Carbon Fiber

Welcome to Cannabis School. I'm your host, Jesse Angeles. And I'm Brandon Elder. And we're here to talk to you about everything pertaining to cannabis from vape, flower, edibles, strains, and everything in between. Hey everybody, we are here. Yeah, we're. Excited. And for you guys, it's the same like we were here the last week, but for us it's actually been like a month and a half probably. Yeah, we record these episodes in bulk for you to make sure

that you never miss an episode. And what the misnomers of podcasting is that the podcasters who are recording every week, multiple times throughout the week. That's incredibly some do. It's a pain. It is way too much stress to. Do that. So we we have figured out, you know, as long as we've been doing this, we figured out a great way. But that's not what you're here for today. Today we're here to talk about a very cool strain that honestly, the name always reminds me of cars.

Yeah, same. I was like you, getting it all tricked out, swapping out parts, making it lighter and you. Remember that this thing used to be super expensive. Oh yeah, like there was this, this Lexus, the LFA, you know, their only supercar they made that never sold, but they had these pedals that were made out of this material and at the time it was $10,000 per pedal. That's how expensive this product. Was that's insane. Now you can buy this in sheets. Yeah, super cheap.

I mean, I had friends back in the early 2000s that were, you know, swapping out a hood for that or swapping out mirrors for that just because that carbon fiber. He just dropped it. Was what everyone was wanting. You know, it's like skunking out your car, getting that skunk top or something if it was bite and they're like. Oh, I gotta have it. That looked cool. Yeah, so just today we're talking about carbon fiber.

Carbon fiber. Not the material you use on your cars though, but the delicious euphoric cannabis strain. Yeah. And and it's kind of unique with the names that come out 'cause it the and you got to remember that there are so many of these strains to come up with a new name. Is really different for just like the slight difference in cross genetic breeding. They're like, Oh well it's it's not this one. So now we have to come up with a new name because we just slightly tweaked it. Exact.

And that's exactly what you know to lean on that for new cannabis listener, new cannabis users, it it's very difficult for you. I I imagine by going into there because I used to feel like bunch of Serial boxes like Saturday morning cartoon names like you're like, what the. But I will say recently went to Vegas for Mgbizcon. We made the rookie mistake of getting there a day early, but we had the opportunity to check out Planet 13. Yeah, Planet 13 was amazing.

That butt tender, oh was the most educated one as far as terpenes experience, like, hey, this one has this prevalent terpene. You're going to have more of this type of experience. This one is actually more prevalent in this terpene, leaning more towards this type of experience. And this one here has this terpene. You're going to lean more towards this type of experience. Yeah. And that was better than what I've had in most dispensaries.

Well, and and you know, I'd asked a question of him, I said, Are you a common educated bud tender? And he said, unfortunately, no. Most bud tenders have a very minimal understanding of most of the cannabis that are out there. They don't pay attention to the terpenes, they only pay attention to the THC content because that's what typical consumers of cannabis go towards are like, hey, what's the most

THC? And looking at a report not too long ago, they talked about in the 80s cannabis of the THC content and there was around 3%. I think I was back early in the 60s. I think like 80s. I thought it was up to like 5 or 6 wasn't. It was around 3%. That's as far as the long term study went over there and what they were able to pull together and this was a peer reviewed study talking about 3% could have been around 5% but the average. Is not very high, yeah. No.

And that's why, you know, when when you talk to people who grew up during that time and smoked cannabis at the time, they're like today's weed is nothing like the weed I grew up with. It causes them anxiety, stress, yeah, things like that, because the THC content is incredibly high. Well, now it's around 100%. Compared to then, I mean increase, it's gone out over 100% increase.

Over 100% increase in THC. So that's why when you look at some of the strains, like when we were even there at MJ Bizcon, there was a guy talking about where he's seeing Bud. In the 40s, in the. 40s. Yeah, When you think about that that so this is roughly about 24% THC. So this one is is what carbon fiber tracks in about. So even if you were at 3% your 800 times increase from that to now I know right? Like 800% increase in THC is a massive jump. That's a huge jump, yeah.

