I'm Brandon. And I'm. Jesse we're cannabis school having cannabis infused conversations with everyday people, cannabis companies, celebrities and your mom. Welcome to the Sash. Let. Me ask you something, when you were growing up, did your parents have a good relationship with money? No, a lot of the reasons why is my father was an immigrant, didn't speak the language, so it was kind of hard for him to get a job. He would only have like basic, you go first, you go first.
He'd have like just a lot of Labor jobs, didn't require a whole lot, janitorial jobs, things like that, while he was learning the English, but from a young age. Cut that out or you leave. It by the base, can't grab it by the tip on. That oh you have to hold the button. Or, you know, just push it once and let go, and once it turns green then it's good. There you go. And as soon as it changes from green then it's no longer heating. There you go. Nah, no worries.
But my dad, he, he would save. He would save, OK. And my mom. She's fear of not having money. She would spend well because she grew up with money. You know, her dad did really well. Her mom worked at a college. Like they never really needed anything. She grew up with her dad, like having boats and stuff like that. He was a really good sales guy, apparently, but he wasn't the nicest person. And at a young age, 18, she ran away from home and came to Utah. And that's where she met my dad.
And my dad didn't speak very much English and he was just visiting because he had served an LDS mission, which is like. He was just visiting and they met. Well, he was just checking it out because he wanted to know what what he was what's up with Utah? And then when he came here, he was just like, it's OK, you know, go back home. He was going to go back and be a lawyer. And instead he met my mom. And my mom was like, she wanted to be with him.
And so she let him know and and they got married a little after that. And then they had a miscarriage. And then they had me. But the problem was, is that we grew up in poverty. We didn't know what to do. And my dad, like they would tell him, like, just get an education and you'll climb up the ranks. And my dad. That's what was told was valuable. In what way? Yeah. It's still propagated today and I don't, I don't, I really don't agree with that, depending on what you're doing.
Yeah, and there can be value. Totally. There's a lot of I enjoyed college, I loved college. I had a great time, yeah, but my dad trying to. Stayed here instead of going to be an attorney. Yeah, he got a degree in like hotel management. There was actually a degree, Yeah, when UVU was UVSC, That's funny, when it was just that tiny little building. My dad went there too, yeah. And my dad went there and got this degree, this completely, utterly worthless degree.
But back then being a hotel manager was it meant something. It was a position, it was a, it was a career. And it was just disheartening because my dad never made a lot of money, but he never went without because my dad would work like two or three jobs because that's what he did. He learned that from a very young age. He got kicked out of of school, elementary school, because he was messing around and down there, school is a privilege, not a right. And he didn't.
So they just kicked him out, send him home. And then his mom's like, well, if you're not going to school, you're working, so go get a job. So we got a job at like 11 or 12. That's crazy. And then worked, he, he got all of his clothes tailored, made to him. He really liked clothes. And that's all he did. He'd do clothes, go hang out with his friends, get in trouble, go right around on the
subway. Like after, after that, like my dad just never made any money and my mom was always home with us. So we really didn't make any money. And then my mom got a job, my dad got a job. And then they started to do kind of better, but they never really had any money until my grandfather died, left my mom everything. Yeah. Got the money. They build a house, buy a bunch of shit. My mom gets a great job with a tech company at the time, which was one of the few that are around here.
Novell. Yeah. And she was doing really good there in the IT department. Oh, it was massive. Novell was a massive company. Oh yeah. I mean it still is a good size, but like not in. Nowhere near what it used. To tech companies now. Right. But. And so she she had was starting to make like real money, like even back then in the 90s, like my mom was making probably I don't, I'm not sure, but it was quite a bit more than what people make today, right?
