I'm Brandon. And I'm Jesse, we're cannabis school. Having cannabis infused conversations. With everyday people. Cannabis companies. Celebrities. And your mom? Welcome to the sash. I'll tell you do when we cut ties with Steph's dad, he immediately went on this like crazy tirade of telling everybody these like horrible things. Oh, yeah, they did this or they said this or they're like this or don't trust them or like, oh, this is how they are.
I told you about that whole like where I was pulled into that. The dog thing, yeah, bullshit of that. Yeah, but being contacted by Detective Champagne, right. I think I talked about that in a previous episode. But anyways, I mean, he, he implemented me in so many different things. And then dude, there's this really cool family, the dad, he's an LDS Bishop. He married Steph and I, I had a lot of respect for this guy. I mean, he helped us buy our first home, all this stuff.
I mean, the guy was, he is a stand up guy, great guy. I was, he is a stand up guy, great guy. As we, we just separated, You know, she was going through therapy. There was a lot of stuff that came to light and she was like, what the fuck? And it wasn't, it wasn't good at all. And so when she broke those ties, he started to gaslight everybody, even Grandpa. I believe it.
Like grandpa was like, he came over with your, your Mama dropped him off and he was really upset and, and we had we're like, no, that never happened. And he's like, but why would he tell me that? And then? Manipulates people and lies. Well, but I mean, dude, the true, I mean, he was dead. I mean, he's dead. I mean, what else can you do? Like you go for you. I always find it funny when people say we're going to go pay my respects to the corpse. Yeah, they're not there. They to.
The vessel to the husk, they're not there anymore. You're going there to grieve and just say that like. For me. I'm going because I want closure. I feel more connected to grandpa all the time just driving around. I, I literally sit there and I'll be like, because it feels like he's there and I'm like grandpa and I'm like, I'm struggling with this. Or like when I'm stressed and I'm driving, I'm like, no, the car's going to make it.
It's OK. Grandpa's cursing with me like it's fine and it's weird 'cause I feel more connected to him now than I ever did. No, dude, it's 'cause he's still there with you, man. I mean, he's in you. No, I was just, it was an interesting morning, 'cause like I was not expecting that and it just kind of went. So she, she messaged me, 'cause she was like, hey, did you guys ever get your site done? You do this?
She's the one who I guess she's been, she said she's, she's been a school teacher for a while, but she's no longer teaching school. She's been doing software developing for two years. She was like, if there's anything you need or you guys want, like I, I just need to experience and I would love to help a small business if it helps, so you know, if there's something I can do. And so that's how it kind of started.
But then because we've talked off and on over the years and that like it just kind of that's how this conversation went. And I was like, fucking hey, like wasn't anticipating it, but I think it's given me a good closure on it. And because it's something that in the back of my head, I've been like, it's always an unknown of like I always wondered it's. It's hard because you hear about that and the, the, the narcissistic scars that are left on all those that are in the wake of that person.
And, and the thing I think is funny, it's like this guy I tell you about that guy Michael that I know, he says he can cure narcissism. Maybe. Which is really funny. It's like curing narcissism. It's like I'm going to cure water from being wet. They don't know. You would have to recognize that there's an issue in order for it to go away. And they will never know that because they did.
They can't see it. They don't want, well, even if they were shown a recording, they'd be like, they can't see it. You manipulated it. Yeah, that's not real. Yeah, you're, you're full of shit. It's it's deepfaked. That's very weird. Jesus Christ, I forgot to just coffee at the beginning. Erectia. Just a wee bit. Yeah, it's really good though.
No, it's just I, I feel because I haven't, I mean, I have had relationships where the other person was a gaslighter and all that and you could define him as a narcissist. But I, I think of those who are narcissist or those who ruin lives, like you want to be labeling somebody as a narcissist. OK, how many lives have they fucked up? Not like hurt your feelings or was just insensitive. Yeah, like, 'cause that's thrown
around too much. Like the guy realizes that the chicks nothing but a gold digging whore and he goes fuck you, I'm out. And she's like, oh, whatever, she gets this attitude. I mean, it's been it's surprising because my dad, God, it's been how many years since he's not been with Wendy? Yeah, gross.
I know. But in this last couple weeks, helping him remodel an apartment, he, we were talking about it and he was like, you know, he's finally come to the realization that she would always wanted to live a life of luxury, glamorous spending, all of that. So she would find that with the guy, live that, break up with him, try and do it all on her own, but doesn't have the job, the ability to sustain that or do that.
So she'd rack up a lot of debt real fast and not be able to pay it. So then she'd find another guy, date that guy, he'd pay off all her debt, She'd go have fun, do all that stuff with him. Magical pussy, bro. Something break up with him, rack up all this debt and do it again. And somehow my dad went back to this woman multiple times, paid off her debt multiple times, bought her many cars, bought like all of this garbage. He spent $25,000 on a ring for this woman.
Like all this garbage. I was like, what in the hell? And yeah, I don't understand it. I don't understand it. Well, I, you know, you're talking about I'm just making me laugh because, you know, and, and what are we? We still smoking the same screen? Yeah. Still a little egg roll this is. Very introspective and, and I'm being very open right now, but you know, when I broke up with this one girl, we, it, it was at the end and it just needed to be done and both of us knew it.
Yeah. And I used to think like, Oh yeah, you know, you mean she has she she gas let me a lot. She used me in many ways, but nothing too big because we just kind of existed in in our own sadness or whatever the fuck it was, but it wasn't positive that's what it was. I mean, we were sharing space. We we we probably had sex a handful of times. Connect sometimes on trauma bonding, shit bonding of like jobs, misery loves, misery
bonding. Yeah. And that's just it. I feel like unfortunately at times some of us get into a relationship in that in trauma bonding and misery bonding and whatever it is, and you're like, oh, hey, look, we connect and we resonate this. And then maybe that's not the best, healthiest relationship,
but that's what you have. And then you're like, oh, OK, here's where I'm at. But then if they're still stuck in that or you're still stuck in that, you know you're not actually working towards a healthier version of you. Yeah, having a conversation and knowing that the conversation comes in time, you can't force that part.