And for people, that's why, you know, when we we stress this a lot with and especially with adolescents, unfortunately and and you know for anybody that's it's their cup of tea, whatever you're going to do, that's great. But I've heard a lot of many adults, even parents, saying that's cool, they can smoke bud and I'm fine with that. Their kid? Yeah. Yeah. What? What's their reasoning? Oh, it's safer than than alcohol, but yes and no, you know, I mean.

Both of them. Well, and again, I'm, I'm still super hesitant on. That Not that it's good for them, but it is probably safer. They're not gonna like the chances of drunk driving. You're more likely to get in an accident That versus if they're high, they're going to go 5 miles an hour like the chances of. So I would say the ES Yeah, let's. Not because there are still quite a few DYS and drug, I

mean. I just feel like alcohol might be the more dangerous of the two if you're just just statistically set them side by side. Look at everything surrounding each substance. I would wager that alcohol is more dangerous than cannabis. Well, I mean, that's a. That's not a justification for allowing my child. It's just yeah, if I'm picking apples and oranges, they're ones worse than the other in my eyes.

Well, and and here's the thing, like if we had the bud from back in the day, if I was getting 3, even 10%, THCI would be OK with that. I wouldn't be as worried about it. I feel like that's like smoking hot hemp. And for those who are not familiar with that term, that's just hemp that's tested over the point 3% THC. Like you can get a wide range of cannabinoids and terpenes and that and still get a lot of

value. And maybe that might not be as bad for a kid to like an adolescent to use, if that's what their parents are allowing. Yeah. And I I don't know. I I my feelings are always back and forth on that. I'm. I'm not really comfortable with it because it's there's just too many misnomers. Well, and it's both of us agree, like neither of us are wanting to give our kids cannabis at this point. We're not going. Hey, where can we fit this into our kids?

You know, lives. And that's hard too, because I know the positives and I also know the negatives. I've experienced both and you know, recently we, we have one of our dyed in the wool super fans and he recently was talking to you about it and saying that he's going to be cutting back,

if not altogether. From well for a while THC side he'll be leaning more on CBD because he's been off for about a month and he realized because he took about a year this last year and heavily got into cannabis. Not on heavy dosing, but into understanding, into really sitting with each experience and going hey, what am I feeling, how am I feeling? Where am I? Feeling like he he spent that year to truly understand. And give it a chance, yeah. His body, his endocannabinoid

system with cannabis. And So what he's found over that year is that THC doesn't always work nice with him. It's about 50% of the time that he's having a not good experience from that And if that's half the time, that might not be the best substance for you to try and use. But he noticed, hey, I still have a lot of pain. I have a lot of aches, but CBD helps with that. And so he can still use and introduce, you know, CBD into that and not have to worry as much.

It's good. I noticed that over the years my THC intake has gone down drastically. I used to be to the point that I was going through about 1/4 an ounce a week. I am nowhere near that. That's good. I mean well and I I really mean that because one cannabis is can can become a very costly. Oh yeah, it definitely is. Medicine slash recreational substance that you invest into, right? I mean, a lot of people invest into high end whiskeys or scotches you like. You know, high end Scotch.

You're not a avid you're not drinking every day, but you you enjoy a nice Scotch. I might have like a glass of Scotch once, maybe twice a month, if that. Yeah, for for me. I don't. I don't drink at all. But I don't hate on it. I'm just like, hey, that's cool. It's all for you. Like I'll have myself a seltzer you. Used to drink, but then diabetes hit and it was like, I remember that and it was like, I can't. That's when you get older. Alcohol. I can't.

Like, that became a big shift because it was like, OK, we were getting into hanging out more and I was drinking and we had talked about it because you used to drink with Curtis. But then it was like, oh crap, diabetes is going to kick my ass if I keep drinking and doing this too. And so it was like, it's straight sugar. It didn't make any sense for you to continue that. And so, you know, I mean that's been probably one of, I know alcohol is not good for me. I don't usually enjoy the the

feeling. I just like the flavor of it. And so that's why I don't ever drink beer cat like that's why I have usually one drink because I'm not there to get drunk or buzzed or anything. It's like you're out grilling. You have a beer like. Yeah, I used to make this Jack Daniels orange glaze, and you'd put that over chicken or pork. That sounds tasty. It was it was really tasty. I remember the first time making that with my buddy when I used

to long time ago and shit. This was over 20 years ago and we were making that in his house and I was like, hey, I brought this over. I could only get 1/5 of Jack for that. So we're gonna make this glaze. This is really awesome for chicken or fish or whatever. And he's like, oh cool. And we're making it. And he's like some for the sauce. Some for me, Some. For me and and we just went back and forth. We were so drunk before the end of it and I was just like laughing.