Both my parents are making money and yet I never saw them do really well with it. They had a four O 1K and all that other stuff, but they never really taught us how to be smart with money. And I'm kind of glad because I never found value in money even as a kid, other than it gets me things. But it really inherently is not valuable. And I'd learned early on because I grew up poor, that my friends were more important than the
things that I own. They didn't judge me because I didn't have like a completely put together Optimus Prime that's not missing its left hand, right? Or all the same cool toys and things that they had, right? And yeah, that doesn't matter. And yours was similar in a way, but it was like more forced on like, Nope, we're staying in this budget. This is what we have. We I never knew we had any money.
So when we had we didn't take my first trip out of the state till I was 14. And then we took a road trip and we drove down to Tijuana and then up into California. And that was the first time I had seen the beach. That was the first time I had left the state. We went, that was the first time I'd left the country. So we went down to Mexico and that was the very first time
that we had taken any trip. And it was always just different because, you know, we grew up. I grew up in the same neighborhood with all the kids at school and that a buddy he his family every year they would go to Disneyland and he'd gone to Hawaii like 7 times and it was 6th grade and my dad had finally been doing his own business.
You know, cuz he, when I was young, he worked at Stouffer's like he was on a assembly line and that he was a manager there and then he helped his dad do construction and build apartment complexes and homes and things. And then after Stouffer's, he was a mailman. Like he was a mailman for years.
And it wasn't until he, they thought that he was actually like doing something wrong because he was working and getting his route that was like double other people's route done way sooner than these other people are getting done just with their normal route. And they end up having him. He was paid for however long while they had other people try
and do his routes. And it took two people to do his route that he was doing on his own because he was just, he's a hard worker and he would always go, go, go. But we never, I never grew up thinking we had money, you know, we didn't have nice cars. We didn't have like fancy clothes. We lived in a in a decent neighborhood, you know, but it wasn't the nicest home in the neighborhood. Like it was just, we were
normal, I thought. But then it was like we didn't have all of the same foods, all the same snacks, all the things. My mom ground flour, she grind weed up to make flour and would hand make bread every week. Like every meal was basically homemade because it's cheaper. And you know, my parents didn't go out a lot because that cost. We didn't go out because of that cost. You know, everything was done in a very frugal way. You know what we bought?
My mom would buy us school shoes that were three like they were big and she'd be like cool, this is 2 years of school shoes now. Like, you know, she was just so frugal because her parents were incredibly frugal. Oh. Yeah. And so my dad, his side, I guess, my grand, my grandpa on my dad's side, he worked his ass off. He worked really hard and everything. Like he tried to build something up and it would get ripped out from under them. Like they lost millions of dollars upon millions of
dollars. And that was back then. And hearing their struggle and their story, it's just, it's crazy. But I understand, like my dad's drive and need to make money and work really hard because that's how he knew. And seeing his dad work really hard, like, even through everything, it was like, yeah, they were able to do stuff. But my dad, I've learned more as I've gotten older because I've connected more with my dad.
And we've had real conversations about what his childhood was like, what his dad was actually like. Because the grandpa I knew was, you know, Grumpy didn't want us around. You know, it was like, I already saw you this week or I saw you last week. Like, you know, very different. But his side, like I feel like they always in my eyes, it seemed like they had money, seemed like they were super well to do because, you know, they lived in this home by the river, they had a pool.
They, you know, had a big boat and stuff. But I didn't know any of the things that actually went on in their life. My mom, when we started earning money, it was like, Hey, you get 10% goes to God because you pay tithing and then 50% goes to savings. She didn't teach us what that was for what anything did. It was just like, no, you just save it because it like her parents, she was afraid of not having money. So she saved and saved and saved and saved.
She was really smart. I learned she paid off their first house in 10 years. Like that's a big feat. But I, you know, they never really passed that understanding down to me. And then as I've gotten older and I've done more study and research on things on my own and, and businesses and trusts and just like the entity structure and how taxes and like all of that forms and flows. It's, it's been interesting because I've learned cool.