And so a lot of times as the other person over there, if you can recognize that there's definitely something going on and if you can be cognizant of that one, you just have to have patience. I think it's coming from feeling safe enough to open up about those 100% absolutely. And maybe if that's something that you're wanting to foster within a relationship, maybe start by opening up with
vulnerability. You know, if you're wanting to get some from your partner, give a little to see if you can help open that door. No, no, no, that's, it's, that's interesting to say that because it, it was something that I, I had talked about with an another person about this whole role of, of being able to build these conversations. And it takes time for conversations to, to build because it's so complicated for many people. No wonder why everybody goes to Tinder, bumble or whatever.
They're just like, wait a minute, you mean we have to talk? No, Yeah, you know, cuz that, I mean, now you can have a conversation because now there's definitely nothing in between you. You're just like, yeah, we've seen each other naked. We put our mouth on things. You know, there's a stain that's never going to come out, whatever, right, Whatever has happened during that time. And now you can have a conversation, but now it's an awkward conversation because you
don't know each other. Yeah. And you did something that was pretty intense, and now you're just supposed to be vulnerable. Yeah. Extremely vulnerable, dude. Yeah. I mean, dude, that's if. I mean, guys won't even stand next to each other in public stalls, afraid that they. Might like. Magic glimpse of the other dude's Dick or? The other dude might glimpse at their Dick. Like I can't let someone look at
my Dick, that'll be gay. Yeah, well, I'm gay just from, from him looking, you know, so funny, dude. Well, and that, that's something that I think is funny too, because. I like to stand next to those people. Like I just go over there, go
hey. So Emily and all the girlfriends in our group, they do. It's been like once a year they get together and they call it a boob painting night and they all get canvases and they paint their boobs and they put them all on the canvas and they have all this artistic whatever from Boo painting and they do that every year. It's an annual tradition that they do now. They get together, they do dinner, they have drinks, they just make a whole evening of it. And it's become this tradition
that they all love. But then they joke about it like, oh, the guys will have a a guys night and they'll do Dick paintings. I'm like, yeah, we'll just be over there like flop. Where he goes flop. Just, you know, place the balls on the canvas and. Yeah, that's, I mean, I was, I was listening to that and I, I immediately was thinking about like this. It's a Klumberg. No, I was, I lost.
It was a funny thing. It was a skip from a comedian, but it it's definitely like that where it's like, Oh yeah. It's talking about how he's like, he was talking. He's like women have these, like, crazy stories of, you know, when they when they hook up with another woman, they're just like, well, the boys were fishing and me and Nadine were just hanging out and, you know, she slipped and kind of cut my
breast and. And we laughed and she laughed and then we kissed and, you know, then we went down on each other. It was very beautiful. But we're not gay. And like, what? And this is like, you'd never hear guys talking about that. Yeah. We were watching the game and I was reaching for some chips and I accidentally touched Chad's balls. So what do you do, man? Yeah, he goes. He goes. And then we started to blow each other. But we're not gay. It's just like what?
What Like it's so funny, but it it really is. It's like this weird thing that we feel like we can't be near somebody else. Even like women where they're very more OK being oh, here, let me see your boobs or let's go try on these things. And yet guys like, oh, don't. Not all women. I mean, they're, they're, they're definitely someone. But I mean, it's, it's just weird. Like, yeah, why? Why? No. Why? It's just very different.
It's like somebody read a book and said this would be a good idea, but we're going to use boobs instead. I mean, I like boobs. Yeah, but that'd be kind of an awkward place. You go in there and there's just like, you know, there's oil paintings on the wall. It's like, and I won't say the the, the painting, but it was like the painting that used to be up there.
It used to make me very uncomfortable and it was the purpose of it was to make you uncomfortable and then they, well, I. Was just like, I understand you want to paint this, but what if my parents come over? What if your parents come over? Like I understand that this is something you feel OK with, but have you fully thought this through? And so now it doesn't sit out here. So it's just like. Just above your bed or something. It's in our room on the side of the. Wall. I bet, I bet.
Yeah, it's it's definitely a different thing. And that's why you don't yuck. Someone jumps. I mean, hey, there you go. Right. I mean. This is the great prophet, Ruth says. Yeah, as Ruth says, right. We we need to have like a whole cartoon series of Ruth. I know I actually thought of just trying to take her face and seeing what AI chat like could create with her as a poker. We need to make like, a cartoon character. Yeah, that would be pretty. Cool.
And it's like, and then we have and she runs through and. Then we have daily sayings we'll just make up a bunch of shit and she'll be over there. I love this. Yeah, let's make that. Let's make that. That'd be awesome. I don't know. Ruth, if you listen to this show, I'm sorry. Or actually, Ruth, if you listen to this show, I'm not sorry. We still are waiting to have you on the show.
Maybe we need you on the show. Oh yeah, Speaking of, I've got a guest I ran into on Wednesday. With your car, are they OK? No. That's why they're going to be on the show. They might be here. I was like, I don't have any money and he's like, just let me be on your show and I'm like, done. All you had to do is hit him with your car. Yeah. We we could totally tell that now. So this is actually really funny
because it's all over. So back during the pandemic, I was doing marketing and I got hired by this CBD company to help them come up with content and it was really difficult because it was really low rent. Now here's the thing though, they had a roll on that has been one of the best pains CBD ones. All the other ones are just like a bunch of menthol and it literally. Just didn't smell menthol. No, it smelled that it was really good.
Kind of like Coca-Cola. But I liked it because it was like a stick, like a roll instead of the roll ONS are messy. Yeah, they're so messy. But the stick? Wasn't super messy. I liked it. She called it the trouble Stick and it worked really well. A lot of these CBD products work really well. I really like this one. But anyways, I worked with her. It it, I mean, she just would didn't have the budget or anything like that. We mocked up some. I was just like, yeah.
And I tried a bunch of things and we, we advertise it on the show like just because. And she, I'm, I don't know if she got any sales permit. It was a lot. It was like in the early days of this podcast. And then randomly I got sued by her saying that I never did anything. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She's like, yeah, yeah, I want a refund on that. I'm like, this is intellectual property. Ever.
So she took me to court. In small claims court she won and she came after me and I had like literally no money. Like any money that I made went to any of the bills I could pay. Yep. And I'm just like what the fuck? It was the dumbest thing. And then she said finally she's like, hey, I'll let it go if you guys do a couple commercials. So go back to the episodes and see which ones they are.
What am I going to tell you? But but it was funny because it's like, I don't even know why I brought that up, but I just know that it was funny. Yeah, this is a weird. It's a very interesting strain. I I do enjoy it, but it takes you. It's not like lose your train of thought. I feel like it's a very focused strain, but it's a very your mind goes to weird places with it. Yeah, this is watching. This is like going on YouTube rabbit holes of like the Y files. But it's your mind.
