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James Bowie Part 2: I am Not in the Habit of Backing Down

May 29, 202443 minEp. 102
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In Part 2 of the 1836 conversation with James Bowie, He will talk about the nearly unbelievable smuggling scheme he concocted with the Pirate Jean Lafitte. He’ll also explain how he sold pieces of the Louisiana purchase, even though it was not his land to sell.

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Welcome back to part two of James buoy. In the last episode, we talked about the legendary sandbar duel, but we also dispelled the myth that he was a knife fighter and talked a little bit about the maps. Steven Austin was creating to encourage people like buoy to hunt for a silver mine that maybe never existed. In this episode, buoy is going to explain why Colonel William, Travis is leading the defense, even though the majority voted buoy.

And instead, we'll also talk about his relationship with pirate, John Laffite. The buoy brothers slave trading scheme. And the reason why the federal government was unraveling buoys, fraudulent land grants, long after his death. And then the next reinforcements arrived sent by Governor Smith. That was Lieutenant Colonel William Barrett Travis, the young lawyer. Then another group arrived later and they included the very famous David Crockett of Tennessee.

You know, he served in the Congress for Tennessee. Yeah. But he had lost his last election because he had opposed President Jackson's Indian removal plan, which led to that horrible trail of tears. And it wasn't a good idea to oppose president Jackson. And so Crockett lost his last election and I'll wager even you have heard about his famous quote when he was leaving Tennessee and as he was passing through Arkansas.

And as he came to Texas, every town he stopped, he made a speech declaring that since his constituents had failed to reelect him, why, they could go to hell and he was going to Texas. David Crockett is in the fort right now, right? Yes, sir. I have met him. He is a very pleasant gentleman. Still very much the backwoodsman. But he has a wonderful sense of humor. I think two things helped get him elected to Congress. First off, he was a crack shot as a hunter.

But the second was that he could tell a funny story and entertain a crowd. And those two things combined got him elected to Congress. So now here you are at the Alamo and you're bed bound. And as far as the people leading are a politician and a lawyer. On the surface, that doesn't sound so great. Well, , Mr. Crockett will readily tell you that he was never a warrior. He fought in the Creek Indian War, but he was in one major battle and It largely repulsed him, all the violence.

Now certainly, he's no stranger to blood. He's shot and skinned many a bear. But, killing men, that was something different. . And yet, it seems like something that you are very comfortable with. And I may be wrong about that, but didn't you volunteer to fight? , in 1814 , by Andrew Jackson? Aren't you always looking for a war to fight in? I don't believe that. I have, you must understand what was going on then, too. The British attacked Washington.

In the war of 1812, but that was on the other side of the Appalachian mountains on the Atlantic seaboard. Our concern was that. The Creek Indians rose up and massacred all of the many settlers that were at Fort Mimms. And that led to, we had to put down this Creek Rebellion and Crockett joined up and Brother Reason and I did.

And really, after we suppressed the Creeks, well, We heard that the British were sending ships around to the mouth of the Mississippi, and they were going to try and take New Orleans. And so, the other reason I volunteered for a militia to go help we arrived a day late. The fighting was over when we got there, , but we were fearful. Jackson was fearful. That the British might attempt a second attack. And so we stayed there in New Orleans for a while, but there was no additional fighting.

, I did meet some Tejanos who had fled. San Antonio de Behar, because this also had happened, sir. While all this was going on some Tejanos, with the help of some Anglos, had declared Texas to be a republic. And they had defeated the soldados at Goliad, and then captured San Antonio de Behar. And established the Republic of Texas, but unfortunately it only lingered a few months these were royalists and in great number.

And. Our little Republican army marched out to meet them, and there was a very bloody battle near the Medina River, and the Spanish troops triumphed, and most of the Republicans were killed, and those that survived fled back to Behar, and then, Fled from that place east towards Louisiana, but the Spanish troops pursued them. And so many were caught and then executed.