Well, my parents have trusts and business like all these things set up that they never taught me, all of these values that really could have benefited me, especially in so much I've done in life or wanted to do in life or could have done, you know, So it's just looking at our understanding of money, our relationship with money, our understanding of how to budget even, you know, and. Well, staying within a parameter, I like the the budgeting like I've tried to do
budgets. It never works for me. And it's not that I spend money on frivolous things, like I, I rarely will spend money on myself. I don't care about it. I really don't care about it. I I just get it because I know I need it in order for me to be able to survive in this world. Because it could be like fucking bottle caps tomorrow. And then I'll be like, yeah, I
just need bottle caps. Like, because that's going to be able to unless I'm living off the land on my own, which will take a long time to be able to accomplish that. So I'll still need money for anyways to be able to get goods until I'm self sustainable because it's not instantaneous. No, but even that I think about it and it's like it would be a fantastic to be self sustainable, self reliant, but what does that look like? And and my thing I'm like the
biggest thing is food. Like it's great. Yeah, I can you know, I can do so many things, but I still use rice. I don't, I don't know how to grow rice. I don't want to try and learn or have rice fields to do that. You know, same with like certain things that I'm like, all right, meat sparingly. If you're doing that, maybe you go hunt or maybe you have a cow or two. Like there's smart ways to do that. But there's other things like, OK, well, all of the conveniences and things in life.
Well, maybe you're not getting chocolate then, because if you're self reliant and are you growing your own cocoa beans like your own cow? Like because I imagine that's climate specific maybe or region specific or even just, but I don't know. I've not looked into that. Could I move out to 100%? Well, I still need Internet for things because I have to upload the show.
I have to, you know, there's things that require data, you know, specific things that I'm like, all right, well, how would I incorporate or do these things? And yeah, there's ways to navigate that now, thankfully, but it does, it does require money in order to do a lot of that stuff. Like you said, budgeting. I've never actually sat down and budgeted out. See, my wife does, though. My wife is very good at it.
And that's kind of what I was was wanting to, you know, when you brought the subject, I was like, oh, you know, this is a perspective that I've learned because as we all have different behaviors, we also do things differently and should not be wanting to learn something else. If you think back like a long time ago where they used to make swords, that blacksmith didn't also make pottery. And that pottery maybe if you didn't do black in his like, yeah, hobby time, but I don't know. How?
I don't think they had hobbies. You know, because this, that was their life and that's what they did. But it's they were the best at it. Like when you'd get like when. Oh, yeah. You know, the only thing I really know about, like, a blacksmith, like in anything else, is going to be from fantasy. Right? Yeah. Games and that, yeah, it's like, oh, it's the blacksmith, go there. But then watching a blacksmith actually work like to use it.
Like back then you put in countless amount of time into doing this. This is what you did day in and day out and you provided this really great service and then you were able to start deciding what you what they do and then they consider you more valuable, the more artistry you could put into. It because it's a skill. Yeah. How many of us have lost skills? Well, through technology. Let's talk about that like.
100%. How many of them are, you know, like, I know how to do quite a bit of mechanic work now on my own, and it's hilarious how many people I meet that don't even know how to be like. How to change a tire? How to even? Put oil in their car. Yeah, how to? That's a little surprising. Right. And it's just kind of like, wow.
But all the things that I know how to do now, I know my kids don't know how to do. And so one of the things like a great way you talked about it already, a great way to be able to start finding ways to cut costs, to start planning out these meals and seeing what you can actually create with very little. Now, I was fortunate enough to grow up poor during the 80s and 90s. So that was awesome because I learned that I don't have to have the best things in order for me to be happy.
And a matter of fact, the bless that we had, I wasn't as gluttonous. Now I'm not gluttonous at all. Need to truly be happy. You don't need a lot. No. We just live in the world of desires and wants that it's like, totally, But I'm used to having what I want. It's like that friend I was telling you about, you know, where they really wanted to be making a certain amount of money that they were making before. Yeah, but that was then, This is now.