Yeah, your mind just starts drifting. To it's going through your mind files. Yeah, the mind files. Yeah. And so that's. What they'll kind of call this one. Egg roll drops into your mind files and just goes on deep dive. The way back machine. The way back. Oh my gosh, that's the Mr. Peabody and yeah, yeah, Sherman, Mr. Peabody it. Was a good show. Yeah, I like the I like kids shows too, man. Some of them are good. Some of them are fucking stupid as hell. Oh yeah, but you have to watch
them with your kids anyway. So then you're like, oh, I just like, I have to find something that only dumbs me down like so much. Well, dude, it's like, you know, it's the unfortunate curse that certain actors have. Like when we're talking about dumbing down Ryan Reynolds in anything but Deadpool is something that's not going to do well. I'm just going to say I. Love Ryan Reynolds's Deadpool, that's like one of my favorite characters. And I feel bad dude, he has set
himself on fire recently like. That sounds painful. Yeah, they get him and his wife, his wife, his wife started all this bullshit, but it just sucks because you know, he's a he's just funny. He's just, he's the guy that's around. He's always cracking jokes and you just you just you feel funny around him. And I've heard like other actors are like, I, I fucking hate him. And I'm like, yeah, you probably, you probably weren't. I mean, who knows? People can hate whoever you
want, right? But. I mean, I don't know him as a person so. No, no, I don't know. I mean at all. The character that he plays, and I think it's funny. Deadpool is hilarious and then now it's like either he's fired or he is at a minimal role in the MCU now. What's the MCU? Marvel Universe. Oh, why? Because his wife leaked the parts of the script. How?
To Deadpool Wolverine way before and then they used the Ryan rewrote parts in there to make fun of the guy that she and his wife and this guy who did a movie together. They're in a lawsuit together and Ryan put this whole thing into the thing of nice pool is all about this guy. Anyways, it's just tragic because it went from this like somebody being egotistical to a full on like destroying a somebody's reputation. Like it's not even destroying
their career. I I destroying your career would be like someone finding out that you're embezzling money. No, no, I feel like. Trust you destroying your career. I feel like for someone else to destroy your career. I don't know what. I don't even. I don't even mean career, I'm just saying like your reputation, it just is so much more worse. Oh yeah, it's like somebody's you everywhere. Well it's like having like a top
performing only fan site. Good for you, you're making a shit ton of money and you don't really have to do. And take out my only fans what could? You imagine your skinny ass on that dude? Yeah, like moving around on a bed or something. I don't know what the only fans does. I don't want to know. It's easy. You can call Find me under Auschwitz number 467 dude. Oh, that's gross. That's so gross. No, it's actually starving Ethiopian #6. Number six, right? There's actually there's.
It's actually starving Ethiopian hashtag 6. That's what it says, right? It's a hashtag. No, I, I, I, I mean, that's the part, right? You get this like huge platform, make a ton of money, yet you could never really ever live that down. And it's always going to be a point of contention. On how you present yourself, the 'cause I think a lot of people have this whole different persona of like they have their only fans name and then their real life name and the real life
things. And that pastor lady who I had on my other show, she has her own only fan. She was an ex pastor, but her name on her only fans and all of her handles is her actual name. She goes by her real name. Everything she does 'cause she's like, I realized that I am not here for everyone and I'm not here to appease everyone. I'm not here to be for everyone. I'm here for me. And if I'm truly just me and living my life, those who are here for me will be here and those who aren't will leave.
And that's OK. And I was. Like it was very interesting, but for most people, I feel like they live this probably two different lives than that, where there is a one side of a, a business aspect where they live that only fans or whatever side. And then the other side, he hears me outside of work, hears me is this. And there's a very distinct like show name, screen names, you know, Oh, this is this, this is my book name, my author name.
You know, a lot of people hide behind a, a screen name of sorts, you know, a gamertag, something that's not their name. And I think it's very interesting to see just someone who presents both together at the same as the same versus. I think a lot of us have personas that they play 0. Absolutely. I don't think there's. Or people or things. Even the person who says that I'm I'm always me is not going to always be me. There's parts of you there, there's three parts.
There's your personal, there's your private, and then there's your your secret life. But even like I feel like I'm mostly the same person, the only difference is I might not say as many dirty things and I might not really swear as much depending on who I'm around. Like normally I don't say fuck in front of my family, it's just a courtesy because I know that that for them is abrasive and they're very. That is hilarious. I did not know that, like you,
you consider that word abrasive. For my family, 100% yeah. Oh wait a minute, what family we talking about here? Your mom and my family. Oh yeah, your family. So Curtis, Alec, I can say that that's fine. Jackie, honestly, I mean like my parents, external family, like if I were to show up to the whole thing and go in front of all the Holt, probably wouldn't say fuck. That's funny. If I went down to all the elder
side, I wouldn't say fuck. You know, I'll say hell, shit, damn, whatever, but I won't say fuck. Randy and Greg. Greg totally. But see, that's just how. But your dad? No, I keep your dad at an arm's distance because I don't know how what I'm going to say that may offend him. So I'm just like. We're good. Yeah. See, I've learned that most things I say will probably offend him, and so I'm just going to have to let him get over it and we'll have some hard
conversations. Yeah. So. I've normalized a lot of that in my household. I mean, and you know what? I've got kids that are like, I don't swear. And I'm like, that's cool. Like my little boy, he's like, I don't, I don't like that and I'm cool with it. But like, you know, my son yesterday he goes, fuck, I'm scared about going to the dentist tomorrow. And this is a conversation we're having and he's 15 and I'm like, and I'm I'm totally fine with this.