The battle of Medina was the bloodiest battle in Texas history up to that point, and maybe beyond this anyway among those who fled Behar were my. Father in law, not yet, of course, but it was Don Juan Bermundi was there and some others that would become prominent when I moved to Texas later on. I made their acquaintance there in New Orleans. In fact, something most people are not aware of.

My beloved Ursula was there When they fled Bayard, they brought her, but she was two years old at the time, sir. Let's go back to Travis for a minute. What kind of man is he? Do you have a good relationship with him? Mr. Travis and I tolerated each other. We may have had some friendship, but we were never close. As I understand it was in Alabama, he had , a law practice going, and he owned a newspaper, but he was losing money terribly, and he had to abandon that place or face debtors prison.

And that was not something Mr. Travis had any inclination to do. Unfortunately, he had a wife who was pregnant with a child and a son, a young son, Charles, and Travis left them to come to Texas. And as I remember, when he arrived, he declared himself to be a bachelor. Anyway, he opened a law office and he did very well. He really prospered. Have you ever heard the term GTT? I don't think so. What does it mean?

Well, when Mexico opened Texas to colonization, A lot of settlers would empty out their cabins, load up their and they would carve on the door of their cabin, G T T. Going to Texas? Gone to Texas. And there were , bankers who had debts that would never be repaid because, well they were just right. Beside it, G T T. And Travis was an example of the gone to Texas folks, except unlike so many others.

And to Mr Travis's credit, he made enough money that he sent money back to Alabama to pay off his debts. I consider that somewhat honorable. And then his wife Rose Rosanna came to Texas with Charles Edward, their son and their young daughter, whom Travis had never seen. Now, Travis, at this time, had already fallen in love with another woman, but he wanted a divorce, and Rosanna agreed. I think she had found a man.

She and Travis agreed that he would keep the son, Charles, and she would take the daughter back to Alabama. But Travis, in another moment of nobility, declared he would set up a marriage. An educational fund, not only for Charles Edward, but also for the daughter, a daughter he had just met. And in those days, there were very few young women had educational funds, but this girl would. And so they parted as peacefully as they could.

And Travis had this young boy and not long after the revolution descended upon us and Travis had to leave the boy with another family when he was sent to Texas. But there, things I can tell you about Travis, , he kept a diary, and as I recall, he recorded all of his sexual conquests in that diary. And if they were with a woman who required pay, he kept, he recorded the amount of money paid to the woman. And he had quite a few recordings there in his diary of all of his exploits with women.

I'm going to guess Mrs. Travis was not privy to that diary. Well, of course, no, she was in Alabama. Then they would get a divorce, but Travis never got to marry his fiance, Rebecca either. And I'm not sure after Travis got to establish his relationship with Rebecca, I don't know if he was still out there on the hunt, on the make, as it were. The other thing about Travis, he loved to read Lord Byron.

I think Travis envisioned himself as a knight in the Byronic mode, galloping across the prairies, fighting adversaries. He wanted to be in the Texas Calvary. And indeed he was for a while. I remember defeated some Mexican soldados and recovered a herd of horses that served Texas very well. But then, and perhaps a bitter irony, he was this man who longed to lead troops on horseback. Was placed in command of a fort with artillery, but he was not a likable person.

I don't think he had what you call charisma when Travis and I were there. He was a Lieutenant Colonel in the newly formed regular army of Texas and the men he brought with him, the 30 men he brought were regular army, but the rest of the garrison were volunteers. And I was in command of them. And you have to understand, volunteers in our time always elected their leaders. And when I proposed to Mr. Travis, who felt because he was regular Army, he should outrank me.

But in our election, I was the overwhelming victor. Almost all the volunteers voted for me, and perhaps the 30 regulars voted for him, you or him? I was in command of the garrison. The majority had voted for me. But, sir, this was not that long ago, and already I was feeling very ill. Already this cough had taken over me, and I called Mr. Kravis to me, and I proposed that we share command of the garrison. He could keep command of his regulars.

I would command the volunteers, but we would sign all letters jointly, and that seemed to work well. We, like I said, we tolerated each other. And that continued up to the point where the Mexican army arrived. We were not expecting the Mexican army, sir. It had been one of the most brutal winters in our history. Do you know that there were blizzards in the mountains below the Rio Grande?

