Welcome to cannabis school. I'm your host Jessie Angeles and I'm Brandon Elder and we're here to talk to you about everything pertaining to cannabis from bait, flower Edibles, strains and everything in between. Oh, we're visiting with Dustin Hawksworth from fat nugs magazine tested. Thank you so much for being here.
We're very excited to have you on dude, let's get right into it. How did you come up with nugs, what pushed you to that point where you're like, I'm going to release a publication about cannabis. That's a great question. So my history with the plant dates back to when I was born basically, I have 22 family members that are either current or former military. So as they were coming back from Vietnam, we had a ton of issues
in my family, right. PTSD issues is what we would refer to it. Now we didn't know it was PTSD back then, but that's what we know it is now. So we'd let's call it. What it was was always consumed in my family was always smoked in my family. So it was always normalized. Yeah. So my earliest childhood memories are of my aunts and uncles and my dad and everybody just consuming. That's just what it was. I also With an indigenous stepfather for nine years in st. Louis.
Missouri. And he was a consumer and let's just say, I saw a plant or two around the house. Haha, I ended up putting myself through college by running pounds from Atlanta, Georgia Down to Georgia, Southern University as well. So the plant has always sort of been in my life from my earliest childhood moments of seeing my family, consume to putting myself through getting my education putting Myself through college and then I became a daily smoker in 95 or daily consumer in 95.
So again, it's been a long time that I've been around this plant, I ended up after school after graduating college, surprisingly enough and actually played college volleyball as well. So even though I'm a daily consumer, I'm still extremely active.
And it's one of the things that I like to focus on in this, with this magazine is sort of punching people in the face, with that term Stone. And anybody that thinks there's a negative connotation to it. Because I can tell you right now that I am a fucking Stoner, but I graduated from college, I am, extremely active, I played college sports, I am, you know, very creative, you know, that kind of stuff. So, I've done things in my life. So that's one of those things
with this magazine. That's very important to me. So anyway, after my grafter, graduating college ended up doing 14 years in the corporate world, Lee living that good life living that dual life, that a lot of us live, we put on our nice clothes during the day and so that we can, you know, come home and rip the bong at night and fucking day ourselves for wants, you know, that's kind of how I lived for a very long
time. And I think a lot of us do, I think a lot of us that have been around cannabis most of our lives or since our childhood, or teenage years? We realized that we're probably going to have to get like normal jobs and not be able to smoke, you know, all the time or at all or will have to go through. Tests and all that kind of shit. So yeah, I experienced all that stuff over 14 years. I did fail. A drug test. I passed drug test. All kinds of stuff.
The corporate world was definitely not for me, even though I had to do it. I also learned a lot of stuff, I focused on CX, customer data consumer insights, that kind of stuff, so customer experience. I ran a lot of really big programs for companies like apple Abercrombie, & Fitch, Home Depot, low CenturyLink, and the list goes on and on. On dude. I finally got shit cans of the last time in 2018 from my last real job, right? And I ended up going into the film industry.
My here in Atlanta. The film industry is huge. Yeah, your you did, like the banker and what women want. Yeah. What women want. Banker Godzilla vs. Kong? Dude. That's cool. We did a lot of. I did a lot of cool stuff over the four years that I was there. I am very, very lucky. And extremely privileged to have my best friend is one of the greatest filmmakers in the world. So I owe a big gratitude of debt to him for taking care of me for
four years. Basically is what he did was kind of show me the ins and outs of what he does. And the things that are important within the industry and being a part of the film Union and all of that kind of stuff, it was a really cool place to be because I was surrounded by a bunch of really fucking creative people on a daily. Basis. It was rad to be in that in those settings with a lot of people that just created things from scratch all day long.
So what that did was really kind of cement a lot of the creative things that I've always done in my life. It really cemented it in place, and it told me that I need to make sure that I'm being creative on a daily basis. I've written and released three albums on my own. I've played in bands, I do some painting blah blah blah. So I'm always looking King for some sort of creative Outlet. Creative dump is what I like to call it.
So, when the pandemic kid, I was like, what the hell do I do now? So I thought to myself. Well, I've been around the plant my entire life. I consume this fucking thing. I know a lot about the plant. I have grown in my life. There's nothing that I haven't done touched talked about discussed consumed, when it comes to the plant period through. Throughout my entire life. So I said, why don't I take my knowledge into the legal side?