My wife sitting at the table and she's on her phone. She can hear him. She's not getting. Upset So when I grew up, my dad never yelled or he he yelled all the time, but he hardly swore. And the. Only time he would square was if he was really pissed and you knew if he was swearing you sure as hell better not be anywhere near. And I didn't want my kids to ever feel that way. Like oh shit dad said shit. Well I don't want it to be oh shit he hurt he said shit or
damn or hell. Now I need to be scared or nervous because he said this word. Well, couldn't it be just that that word is just commonly used because instead of going, I only use this when I'm really pissed, really fucking irritated. Then I'm going. Well, then they learn that these words come out. You better be worried. You better be scared because dad's hiss, dude. And I'm like, I never want my
kids to feel that way. So instead it's I will say fuck, I will say shit, hell, whatever it is because to me it's just a noise. It is just another noise and I. No, it's a word that has. Very long, you know, elaborate words, but to me, does that really benefit anyone? Do I really think that most people today speak in that way? Or am I going to have a disconnect because I'm going, well, I'm choosing to speak above you like? Yes, I can't. So wait a minute, where are you
going with that? Like you're saying like if anybody uses a word that. May No, no, because to me it's just, it's just a sound. So I'm not choosing it as like, well, this is an offensive word. This is an unoffensive word. It's just fuck or like you should be worried because I'm saying fuck now or, you know, it's not an angry term or anything. It's just to me, it's a word, you know, it's, it's not classified as like, hey, this needs to be tied to any sort of feeling, emotion, anything.
It can just be used anywhere, but I'm also not having to talk incredibly high brow where I'm like, Oh well, I just don't swear because. Oh, I see where you're going. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, because when I've had talks with my dad and we got in that argument and I said fuck twice in 5 minutes and he got frustrated about how that's very low brow and uneducated and and I was like.
And so that that's what I'm saying is, you know, it's not necessarily that it's a low brow or that it's, you know, that I don't need to speak high brow, like, Oh, I'm talking down or like, Oh, I only talk in these types of of ways. I'm like, I can talk on a way that someone else can understand because that's where most people talk. Why use very eloquent or high words when most people aren't using those? They're not going to, they're going to go, what the fuck did he just say?
What? Why is he throwing that in? Do I have to go Google his word? Well, you can feel the intent behind it, especially with the inflection that's coming with it, 'cause now you're just like, you're doing that because you're upset with me and you want me to feel lesser than you. But it's the same to me. That's when I'm like, it's the same as them going Frick. Heck, Dang no. They're saying the same thing. You know, and that's how I'm
like. All of these things, when you do them, they're in the same tone, same inflection, same sentence structure, everything. The only difference is you're changing the noise that's made and choosing to get a offended by the noise that I make in that exact same spot. Exactly. It's it, you know, it's it's like you could go out there and swear in another language and nobody's going to know the difference. They'll. Just go. Oh, OK, cool. He's, oh, he's being fancy.
He used French there. Yeah. Oh, that's so highbrow. You know, it's just like me out of the right, you said that and somebody be like, oh, what is that? Is that something that you put on a Taco? You know, like you could. Oh, that sounds spicy. Oh, it is. It is. Spicy, spicy shit. There you go. That's just it, you know, and, and I, I think that that's something I never wanted my kids
to feel. So I think it's great when I see kids or that that do it because I'm like, as long as they use it in nice ways, I'm like, because to me, I'm like, I don't, I will never swear out my kids. Hey, you're this, you're that, you're whatever. I will use swear words like I am so fucking frustrated and they will hear fucking but it's not you are this or you are dumb or like there's never a you are this. The swear word is never towards that. It's just an exclamation.
That's it. Yeah, no, I, I typically now use it as just part of the lex. It's just part of my daily vocabulary. Yeah, but I, I understand what you're talking about because as you know, I, I'm very big on, on tone and inclination, intonation. What what's the meaning behind my words as opposed to just saying the word itself. And so I know exactly what you're saying with the kid because I, I won't get pissed even if something happens in front of me that could be really
frustrating. I don't swear anymore because I, I don't want them to think that I, I think that this is an, a frustrating moment. They they usually hear that and it usually is. I mean, nobody says it like, you know, unless it's the shit. This is the shit. Yeah, right. That's fucking dope. Like this one guy is like every word in the English language is great but except shit. What?
That's one of the best words. He's like, but The thing is, it's great because he's like, This is why he's a he's a he's a foreigner and he's like, because it can be, Hey, whose shit is this? Be going? That's not my shit, right? Take your shit. But then you can shit, but then you also go on, Hey, that's bullshit, right? That's a bad thing. But then you could also go, Hey, this is the shit, right? So it's the same thing. It's it's tone. Your, your tone can change the meaning of the word.
And I, I, I, I feel for a lot of these people who get so hung up on the tone of the word because if you said, oh, fuck, like you're British should be like, yeah, I, I, I was talking to this British woman who owns this agency out in New York, and she was looking for a copywriter. And as we were talking, I was like, oh, I'm not a good fit for her. Like she has a certain writer, she's looking for her. So I was like, oh, that's no problem.
Pretty soon she's like, and you know that that's great. She goes, I'm LDS as well. And I'm like, OK, so I tested her because I'm like, she's from New York and she's British. Yeah, sort of talk. And I'm just like, yeah. And that's like, it's a bunch of dumb fucks, but what do you do? Yep. And I didn't, I didn't say anything. I just wanted to drop a fuck in there. And she goes, well, you can't fucking win all the time. And you. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, she goes, I'll
apologize. And I'm like, no, I was testing you. We're cool. And it's The funny thing. It's it's that what you said. It's the euphemisms. Like the meaning behind your word is not the word itself. Yeah, it's the tone and intent. And so it's like, it's like the word fuck, fuck's great. What can fit in so many things and that too. And I'm like, it's kind of like that shit.
You can place it in so many things and it can mean so many variations of stuff and so like it's, it can be used in so many different ways so. It's just a word, but the, the meaning, I mean, yeah, you can even take the word love. And now the different context comes with it because what is what is that word used for? It's used for manipulation. Often. Right, but it can also be used to be able to describe a feeling that's undescribable, right?
Because it's like it's we, we have to, we have to contextualize it. We have to, it's got to be tangible. And if it doesn't have a word or a meaning, it's just a, it's something you feel and you can't really describe. That's really hard. So you got to give it something. And the word love is awesome for that feeling because it just it just it feels like the word fits the meaning and that's strange to the sound fits. So it's same as the word fuck, like go fuck yourself.
Like whoa, dude, that guys pissed or hey, I can't wait for a real good fuck. Now all of a sudden it's like, oh, that sounds like a great time. That sounds like he's going to be having an amazing time. Yeah. And I forgot the fucking cake. Oh yeah, oh, that's fucking amazing. Or like, oh, that's fucking disgusting. It's just. Watch the fuck out. It's. Just an exclamation added to whatever descriptive word like it's just. But that's the cool part is that is that the tone dictates how it
works. And so it's so important to really understand that. Like, I'm hypersensitive to it. So when my son who's autistic, I'll say, hey, Nick, game times over, dude, I need you to turn it off. He goes, okay, and all my old mind goes, are you threatening me, right? Yeah. Are you for my back order? Right. This is like, but then I just go, hey dude, are you just saying it 'cause you're just doing a funny voice?
