my friends music, right? Okay. Starts laughing. He starts busting up. He's like this that's hilarious. I was like I'll do it. Just changed theirs. Pokemon is Pokemon running around everywhere now and he
starts busting up, right? And I know this sounds like moo, like, oh man, you wait, what do you have in that bowl? And I'm just telling you it was just, it was just my Super Active Imagination. Running with it, right? Yeah. That's what we got me into this originally and I started smoking with some other people and I'll go over and I noticed a difference, right? Like this person had a really clean bong. I enjoyed this smoke that person's bong.
Just looking at it. Made me feel uncomfortable, you know. Yeah. And how Have a good experience. So really clean pipes were always my thing. Just got to have a clean pipe. Yeah, but, you know, I put out some money. I got this really fancy pipe. It was really badass. Custom blowing from a guy out in Colorado. But there is one area right away.
He made the bowl, the bud would get stuck out in the front and it would just continuously build this glob of nastiness and it didn't matter what I put in there. I just couldn't get it out. I tried reaching in there with, like, you know, the pipe cleaners and all that never could get it out. And it got to a point where I was like, yeah, this is kind of gross. See like, how old is that? I started learning about the mold that builds up on this stuff.
I was like how much X been pulling into my life. That's crazy. Yeah, so I was like, why can't I find a pipe down? But that comes apart, and is easy to clean. Well, answer is, they're made out of glass and you can't do that with glass and if you can't, oh my gosh, you are the best glassware I've ever seen in my life. That's amazing.
Yes. So start thinking about it and you know, I started getting into the production industry started, manufacturing things got close with the friend who actually bought his own CNC machines. Built his own shop and asked him was like hey dude you know I know you're really straight-laced guy. He's never even drank anything. Never like touched anything and I was like this is my idea.
I start explaining why you know there's it's not at the end of the day it's not just for me if we can make this easier people who are using this for like really, really extreme illnesses, right? We want to help them as best we can and let's make it easier but also healthier for them to do.
So if you start looking into it, a lot of the carcinogens that are in nicotine are also in marijuana just because it's that's how a plant growing plant like a burning a plant and inhaling it into that makes it, you know, the court that the correlation between Cancer and marijuana still doesn't exist, we can't find have. So there's something else in tobacco that's causing it. You know, the other four hundred and something chemicals are adding into cigarettes.
My house in leadership and on that same line, like when you have the lungs of a nicotine smoker versus the lungs of a cannabis, smoker long term, you're looking at it, if you stop smoking cigarettes, that long-term effect on your lungs is still there. But the oh bronchial effects that any cannabis smokers seized from long-term use actually dissipate if you stop smoking. Exactly, that effect they notice goes away. So the Cannabis lungs, their users lungs are not as bad as that.
Nicotine, but you're right, there are still a lot of the same carcinogens. And that's what I've looked at. Because I'm like, I've not seen any bong anything that support. Well there's I'm scientific inhalations is this company who makes a bong that they're supposed to remove carcinogens or 99% of the curse? Antigens to, that's amazing.
Yeah and I was like oh that's incredible because you think about it and if you regularly regularly using you genuinely care about your overall help Burning anything and inhaling it into your body's, not going to be the best thing for you. Like yes people are going to fight and argue like well it hasn't hurt me or hasn't done this and it's like but when was the last time you went and had X-rays and MRIs and scans of your lungs but and your overall things done all this week.
Oh hell yeah no. I'm just joking. See so and on that point you know they say it hasn't done anything to me but That's a very linear experience. They have right? Like people that say, oh, hasn't done anything to me. It's like, maybe, but you have, you don't have a pair of little self that hasn't been smoking to see like, yeah, the comparing, like, what would be different, right? Like and the parallel smoker?
Who knows? Maybe they would have been in so much pain that they got into opiates and now, you know nothing at all. We do. Yeah, we know the story right now knows that all too well. We're huge. If you, if you stop, if you stop calling the smoke in your lungs. Get better. Right? But you know, you can take another Ball but if you're an extreme pain, you still have to wait. You know how many hours? I don't like 15 minutes now, right?
But still 15 minutes of extreme pain is 15 minutes of extreme pain and for people you know living with is in your life. Instantaneous, it feels amazing. I'm okay. Now, I can take care of myself. So by just adding that little filter, you split it apart, put the filter in and he blows it up. Now it's catching all those carcinogens. Figure still getting the THC which I mean, it seems like you guys are enjoying it. I think the high is better. My lungs.
Don't hurt, you know, and it's out of a pipe like that's our. Someone who's reading historically a Gaebong person or years. I mean I still would smoke joints. You know, pipes pens an occasional blunt. Yeah. Pens. I don't like blind boxes much because I hate the tobacco. I really don't like that experience but oh my God, I'm on the other eye. I love straight-laced growing up is in like I didn't drink.
And smoke, I didn't do anything and getting introduced to it at like 18. I was around it for a year with friends regularly going. Hey, do you want to try this? Hey, do you want to try this, finally? They stopped asking because it was, I just kept telling him. No. And finally, this weird, little Mormon kids going to his friends going. Hey, you guys want to get high? And they're like, no, I'm probably gonna make know, I'd do it with you and they're like,
wait, what Mike, yeah. I I spoke with you guys and then you know, my first time I don't I don't really feel like I was high, I acted like an idiot because that's what I thought High people did. But I didn't actually experienced High tell months later and I was driving home by the time, it hit granted, it was 3:00 in the morning in a little town, where there's no one on the roads.
And I'm going 20 miles an hour. Literally thinking I'm racing down the road and I look down at the speed of my I'm going 20. Like I'm not going fast. Okay? I'm like, well, there's no one around. I'm not going to hit anyone, so I guess, I guess that's. Okay, I've got like a mile tell my house. But it was the first time was months, after I started partaking that I even experienced that, you know? And I'm thinking about that right now.