And the amount that they asked for was really high. And they were like, yeah, that's high. Yeah, I don't know if we could do that, but all right. And it, it just turned in to be, it didn't work out. And it's these expectations we have. So looking at things, you know, and it's, it's not necessarily cutting everything out, right? So like. Not everything. Costco is a great resource. Oh yeah. You know, however you feel about
big corporations, all that. It's a great resource, especially when you're on a budget because then you can be able to find the things like big ass bags of rice, which used to be super cheap. Now it's like what, 27 dollars? I just bought one at Costco the other day. It's like Jasmine rice was like 20 I think. Sushi rice is usually 18, brown rice is about 12, so it's not too bad. I usually eat sushi rice it. Is more than it used to be. Yeah, it used to be like 12
bucks for, yeah, 1213 bucks. Yeah, I was like, cool. But it is just ways to look at and go, do I need like we used to have 3-4 different streaming services and it was like, we don't, we don't need these. We don't actually use. Yeah, many of them. I'm at the point now with Netflix where I just want to cancel that because I don't watch it ever. Yeah, randomly.
Will I watch it? But it goes, I feel like it goes in that way and you, you get one because there's some new show or new shows that you're like, I want to watch that. So you get it and you watch the shows and it's like, all right, well, I, I could be good now. And then honestly, I think that
would be fine. You know, it's like every few months you get it for a couple months and then you just stop using it for a few months because there's nothing good out and you've watched what you've watched and why keep spending the money on it just because it's like you could? Well, the streaming services are doing exactly what they used to do before. I mean, they just don't provide
as much value anymore. Like, you know, all the shows that you can see there, you could see pretty much anywhere now. And because they don't have a tight. And it just it they they become HBO. You remember HBO back in the day? Yeah. Like you get up for one month and you're like all these movies are great, and then you saw all the movies and they keep replaying that movie. You're not doing any new movies.
We've already seen them. So then it's like, all right, I don't need to keep paying for that. It's and it's. Expensive as fuck now dude. Yeah, well, Even so, like PSN, we play online and that's gone up this year. So now it's. Like $82.00 with tax 8585. Mine just renewed and I was like what the hell so. Yeah, I was pretty frustrated. Mine renewed on its own too. I was like damn.
It, I was at dinner with my family and I was talking to my brothers about it and like it's just, I feel like it's not that valuable anymore. And it sucks because back in the day we could play for free and the games, it didn't need updates and stuff. When they developed it, it was on a disk. You put it in your thing and it worked and you played it. That was it, and it was like there wasn't all this added shit. Yeah, you know why though, right? Because that's how you make money.
Yeah, this. I mean, they got corporatized. Yeah. That the people who are making the decisions to make games now, like, and even that too, like thinking about video games, is it, is it more of a hobby or is it something that you need? And a lot of times we'll say we need that, but we don't. And that's why I don't feel like I have a problem with video games. I enjoy them, but they don't. They don't need to be on my list
of things I get done today. Oh no, and there's there's quite a few days I don't have it ever on the list at all. So they can be fun and there's moments that I really enjoy. I love when we played a game, like play games together.
You know, that's a lot of fun. Every once in a while I can really get into a game, but for the most part, like it's not my like, hey, I need to do this kind of like we talked before, finding enjoyment in life, like what it is you're doing in life that you're not needing to get pulled off because like, hey, today was work was hard. Isn't work normally hard? What's the difference between that and every other day at work? Is it any different?
Or is this just now the coping mechanism or the thing that we have given ourselves as like this is how we're choosing to decompress, you know, And and that's that's fine. Everyone has their, their coping mechanism, their vice, their whatever makes them happy or whatever helps clear their mind At the end of the day, for everyone that's different. Sometimes what people need and, and everyone's hobbies are different. So for some people it might be a story and they're really into stories.
And so for them it's like, like I read a book and sometimes they do, or sometimes they play a fantasy game and get really into this story. You know, maybe to them that is that same thing, because don't yuck someone's yams. Yeah, well, I mean, and I want to go back to what you'd said before too about PSM, because, you know, thinking about being able to save money. 8085, is it 85? You said? Yeah, $85 for that one.