He goes, yeah. And I'm like, oh, OK, yeah, that's what it is. That's what it is. OK, cool. Do not take offense from it. But again, that's that's the. It just sounds like it's in a smart ass remark. It's. A double edged sword, yeah. So you have to if if you don't understand, then ask for clarity. Yeah, but that's why I had to ask I. Mean I make weird voices and shit all the time. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. You know, like. When we do like, I mean, it,
it's, it's the same thing. Like what's the what's the best line with any significant other? Are you OK? Yeah, I'm fine. And you're like, you know, now listen to that right there. Fine. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine. Yeah, I'm fine. Right. Instead of yeah, I'm fine or yeah, I'm fine. Yeah. It's just I'm fine. And you're are you? And then and then what do you say? You typically want to go and you want to call it out because you feel like for some reason that's not going to go bad.
And you go, yeah, well, you sound mad. Yeah. Fuck. Why did I just say that? He said going, oh, and I just go. Now when I hear that tone, I go, OK, you need some space inside me that I've had to learn that I don't need to fulfill is that if they're feeling bad, it doesn't mean that I have to feel bad. And I and somewhere in my growing up, I learned that where I need to feel the pain of others. Yeah. And and meaning like if they're just frustrated and upset, is it
OK? Is that a learned trait? I believe so. Because when you look at children, they don't do that. What they do is they comfort one another. If you take toddlers, what causes that? Because I feel like that's, I think it's a protective. Thing it's a protective thing that's taught. It's it's almost like getting mad at your kid because they got hurt. Yeah. Why did you do that? And like, I don't know, too. I was really just. Trying to experiment doing this and saw how far my arm could
bend the other way. Yeah, I was riding my. Bike and suddenly gravity took over. Fucked my knee up. You're like, well, stop playing with gravity. I mean, it's it, it, it's always from a protective nature, right? But the tonality that's used like now I need to be more cognizant of it. So like whenever I'm talking to my wife and, and I hear that she's upset, part of me is like, you need to feel OK. You need to ask her what's wrong. You need to find out if it's you that she's upset about.
And if it's you that's upset about, then you need to propose us a way to fix it. Like this whole thing used to go through my mind every time. And I know it goes through a lot of people's minds because they're just like, fuck. Instead of just going, the tone is telling me that either it's not important right now or that she needs space. No problem. I'm fine, OK, I don't, I don't need to go into that. And she'll come up to me later saying, hey, look, I'm upset about this.
Like, OK, cool. And it's, it's understanding. Like when you, when you leverage that and you start being able to do it, like it's, it's something that I've, I've been teaching for a while now. And it's so funny because you just watch people's faces when you use a different tone and they're like, oh, OK. And when you meet somebody who understands it and is doing it naturally, it's also it, there's a, a form of a called paralinguistics.
And when you're able to do that, like it's, it's funny because the other person starts to mimic you. Like even down to the point, you know, NLP with breath. Yeah. So I use that, yeah. To calm people down. Well, because you match them. And then you bring them to match you continuously through it to where you. Yeah. Yeah, and then they all started and they they start slowing down and it's so cool because they we have this drive to be connected
to others and will mimic them. That's why it's like my boy who loves wrestlers. And I think it's so cool. It's not a sports guy. It's not a real. Like it's not on a sports team like LeBron James. Fuck LeBron James. OK, let me tell you that right now, LeBron. James. LeBron James. Not because he's great at basketball. Not because he makes millions of dollars is because he feels the need to impose his ideas on to everybody else and that you should do it with him.
Yeah, I don't like. That with anyone though. No, I don't like when anybody does. That, yeah. And the best part is he's in the ditty pictures. Same with Leonardo DiCaprio, dude. Yeah, that was a lot of them. I don't know. Much about him, but yeah, I he's a quiet dude I'm really. Disappointed. With just how many gross like. People were in there. I. Just everyone, I'm like, what in the fuck? Because I just so the court case that I keeps getting pushed down is to go go after child predator
who molests children. And it just all this ditty stuff and that. And it it really frustrates me because it just makes me wonder how much of our system is just supporting of that because when this was reported and like the whole police thing happened is almost a decade ago, a decade ago, and it still hasn't gotten to court yet. Yeah, dude. And you know it the honestly. And this is just one case. Did you you know?
The the reasons are as old as time and it's those who possess a lot of money, who don't want to ruin their image will pay to have it cleaned. That's it. He had enough money. To make bail and stay out. And his attorney has kept it going and pushing back this long. Can you believe that? That's it. And then that's. The thing, dude? Because if this is a high profile case with some random dude who had a shitty job, he worked at Amazon fulfillment center, right?
He's pissing in bottles because they won't give him a break. And, and he's just like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to go molest this kid. One kid molested. And this guy isn't anybody in society that's noteworthy that has a lot of wealth or anything like that. Not that they're a shitty person, it's just that they don't have like a huge footprint. Yep, that guy. Would go to. Prison he thrown away, getting mass raped in prison or fucking killed right away. Right away.
And and if. I mean, he would, he should tell everybody that he he, he cookbooks, right? I got busted for financial fraud. But The thing is. That wouldn't matter because they put you in a separate section that only the Mos are in so everyone would know you're a Moe even if you told them I'm in here for this, they think about that.
That's like the the description of hell is being trapped with other people that are like you and everybody is aware of it, but nobody talks about it. Like that's a special kind of hell. Well, that was what I thought. Because for me, that's what you thought was going to. Happen, I don't believe. In a heaven or hell. So I don't think there's this concept of this invisible guy and this guy who's going to judge and send anyone anywhere.
So I don't feel that like him dying, if I ever went and killed him, that that would value 'cause it would literally chance that I go to prison, which puts more harm against my kids. And then it ends this life for this man who tortures children and causes trauma for the rest of their lives. Yeah, but. And I'm like. The only hell I. Can imagine is the hell where he has the same exact experience he's giving to all these kids to him and prison would do that. I don't I.