When the looking at this pipe and experiencing that one, what I really want to be able to get into the the internal design and and why that is the way it is and choosing the filter that you guys chose for this one. But what I really feel it's awesome about this is that for those who are getting Getting into cannabis. We always tell them flower first because that's going to be the best experience that you get Bar. None, I mean anything else,
teachers all that. Other fun stuff, I can't stand it when I'm talking to somebody whose brand new to it to going oh I don't smoke, that's so bad for you. I just have Edibles and I'm like you are ridiculous. What's your tolerance level? They go? I don't know. I just take the edible so you already know that they're either putting themselves into couch lock or extreme Panic. So, Like why would you ever want to not start with something that you remember? All that? Why is that?
Because of that negative connotation around smoking. Yeah, so when you eat marijuana, hey, this is awesome bit. Yeah, it's a whole different thing. It has her action with your liver and your liver itself. Secretes another chemical called 11 hydroxy metabolites. So when you smoke weed and when you eat weed, they're very different experiences, right? And I'd Roxy's totally different
than old tonight. % like like one of the cool things he told me about it. Like put it in the freezer for like five minutes and then load your bowl. It's an amazing experience and Brandon left his like almost overnight. No no no, no it was about in our because I said he did when we first started recording but I wanted to do it when we did a specific episode.
Yeah. And so I used the bong for the first episode and then when I pulled this out it been 40 minutes to an hour little thought for a little bit. The okay, okay. Okay, only thing I said I would say was Um, it was not an issue with the piece, but it was just because I had left it in there, so long there was like ice buildup on it almost that that melted. And so I just had to wipe off the outside of the pipe because it was a little bit wet and then aside from that because I let it
sit for maybe five minutes. I'll tell him. But little part like when you have well, every time I put it in the freezer and I take that hit the first hit. Second hit. It's like, none. Feel like you're inhaling anything. You only, you only sleep. Later on the exhale. Yeah, the cool part is that you get to really experience experience flower. You really cute. I don't think anywhere you get that feeling.
I mean, no bong. No volcano that I've ever tried to vaporize her that you get that flavor and and that's typically for your more advanced cannabis consumer. Is that that notes? Yeah, you can start going over there Heine. Like your this beard like it. Like, it was that small? EA over that gun. I'm detecting hints of Earth and is there a macaron region of it? That's got to be pineapple as well, right?
It's a one of the best things about, you know, really getting into cannabis, is what you guys are talking about with the flavor and whatnot, right? There's a particular moment in everybody is experience where they go. Oh my gosh, this smells completely different than this and I can tell the difference between what a sativa It smells like and what an Indica smells like and what a hybrid should smell like. Yeah and crazy.
He changes everything. And then you have your flavonoids and then you're like, okay and you can start filling even difference in cannabinoids and you're like, oh this one doesn't have CBN and it this one's got CBG and you can feel like where it hits, you differently, how it affects you differently. It's crazy.
The experience from Cannabis. When I started to know, I don't know if you guys saw this or not but I think a see University of New Mexico. I think it was they they did a study a few months ago and they use the same structure that was used in the 1970s that prove that alcohol made people more aggressive. But they instead of using alcohol, they substituted it for cannabis. And when they use alcohol, made people more aggressive. They didn't pick up on social norms is easy, switch it to
marijuana. They found that people were more empathetic. And calmer. And that there is no relation to anger and creation, anyway, safer form. But you can literally take a person was on the far left and a person's on the far right. And you can get them in a room and you can get them high. And instead of them yelling at each other, they were able to sit down and call me discuss their ideas. But then put themselves in the other person's position and see
where they were coming from. Holy shit, that's what we need. You know, like we've talked about this for Every political meeting. Yeah, this needs to fucking happened that, you know what they need to do? They need to have cannabis Special Forces, and these guys have these special gas grenades, but it's all th see when they toss it in there. Then they just use it like, those, those Flex, Flex, cuffs, but they just do to the doors. And they just leave him in there and smoke him out.
And then when they open it up, when, when someone's too ignorant, they literally just go and like, hold a bag over their head, that has straight THC in it for her. About 10 seconds. So and then all they can inhale, is that? And then they take the bag off and then the person is a lot more logical. What do you think about that? Like what if there was a hostage
situation, right? There's a hostage situation and they just freaking fog that room down and then they don't allow him to leave and then he starts begging him going. Dude, you just give me a cup of water. My mouth is so parched, right? You get the right strained, it just really makes you hungry and real dry mouth. You will comply and you'll probably realize Eli's that you did some shitty things and then the cool part about it, the cops
should be smoking outside. While it's all happened and they go. Yeah, bro. We all have bad days. No worries. No worries. Hey, come on. Bring it in. Bring it. Yeah. Does it? I know we've talked about this so many times that we, you genuinely are more empathetic just as you stated and it just more compassionate towards other people.
You look for not commonalities, but just trying to get rid of the lines and just Saying, hey, let's just coexist and and talk which is really funny because I mean I was a really aggressive person for the majority of my life. And now I am just so relaxed. I I'm better at communicating with my kids who get on my nerves to no end. And I've got it from a sixteen-year-old down to to a seven-year-old and did my sixteen-year-old.
Like, if it was like back in the day where I was growing up, like I would have been putting a wall, I probably got my ass kicked a couple times and I'm just like, hey man, let's talk this out. Let's figure out why your why you're being a complete turd and maybe we can help you out here. It just cortex isn't developed yet that's why right? So Frustrating. No decision making. No. All right, so I want to go back to. So, let's talk about the economy. So, hold on really quick.
We were just talking about, you know, first hit when it's cold, okay? Check this out. Something out of my freezer and excited. Grab a fresh fight. You got this little chamber down in here, right? Yeah, you can put, you can put an ice cube in there if you wanted to, but then it starts to melt and, you know, you got water in your pipe. So what I do is I went and I found myself some of these steel balls. My three is the steel balls and I put them inside. Oh my gosh.