And I always think like now with cannabis, I'm like, I don't know, man. I feel like I just don't need that. I don't want it. I just don't like the feeling I get. After. And I mean, I haven't I I'll admit I haven't had a drink probably since I was 30, 435, that's. Been a long time now. It's been a long time. And yeah, it's been that long. Yeah, about as long as I've been on cannabis. The, the moment that I got onto cannabis, I just knew I never wanted to have another drink again.

I love the taste of beer. I'll still have like, you know, duels or something like that, just for the flavor and some of it. I mean, I don't get, like the pilsner stuff where it tastes like piss, but like, I like an Amber Bach or, you know, something a little bit more hoppy. Yeah, I like an IPA. I'm one of those basic white boys. I can't. That stuff grosses me out. I mean, unless that shit's fucking ice cold. There's one that's like hazy nosh ipai fucking love that one.

But yeah, it's it's just how it is. But. But this strain, I got to say. So we experienced this strain on the way to Vegas and while we were in Vegas. And I got to tell you one of the great things about this strain, I loved the way it made me feel, even if it was midday or late afternoon. This was calming and relaxing, yet at the same time more aware. Yeah, and we've talked a lot about those. What type of strain is this? A Is this sativa is an indica.

So this one I Let's actually go and see. It's a hybrid. That's right, it's. Pretty mean in hybrid? It's with grape pie, biscotti and cookies and cream. Oh. Bake Biscotti is a great I love. Biscotti. Yeah, that was a haven't tried cookies and cream or grape pie, actually. Well, a lot of the grape strains from what I understand, I love very similar in there. But like, when you take, like, grape bait, that's pretty. Got like caraophiline is the most prevalent terpene and then

lemonine and pining. Yeah, I get the caraophiline, 'cause I I can taste that Pepperus. It's it's nice. The lemonine, it's got to be in the small amounts. I'm not getting that kind of flavor. It is, kind of. It's got kind of a a gap like a decily. I'm not really getting pining either, so it's those are just more on the like smaller terpene profiles that they have in it. Which is nice, especially for those who are prone to anxiety. Pining is something that you really want to avoid.

Which we learned I'm going down to MJ Bizcon. That was the most Jesse and I had hung out in person in God, I don't know ages or ever, ever. And Jesse realized that I I'm an incredibly anxious person. Yeah, I'm glad. That's actually when I don't use cannabis like regular. Yeah because we were in a hotel and and and while we were there I mean we'd had to go outside and and be able to do that.

We're in the car and I'll tell you man I just, you know for those of you that suffer from really acute anxiety like you just you got to do something. This is cannabis is such a a a godsend I would say, because it it really can mellow you out. But it's so hard, especially today's day and age where I always kind of feel more anxious about it, you know, No wonder why so many are being pulled to this.

Think of the alternatives that we used to have, which is more on the side of Xanax and Ativan. Alec, my brother, he is pretty conservative. He's never used. I take that back. He was not alcohol once when he was like 15 by some dude, but aside from that he's never used a substance in his life, mid 30s and he is anxious all the time now. Mostly when he flies or something like that comes up, he's gotten anxious, which is weird because he never was younger.

But he's very like skeptical to try cannabis stuff just because of, well, the perception. Yeah, But at the same time, he will go to his doctor and get a prescription of Xanax because he's going to fly. And I'm like, bro, just take CBD or take this microdose, like this microdose one would be just fine for you. I bet it would help calm your nerves and you're not having to take this other crap, but you know, it's that that state. Prescription, It's got a white.