But if you think about it like that's where I, I see the value in it is that, well, every month I'm going to get three games and I also get to be able to play online and, and I get it now because of so many people being on the servers. They have to be able to support. It and it takes a ton like you know, you ever play game where it's failing is mean that they didn't prepare that because they just start failing. There's just not enough space. There's not enough memory,
there's not enough. RAM or they get a lot of new player influx and that causes server overload because they're not meant to support that many because they never expected that many. No so, and they're big. Power draw, There's some sorts of stuff, yeah. But it's. And it's just like everything with that. So the whole point of that tangent was I gone to dinner and was talking to my brothers about it. And Curtis buys every game he pays for the highest level of PSN.
That's $185. Yeah, it's got like tons of free games and weird shit. Doesn't play a single one. No, he doesn't even play his PlayStation. Wife doesn't play. The only one is his like 8 year old son. That's the only one. And he pays for that every month. And then he was like, oh, and I have two Xboxes that aren't even plugged in. I don't think they've been plugged in in a year. And he still pays for the
monthly Xbox pass as well. And I'm like, you're literally just throwing money out the window. He's a digital hoarder. Yes, 100%. He's a digital hoarder, like he gets everything, like subscriptions and all sorts of stuff. Like you don't, you don't play any of these. No, my, my other brother was like, oh, this game's coming out or this one, Curtis is like, Oh yeah, I'll probably get that. And times like you won't ever play it though so. Yeah, he's, he's compulsive with it.
Like even when when I was younger and I was like a rock Mason. Yeah. And I lived all the way up in the mountains and Curtis and I would play like Gran Turismo online on our PS threes. That's funny. And yeah, it was so bad. I had like Blue Net and it was so we paid for. Like the top one? $120.00 a month and I'm getting like a total of like 500 Meg a month of download I could get.
Oh, limited per month. Limited per month and it sucked and it was really frustrating, but at the time it wasn't like now now it would be beyond frustrating. You couldn't do anything. Yeah, you. And that's why I don't find value in living all the way out there because I I do things there now if it was forced to hey, that's a different thing. But yeah, dude, I I feel that way about everything. I'm just like thinking like what? What am I doing right now to try
and be able to go look? I don't need that and I can find enjoyment somewhere else. Sometimes it's not even I don't need that. Sometimes it's even looking at it and going how can I adjust this? Like for me I don't drink tons of coffee but I do have a cup everyday and I found that. Ordering bulk and roasting your
own. Ended up being cheaper and I save money doing that and I'd end up finding out that that is such better coffee anyway than anything I can get from the store and Bennett. Now Bennett text me this morning. I was going to text him the other day and see if he had found any better espresso beans. Emily was looking for some to see if she could find some local because every bean that we've tried since I started roasting. It just doesn't. Taste as good, doesn't it?
Tastes burnt. It tastes like grow. It doesn't taste. Well, they do them in such large batches, it's really hard to be able to temperature control and. So did you ever have Highlander grog down? At one of my favorites, yeah. Used to be 1 of mine I thought too. But what? What happened? What changed it? Well, it has hazelnut notes. Yeah. All I could taste and smell was hazelnut. Yeah, since. Since roasting mine, that is it. It literally just Emily has some inside and we tried it.
That was the first cup of coffee that I have. I took like 2-3 sips and I was like I I can't, I can't drink this. I have drank Starbucks coffee, which I think is gross and I hate. I've drank McDonald's coffee and that Highlander grog through a French press, just black, nothing in it. I couldn't drink. It was like, this is super gross. The hazelnut tasted artificial. It tasted guaranteed. There was artificial hazelnut flavouring in there, and I'm like you.