That's brilliant dude. And it cools your hip down as it goes over it and that lasts longer than and then it starts to cool the pipe down to because of just need to have you need a man that would. Yeah, we're working on. It will be, will be coming out with some ball bearings. Pretty soon. We know we got a bunch of stuff that we're working on. Oh, I know, man. I mean, that's the cool part like, you know, that that And
actually segues real well. So that the design inside you got this like swirl that goes through like a question mark, why is that the real? Yeah, right there. Like that curve. So, you know, the the shank itself, right? This is this is pretty tight, right? So if you had a straight shank just straight down the middle, you got a very small area before it actually gets to the filter itself.
So by bringing it around the bowl, you allow the smoke to actually cool down and dissipate as it's going around before it gets to the filter itself. But this also helps cut down on the amount of Ash that you get in your mouth. You're not using a filter because Not everybody is going to use a filter. I don't sometimes. I don't know what that's like. I love the filter. It's so amazing. Just, I get so many more flavor.
I get so much more flavor. I think there's once that I didn't and it's because the, I wanted to see what it would do differently just to test it. Like what that experience would be? What was that? Like just like a pipe, it was a little bit cooler, like But it's still, it's a pipe, the filtering. It's a pipe. Yeah. The filter is just a better packet. Yeah, I did have a question with the filters.
When it's for five sessions or however many you say, the number is at the end of that time is the filter spent is in carcinogens. Are now entering your body? Or is it just more spent? Because of the flavor because it's been through more bowls in. Obviously, you want to switch the filter, you know, I before you answer that, I actually wanted to say, like, I actually know when to change it because I don't get anything coming through. Like it just stops coming down my Coke.
Got to change my filter and I just pop it open and exchange it. So, yeah, that's been the, the litmus for me, is exchanging it by that because I was trying just to see, you know, how many I could get through it. If it would be any difference, it would just change in flavor and I would say, probably ran 10 bowls through the filter, however, I cleaned the pipe because it would clog too much for the pipe itself. Obviously.
Yeah, so I would clean the rest of the pipe, but then just put the same filter back in and it would pull just fine, but it would obviously have not as clean of a flavor. And so I wondered if If that is, if you know. So the way the Filter Works itself, it's it's activated charcoal essential, that's all it is. Is Carbon on the inside, right? So the surface area of the carbon, the more that it comes in contact with your smoke, the cleaner the smoke is going to be right?
Like it's like looking at a tighter filter. So as your filter starts to get like if you just think of the same filter as the one that you have in your house that filters your air before it gets blown through, it has that gets Is more compacted, it's not going to work as well, because it's not going to be pulling so much as through itself.
So you're going to get less of the volume, but that volume is also going to have some of the particle lips that have just been saturated there for such a long time. So, like myself, I, I use a filter like to three sessions tops and, you know, they're not super expensive. And at the end of the day, like, you know, I have, I have a family member who, Through some pretty intensive, like lung surgery and that's really expensive.
So when you're looking at it like that is like hey you know, you might have to buy more filters but the amount that you're saving your lungs from is increased. So it's like that give and take, right? Very true. If you're if you're running three miles a day, you're not going to spend the amount on cardiovascular stuff later on, you know, the same idea. Yeah, that makes sense. That me totally makes sense.
Yeah, I love that and especially just knowing that that snap right just being able to pull it apart real quickly. Clean it, we just cleaned up right before we got on and it was so easy compared to any other pipe. But especially like, when we talk about vaporizers, you know, I have talked out, in, in the past, I've talked super highly of the packs three, I love the, the screen. - I love the
compactability. What I hate about it is that that thing it's so damned dirty so quickly and it's like I'm trying to it's like I'm making my own wax and trying to clean that thing out is insane and then when it's together like it it just it after the first time using it, it's never the same. It has this very weird flavor. I do like the convenience of it but That's just because I could pack my bowl and roll but now I can pack my bowl and roll like super easy.
And that's the cool part. Like, if I'm going somewhere, I'm just going to be like, hey, might as well use this because I know I'm going to and what I'm done taking the tumbler and just slapping that thing back on top, I love that. It's great because I don't like my bowl to always keep rolling. If I'm not sitting there smoking because I like to take a hit. Keep working on something. Come back, take a Five minutes later, keep working on something.
And if my balls rolling I burn most of my product and I literally just cap it, come back, keep going and it's fantastic. Like I don't waste any where near as much product either and you're not wasting a coin. I know, right? Actually have money cool stones that I use. So sometimes I'll sell that or like the grinder cap. I'll set the cap on my grind down. Yeah. As You know, but this this solves that problem and yeah, and jumping from that, I mean the the tumbler up on top guys.
As you, when you guys get your own, let me tell you what. It's just. So, cool question. I love that. Did you actually wear it on a lanyard? Yeah, I did. When you are like moving a lot. No, I was doing. I'm a wanted to mow the lawn but then I was like now I need to get my sixteen-year-old mon-sol. So I'm like, okay, but I just went around and did a bunch of chores. Totally fine. Just dangled. I like that. I can set it actually like this.
When I'm smoking and it'll just I magnetized it just sticking out and then I smoked and then at the end I just flip it over and it's there to have a good friend of mine that when he does. Oh, that's good. That's awesome. You got the bonfire and I love that for those who need a little more and for those who got a couple friends over like that's a really effective.
I mean, would you say that? That would be like one filters worth just the probably because that's if you pack that full I mean you're going to be Using a good and good amount of your butt. But if you pack it full, you're looking at like a good 16 hits a good fat rips.
So if you have like a group of people eight people, you can all take two hits each off of one pipe as is being filtered and it gets better, because as you burn down right, you normally when you have a really big bowl and starts to taste nasty because of all the ash on top and you gotta try to tap it out without tapping out your bud. Well, when you get halfway through it, you just turn it off.