Instead of always having my toes dipped into the Legacy or traditional side of things and I thought it was kind of a perfect time to do it. So really over the past I guess it's about nine months now. Eight or nine months you know after I've been in the industry for a little while, I started to want to build up this network in connecting and Linkedin is a huge part of that, right? LinkedIn is the number one platform that I know of that allows cannabis to exist in its
purest form. We can talk about smoking, we can show smoking. We can you know, whatever we got to do, we can soak, we can show consumption. We can talk about all the things that cannabis can do. So it was a really important thing for me to realize that LinkedIn was going to be key to me building this magazine because that's where are a lot of the decision-makers live. That's where a lot of the sort of influencers. I hate to use that word in the industry live.
And I don't mean that by just an influencer, I mean, people that have been around this plant for a long time, that are part of this culture that have been the part of this culture that have been respectful to the people that got us here. Maybe you're one of the people that got us here. You know, some of these people actually live on LinkedIn. That's where they operate. So I I had to use LinkedIn first
and foremost. And when I did that it helped me to develop my voice even more so in the industry itself. So about eight or nine months ago, I started looking for a new creative dump. I'm stoned sitting on my couch at night just like most of us are you know watching a TV you know watching TV wasting time, whatever it is I'm doing playing with my fucking cat and I just started to create these covers
so to speak. Yeah. And It was a way for me to really communicate on a larger scale to it. Might to my wider Network to all of my connections at once because one that allowed me to be creative as hell. I could just put a bunch of cool cannabis stuff on a cover and start to create, maybe some titles of things of articles that I would want to talk about. And I released it on a Friday and it just got huge a huge response. And I was like, what?
I was not expecting this. This was this kind of cool, you know, as cool in the response to it was so big that I couldn't catch up to the DMS and on LinkedIn. I was like, holy shit. What the fuck is going on? And people were asking me, how do I get this? Where do I read these articles? This is fucking dope as hell. All of that. Kind of, can you send me the magazine? And I'm like, wait, this doesn't exist. You have some real hard? Yeah for sure. Thank you.
Thank you. You know, and I had to tell people when I first Started this, I was like, this isn't real. This isn't a magazine, this is just a creative dump, a creative outlet for me. And so I realized after about the third Friday, I call it fat nugs Friday. I've been I started. Papa was like okay, that was cool. So I'm going to do it again on next Friday. Friday came posted, another one, blew up again next Friday came.
Plus it posted another one and it got such a large purse Ponce that I had a couple of cannabis media companies approach me know. Shit and they were like we would like to possibly talk to you about bringing this tin house and I was like, bringing what in-house. This doesn't fucking exist. You realize that this is this is not a real magazine yet. Now, this is only the third week that I had, you know, posted something about it.
So people weren't cool, really familiar with what it was yet and through some conversations, I ended up realizing very quickly that I needed to make this thing. NG be real because it fills an enormous Gap that we have in this industry. And that enormous Gap is something that people were telling me about and it was really something I hadn't realized it's we don't have or and I please excuse me, I don't mean to bash or belittle anyone's work in this industry at all.
I would never do that. But from what I have been told a lot of people believe and feel that they don't have a voice in this industry that being culture side of things, small farmers Equity, applicants mom-and-pop shops, women-owned businesses Legacy and traditional owned businesses. They don't have a voice in this industry. A lot of it is run by very large companies and people that can donate to politicians to control the game. Right. I think we all know that.
Yeah. So I said okay well this is perfect because my grandparents owned a farm. I came from a military family background. I've always been fucking poor always been around a plant like this is my community right? This is right fucking Community. These are the people that I connect with I smoke with, I hike with I play sports with these. This is my community. So I said, okay, let's do this and starting to build the magazine from scratch right there. And there.
So it took me probably from the time that I first posted something and I could be totally wrong. I think this was back in late March early April, the very first real digital publication of fat. Nugs magazine was released on May 6th, so, that's how quickly it came about. That's how it came about. Now, the name itself. It's sort of our our stoner vernacular, right? It's that's a fat sack. Those are fat joints, that's a pets, fat blood, those are fat nugs, that's a fat blunt, you know.
So it just kind of came naturally. There is actual there's a magazine called nugs. I knew that but there's not a magazine called fat nugs, but there is that there is now, where is he? Exactly there is now. So that's basically how it came
about guys. And, you know, some of the things that we really focus on. Obviously, what I said before is much of the culture as possible and uplifting people voices and businesses that are doing really good things in this industry and for people, and they're focused on education and Science and understanding and all of that kind of stuff. So it's trying to spread uplifting positive messages
about the plant. The people that are in this culture and really taking cannabis and Stoner culture to the rest of the world, being that bridge and Having people understand that even if you're not in the know or understand cannabis and Stoner culture or what the fuck that is when you read, what is in this magazine and the things that we release, even though they might be a little educational or scientific. There's always a personal spin to those things. It's a way that we connect.