We knew Santana was raising an army, but we never dreamed he could move that army through that kind of weather. And we were not expected to see his banners until late March or maybe early April. And here it was February 23rd, Travis had kept a young man up in the bell tower of the San Fernando church to keep a watch out. And that sentry began ringing the bell frantically and we all raced over to the church to the bell tower and looked and there was nothing out there, nothing at all.

But the sentry said, I saw soldiers out there, mounted soldiers. And so Travis sent two men, John W. Smith, it was and another man, Sutherland, Dr. Sutherland. And they said they would ride out to the south to check. And they said, if you see us coming back at any factor than a walk on our horses, then there's something out there. And they just rode out and just didn't see anything until they came over and arrived. And they went there.

And kind of a dry bed below them, they saw these lancers galloping back and forth, and they turned and galloped as fast as they could, and the bell started ringing. The sentries saw them coming, and Sutherland's horse slipped in the mud and went down. And John W. Smith spun around, rode back and picked him up double and carried him back. And we were mostly living in the town at that time. But we began grabbing whatever we could and fleeing towards the Alamo.

It was across the river from the town and we had to cross this wooden bridge. We were not prepared, sir. Not prepared at all. Yeah. I see that. And we were fortunate. I led a few of Tejanos and we. We gathered up a herd of cattle and drove them in, I, God, we're gonna need food. And then we went in warehouses and found sacks of corn and we brought those in. We had enough beef and corn to last us for a month. But of course the problem was if we're gonna last that long, we need reinforcements.

I told you this place was huge and we had, at that point, not even 200 men and. We had 18 pieces of functional artillery. The other barrels were lying in the dirt, no one had mounted them. Typically, it took five men to operate a cannon. And you could reduce the crew to four, three if in desperation, but our men were not even skilled artillerymen. But if we had these cannons, we had to put a crew of men in every one of them. Then you had to have some riflemen to protect them.

And that left long stretches of wall to be defended by just a few sparse riflemen. We didn't have enough men to defend that place. There was no hope without a substantial reinforcement. And the only possible reinforcements we could think of would be coming from Goliad. Colonel Fannin had some 400 men there. Yeah, this is definitely a dire time for sure. But let me I want to switch directions for a second, and I want to ask you about your past a little bit.

Because it seems like whatever is going to happen at the Alamo is going to happen at this point. But there was a lot of time where you were not fighting, and it seemed like you were very active in business. Specifically, you were involved in land speculation. And this is one of the things about your history that I don't actually understand because there's a lot of history that says that some of the land speculation that you did, even a lot of it, was not necessarily above board.

Let me try and explain this. My brothers and I worked together on numerous enterprises. There was my oldest brother, John, then brother reason myself, and then Stephen was the young one, but we had worked a lumbering operation. That was absolutely legitimate. It didn't make us a lot of money. , we had been peripherally involved in that. I told you about that. That very brief Republic of Texas that was defeated at the Battle of the Medina. I had joined up for just part of that.

Didn't like the way it was developing. I had not stayed. Even as far as Behar, but I had met the pirate Jean Lafitte. In fact, I met Mr. Lafitte at New Orleans and he was certainly a bit of a rogue. But after that, after the Battle of New Orleans, he had relocated to Galveston Island. Now at this time, Texas was still under Spanish rule and Lafitte, He had a fleet of ships that he would send out to pray primarily on Spanish vessels.

He wanted to capture their gold or silver or whatever treasure they had. And inevitably they also were carrying slaves and Mr. Lafitte would bring the slaves back and he had no desire to keep them. So he offered them at a very cheap price. Let me tell you that a slave in those days, an average slave would typically bring a thousand dollars and Not many people could afford that.

Only the exceedingly wealthy could be plantation owners and have field hands working out there, as well as house servants. And of the two, a field hand , would have a very hard life. house servant, on the other hand, oh, they worked hard, but They could be accepted as a member of the family. Anyway, I digress. We bought my brothers and I, we acquired slaves from Lafitte for about 150 a piece. I think he sold them a dollar a pound.