I had it cleans it off and even you have fresh greens underneath where the flame actually hasn't touched yet. I'm sorry. That's great. And then also like if you're if you're out right like you know sometimes you like to use a match you get your match going. But what's cool about this, right? So you're blocking with your hand but then as soon as you get it inside the bowl, if what it's like a little Wind Block. Yeah, that's way. Cool mid.
That's the same thing. Get in there and it's like, that's fantastic. Yeah, and then if you really want to, you can take your hair flick, right? You can wrap it around the outside. So like, you know, it's just conveniently there for you. That's pretty cool. Yeah, you should do that. I know, that's what I think. I have a big role of it, so I do that. So, wrap it up that off a little bit. You got to where you want to be, you know, because it's all about traveling, right?
Well, I wasn't even around the base. Got all of these actual like indentations and there you could literally wrap you could. But then you have to worry about oh that, you know, have to unwrap artist. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So have you guys done this yet? All right. See you got your bud, right?
You got your flower pack a bowl but it's like one of those days you're like having a lot of decisions to make and at the end of the day you don't want to decide whether or not you want to smoke a joint or packable because like Your joints really cool but also you got that fat fire flower that you want to be using. All right. I got a joint. so that little car bright those little threads, you can actually thread it in and you can see I have not done that yet, but that is really cool.
And then, if you just want to smoke a joint, you have your, you know, Ramblers cabin, you just cover that and that blocks the airflow. So then what it's like almost like a little crowded evil dude. That's some steampunk Road and shit. That's a may. I would have never thought to close to your face with the know. Here's a comparison to the pie plate. Yes, it's a very big size. So, you know, I mean, but when it's in there, That's far enough
away. Yeah. All right but then you're also not touching in when that but we're also we have something in the works that's going to go over the end of this. It's going to just like kind of slide on that's going to add like I don't know like an inch or two the he was just has it. That was his thing. He was like I don't like it's not for me but I know that a lot of people that are new, it's harder sometimes lighting smaller pipes because that's closer to their face.
And But then I was like, yeah for me, I tip it down and so its way far away from any of that. So but if you're new and you're starting it up here and you're trying to light it, your they try to look down at it like this. Yeah. And you're bringing her eyebrows and stuff so I'm like catching your hair on fire for a new user. I'm like that extra inch. That's what she said. What just make it so much better. So I'm just thinking but that's way cool that piece, that would just slide over.
Would make it fantastic for all of those nuances. Now, is that same piece of available to slip it into a bong so that it fits in your downstem or is that all right? Yeah, but that might we might be able to come out with something like that but we, I mean, we are actually in the works for a bowl piece. Yep, to. I remember he talking about that. So pretty much picture this idea, right? But instead of the bowl being here, it's on top. Yeah. But you still have the same
connection face. So if you want to use this stuff up here, you know, like say you want to take a dab, right? So you grab your selfie. Grab yourself the love connection, right? And you throw dice in these deep end connects. Things are pretty? Yeah, yeah, I have. Traveling with this thing because like so check this out right look G little G Pen connect case but you know like oh man, it's hard to go places
and take my bong to take dabs. I wish there was a way that I could like, I don't know, pick a damn, take my pipe with me. So I could say good dad wherever I want, because it just splits apart and folds inside. That's fantastic. That's crazy. All do kind of carrying case. Yeah, wow, that's great. Yeah, see you just happened with your dad saying oh so you'd hook your G Pen right into that and then that's way cool. That is way cool.
What I like to do and there's a couple ways of doing this because the interest like pack a little bowl in there, you can throw that on and then you know, you're really gonna take a dab but then you're saturating your flower, all of that dab, loyal smoke. Right? So instead of losing it to your pipe, you're saturating your butt, but if you don't want to do that you can split it apart and Stickin. Ugh inside.
And that way you just leave your Nug in there and then you have like a dedicated Dabber and that way you're just like making your own little homemade moon rocks. That's brilliant. Yeah man. I would totally put all that but I would put my flower up top and then put an Ugg down below as well man. Yeah cuz you know did you should That to then I don't have any dab right now. I need to get to have in order to be have that. So I just had my ancestor. You should take.
I got I got some I got some oil. You want me to take it down for you guys? Yeah. That'd be. That'd be beautiful. That would be cool. I want to see this in action because that's such a you know, and while he's doing this because I'm going to go load another Bowl Utah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What I, what I really like about this pipe is the versatility, of course, Jonathan showing us everything about it, right? He's showing like, did you ever think of this?
I mean, I didn't even think about the joint thing, like that's so crazy, right? But it just shows how versatile and says when we start talking about products that you're trying to invest into you, look at the packs, the packs three is going to run you about 350 and and you're going to only get so much life out of it and I'm just being very honest about it. It's vaporizer. I've had mine for a little over a year and now it doesn't, it doesn't work the same anymore.
Right. Sorry for the prequel. My bad, my bad. No, no. I mean it, but this is just such a cool product because of what
you can be able to do with this. I mean, seriously, like I just feel like it's the go-to for anybody and when you invest into a piece such as this like anybody knows like yeah, you can go to my head shop and get some shitty little glass pipe over there and you're going to get what you paid for and then maybe upgrade to a A blur but you're having to clean it out all the time is this is so easy and the price point is spot on.