How do you connect with people with cannabis, on a personal level? It's not science and education and I'm sorry to tell people that But are you can talk science and education to your next-door neighbor till you're blue in the fucking face. But until you say my mom was here yesterday. She 75 and smoked a joint because she has back pain, they don't know, one really gives a shit you have to be able to connect with people on a personal level. You really do storytelling is
huge. You have to have those elements when you are releasing content in cannabis, in my view because that's how we bring people in. And that's how we win over hearts and Minds, all of that positive stuff. So those are the things we focus on and we do that by being a global perspective of cannabis culture, we have Riders from all over the world. Kenya Ireland, Scotland, Bermuda, Spain, Canada. He's naming up a list of all of our where our listeners Heredia you go.
There you go. So you know, we do our best to be as inclusive as possible. You have lgbtq+ Riders, black, white, red pink, whatever fucking color you can pick. We are a part of that and we like to have it that way and we like to uplift the voices that really, we believe people should be here and in this space. Yeah.
You know, when you talk about exactly what this, the voice of the Cannabis Community, one of the things that is done so much for those people that are like sitting right on the fence. I mean, we create Our content 100% for consumers of cannabis. Not the many other ones out there. I mean, hey, I like being a starter, but I am a functional stone or just like you, like, I get shit done.
I'm a creative. I mean, just like when you're talking about creative dumps, I've got to have constant just stimulation because if I stay still, I literally start getting depressed because I have nothing to do. I'm like II can create something right now. Yeah, when you when you are talking about being able to be Publication for the Cannabis Community, it goes those for the consumers because those new people getting involved the sometimes that you know that part of their mind where they're
just like, I know. But Society, you know, the War on Drugs. We just have this interview yesterday with this awesome, professional retired, rugby player this woman out of she lives. She never went away. Yeah, but she was from Northeast and I mean, come on, just dude, like breaking down those barriers. Like I mean she was a Professional athlete using cannabis on the regular and it's so cool. Yeah, it's absolutely necessary to be able to do that these days right at.
You have to be able to break down barriers even though and I know a lot of people that have been smoking weed for a long time, sort of hate to have these conversations because it feels so uncool right but to have an ability to bring people in to the plan, Welcome them here, make them feel comfortable, you know, breakdown stigmas, or doors or anything else are any hurdles or anything else that's in the way of people. Just understanding that the plant is just a, it's just a
fucking plant. It's just like a, it's just like broccoli, it's just like a tomato. It's just like anything. You can grow. It's not going to kill you. It's never killed anyone, unless a big plant falls on you and you die out. It cold, there was the first part of me. There is the first death from Cannabis that and it's hang on, let me finish. That's because when I read it I was like the hell that's not a thing.
But it was from a lady in a joint rolling company and there was so much Keith in the air that the masks or whatever, like, it coated her lungs and she died from like, basically being suffocated but not from that. Good anymore. Anything that wasn't you? Connected. It should be regulated by the business. It's but the first like actual death from Cannabis, but it's not like, you're not. It's not from consumption. No, no, no, right. So, and that's the worry, that's the fear.
That's the, the fear-mongering that it's that's, that's the Reefer Madness part of this is if you write Sumit, oh my God, you turn into whatever. But I think we're, I think, for the most part, most of our country, in a lot of the world. You know, as individual people. We understand again, for the most part, right? Plant is not harmful smoking weed, isn't going to kill you. It's not going to turn you into anything stupid. It's not good.
You know it we mostly understand that it becomes this group thing when it's used in political ways or when it's used basically in political and in I guess law enforcement circles, right? At that When it's used the most to sort of manipulate and mindful of people. But it's only on the story. That's being told because behind the closed doors, there's tons of those officials. And police officers who are using cannabis all the fucking time. And it's, I know those people firsthand.
I know, cops firsthand, who do blow who smoke weed get fucking wasted and bust people for doing the same exact thing that they do. So, I know the I have family that, you know, are sort of in that law enforcement realm that, you know, say some stupid shit. And I think we all know that judges lawyers doctors and everyone else that you can think of down to the guy who's cutting Lawns, and digging holes and ditches on the side of the road. We're all cannabis consumers,
period. Cannabis culture, welcomes us all. But we need people to be willing to, I guess, Step Up and Scream a little louder because even though again it's not always that cool. You know for people like us who have been consuming the plant for a long time. I am assuming, by the way that at least a week or not. Oh yeah, a couple of days.
You know, it's not always fun or cool to have those conversations but they Our fucking necessary, you know, we have to be able to remind people that, you know, your next-door neighbor. Who is a judge, just got through rolling me a big fatty.