It's got the white coat, It's got a white. Script pad that got your, you know, well they don't do that anymore. I mean they just text it or e-mail it, but you know it's it's really difficult to see that because the. Comfort of the white coat. Well, and and exactly. But even then with white coat comes poison because they, you know, I have a family member that struggled with addiction bad and you know, they had tried

heroin. They had really got into heroin, but heroin didn't even take hold a candle to Xanax. Xanax was way more it. It was more potent, longer lasting. Because heroin, it depends on where you're getting it. From what I understand, I've never tried heroin. But no interest. It's it. It just takes a hold of you. And you know what this I mean? A a lot of people have used cannabis to overcome certain other addictions, such as alcoholism or even getting off of opiates.

Perbituates. Yeah, so benzos a good. Replacement for that. To to wean off, yeah. And you know we're not saying that this is the thing you need to rely upon. But when it comes to carbon fiber, carbon fiber is it. It can be considered a waken big strain, but only for those that have got if you're really wound tight. I would suggest this because of their for me I'm not always wound tight and I am feeling very relaxed my this. Is like really?

It's in my head. I feel like not as in like the feeling of what I'm, you know, where where we're feeling it within our body, but like this strain makes me feel like I have a weighted blanket. Yeah, it's not a that's a good assumption. Not, as in, like I said, where I'm feeling it or how I'm feeling it, but as in the experience of comfort, the experience of less anxiety, the feeling of like, someone almost just giving you a hug and you're like, I'm OK. I don't feel anxious, I don't

feel stressed, I don't like. And this one's known for, like, talkative arousal, euphoria. Like, it's just it's a good strain, but it's not like seeing you in the couch. No, it's not. Lots of pressure in your head. I I feel really I don't. One of the the craziest things I'm feeling with this is I'm not feeling it like really strong in

my body or my head. It's very neutral, which is strange because normally you can start feeling at certain places, like I feel tiny bit of pressure in my back, in my upper back, middle. I feel it in my calves. That's weird. Yeah, not, but not a lot. It's not like over really relaxed. I just. I feel it down there. Yeah. No, I I don't. I don't. I don't feel it.

I feel it in my head. It's like a. Interesting. Like if a washing machine was left with water in it and you were picking it up and you hear it sloshing. My head kind of feels a little sloshy, but not in a way where it like this is really OK, so like. Foggy or just? Slightly foggy, but more on the side of just very relaxed, but almost to that point. This is really strange.

So it's relaxed, but it's at the precipice or the gait of anxiety because I'm feeling it build up in my chest, but nothing like Banana Kush on the yeah. Does that count? Like and if you haven't seen that episode, go check out Jesse Getting Really High. But I wasn't even I I thought I was freaking out, but I really wasn't. I was just like. Internally. Internally I was not feeling. Good.

But I will say that is what I noticed most people have with cannabis is the freak out is not externally, it's usually an internal freak out and depending on who they're around and if they're comfortable, they will open up about that internal freak out to the people that they're with. Because usually if you see someone and they're really high, they're sitting there and you're like, bro, are you OK? And and they're off in this world in their head.

And that's common. Like everyone experiences that. And like, I've had so many friends that when I had friends that would just be like, here, smoke this, smoke this, smoke this, smoke this, that people would be off in a whole nother world. And I'm like, hey, are you OK? And they're like, yeah, sorry, I'm, I'm just off in this whole other place. And I'm like, that's OK.

But are you OK? Like, it's OK to zone off or go out in another place, but as long as you feel OK, like because all of us, everyone who's done like, used cannabis to a decent extent, has experienced that, everyone understands what that moment is that you're going through. And if you can be there for that moment and really go, you're OK, Like, and it's OK to because they're oh, I'm freaking out.

I understand. But you're OK Everything here is OK. You are safe because I feel like, and it sucks a lot of dress with cannabis is your partner. The legality of it your, you know, whatever your work, your friend who knows. How open are you with your relationship with cannabis. Like how much of it is fear about getting caught getting in

trouble? You know, someone judging you for using it. How many posts do you see online of, you know, why can't Mommy needs a joint be as acceptable as Mommy needs a glass of wine or Mommy needs to go have a a doctor pepper or a candy bar or something to take that mind off of it. That is their personal way to reset. Just take some time for them. Like it's just normalizing it. But there's there is. There's all of that fear. Yeah.