I I disagree. I mean I look at child molesters as people as a punishable crime of death. I know and I feel. Like and the reason why I say that. Is. I want that and maybe it's the the monster in me because I want him to suffer and if if he dies, there's no suffering. And so the the law abiding citizen man in me is like God. This is what I would do to that person. This is the type of torture I would do to that person, like to put him through the things that he put kids through and stuff.
But that's not who I am and the deepest parts. That's not something I really want to do at the same time. And I think a bullet in the head or something like that is way too good for a child molester. Oh, I'm I'm the. The why? I suggest that it's not for me, it's for to prevent more harm, because what does that do? They can't be reformed and they will only serve a small period of time unless they did a lot of kids and there's actual proof
because his has lots of kids. OK, lots of periods of time. You know how it goes, man. It's it's going to go to trial. And if they don't have enough evidence, they can't convict. And what happens? He gets, he stays out. Yeah. And he continues to do the same thing. There's like this guy, he's like a serial killer. They call him the monster of the Andes, saying that he has killed hundreds of children up there. He he rapes them and kills them. Hundreds.
And he was in prison and then he escaped and he's still on the loose. What the fuck? But. I mean, when we think about our system is bad, that system is like they don't give a fuck. But that's that's my. Struggle is yes, I do think like in that moment the best option probably is to just put them down Yeah totally, dude like we. Do it with dogs.
Oh, hey, this dog bit a person. OK, well, you've got one time you did it. OK, well, now the next time that dog we're putting it down, it is getting put down like I'm sorry, your dog is dead. Well, we put dogs down because it's humane, because, you know, we don't let them get old and decrepit in that too. So why in the hell wouldn't we do the same for, you know, child molester you're protecting.
And then that's the thing. It's a deterrent and it's a protection because when you it it's this reminds me of a really old Robin Williams stand up comedy. His his oldest stand up comedy was great. It was all cocaine filled. She was full of cocaine or it was all about. Cocaine filled and then when he was. Sober, it was really funny, but you knew he was still doing shit because he would say, oh, I'm sober now. Like you're not drinking but got
the Peruvian marching powder. But he was talking about, and this is where I think about a lot of people in laws and a law will be, this is the line. If you cross this, it's over. And then they step over that line, they go, OK, wait a minute, this is the line. Yeah. And if you step over this one, we're done. And they go, OK, if you step over this line, I'm not going to talk to you. And we're not friends anymore. Like it. It just keeps getting pushed back. And so the crime isn't as bad
and it gets pushed down. Like my biggest issue that I saw that happened in California was this whole push to be able to allow to call them maps, minor attracted persons. Yeah, I when? I heard that. I was like, that's the most fucked up thing. I identify as someone who likes kids. So a pervert. You identify as a fucking pervert, as a dead man. Or, and and the thing too that needs to be talked about like, you know what happens? So is some crazy junior high school teacher.
She fucking blows a fuse and and sucks a bunch of Dicks and and fucks some kids. Yeah, and they're like good looking women too. Boggles my mind. They're in the news and I'm like. You're like an attractive looking person. You truly do seem so are you nuts? Like what snapped that you went and you're like, it's hey, this 15 year old this like whatever it is do everybody's everybody.
At one point at a time has had this like twisted urge to do something, whether it was to push someone off a bike or steal something. Whatever it. Is something that. You're like, this isn't the moral compass I typically have been told to follow or follow, but if you steal a car. Off of a car lot because you were stealing like gum as a kid. And they go, why did you do that? And you're like, I didn't know
any better. Like that's just stupid because you understand that it's there and that's the problem that keeps persisting with it. And so it's just like if you make it OK and normal and not that big of a deal and if you get caught, don't worry, it could be a while until you even seven years and there's not even like. It's finally getting to the court that they, you know, there was a subpoena. We were thinking we were going to get court date. And now it's two months pushed
out like two to three months. And it's like, OK, there was a guy recently. That was convicted of killing his brother because his brother molested and raped his daughter, his his little girl. And So what he did is he drove over the house and beat him until he was unconscious and then keep beating him. And then he took it a step too further and he cut him up into pieces. So if he would have killed them and stopped and called the police and I killed my brother, here's what happened.
They come over act a passion. There was a guy in the 80s where his karate instructor was molesting this kid and then abducted him and took him. And luckily, luckily because of milk cartoons and billboards and all the stuff, they found that kid real fast. And they arrested the guy and they flew the guy back. They extradited him back and they brought him like on a regular flight. And the news cameras were all around there.
And the father was at a payphone, turned around, shot him and shot him right on live TV. And he was acquitted. Probably, but then other places it. Depends on the jury it. Depends on it. It depends on the laws. Too, like I mean state, it's so crazy and it's those things like when it that's why I don't believe it. What prison is for is for you to sit alone with what you have done and why you are there and why you can't have freedoms, why you can't go out. We also put people in there.
Unjustly, I wish that that's a that's. A whole different it's it's been. It that's not. Just a current thing that's been a for everything, right, Wrong. People being convicted. I agree. And there's certain things that shouldn't require prison. I think that prison should only be for those who have hurt people. Yeah, really badly. Yeah. And that's including financial. And they shouldn't go to some nice like white collar prison with fucking tennis.
Yeah, tennis courts and oh, it's tea time. OK, get the crumpets, dear dude. Have you heard of like Jordan Belfort? He was served in a Jordan Belfort's the guy that the whole movie Wolf of Wall Street was based on. Why is her name so? Jordan Belfort did. When he went to prison because he stole millions and millions and millions of dollars from people who couldn't even afford anything, and he made all this money, he went to prison and he was like, yeah, it wasn't bad.
Like he was in there with Tommy Chong. Tommy Chong was his bunk mate. And he told Tommy Chong why he was in there. Yeah, Tommy. Chong's all. Hey, man. You, you should do a movie, man. You should write a book. So he didn't turn into a best seller and he's using that money, at least that's what he says, to pay back all those people that he stole money from, hopefully. And that's cool. That's admirable.
But at the same time, dude, it's, it's this, it's just so fucked up. It the laws allow you to continue to get away with things and if you have money, you. Can do it easier. Yeah, so much easier and. Is like this guy, like I, I think the most humane thing to do for society would have been to put a fucking bullet in that guy's head after the first time he did that. I know that's true because. Even in the last 10 years since my kids thing, there's been another kid who has a case going
on right now from him too. And before that, before my kids, apparently, like I found out through all of this, there was another case like a decade before my kids won. Like there's these things that it's like, OK, this is not the first time. This is a perpetual thing. And you know, so like you said, you how many kids do you save? Well, and and think about it like.