So, yeah, it's important. Well, even my mom, so we had a conversation over Sunday dinner the other day and it started by my brother and sister going, hey, you know, their dogs like eight and she's getting seizures and I just was like, you know, you should give her CPD because high-dose CBD is actually one of the biggest things that helps with Zap, electives epileptic seizures, and she was like, really and Mike.
Yeah, every and my brothers, like, dogs can take CBD, you know, my, every single mammal has an endocannabinoid system. That means that every single mammal has that system that helps their body returned to homeostasis and if they're stressed or depressed or have this pain in their it's hurting, that they're not going to return to that. And so if you give me a CD, yeah, if you can give them that CBD. I can help with these epileptic seizures, and they were like, what that's crazy.
And so I sent an out of that conversation. My mom was like, well, one of the, this family friend that we have, her son can't work. He has so many epileptic, seizures that the medications and side effects, he can't work and she was like, can you send me something on this? And I'm like, yeah, I pulled it up in like two seconds. It's produced by the Epilepsy Foundation going into Ow, CPD helps. I sent it over and I'm a if they have questions, let me know. And it's as simple as like a
basic conversation. It's not hard. No, it it's not hard to find the documentation you need these days we have 30 to 40,000 documented documented, studies articles are studies Korean the last 20, 30 years alone. Yeah, yeah. Actually so it's been one of the most studied things that we consume these days. Yeah, it's not hard to have those really simple conversations. It's always nice when you can put personal face-to-face, this is my experience with it.
Here is an article that will tell you about it. Yeah. It's it's important that we have those conversations these days. Speaking of CBD, I consume CBD on a daily basis as well. It's helped me tremendously in my life. It's taken. So I was on Oh my goodness. I was on. Let's see, Xanax for probably 10 plus years and the moment well within about I would say about four to six weeks of me, taking
a, an extremely high quality. Broad-spectrum, CBD, CBD, CBN product that I take every day, I came off of Xanax immediately it, which is something you're not supposed to do at all because it can cause seizures and all kinds of stuff. Yeah. So anecdotally CBD has CBD has really changed my life as well. That's fantastic.
It really does. I take it several times a day for the inflammation in the pain in my back because while THC is a great pain management system like it still doesn't hit those sharp pains and that That I have in the middle of my back. And so using CBD multiple times a day, it allows me to still like, hit both sides or multiple sides of that pain. Help me function on a much better level. Yeah, you just explain why it's so important to consume full
spectrum product, right? So or or even a cultivar like Harlequin where it's a one-to-one. So, you know, and that way I wouldn't have to always My DVD and regular weed together, you know. Yeah. But yeah, it's important.
I think for people to realize that CBD and other minor cannabinoids are just as important to consume and to consume them on a regular basis, you're constantly feeding your ECS to keep you from being sick and to feeling off or to have back pains or any of that kind of stuff, it's important to get on a regiment. People need to be using it on a daily basis, consuming it on a daily Basis. Yeah. Almost as like, I mean, I think about it a little bit more. Now, like we talked about it all
the time. If you get your stomach hurts, you get a headache or you got some random pain like just come out of nowhere. Achiness you smoke, the plant. It goes away. It's so incredible. When you start getting. I mean, just like you, you know, your entire life. You've tried so many different strains and I know the idea that said, you know, stranger kind of
bullshit. But at the same time, it's a way for us to identify I certain things to us as individuals going, because as much as we would like it to be just like, yeah, it's awesome. It's a great plant. We're going back in time now. Now with all these different strains, we actually started thinking about the terpenes and and what are the cannabinoids in each one that really start to be able to create what you're looking for.
So it's not necessarily one way or the other with this, when people say that strains are varieties or cultivars the names, their, don't necessarily mean anything. It's a yes and a no and it depends on what it is that you're referring to what you're talking about.
All that kind of stuff. But the most important this is what I usually tell people, regardless of the name that you have on your back or your bottle or your jar or whatever, you're consuming that day you you need to know or what is great to know is the actual profile of the cannabinoid and terpene profile. And then the way because you know, one And Mac may be completely different than another person's Macon that cannabinoid in terpene profile scale.
Right. So that Mac is this person's back, could completely put you to sleep and this one could you know make you stay up all night doing whatever it is you need to do so yeah it's all about the profile the names. Yes. They don't mean necessarily everything that we wish they did, right?
So at the same time they do mean some things so you know it's A complicated thing every once in a while the way that we talk about the planner of the refer to the plant but I think overall as long as we all kind of know that we're all talking about sort of the same thing which is the cannabinoid and terpene profile that's basically what it comes down to no matter what strain variety or cultivar you're consuming its that profile that's going to make you as a person feel particular way.