Absolutely. Thank you for long-term Investments. You said that uh that fumo pipe that you bought that literally 100 bucks, 100 bucks, kind of a waste on half of that. So when you look at that and it really didn't do much for it and this has a filter, it does all of School staff. Yeah, when was the last time you use that? With remote wipe the floor? Yeah, the food. Whoa, I gave it away. Yeah. Oh, winners last thing. Is that happy camper aside from today during this entire
conversation? Yeah, so the fumo pipe was terrible, that he gave it to me because he never used it, and I never use. No, I think I used it once or twice. Huh, okay. John's taken a dab. It's beautiful. That's cool. So convenient, you know, like I'm telling you, I went and saw a show the other day and I took this with me, this is what I use was just like one time, I was good to go. What do you puffing on? Yeah, that's what I started dabbling. That's okay. I figured you'd get to it when
you finished priorities. You can't do it on the inhale. Oh my gosh. That tastes delicious. Oh, did you say, what did you try? So, this is 22k Blue Dream Live rosin, crystals. Mmm. That sounds delicious. That looks fantastic. Oh man, it's really good, it's really good. Huffing on some soap, some soap. Wow. Yeah soap, but this been this amazing strain. I absolutely loved his string. Cottonmouth is all can get. But I'll tell you, just just awesome, just super awesome flavors.
You get through this pipe when you guys got that and you saw soap, did you just instantly think bite Club? I kind of joke around about it. I was like, you know what? It does. Is it what soap does to you is just makes you feel like really cool just makes you not want to be an asshole. So, start using some soap, so you can clean out your dirty asshole, right? So, I just quit being such an asshole, it, but it was so good. Like, I just love the flavors, I love the experience.
It's so consistent as incredibly. Wow, incredibly smooth. Yeah, like now. Obviously, it's cooling down the dab. A little bit. What is the experience of a dab through that filter through that pipe? Um, so actually, I don't even have a filter in there, okay, something, ugh, yeah, nice. When you're doing a dab. Hopefully all of the plant matter has been extracted out, so you don't need to have it in there.
I do have a lot of friends that like to do doubts with it in because it does make it restricts a little bit but it's like a it's like a one time Dad. Obsession your filters use just because shot so saturated with the oil which is kind of fun to do some time just to like see like cool. That's what's going into me. Dang, that's some thick, gooey stuff. Well, you think about it?
Because how many times when you do you have used add a break and you're seeing how much It Coats the whole neck everything else you like, okay well how much of that is going down my throat? How much of my lungs are coated with dabs. So getting back to the Whole Health thing, you know, it's man, I I do like a bong Rick like, let me tell you raver over
coming out with a bowl so you can use your mom. but when you're taking a bong, rip, You are taking water particles into your lungs, like if you cover a bong and you take a rip like, with a paper towel, but you can see that the bottom of the paper towels a little damp. So that dampness is getting inside your lungs and your lungs. Really don't like to be damned if they don't like water in the period. So if you look at the correlation between like cancer and cigarettes, it's really
high. Well, if you look at the correlation between Bond, use Use and lung infection as far as like, you know, bronchitis it's a key. Louis is like all you all these like crazy things. It's like pretty, dang high. And that was one of the other reasons I was like, hey, there's these really cool tobacco filters that have been out for a really long time that have been proven to, like, catch all the nastiest without having to dampen your lungs. You have that nice dry hit right
there. That's why they're always talking about a dryer hair. You like all those like cigarette commercials back in the day. Oh, Driest hit. We use this filter ba ba da ba da prata. There's some there's some, there's some knowledge to that. That's funny, man. Do I love it? I just like that. The filter for me is it's, it's a need. That is really cool. It is because of just the, I mean one and I like that. I know that I'm getting cleaner hit. I love that.
I think that's one of the biggest things. Yeah. Like that's why do I mean I've never Her like when I got the fumo pipe, like it was pretty cool. It was like this cool little bowl that you would like, I don't know if you've seen them, were you? Light it up? And it fills this little tube like a weird bong type thing teacher, and then you press your, like, your trumpet thing. Hey, your little. And, and that thing was weird.
It hardly worked, and when you would mean you were going to get the hit anyways, but it pulls it in and it's really dry, but it's still it's so much. I don't know. I feel like it was anything. Special. I didn't honestly I was really upset about it. I was really excited. Here are your best. You spend that much money on the bus? I saw these Stony girls reviewing it years ago, this was like, dude, it's great. We love it.
I'm like you know that looks pretty cool like I want something like that so it's not like I've never actually seen one myself. Is it like to fill up a chamber? And like Let the Smoke cool for a second before you actually Pull It in. So I'd say it's about 6 inches. Long 5 6 inches long total and about to of that is metal. And then the other is just three and a half.
Four is a glass tube and that bowl, it just has a metal button that you push down, and it's supposed to basically open the carbon, let Aaron to push the Smokin, but the problem is, that tube is so short and you're inhaling it all anyway, so it's literally just coming into it, and then you push that, and at the end, it just forces it, down your throat. But that's really all I would be doing. It's not a, I don't think it's a great concept kibera it was a an
aluminum change change. Ball. But it was a tiny tiny bowl for $100. I was like this a lot of investment for this tiny little bowl, and then to clean it out. It had a screen in that and that's another place we could talk about to. How did you guys come up with a design for this permanence great? I love the screen, and here's why real quick before you go into it, it's really easy to clean and I'm not scratching the hell out of it. Yeah. Like, it doesn't matter.
It's like it's not like the mesh and the mesh is supposed to be able to Grab as much as you can but that's where that little chamber is below. Like, it just the ash falls into that. So I only get the good stuff that's coming through, is that pretty much how it works? So, I mean, this whole design and that design. Yeah, I mean my idea behind it was, you know, when you pack a bowl and then you take a ba grip.