And I don't know, I I think of it like, especially when when I personally use cannabis, I'm not ashamed of it anymore. You know, my kids, Oh yeah, you know, they, my kids just came back from school. They're doing this whole, like, drug week with teaching them about everything out there, which is pretty cool. It's in depth, like, he's like, yeah, tomorrow we're going into heroin and cocaine. And I was like, really? And he goes, yeah. And I said, what do you know about cocaine?

And he goes, oh, that it comes from South America. I'm like, he, he really, it wasn't just like, bad drugs bad. It was like teaching him about it and then what was done with it and then the damage that was done with it. And he's like, yeah, tomorrow we're going to learn about marijuana. And I was like, that's going to be a fun one. And he's like, yeah. And I said you have to let me know what they say.

And he's like, yeah, he's like, I already told him my dad uses it. And they were like, cool. And to be honest, like, I'm sure that a lot of the teachers there do, I guarantee a lot of them do the thing that really frustrates me on the side where people have that stigma or those that really could utilize it or at least try it to see if it's something that's going to be able to help you.

Where a lot of people who are first responders still won't get it because they're worried that maybe they'll change something or maybe where they live that they don't allow first responders to be able to have. It it's true. And government workers. I thought what was the one that changed federally recently or maybe it was just in Utah, there was one that changed and I think it's first responders specifically. As Utah. That they allowed it because it it is.

We had Ivy League botanicals on over a year ago, and he was a first responder, yeah, And he had realized that, like, he was super skeptical against it, didn't use it, And he had massive, massive piece PTSD from the things he had experienced. And like so many people around the country and around the world have PTSD from just really shitty things happening and seeing really shitty things. And like how many of us still struggle with those things on a day-to-day basis.

And yet he found cannabis was able to help him. And maybe that's not for everyone, but maybe it is something for you. Maybe it's something for your. Friend to be explored. Yeah, it should be explored. I mean, you know, it's the same that you need to be looking at it as if you went to see a doctor and they're like, hey, look, I know you're having a hard time. Like, you know, when when I had, I've had multiple instances of anxiety and cannabis helps out for the most part.

But there are times where it doesn't. And you know, I went to the doc, I'm like, I need something, but I can't take all this other stuff. And he gave me like the closest thing to like Benadryl and it knocked me on my ass, but it chilled me the fuck out. And there are strains and that's why there's so many strains out there, such as like carbon fiber. For me personally this needs to be handled in a low dose.

For me, I think I I mean, even smoking that full bowl, I feel slight anxiety right in the middle of my chest. But the rest of my body is very relaxed. The crazy thing is I'm aware of this, the I'm, I'm, I'm conscious of that anxiety. But the anxiety doesn't. And and you gotta remember that anxiety doesn't live like in your brain. It lives in you and it can manifest in different places. And right now I'm feeling it right in the middle of my chest. Is it a freak out moment?

Absolutely not. It is a very relaxed high with the possibility of being a little on the anxious side, yeah. So take CBD before or during or even after to help mitigate and reduce any of that anxiety you might feel like Jesse takes him after. Yeah, yeah. And it's a little bit of a lubricant to be able to get you to. And we stress that so much CBD is so great to be able to take with your sessions, after your sessions or just whenever in general that you feel like you need it.

It is essential in being able to balance out all those cannabinoids that are going through your entire body. Now if you are higher tolerance, have a lot of pain, a lot of anxiety, you found those strains of what works with you, you should be leaning into that. There is no right dose for you. It has to be figured out by you and your body.

Yeah, no one will, no one else will know that dose and everyone's is so drastically different that it's like you truly have to be the one to experiment with that and figure it out. And like we always say, go low and go slow like you can't go. There's never going to be a a bad thing that happens from taking too small of a dose, so.

No, no, I mean it's it's this is just a, I don't know it's a mid Rd. I'm feeling it like like if there was, like if there was a counter headband strain where it goes underneath your jaw. Around. Interesting. OK, that's. What it feels like now, I'm feeling it's a very slow onset. Yeah. And it I feel very mild on like it's not a very heavy experience in any way. Like it's it's pretty medium across the board. Like I'd say, this is like a 7 out of 10 strain for me.