Ever touched the beans? They're almost sticky so they put shit in that. Yeah, so I, I just, and I thought about it and I was like, man, I swear I used to love Highlander Croc. I thought years ago that it was a good coffee. I I could have sworn. So I don't know if they changed. Probably because you were drinking a lot more than and so. Well, in different coffees I wasn't as particular on the bean.
I was still getting beans and grinding them, but it wasn't until I went to Sprouts that they had better beans. And then after that I didn't get any beans from anywhere else because I never met except for like farmers markets. I get specialty beans from ones, but I find that those are like $20 a pound, $20.00 for half a pound. Yeah, it's used sparingly. And then the, and then the roast is hit or miss. It's like they could be as good
as the one it sprouts. They could be just as like Highlander grog or something else. And then I'm spending $20 on the pound. And so yeah, Bennett this morning text me because he's going to get into roasting his own. Oh, nice. So he asked about a roaster. I sent him the one that I get. And then he was saying that
Amazon offers green beans. And I was like, Oh no, I sent him the place that I go to because everywhere that I had read, I went to Reddit forums, I went to other places, everywhere that I was reading, all the roasters who are roasting is like, no, you like home roasting another. I go here like Sweet Maria's has way better beans and I have. Not wanting to go back. I can't it is like it is so hard to enjoy any other coffee because they just they don't
taste anywhere near the same. I taste like the sourness, the burntness, all the other like defects. Basically it tastes like with their coffee and it just turned me into like quite the snob with it. No, dude, you know what you like. You know it's a that's a way. But that's a great way to be able to save money, get lots of flavor, lots of taste, enjoy your coffee. So invest into like a coffee roaster. What's a coffee roaster going to go for? That depends on how much you do.
Like there's one that's about 200 bucks. You could get one like that. There's another one. The one I have honestly was like 75 bucks from Sweet Marie's and that's a great way to start. And if you just, it does maybe 1/3, 1/5 of a pound at a time. So it's not very, they're really small roasts. Yeah, but that's kind of good though, because it keeps your. Well, then you can really play with it and adjust. So you go, hey, this one I did exactly this time, this time like do all of that.
To manipulate the flavor. And then you go, OK, this is the one I really liked or hey, this one developed really good at day 2 because usually it's like once they have 24 hours to let off things like carbon dioxide and that from it, once they Degas, that next 10 days is the best time to drink them. And so when Bennett was after I gave him my beans and he was asking where to find the others, where to find their roast dates.
And like, I've not seen anyone out here have a roast date unless you go to a farmers market or something. You might find it there like, but most of the others, you're lucky if you even if it even gets to the store in that first ten days. I'd be surprised. And doesn't take a lot of time to be able to invest into
learning how to do it, does it? No, no, I spent so on Sweet Maria's. They had a a video and then they just had this like one page blog about that's roaster, specifically their little tips and tricks, things to watch for. And then I've probably done 100 roasts at least through there now. That's cool. That's. Awesome.
It's things like that or like how you know more home cooked meals instead of like the instant shit and that because usually when you do it from scratch and make it, it ends up being cheaper. Well, I do. I mean not. Well, it depends. It really depends you. Can make an elegant extravagant meals from home. Well, it depends on how many people are there, but when you're counting by head, that's it's. Actually, a lot you think about that versus even going to Wendy's.
Oh Wendy's is insane. And you're like. I pay $6070 for my entire family. But you go to a real restaurant and you're 122 hundred 300. Bucks. Oh, I don't take my gets to those. Ones, yeah. So, you know, you do that and you can make a nice meal at home for less than that. Way less than that, yeah. Well, and even thinking about like, you know, with video games, you can go to GameStop or you can go to pawn shops.
But one thing that people could be doing, and I've seen it and I've done it myself, is going on Marketplace on Facebook and then offering up to trade games. Oh yeah, so I stopped playing this. Yeah. Anybody want to play it? Like or even seeing other ones and going, yeah, it's the same dollar value. I want to play that one just going, hey, I'd trade you for that for this game and just see because you never know unless you ask. Yeah. And that that actually works out a lot.