And after your first trip, you have little green things floating in your water and you're like ah argh why. So you have to use a screen To minimize that, right? Well, Want to do that, but that fine mesh gets clogged up real quick. So how do we find the in between? That's what it's about. It's all about. Finding that sweet gray area. That's just the perfect balance of the dark and the light. And so, that's where this came out of and this is kind of wild
the size. We came out with that little tool that it comes with. It was all by accident, that it just happened to fit in the hole that perfectly. Yeah, it was It's greatly my accident. I was just happy that you guys include the toker poker because that has been my favorite tool to uterus layers. I've had several of them and so when you guys included, I did a post about that joker poker months ago and then it was
fantastic. Because when Jesse was showing me the kit, I looked as like fuck, yeah, they have a toker poker. They send out like this is literally the best tool to ever have. Yeah there and speaking about that. So there's a whole kit you have, you can you can buy the pipe by itself and it doesn't have all the bells and whistles. So I recommend 100%. So what we got, is the full kit, it comes with your bonfire, your Rambler, and the love
connection. Yeah. And with four filters to get your get your, I mean, definitely so don't order a lot lately. What that is is You're bigger bowl for your party Bowl. You're dabbing connection and this cool little top end. Yeah and it comes in this sweet metal tin. Ice has cannabis School. Engraved on it because John is Blazer. Awesome. Decided to do that for us. So, okay, can't forget, I can't forget. Oh yeah, you got your rolling tray if you want to use it. Oh, also.
So one of my favorite things and you can't see it from ours, but we'll put up close up shot of it in. There that's there's this little stony-faced guy in the lid and he's also in the lid of like on top of their box and that so we'll put a close-up shot of it. Yeah it's fantastic. It's such a I love this. Unfortunately is won't be as cool as ours because ours have cannabis. Cool podcast engraved on the sides but they're definitely tune. Existence, baby.
I know. So you got your Ramblers calf, right? That's the cover. And you got your threaded stem. Looks like a little mushroom. Then this little pocket down here. This is your bonfire. Nice little ring. That's where you wrap your Wick. How about that idea? The love connection. So cool. Dropping dad, but it doesn't matter because it's aluminum. I know, it's so solid. Literally the feel of this is like these sturdiest pipe I've ever had yeah or your bowl.
So what's the part but and you think about how many people, how many pipes have you guys been broken for will, do I have had great guns, so my garage was always my smoking area for the longest time, and that meant it was cement floors. And we had just got a brand-new bong from Denver from this rewards points. I was like, oh my God, we set it on the table, someone knocked it off, and it shattered the entire Mill. We didn't even smoke out of it yet and we're like, what the fuck?
And that was, probably, one of at least 15 pieces that shattered on the like, oh, yeah, it was really. She got mad. Come on. Now, I do, I do not know at the time, it was just horrible. Yeah, Soaker tool, right? That's it right there. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah. The those little holes. That's what that's for. You're the one. The one thing I would say that I did it was really frustrated first for the brand show me there's little the the got those holes there.
Yeah. That's what he yeah, totally like to right after because if you're trying to split this thing with the filter in it it's a pain in the ass and you're going to end up AG. Gotta have that climber strength bro. Yeah, I know, right? I don't give it a quick. Or like if you have your like little dab tool, you'll adapt to lure to you just, you know, anything that really should have in their toothpicks will not
work. You got to use, you got to use like a few of them and then if you are try to open it here's a little trick. It's like it's almost like a book, right? Like you got to like split it in half that way. Ha ha ha, that's awesome man. Yeah, I have this Nifty tool that came with my doctor, Dabber switch, and it's meant for picking up the bowl out of it.
And so, it has this little hook and I literally just stick it in, And I lift it and it just pops it up nicely and I just separate it into Mica but that's oh no. That's just because I have that Nifty little tool but if not this love this. Yeah, the little Joker poker is fantastic for that. So so let's try that.
Look what what are what are people looking at, as far as investing into this, and I would not recommend buying everything separate, you need to buy the full kit, full cannot even worth it. It's 165 for the full kid that gets you, everything. Right now, it comes with four pieces, we are working on more. I mean, we're talking right now and you guys are talking about like the chamber and the release of What Not. Okay? So here, okay, right now what you guys think?
So like a little connection pieces slaps on there about, yay, big maybe that tall to a valve has a little chamber off to the side for a little bowl and you lift it up and it creates a vacuum. And the Chamber right here, and then you push it down and then it pushes it through your five. Kind of like a gravity blog that would be way. Yeah, I like that idea because it's like it's like all those cookies or Studebaker ones that you see and you're like oh cool.
But instead it's just a tiny piece for your pipe. Oh that is so cool. Yeah, that's what I love about this product. Is that there is this there? There's a road map of different products that will eventually come out that are not just being able to enhance this case to happy camper, but the 5280 brand as a whole. Because now you got attachments for a bong to be able to start getting cleaner hits from your body like all the different
things, dude. Like we're if now because of this new education from John about like, hey, you don't want a wetter hit, maybe it is. I mean if you do want to, you still get a let him you can. He's a bubbler with your filter. Oh yeah. The such anguish that, right? You got a bubbler, make sure I'm not going there saying the Nugget because we don't get the nub wet, right? Yeah. Whole town water, huh? Grab a filter and now I'm gonna have to go get an attachment to
like that's cool, right? Oh yeah, that's a nice city. That's that's the fun thing about glass that like, you can never replace is the Artistry of it. The VA is trying to see the percolation is just, it's a beautiful thing, it's a artwork in and of itself, right? And very unique style. Well, that's glass has always been an art and that's why it's really me. Holding think at some yeah, that's with Gaia on Instagram. A surge, a glass. This guy's awesome.
Like it is pieces. Thought, I'd like, you know, I mean one of the reasons why I came out with this, it's aluminum. If I drop pieces, like you're saying about this a couple times, this thing is held up. Let me tell you, I have a friend who's got? They have cement floors in their house, like those weird painted cement or whatever. Is, and they're not, they're not watching. Don't worry, it's okay.