And if you know what that profile is you can start to hone in On those particular varieties that tend to lean that way, right? And then you can hone in on those and really get your profile that you're looking for over and over again. So on find the cultivar that matches, what it is you're looking for because like you said from cultivar to cultivar, it's not necessarily the same, it's very similar but you might have different terpenes and
cannabinoids that are present. Yeah. Just depending on the grow and it's like looking at the medicine part 2. I mean it. It is, it's a medicine. Wouldn't it be wonderful for most people who consider you like Western medicine pills, all those things? Like that's what I have to take because that's what I've been told for years but where you can
match each of these. I mean just like you're talking with the full profile of the plant, can be able to match your ECS and figuring that out land along the way. It's like it's designer Pharmaceuticals if you will. Yeah. And which is the pharmaceutical company fucking hates because you can actually grow your own medicine in your house to the Zack specifications right here. If you know what that is you can you can grow it that way.
It's a really cool thing to be a part of and to steer this plant kind of develop and grow as much as it has over the past few years I guess since it became. What is about 2014? I think Colorado was the the full legalization buddy. Come on, get off me, probably sorry, that that's awesome. Then over the years because with how long you've been using cannabis since. I mean I think you had said your first use was around nine. Ten years old with the very first time you're handed a joint.
Yeah, so I think the first time that I really smoked was probably 12 years old. The first time that I was handed a joint as a kid and my brother is six years older than I am. So of course, when he's in high school, he would have parties. I can remember this particular instance, I was getting passed
up the stairs. My parents were out of town that I was getting passed up the stairs along with my buddy, we had just come home from the skating rink, you know, back in st. Louis, we did the whole skating ring thing and And so crowded, as they're passing me up the stairs there, like here, kid hit this, you know, and I'm like,
oh, what the hell is this? I don't think I ever really smoke it at 9 years old, but I know at 12 years old, I did whether it did anything to me, I don't think so, but that's sort of how we'd works, right? Very first time start to smoke. You're like, I don't know if I'm up, I'll know if this does anything and sometimes it doesn't do anything and it takes your ECS a minute to kind of Kick in, you know, sometimes you need it two or three times for your ECS to realize.
Oh, okay. This is the fuel that I'm supposed to be using. And then, so you get that those feelings and, and get the medicated part that you're supposed to get. So, I have seen the different ways that people consume or I guess the The View on consumption change since being a little kid. Really kind of in a few different ways and some weird ways that I never thought I would. So when I was young, it was very normal, right? It was everywhere for me, it was not.
It was not it. Yeah, it was not a problem because of my family, my, you know, my military background family, and being sort of, I guess poorer in st. Louis the city that, you know, we were just smokers. That's what we did not. I say we not me. I was a kid, but it, my family. And so it was always normalized and kind of not a big deal. Then as you get into the high school years, you're fed the, you know, dare bullshit, and all of that stuff. So, obviously, the look on
consumption is a lot different. From the time I was up until I was 11 years old, and then from 11 to 16, it was like, oh my God, it's the devil's lettuce, right? That's kind of, when they start pumping you. All of that shit or at least that's when I realized it and maybe it was because I moved from st. Louis down to Atlanta, Georgia. And maybe that was sort of much more of the focus here in the deeper. South was that dare program in all of that crap? Yeah. Same here.
The Utah. Very much pushing even into. Yes, the 90s. And yeah, yeah, no doubt and Utah. I'm surprised you guys could do anything in Utah. You know, they have shackles around their legs, you just can't see him right now, you know what, it's a big surprise for most people they come here. Like, oh, it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be just, it's like, yeah, not everybody is wearing Bonnets and blue dresses. Yeah, exactly. Mine's in the closet. That's like weekend.
It's a hell. Yeah, for real. So, in a dude, it's not much different than the South here there. People think when you come here it's you know, the KKK is running around still. The I still get those kind of like Are still half ass backwards but teeth or no teeth kind of like no we're all from some Atlanta is is sort of the New York of the South, it that it's where the it's the Melting Pot of melting, pot of the South, you know, everybody is from everywhere.
So anyway, I saw it, you know, normalized as a very young child and then in high school, it kind of went away until I was about six. 18 or 17 years old and, of course, you're sneaking around with your friends and stuff, but it's still very much quiet. You don't know if your parents are smoking, you don't know if your parents friends are smoking for the most part, you know what I mean? So it was hidden.
And then of course, in college in the 90s, I went to school in 93. That's when it really blew up where we had much more of the cultures in your face, with hip-hop coming on board and Snoop Dogg, and yeah, We had to park Dr. Dre all we're talking about like smoking weed. Yeah. Lutely Wu-Tang.