Yeah, I'd agree. I mean, this is something where I'm relaxed enough that I could think I want to go to sleep but not really. And I could drive a car, I'd be fine. Yeah, I could be very focused because this is not very in my head at all, but like just really relaxed. Yeah, it's just very. Strange. I feel like this is a good daytime strain. It's it's name properly. It's strange. Carbon pile?

Yeah, it is a strange strain. It is it's very weird it's all over the place like but at the same time it's it's not bad it. I mean it's known for being dry mouth, dry eye I. Feel it more in my arms now. I still don't really feel it in my head. I feel it. I feel it in my in my calves. I feel it in my arms. Yeah, I know. I. Like I feel relaxed, but like, I don't. This is, they said, you guys get a chance, try out carbon fiber and and let us know what you feel on it, 'cause it's it's

really different. It's a very different feel for me from anything I've had in a really long time. And maybe it's doing, it's due to my life circumstances at this moment, You know, a lot of stress, but at the same time, like when we smoked this in Vegas, it was just chill. But I do remember the panic a little bit, but it went away pretty quickly, like an hour and it was gone on its own. Now of course, I mean I'll have some lemon juice after this and

it'll just disappear. And you have to know that the lemonine is if you are more prone to anxiety, look for a strain that's a little higher in lemonade, your kind of fruitier strains that you get into from strawberry, strawberry. Or pine pining. Yeah, and pining as well. Pining will be able to help out. Sometimes it's the opposite. Pining for me makes me more anxious. Yeah, well, like we said, everyone's endocannabinoid system is different. So you you have to play around

right down. If you try specific strains and you go, hey, this one felt like this, write it down right down the turpenes, right down the cannabinoids that you have in there so you can go next time going in cheer dispensary. Hey, I really enjoyed this experience. It had these terpenes and this cannabinoids. Do you have anything else that's similar to that? You know, I'm curious about this, you know, while we're wrapping this up, Sorry about that guys.

I want to look at a review about this strain because I think that would be very fitting right now especially how I'm feeling right now. I'm wondering if others have felt the exact same way or maybe a little bit different.

So the one thing I'm I'm just reading up one of your you know that you have aroused creative giggly happy yeah I think taking in the right dose this would definite this is not you don't need to have a lot of this strain to really go far for somebody like me I'm a a low to mid level. Well, you had one bowl in yours. Yeah, and I just had two.

And. And I still feel just right, Like I still yes, I could use a ton more, but I would also be OK just being where I'm at. Yeah, the OK, so this review says my dispensary says this is a 5050, but I think it's very sativa dominant. It's a unique but familiar see so that's that thing. It's like it's strange to place unique and familiar so it's different but the same. Yeah, I know that it is. It's so weird.

I don't feel, I don't feel hazy or foggy mentally when I smoke this, which is very important to me. I have ADHD and PTSD. All right? And why it gets five stars from me. No anxiety or heart palpitations. No paranoia. It tastes so good. One of the best I've ever tasted and burns very well, even in a bowl. Can't wait for more info about this unique yet classic feeling strain. I would agree. I think that what I'm feeling is probably due to a lot of the stressors in my life right now.

There's a lot of shit going on and probably in your guys's life, it's the holiday times and maybe for some of you people out there, it's not the best time, it's not your favorite time of the year. Yeah, you barely got enough to be able to get your cart, maybe a bowl. Your, you know, you got an eighth and you're you're trying to stretch that out as long as you can. Our hearts go out to you on that. Or maybe you're scraping Resin and that sucks too.

Yeah. Or or you're scraping your your concentrate glass just just to get another another banger follow. I mean it's you, there's tough times right now we know that you know the economy the way it is. But the one thing that I do know is, is that don't allow yourself to get kind of pulled down into that one, into the deep end of it and start going towards substances that are just going to going to cause you to do a lot of really bad things.

You know, when in doubt, smoke. Yeah, it's a holiday time, you know, put the alcohol back and take a toke. Yeah, absolutely. Well, guys, this was like you said, this is a very strange strain. I hope you got something out of this. We both hope you got something out of this. But our Patreon supporters, guys, you guys been coming out for us. We so appreciate that. You have no idea that helped us to get to Vegas.

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