Well, they might talk about how weird it was no, no, they might have it anyway, it's not his house. His brother built it, so, it's but basically they have this bong and he dropped it on their cement from, like, almost two feet. It didn't break. No, it didn't break. Yeah, these still have it. It just chipped the base a little bit, and Oh, what is the name of that company? It's it'll come to me if it's important. It seems you think of it? Yeah, that's great. But I was like, what in the
hell, that's an amazing piece. So, and for a bong, I feel like, well feel like any piece hitting cement Hollywood. Hi, this is there gelada, you know, you I love me some gelato gelato, it's a good strain. Hmm. Beautiful-looking Nike, dude, that Callie grown, you know, are you in Northern Cali? Know I'm in SoCal brother. Oh nice. I mean I mean I mean Orange County baby shoes. Yeah. West Coast West Coast as far as but goes for me, I mean, hey I'm
excited to see though. I've heard a lot of Cali Growers are moving to Oklahoma so I'd be curious to see what comes out of Oklahoma in the couple of years to come. Yeah, that's what it's about. It's not about, I'm from this place or that place I mean, you know, it's just a different experience on brothers so it's better but yeah it's all about better Bud but it's cool to see the diversity of the bud.
We you can try a Blue Dream from California and then have a Blue Dream from Colorado and then have a Blue Dream from Utah. They're all going to be a little bit different from each other just based upon where they were grown and And the process of how didn't notice like similar little notes and experiencing that too, but there's just a slight difference. That's why I'm very partial California. You are talking about a somalis earlier, right?
So this is this is wild. May I, I used to be a bartender at a boutique wine shop who and one of the things that I learned about wine is one of the biggest things that like people who are super into wine, the geek out about and soil content. It is a deep subject. It is wild. So like yeah, like really ways they're doing, you know, all, dude. It's it's crazy.
Like, the scientist, like, they have people that go out there and they take soil samples to see what things supplement into the soil to make it the perfect type of growing like area for a presentation, Riot, a little great but because it's different from a Pino to a Chardonnay and that's so crazy to, right. I mean, you can definitely that's like what people who really enjoy wine. You know, we we don't say that
people who get into cannabis. It definitely go down this path but it does make the experience better where you can start tailoring. Your experience based upon what you know about the plant, what's in the chairs? Cheers. So that just goes in the love connection, then basically that's cool. Whoa. Yeah, that's awesome. Dude. Huh? Yeah, because it's just a bubbler add-on piece, that's brilliant. Oh man. Yeah, and it's in telling you, it's dry so smooth.
Oh my God. But yeah, I mean, I wish I wish I'm a fucking circus, show you. That's brilliant. I need to get me one of those. I just have a solid bond that I use. I have a separate bubbler. I have multiple pipes. Oh man. So this is after one hit with a bubbler. You see how it's kind of like it's like dark and wet. Yeah, I hope you guys can see that or not, I totally can. That's what I'm talking about. That said, the dampness of taking a hit from from a bone Yeah, I noticed that.
I mean after you we had talked one our first time. Engaging. You had told me about that and I had my little bong and I did that naked. Definitely, while I was paying attention, I could feel it. I could feel it. Go weird right. Like once you think about it it's like oh this is kind of weird now. Yeah. Like all this and now it's gonna make me think I need like a mouth filter to like filter that shit on my bong. But I've been, there you go. It's already there, right?
I mean, it's that's really cool. And then you'd say yeah. Building something out soon. Yeah, so we're crazy. That's so crazy. Okay, so we've gone through all of it, you guys will be able to get this and full review. We can't recommend this enough. This is seriously like the Eastern Frontier. I've tried. And this might be a really hard question to answer because it sounds like you've been partaking for years.
Do you have a favorite strain? I do Jack such a good strain and when it comes down to it, it's just like anything mixed with Jack. Anything just that particular Jack smell of, you know, a little extra Pine. It's got that like particular Jags into it. I don't know how to explain. It's amazing. That's cool. Thanks. Is that what you were smoking when the thought of this came to fruition? Oh man. Let's see. There's not like a mushroom trip. Like the podcast.
No I think see I think I was hanging out with a friend and we were I think we might have been actively looking up like the importance of cleaning things you know like a think we might have gotten high and been like Often. Should you clean your stuff like when it comes down to it? And yeah, it was like, ooh. Oh okay, yeah, keep change your water every time. All right. Got you. Okay, try to make sure it gets dry quickly. Okay now. Okay, but check this out really quick.
If you do smoke a bong, I have. I have the craziest hack for you right now. All right, all right, we will save you so much time because you know, I hate cleaning things when you go to clean. Your body. I so salt. Just as always right? Put it in there. Don't cover, you know, where the bulk of the bowl piece goes, leave that open, but the part where you you draw from cover that with a towel that's folded over twice. And then use your vacuum hose.
To percolate. The iso is if you're taking a hit. Oh, what. That's a girl that way you don't have to worry about shaking your glass and breaking it. That's cool. So, have you ever heard of Zap degreaser? Zach Degreaser. No, I mean, that sounds familiar, but I'm not sure. Oh man, I'm excited. Yeah, Brandon Brandon psyche, he who did we see it was Eric Conn, wasn't it? Zap the Greaser. So there's this big thing. Yeah, zef.
Okay, yeah, I know what you're talking about and If you go to Lowe's that big jug is $12 and that will clean all of your pieces for the longest time and all you do, you don't need to shake it around, you just fill it. Like maybe halfway up with that and then the rest with water just so it balances out. You let it sit in there for about 10 minutes and then rinse it out with hot water and then it's perfectly spotless every time. Yeah, he we recently did that with the happy camper to.
When we cleaned it, we just put the zap in their equal part of water, hot water. ER, and just dropped it in there, left it in there for maybe I was, it was in there for five minutes. I pulled it out, and just wiped it out with a paper towel, and I was done with super easy. Okay, so check this out. If you go on to Amazon, you can actually find this stuff called limonene, and it's just the terpene. I'm pretty sure that's, that's what we're like. Yeah. Okay. It's an extract of orange peel.
Okay. Okay, so you can find this and it's not super expensive. It's like $12 for like Kourt, I think but when you use it, you have to put gloves on because it will strip the oils off your hands, like instantly but it is the fastest way to get any oil off of anything pure shit free. But it leaves a very strong smell of citrus. So you have to follow it up with Dawn and then clean that with I. So I went hey, if you can Ethanol.