You know? So Outcast and you so you had hip-hop sort of, really push the culture forward in the 90s I believe and that kind of made this the snowball start I think, is how it really began in the 90s. I think Hip-hop kind of pushed us forward as far as As consumption and normalizing it more and more as sort of went. So really it kind of went from our Farmers to our hippie culture to, you know, more or less hip hop culture and that
pushed us forward. And really since the 2000s, I think you've seen a really large concerted effort from a lot of different, you know, special groups to help cannabis, you know, further, help push it into And Norms of consumption. So, you know that it's been a rollercoaster.
So to speak. As far as the differences from really, from decade to decade when it comes to consumption and it's, we're now in a place where I see, you know, super conservative people here in this state where it's not legal. By the way, we don't have legal cannabis in Georgia, it is decriminalized in the city where I live Atlanta But we have extremely conservative, people who are consuming, they do it much more, discreetly wouldn't be one to sit here and smoke a
joint with me, right? Like I have been with you all, but they would be one that maybe after their work. They go to the kitchen, they grab their gummy, or they grab their, their beverage, or their beverage enhancer or whatever, and it's one of those things and that's another thing. It's my consumption. The middle of the modalities over the last few years have changed significantly for me.
So even though I smoke a lot still, I'm now at a place where I have access to water soluble THC drops basically and really it's more of a full-spectrum product than that, but that's kind of what it is. Yeah, so I'm able to make any drink water. A tea liquor beer, I don't give a shit what and to infuse dude into an infused, exactly into an infused cannabis, drink. Excuse me, which is it's sort of game changing because I don't necessarily need to walk around
or take a break from whatever. I'm doing to go smoke somewhere. If in fact, I have to do that if I'm in a place where I can't consume. Yeah, I just have a very discreet bottle where I'm like, okay, all you guys are out here drinking Don't really want any liquor today. So I'm gonna have this water and I'm going to infuse it myself. So it changes the game a little bit and so my modalities have
changed a little bit. You know, I'm always still a smoker so bong, rips and joints and stuff like that kind of please my heart. It's hard. Not to love that method of like combustion and flower. Like I agree. It's hard to piece the cleanest flavor, man. I mean, it's I mean, we talk about all the time. You know, like if you if you puff on carts regularly and there's a ceiling you hit, ya can't go past it. It's like nope, it's like a little governor on your engine filling.
Yeah, dude, I mean it's awesome. It's close, but not its to maintain right to maintain travel and it's it's for the convenience of it. So they're sitting at a bar or whatever, you can rip your fuckin pain and no one gives a shit. You sure as hell, can't light up a joint but no one really cares. If you have a pen, they I don't know if it's what it is. Anyway, you know, they don't know if it's tobacco or THC or whatever the hell it is.
So that's more of what pens do for me, where cartridges do for me. So, I tend to not, I don't have a single cartridge. I haven't had a cartridge in probably six months in this house. That's also most of mostly, what I do is consume flower period and then I have my drops for my drinks. That's kind of what A I do it was gonna ask you about that what's the what's the name of the product? And where do you mean, you get it over there locally or know?
So I have a buddy, let's just say that he we you might know him you might be connected to his name's Blake, Vila, he is on LinkedIn. Quick liquids is the company. This with they make quick drops. I met him in person for the first. I've been connected to him for probably about a year or so maybe a little more. I met him for the first, First time at MJ Biz super fucking rad, dude, really supportive? He's really nice. What Villa VI L LA. I'm going to save that for later. Cool, very cool.
Dude. And we are currently working with him to figure out some possible business opportunities with his product because it's fucking bad-ass. You guys, it kicks in and it, and I mean, kicks in, within like, 10 minutes. It's or so that's bent. Yeah, that's fast. It's not like it's not a regular cannabis beverage it's where you're waiting.
Twenty Thirty you know the dosing is it / like is it enough like a 30 ml dropper bottle or is though it's in it here I'll grab the container for you real quick. Or is it more like a powder? Yeah, I've seen those okay as like I've seen some really cool sugars and that I've actually made infused sugar before. Yeah, and that's really easy to do and I actually have a thing of infused sugar this point.
So what it is? This water soluble they have the tech that makes this stuff and when I say water-soluble I mean it I mean you can stir it into anything, it's fantastic and it's this is the bottle itself. Oh yeah, that's not that big. So, no, it's about a to wait about two ounces or so, okay. And and the dropper itself, you can control the amount of drops its, you know, build in dropper. It's there's 1,000 milligrams of THC in this little tiny bottle 1,000.
That's fantastic. So he'll need is a drink doing her drop. One drop is one milligram, okay, to so it's fantastic. It's phenomenal, it's perfect. What am I? Anchor dosing to for people who want to get like exact dosing, dude. It's perfect for medication like medical application. It's perfect for people in the hospital. It's perfect for people in an old folks home or whatever you call those things these days. I'm sorry if this is living centers. I have Assisted Living. Yep. Absolutely.