Plus, you make a new connection with somebody else. So instead of spending money on that one. That's why I think that the PSN is a great value add because it gives you these games. Yeah, they may not be the brand new games, but if you like gaming and you're on a budget and you can't afford the latest $85 game, then why not get that? There's a lot of gems out there. Also looking on PS4 games you can go to like stores and they're like super super cheap.
Oh yeah, go get the CD, the desk version, pop it in, go find the ones. And especially if you have like the PS5 and you're trying to do that, go find the ones that have the PS5 upgrade and you go. Get this. For disc version, let it do the upgrade and play the PS5 version. Yeah, I got the. It was super funny because you'll have both of them beside each other. Yeah. So I I traded in a bunch of my games that I had at GameStop and they gave me quite a bit and I was like, sweet, I got some
games. I did a bunch of digital downloads and then oh man, what was it? Oh yeah. And then over there I was like, I was going to get Sonic for my kid. PS4 version was like $18.00. PS Vibe version used was like 26. That's not bad. I got the PS4 one. Yeah, go over there and it says free upgrade. Yep. So I save a bunch of money by being able to. I think it's dumb. A lot of games do a visual upgrade like Ghost Recon. We we played that for a while.
Now we're deep into No Man's Sky and that's super cool. I think it's I. Just like getting like elevated and going through space. Yeah, yeah. Mining and finding cool shit, trying to find a new ship. I I played that the other night and have you ever gotten a settlement before in that game? What do you mean? If you follow the missions, apparently takes you to a mission and you go to a planet and there's a settlement like a little town and that town is being attacked by robot things.
And if you save it then you can become the like the main leader of that town, build it, it can generate money overtime. You can do make decisions for the town, settle arguments like all sorts of weird shit. So you just follow the story. Yeah, so do that, but then you still can go off to other planets and see things. But it helps you continue to get way more 'cause doing that now I have like 16,000,000 in my units plus. Probably only have like one,
maybe two, maybe just a couple. 100,000 just 'cause I spent it so quickly on shit. Yeah. So I don't know, it's random side tangent there, but yeah, I think there's so much to do because, and this is something that I've, I've looked at as the years have gone past and there's been moments that have been really tough financially and I've looked at my spending and it's like, oh, I really want. Well, I don't, I don't actually need that though.
Do I just want that because that's what I'm used to? Because like, is it craving? Am I bored like, and often times I'm looking at it, I'm like even just something simple like I go to the store and I'm buying candy and I know it's stupid because I don't feel like I eat a shit ton, but most of the time that's not the best decision I could make. It's just the one that sometimes I'm choosing to make. Yeah. And that's OK.
That's your decision. 100% but sometimes if I'm trying to be more eco conscious, you know, budget friendly, that might not be the best thing either because it's always like, well, I really want this because this makes me feel good and that's why we choose to get it. And sometimes that's needed. But maybe it just depends on the budget that they're looking at. Same with like, you know, buying a bottle of whiskey.
Sometimes it's nice to have a really nice bottle of Scotch, but then other times I'm like, I don't when was the last time I actually drank a Scotch? I don't I don't need to buy a bottle right now because, you know, it's it's maybe it might be a want at some point that would be there, but do I honestly need it? It's not like it's that hard or far at some point to go to a liquor store, if that's something that is, you know, But it's not something that right
now I actually need, you know? Yeah, I don't need a whole lot. I'm I'm pretty good. I can keep pretty simple and I'll be totally fine. Like, I mean, even there was like a funny meme like what men can live off of and it's literally like a bed mattress on a box bringing on the floor, ATVA, PlayStation, a fridge and a microwave. And he's like, yeah, I'm set. Like how little? Many people more than a microwave, but yeah, 100% like that is. You can't exist on that though.