They don't and I'm going to use the word sin, not necessarily in the the religious context, but the weight of the word, what it what it would mean in that religious context. Like it's actual, it's a, it's a. Moral action. So it's a sin as far as a moral action, not a theological based action. That's what I'm talking about, societal. Sin not Theo. No, no, no. I'm talking like a. Societal sin of doing that? What other things happened that require death?
They call capital capital a capital murder, killing two people or there's a certain intent or the state has a different meaning for capital murder. But the federal, the federal mandate states of what they're doing right. If they kill some, if they kill multiple people with intent, what happens to them? They're supposed to be they, they'll put them to death. And what do they do? They they talk about humane. What's humane, humane to let somebody?
I'm very curious what humane is. Exactly what did they do that area and and dude executioners. Have been around for a long time, but they they were for far less. They were for far less crimes. To be hung, to be shot, to be quartered. Yeah, dude, there was far. Less crimes. Like, oh, did you hear about Kathy? No, they killed her. She ate meat on Friday. Fucking bitch shouldn't have done it. Yep, she knows that's. Only a Wednesday thing. Bitch should have had a fucking
squaw. Yeah, exactly. Something makes. Karen suck eggs. And how's her family gonna feel later on? When they took that shit out. Yeah, right. So frustrated. Well, 'cause I mean, that's. Like about same with. Cannabis How many people are in?
In jail for stupid cannabis laws in states where now that's like it's legal and they're like wait everything I'm doing now would have been just fine and I would be not put in jail for this I would be out just fine for the same plant that my friends are using for this same stuff and I'm like I can totally understand that frustration or that thing especially if a lot changes going hey this changed we're not following this but you're still being held those kind of laws are bullshit and
they. Usually stay on their record. It's not. Like, hey, your record, record's wiped clean. You don't have that anymore. It's like, hey, you know, if someone you're trying to get a job, they run that that's still on your background. Like, you know, there's these things that that affects their life, their, their well-being, their like livelihood, all of this shit and our system, I hate our system, but it's, it's just,
it's a legal. System anyway you shape it and it you know where we're talking like yeah, this sucks and it's bad. I totally agree. Like I think that if anything starts to become legalized immediately anybody who's in prison for that one, as long as it's a non violent one then or or nobody had to die to be able to get that yeah, I'd be released.
Release them. Yeah, but that's the thing, like we, we will imprison people for ridiculous things such as moving a large amount of plant material, and I'm only talking about cannabis here, moving a large amount of plant material across an invisible border to. Get into the same country right the. Same fucking dirt in those areas, yet all the sudden it's different.
And then all the sudden you can go to jail for a very long time, but you can put your hands on a child, you can destroy generations of people by doing that and and wander around freely. Just fine. Yep, Yep. They'll put people in prison for far less and that's why I don't I think that there should be less. If the prisons are going to exist, it's going to be for extreme people, yeah, and it needs to be. Extreme it's. Only my my personal struggle. Because of the situation that
I've been in, dude, totally. Because I think if I truly sat down and thought it through and like put logic into it and that I would go no death penalty would be the best, most like best way for it, for humanity as a whole. Imagine if he had grown up in. A world where it was very see, and I know this is like there's there's Christians that are listening to this right now. They're nerd like dude, that's not the Christian way. I don't care. This is just how I think God put down like tons of.
People, they were horrible. Yeah, even then, if they believe in the Bible, he drowned 90% of all fucking humans because they were sinful. So there's so the child. Molesters, according to God. Would be just fine. It's biblical. Kill him. Yeah, well, in literally, he said. So well, because look at it, it's, it's like the tree. I mean, what tree is, what kind of fruit is coming from that tree? And if it's bad, it needs to be burned because it's not going to rehabilitate.
We do that to animals, just like you talked about with dogs, like the dog is put down if it bites, it's not safe, it's not out. In even in like it's not safe to have so they put it down. That's like, this is the best rapists and child molesters. I'm sorry, once you once you have done that, you have crossed the line and society has continued to enable it, yes and allow it just. Wally and a lot of times.
It's underneath this guise of being humane because if you think about it. If we started doing that well, how many people like Diddy and all these other people who that is what they've done for so long and are really affluent? Well, to do people, I think. That's why I think.
That's why so much has been allowed to slide is because we have such a large high up people that are doing it that as long as you're within, like we said, the wealthy, affluent percent that you can get out, well, then you are. But everyone else while they're in jail and then they get Moe's don't do well in prison. And so, but that's the, that's the bad thing. Dude, is that the Moe's that need it the most? Never really get there. No, they're the ones who are out.
Wealthy doing it tomorrow and hiding it or paying dude it's like. Tim Ballard. Bullshit. Or, well, dude, even worse than Tim Ballard. To the Tyler's the Taggart guy, his dad. I haven't. Looked into all his stuff. Well, dude, he. That one dude, like he, you got to think about like again, that's that for me. He was like. Child molester. Well, OK, so his.
Daughter had a friend that came over and I think she was 1516 or something like that, and he coerced her into having sex with him and they did it for a while and then she told somebody and then he got confronted. And this is one of the founders of Ancestry. Yepancestry.com. And and we knew his son. Yeah, we worked with him, yeah. And he, he, he tried to help me start a business too. Later. Yeah, he's full of shit, but. But the thing was is really horrible is that he destroyed
his family's lives. Yeah. Like it's something that will never leave his family. No, and they don't. I mean I. Think the guy served time. He served like five years or something. Oh wow. Maybe it was because it was. Consensual. I don't know. I don't know how that works. Well, that's the thing. Like now. Now put it in a different context. This wealthy, well to do business owner gets caught, served some time, but more than that, he had to pay a big fine.
I don't even know if he served time to be honest. He might have not had to, I don't know. And that's another. Bullshit thing is that. They can pay it off. Yep, right. They can pay it. Off money makes all the. World of a difference. Well, even like so, even when you get wrongly accused. So we had Jeremy Fritch.
Jeremy. From greenskeeper on Oh yeah, on the show and he was talking about how he went to jail for something he didn't do, but because he didn't have the 100 and something thousand it would take to pay the attorneys to, he just had to stay in jail. He had to go to jail. For. That and I'm like that's horrible that we do this to our like this is our system that we live in the guy I've sat in jail, which is crazy I've. Never been in jail, you know, and, and I'm like, I don't.