It, this is something you can take with you anywhere have an anything. It's in I said it kicks in, within 10 to 15 minutes at the most, dude, it is in its strong. So I've been sort of dosing myself, so to speak for the past since I've had it for the past couple of weeks to really get a gauge on the product test the product out. Make sure it's exactly what I want it to be and what it should be. And what it says it is and it is man. It's it's pretty badass.
I'm have been impressed with it to be honest with you and then like we'll have that in the show notes will put that link for that. Awesome. Have you ever have you ever seen the Heavy Hitters tincture? No. No. What is that? So that's this is 1000 mg teacher, looks like liquor. Okay, and it's really, really good. I know you can't see inside the bottle or anything but looks like it's like a liquor bottle. It's who doesn't so Kick-Ass. Good, it smells amazing.
It tastes amazing. It has like a citrusy earthy. Flavored. Oh wow, send us the link will throw that, it's dope. So, Heavy Hitters is what it's called, they're on their archive, they're everywhere, they're everywhere. They're all Linked In, they're on Instagram, they're all. They're all over the place and then around for a minute from what I've been told. So Blake was nice enough to I've been looking for a Heavy Hitters bottle for a while. Blake was nice enough to give me
one as well. So that was really cool of him. But from what I've been told because California is changing some of their laws for the new year. This will no longer be available. I'm not quite sure why. I don't know if it's because of the amount of THC, the thousand milligrams or whatever, the in such a sized bottle, or whatever the case may be. I don't know what it is, what those new regs are that are making this particular. This specific bottle.
I believe, go away, but that's what I've been told. I could be wrong about that, but that's what I've been told. So if you can get your hands on a heavy, otters bottle, get it as soon as possible. Yeah. Dad, those are. Okay, so now we got a. So what's some of the coolest things that you've seen lately within? Not only just the products, but in maybe even the cultivar area. Hmm. So those are great question. That's a great question. And I have a couple of answers actually.
So that's really cool Shango, I went to Shango in Phoenix. If you aren't familiar with Shango, they are a fully integrated company. If they would be an MS. Oh really? They have operations in five states. I believe they are growing some things that I've never in my life thought were possible. The smell the nose on some of the cultivars that they are currently growing insane. No, not insane. Papaya, insane plantain, Oh, stuck.
I stuck my head in a bag of five pound bag of this stuff to get a good whiff of it when I was there and I've never smelled something that made my mouth water like that, and it was this really earthy edible. It make me want to like, pick it up and eat it. Kind of, it wasn't really citrusy. It's hard to put my it's hard to put words to what I was experiencing but that I think it's called Same plantain. They also have something called modified banana which I had never seen before, which was
really cool. Extremely flavorful really bright notes, does it smell a lot like bananas not necessarily again it's more of that earthy have this earthy thing stuck in my head since I went there last was it last week of the week before? So not Well, I tell you what did smell like bananas so I lie. Oh they were they were making live rosin bag. Fuck what they were making live rosin with it and delicious. I was like holy it was so concentrated. Yeah. Oh dude the Turks were so concentrated.
It was sick. So those are a couple of cool cultivars that I've run into and I'm actually smoking one along with this Georgia pie that came from them called Sour garlic, cookies. And again, it was I keep it and I think that were this aligned with in GMO somehow. I honestly don't know exactly the lineage of it, to be honest with you. That would be one for Daniel
Crawford to answer. I don't know if you know who Daniel Crawford is. So he's one of the three Good Buds. So I also run a company, our own a company called three good buds on the CEO of Daniel. Crawford has to see 00. And Aaron Wiese is the CMO and that's what we were doing in. Phoenix was we went down there as a company to tour Shango and you know talk business and stuff like that. So that's cool.
Yeah, three Good. Buds is like seems like a very good cannabis Community. Tell us a little bit more kind of about that. Yeah, absolutely. That's exactly what it is. So you nailed it. It's we've built this company as a community. First, it was too. B, a space for people to look. All of us have been sort of isolated for over the past few years, right things changed. Let's just be honest, it's not any secret and we also have a lot of not so much outgoing people, introverted folks, right?
Introverted people need to have a space to connect with people in ways that sometimes are More comfortable for them. So really the company came about back in May of this year because May is mental, May is mental health month and we thought I thought of the saying, sesh with friends, it's important because I was checking up on some of my friends.