Just pure 100% ethanol. Elegant your bowl, the cleanest, but this is that's like, that's how they're doing it in the laughs, holy shit? That's that's that's how you got here, but that's like staining. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, this is that's one thing's huge. It's super cool. It's easy to clean that stuff. This is so easy to clean. It is not cumbersome at all, just like we are talking about getting stuff caught in there in the mold that can grow.
On these things, the product that you want to look up is D limonium deal. Do you lie, money, okay, limonene? Yeah. D Dash limonene. Yeah, let me look it up, but be careful gloves. If you're going to use, it's okay rubber gloves. I'm telling you right now, the rubber gloves, and then I'm going to show you how easy it is to clean this. All right? Right now. All right. Okay, that's cool. I keep the valve stem on. I like being able to control the air flow.
So the one thing I'm For is social media because I didn't realize about pulling the plug entirely out, Jesse was just like, oh, you can adjust it. But then, I saw Chucky Fuego on Instagram. Was like, what the fuck? Why didn't I think of pulling that car Chucky in there either? It's amazing. Really, it's not a of pot smoking and then really quick y'all. So when you're taking a hair, right?
A lot of people, People might have like the thing where they get caught right here with their, with their lighter. Yeah. When you use a lighter, this is the proper way to use a lighter. I'm going to explain her right now. So when you lay it like this, and you tip it that way, you burn your thumb. So if you light it and you turn your hand over and you make a j into your bowl, your pieces and get caught on the magnets, and
you don't burn your thumb. It also makes the flame extend out a little bit When you read a few tricks, I don't think. Let's see how I do. Oh yeah, I just took my down like that. Anyway, yeah, I was trying to think I'm like, I don't know how I'll I'm not sure. Man, this is so cool. This is so cool. So you burn through that. What will it up? There's the filter through the filter away. You can see the dirty piece, right? Crazy dirty. But it's dirty.
So you can also see like If you can see it or not line up, do you see how much darker it is here? Compared to down here. Oh yeah, massively. That filter that gold is make such a really cool guy and you can see everything. I've got the skulls Well, that one. Yeah, Uncle ball. Okay. So like the now It does Wipeout. Super nice. Yeah. Grab your hot water and everything had to go grab from the beginning. I was like oh hold on guys. So this is some hot water. It's just hot water.
Hey there's nothing else that I just hot water so you'll get your bowl hot. Right? Is when the resin gets hot, it gets loose and that's the idea. You just want to make it loose so you just stick it in there. So say you're camping. Oh man, your balls dirty. I don't want to dirty Bowl on camping, you heat up some water and then you can head home. Is that is that really how fucking simple it is? It was just water. Okay, there's no I so in that. Alex really clean.
Getting there. All right, so you get it wet. You get you dry one. Right now for those are listening, he's going through, he's dipped it into the hot water, just just the top part with the mesh bowl and and then all he's doing is just wiping it out. So if you're like I don't like using any type of chemicals or anything like that. This is this insane. It's super clean. Yeah, it's just water. See, that's all fun. Just water. That's fantastic. That's super clean from just
water, that's insane. And then if you just want to keep like you know, robot it eventually just completely comes clean and you don't have to worry about how hard you push on your bill. Yes, it's not gonna break. You know screen? No class. No worry about shattering your piece in your hand. That would be horrible. Have you done that? No. Okay. Like that's not done that but it's cleaning up. Early Beverly, dropped a few of my day while I was cleaning them. Yeah.
Me too. Or like hit the sink or Thing. And then it shatters your like that? It's the worst, really? I shouldn't have seen even cleaned it. I'm just always like back in high ass and then I'm like I don't even feel high though at the moment, it's just like me blaming myself for breaking it. I don't know about you, but I'm feeling pretty good right now. I spoke to people and be like, yeah. How far is your ball? Oh, did you finish your bowl?
Yeah, I finish my whole hehehe perhaps just with water, though. That's insane. You're not crazy. Yeah, in process, literally. No alcohol. So then you don't have to worry about putting alcohol down your sink looting. The, you know what I mean? That's great for camping too though. That's really simple to be like if you really if you really want to you can like throw this into some in some water and you don't even have to boil it, you just have to get it hot.
Take it out with some tongs. Let it cool down for a second, don't boil your water with the with the pipe in. It doesn't even give you get that hot, you just have to get the water loose. Seriously you're at home, you have a microwave, get a cup of water, microwave it for 30 seconds, put your piece in there, see if it's hot pull it out and once you can touch it with your fingers, you can wipe it out. That's cool. So easy, that's way nice. So, it's 160 for the full kit.
We would recommend that absolutely, you have every pipes, every Every bit that you need you can be able to order filters directly through them. Now Jonathan's been really kind he's he sent us a bunch of filters. Yeah. But more than that one, what he wants to be able to do is help out some of these listeners to this episode. So Jonathan you said you created a code for us. Yeah.
So you go to get 5280.com and at checkout use code words school and you'll get 10% off of your entire Our order just for watching the podcast. So we're now that's do. Yeah. And you feel free to pass it on to whoever you feel deserves it. Yeah, absolutely, that's fantastic. So cool guys. Appreciate you guys. Thank you for having me on winky, we've enjoyed this man. Thank you so much. Thank you for inventing this, awesome pied and isn't?
Yeah, you guys will be hearing more about this pipe through us and to our listeners all over. And now I know this is only Stateside. So one thing I want to include guys is this is 100% u.s. made 100. Nothing is been imported. Nothing at all. This design everything that goes into. It is is right there on the 10. Yep. And if not we'll put one that you can see on it. Yeah, definitely. Here is ecology. Yeah, buddy. So awesome. And yeah, I love it. But yes.
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