I don't feel like I'm a terrible, horrible person. I mean, you know, they don't know you. I know. But like. Not something that I feel like I should have to go sit in a cage, no. And and honestly. That those are the things that that's why I feel that the penal system has become something that is penal. Brandon's favorite word and snack. And I do like snacks, little snacks though. But anyways, but fuck it totally took me off the penal system.
You know a lot of people. Don't think about that. The prison system is an actual industry too. Yeah, and. That's. That's that's with our. Courts too and so cuz all of our courts are just businesses and so each city you go into is just another business and so well, it's like parking tickets like. Or or speeding tickets like, you know, like everybody, every cop tried to say, Oh no, we don't have a quota. Yeah, at certain times of the month, which is funny because
when my brother. Works for the police thing. He was like, Oh yeah, we have quota. We had to get this many tickets we had. Oh yeah. So quota. All right, so the rest of you lying Fox, stop that. Yeah, well, I mean, and again. But what are you teaching those cops so that this is what you go after all? Petty shit? Yeah, it's a business. It's not. A Protecting the People keeper TV shows where the cops stride. Around but they're like actually people a part of the community like that's.
Such a fictitious. They the reason why is because they don't emphasize any type of training of how to communicate with the general public. Not even they teach them what how to use your gun, how to defuse them and how much with that and that. Well, that's what they're they're. They go, they're doing, here's this. No, no, no, they have steps they have to go through before they can go to force. Yeah. So they'll, they'll say to
follow. Yeah, they there, there's levels of escalation that they have to follow, right. And so or what I, I refer to as the circles of violence. So once they start being able to go past these circles and start getting closer to the core, then they can start leveling up their violence. So the level of violence is going to be pepper spray, then Taser, then ASP and then pistol. What is ASP? ASP is the batons, the collapsible tons and they'll use. Those right? And people are like, oh, they
can hurt. Yeah, they can hurt. It would hurt. But they're they're. They're. Thin enough that it's just going to hurt. You could break bones with it, but you were to have to put a lot of force into breaking bones. And they're taught to hit the lower extremities in the outside of the arms, but they don't. They don't. I'm all like, I'm going for the clavicle. I'm going to stop you dead. I want to make sure you can't use that arm anymore because I
broke my collarbone one time. And if you lift it up, the little bones go clickety clack and it hurts. Oh yeah, that sounds painful. Yeah, just just the. Hard no imagining, Yeah, I've never had that happen. And that sounds like. It's yeah, I. Jumped up. I never broke a bone. I've broken a few, I've dislocated. Fingers. I've sprained ankles and stuff. I fucked my knee playing soccer. I've never broken a bone. Yeah, I had lots. Of stitches, the only thing I have. Like a couple.
Yeah, I've had a lot. Lots of stitches, the stitches for sure. You know what? I, I don't know, I, I know we got off until like almost as well. We always do. But the, the, the serious note isn't necessarily like we need to change all these things. But honestly, as a, as a community, we need to be more aware of this shit because we're so into our, our fucking digital lives and our, our pretending. What's in it for me? I I'm looking more at it myself.
I'm like, what do I need to do to be more aware of things? And I've been doing purges of social media and YouTube. I did a day where I only watched an hour total. Dude, I'm fucking proud of you, right? That's impressive. That's pretty good because I. I was finding myself bored looking at it and it was just like, OK, like like I'll I'll fast. I'm like I'm cutting a fast because I need to lower my carbs to be able to get down to my sugar. So then I can figure out what foods to add.
And a good fast is really good to clear up the mind too. And dude, it's exact same thing. I'm doing the exact same thing with with technology, like even games like I don't have to play every day. I just go, OK, I want to play, but I want to play for a good amount of time where I'm having to worry about somebody kicking me off. Yeah. So I'm just like. I don't think I've played in a few days at all and.
And I feel. Like right after Christmas when I got the wheel, I was playing more regularly. Well, yeah, 'cause you got time too. But. Now like I feel like it's. Been the last couple weeks I have not played anywhere near as much which it hasn't been bad but I've just I felt I've literally felt exhausted like so drained. 2 nights ago it was like 830 and I felt like I was ready to go to bed. I was like, I go to bed right now. I'm like, no, no, don't, don't go to bed.
It's like 830. Just just stay up like. My wife's laughing because she's just like, sometimes I'm falling asleep at 11:30 and that's early for me. Yeah, your kids are still up. Well, some of them are like. My little like Phoenix, if he's like really on one, he just what got done watching a wrestling match got him hyped the kibble just he's he's a ball of energy. But like my twins are pretty good. My son Max, he's 18.
He's whatever he's 18. That's a. Story Yeah, he's 18. But I mean, it's yeah, dude, you, you start to feel it a lot more. I just. I don't know, ma'am. Yeah, I thought about getting. Into archery again. So I actually, yeah, I because I, I lost the my Turkish horse bow. That's what I want to use again. I lost the little thumb thing that I had been using. Oh, the leather strap. Yeah, but I bought the ring. One this. Time So I bought the ring.
So I got that and then I got a new arm guard and then I thought, oh, I have the glue. That's what that's why we stopped shooting because either the tips on the one were coming off and I needed to glue them so they stayed on 'cause I had bought. What were you using? What kind of glue? I hadn't glued them yet. Remember we. Were just shooting a bunch and we kept losing either the back end or the front. Yeah, we always lose it in the new bamboo.
Arrows that I had got. I think it was either of those the tips weren't on, tips were coming off and I was. Like oh I have to glue these. Because they were losing them in the target and they'd pull off and I'm like, fuck, I have no type. So I'm like, I have to get new, oh, I need more tips. And then I need to glue everything on real nice. I've got a really good glue. I've got an epoxy. Yeah, that I'll just leave
aside. Yeah, so I've got, I've got one right here that I. Bought for it, I just never did it because we stopped using them and then I yeah, we need to get back into that and. That's another thing too, like guys, get out there, start finding something that's beyond your technology and even if you're listening to, I mean, we're like we're on your phone, we're in your ear, but what's your favorite like outdoor? Hobby. What do you guys like to do that's outside or if it's not
even outside like? What do you do that's physical? Go to the gym? Are you like a runner when you're not on your phone? Computer. TV. Yeah, what the fuck you like to do? All right, guys, till next. Week see you then later.