Totally you could. You could totally exist on that and many people do, but it's, it's being able to go outside of that and that's hard because you want to be able to do things. You want to be able to have a little bit more money so I can buy some really good cannabis. And you know, thinking of that like with, I mean, if you live in an area where you know, where Winco is, then that's awesome. But some people don't know that.
They don't. They're just like, oh, I wouldn't shop at Winco, but Winco is a great place to get a lot of bulk stuff, which is awesome. Also start looking at things like if you got T-Mobile, they got like the T-Mobile Tuesdays and they give like little treats and stuff like that you can go get. That's kind of cool. If you're down with that, that that's a good thing to look into.
We're like even out here they have what's called the starving students card and I think it's like 30 bucks for the year, but then you get tons of discounts. There's all sorts of free shit and, you know, discounted shit that you can get in there. And for people who are trying to live, that's a really great way to do it too. For real. You know, I, I yeah, I like that. So if you are looking like living on a budget, how do you
spend on your cannabis? Do you spend looking for like the highest quality so the experience is going to be the best so it lasts the longest and you have to use the least amount of product? Or do you go in for the, you know, bottom barrel of like, what is the cheapest product here? What am I going to get a full gram for $20? Where am I going to get, you know, whatever it is? What's my bottom that I can get? What's going to get me the most high?
And most people look at that THC percentage and go, well, if it's, you know, mid high 20s or 30s, then that's going to get me the highest. Well, and it's, it's great. I mean, if you're in a state like ours, you know, you're fairly limited on how many dispensaries or pharmacies that they are located around you. And that way it keeps the prices high because there's not enough competition.
And with that, it kind of sucks. But one of the things that we've been recently doing is instead of being able to commit to a whole, you know, 3.5 oz, right? If you're committing to an eighth, then what you should do is start looking for samplers. 1G samplers around here in Utah, they're 20 bucks. I'm sure they're even cheaper other places. Yeah, well, it depends on the strain or if you're just trying a new one, like, hey, you know, I really don't know how I feel
about this one. I don't want to invest a lot because maybe you are really particular with cannabis. There are people who are hyper particular. It's very like cannabinoid terpene grower specific, you know, that it's like, hey, this really works well with me. I had it over here and it didn't and I had this and it didn't. And that, you know, or, and maybe it's their mindset, maybe it's what's going on in their life that they just cannabis doesn't work always very well with what's going on.
Yeah. That's OK too. You know, sometimes then maybe it's just a realization of what's going on. Am I trying to numb something? Am I trying to run from something? Am I like hurting? You know what is it that is? Is it escapism? Like what, what is it that's going on? You know, and, and sometimes we all need that because the human experience is tough. I don't think it's easy for anyone. We all view someone else and we go, oh man, they've got it so good. They've got it so easy, but we
have no idea. Every like thing that goes on in their mind, everything that goes on in their life, all their personal struggles and that, you know, and I'm sure they're thinking the same thing about someone else, like, oh, they've got it so good, so easy. So this and behind closed doors, who knows what that person's struggle is? Yeah, but don't yuck someone's yums. Yeah. Oh, yuck. Not like, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I'm feeling it, dude. I believe it. It's been a. It's been a high day.
A nice combination of quite a few strains and I still think spitball here. I think the first strain of the day was my favorite one so far today. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I I really. The BlackBerry that yeah, yeah, it was really good. BlackBerry spice #7 that one was awesome. That one's like, I don't fucking care. But I was like relaxed but pretty clear headed. There was a slight haze just at the end, but like. That's cool. It was. Fantastic. I don't know. That's weird.
Yeah, man. Well, it's been a good episode. You guys give us some ideas. There's some topics you want us to go into because we struggle sometimes to come up with something. Sometimes for the sesh, like I know we'll have a million interviews and a bunch of other people on, but just like one-on-one sesh, there's so many avenues to go down and. Maybe we should just think about the conversations that we have during the week. Yeah, or sit down, get a little high and chat with chat.
Or just just get high. See what we come up with and create a whole playlist for the year. So structure.