I was talking to a couple of friends that were going through some hard times and it all kind of coincided and I was like, you know, I need to, I need to go see my friends. I need to go check up on my friends and Messing with my friends. It's important. Kind of kind of came about so we created three Good Buds because the three of us got on the initial platform together to smoke. So we were smoking together. We were creating a small community was just three of us
session together. He's in one of them's in Arizona, the other ones in in Virginia and I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. So we connected that way and we were like, well, why don't we just do this? And we created three, goodbye. Odds since then it sounds kind
of ridiculous. Since then we've created a community and hold these live sessions where tons of people come on they smoke with us. We introduced really cool people to them that are doing cool things in the industry like Kristen Yoder talked about for blood. Yeah, we had David Tran on talk about what he was doing with Fairchild. We always have so to really bring value to just your normal average.
Everyday consumer, like you and I or a person in the industry, excuse me, that might be looking for a job or something new to do trying to grow their Network or connections or whatever. We always have special guests, that list will always contain recruiters because recruiters having a recruiter that you can see face to face while you're smoking and you're comfortable, right. Breaks down the barrier.
Yeah, it breaks down, those barriers, that that a lot of us when we're looking for work, or were looking for someone to help us find work, or our next gig or whatever. When you see that person on the other side of your screen and everybody around them as fucking smoking, we're talking cannabis and it creates this Comfort level for a job Seeker. That just doesn't exist anywhere else and I thought dude that is so fucking important. Let's continue to do that so we
continue to do that. As it evolved. We've created a community where people are very uplifting trusting and helpful and supportive of each other. We have a channel. We have a couple of channels on telegram, where people come in. We share videos photos, talk back and forth. Tell everybody, good morning. Say what's up? We have a job channel on telegram as well, where we shared jobs, pretty much every single day, so people have joined that telegram channel so
they can see all sorts of jobs. Abs from all kinds of different companies within the industry, and it's us kind of stealing as much as we can from online and posting it in one place. And being like, here you go check this fucking job. Out your New York, here's five right here. So doing trying to help bring some help and bring value to the community. So, to the Cannabis community.
So that's what we did with three Good Buds and in doing so, we have now created partners that have brought us in and they are trusting Us to help build out training. SOS basically. So we're going into, we've partnered up with a company called black thumb, they're out of Australia. They are doing some really cool stuff with their software for both grow and post-production and getting it in a way that is in one place, it can do everything you need track. Everything that needs to be
tracked. It's really a sort of this one. Stop shop for what is it from like seed to sale or is it? Bingo. Okay, so it's basically your one-stop-shop for everything that you're growing. Your production, your post production needs, so they've partnered with us or we partnered with them to be their
training arm. Here in the US, there's also another company that's joining them called weaves there in New Mexico, but basically three Good Buds is going to be doing most of the us and we're going to be training grow and post-production businesses companies. To use this software so they can improve what it is that they're doing. So it's developed three. Good Buzz has developed because we came in here with the idea to help period. We just wanted to fucking help.
I just wanted to smoke with cool people. Connect with cool people and just talk about cannabis and it's developed into something to where we now get your introduce people to really cool stuff that's going on in the industry like Bud for blood like Fairchild. There's other things that are going on as well. So, So it's it's been a really cool opportunity to build with those two and it's turning into something much more than I
thought. I thought it would and becoming sort of referral partners, and actual training arms for a companies because we have the understanding of cannabis Daniel working with Shango. There a fully integrated, he's in that facility all day long. Understands its needs where it has its Pain points and having him sort of being able to plug in the software and completely understand how it can help is
everything. So you know we're going to be able to make a big difference in this industry by helping with that portion with some technology and stock lower portions. So we're pretty excited to do that, man. That's way. Cool. That's how often do you do the three? Good Buds, smoke sessions, once a month. We did. Once our last one was, at MJ B. Is it was relatively huge. Yeah. Yeah.
It was actually really cool. We had a ton of people show up, it ended up being all over LinkedIn and all over social media and it was a really big kind of like family get-together to be honest with you guys. I just realized it's 4:00 and I have a hard stop. You're a good man good. We is there anywhere that you need or any where people can find your stuff anywhere? That you want to plug real fast?
Yeah, absolutely. So of course, Dustin Hawksworth on LinkedIn, fat, nugs Magazine on LinkedIn. Fat mugs. Mag.com is our website. Instagram is, is fat underscore, nugs underscore mag. So, yeah, Instagram that'll be in the show notes. Awesome, definitely, appreciate it. That's pretty much, that's pretty much everywhere. And I'm I try to make myself available to as many people as possible. So feel free to reach out. You can always do DM me on LinkedIn.
I'm I kind of live there times. So yeah, I love to connect with folks. So if anybody wants to connect, I'm always open badass. Thank you so much. Dustin for joining us, everybody, again, you'll get all the show notes over there brother. Thank you for doing what you're doing. Appreciate your time and thank you guys. Y'all have a great afternoon talk as well.