And this was not an easy undertaking because we had to slip through the swamps of Western Louisiana and Southeastern Texas. We had to avoid. Not only the dangers inherent in the swamps, but we had to avoid hostile Indians or Spanish troops and then get down to Galveston Island, acquire the slaves and smuggle them back through , this same path that was inherent with dangers. And then we would secure the slaves in a hiding place and promptly go and turn back.

The slaves in because the law of Louisiana at that time stipulated that if contraband slaves were discovered, they would probably be put up for public auction. And as I said, a slave would typically bring 1, 000, maybe more. And so my brothers and me, we could just sit back and get 350 a slave for free. Or , if we saw one we wanted to bid on, we could be in it certainly when, because We had a head start, if you understand. , lemme see if I've got this right.

So you're getting the slaves from the pirate lafitte for 150 bucks and then instead of selling them , you're bringing them in and turning in your own slaves as contraband and then making money from the government off of that. Is that right? Well, of course, we didn't turn ourselves in. We didn't confess that we were the ones who had smuggled these slaves in. We just said we knew where contraband slaves were.

Wow. But after we made this trip several times, there's no question that the parish sheriff had to know what was going on. Right. Now, let me try and put things in perspective, sir. It was a time where the country was just starting to change. There was an awakening going on, but not very fast. But there was an abolitionist movement just developing. And so far it had gotten the government to go so far as to prohibit the importation of any more slaves into the country.

Now, that was, I believe, , 1808, , but only a few years before that President Jefferson had purchased the Louisiana Territory. Now, people need to understand what that means. That term was applied to all the country west of the Appalachians up to the Rocky Mountains. A vast amount of country. And the southern part was still fertile land, ideal for plantation culture. But the plantation owners who were moving into that needed slaves. And there were no more slaves being brought in.

So literally a black market originated and my brothers and I participated in that. And as I said it was illegal. But you have to understand, sir, that. At that time, in that place, it was not even immoral. The parish sheriff certainly understood what we were doing, and he tolerated. The parish got money, a lot of money, from what we were doing.

Everybody knew that the Bowie brothers were behind this operation, but my brother John got elected to the Louisiana legislature, despite the fact that he was a slave smuggler. And later he moved to Arkansas where he was elected into the Arkansas legislature. And my brother Reason was then elected into the Louisiana legislature. So this was illegal, people weren't necessarily looking down on this because as you're saying it's not immoral.

I'm sure there were people who considered it immoral, but not very many. The majority Welcome to what we were doing, and it didn't last very long because the pirate left the left Galveston and sailed off into oblivion. No one knows where he went. And it was then that my brothers and I found the next enterprise. Before you tell me about the next enterprise, I have to ask this question about the slaves.

So when slaves come in and you turn them into the government, okay, they give you 500 bucks for each of them, so you've made 350 per slave. And then what did they do with them? Because you can't bring them in. No, then they could be sold at public auction. Oh, okay. So it's okay to sell them at public auction, just not for you. No, No, I get it. Slaves could not be brought into the country and then sold at public auction.

But those slaves that were already here, since we supplied that, we brought them here. Oh my gosh. And they were contraband slaves taken over by the parish, and the parish sold them at public auction. And that's where we made our money. We weren't rewarded, we were given, , half of the sale of the slaves. very much. Well, that's interesting. I think we made 80, 000 for that. Over the trips we made, we prospered very well, so what happened next? You were going to say, what happened next with now?

You've got a bunch of money. What now? Well, then we spent it we spent money as fast as we could make it and buy in our own places. But we decided to get into land speculation. Now again, it all fell back on this Louisiana territory when the U. S. Government bought it. All that land belonged to the U. S. Government.

Unless there was A prior claim to the land and Spanish land grants seem to abound back in our country because it had all been Spanish territory at one time and I must confess that my brothers and myself seem to have an almost endless supply of Spanish land grants. Which, of course, I concede, we forged them. But this was such a new transgression that we were engaged in, there wasn't even a law against it. So we were not even breaking the law when we did this, because the law didn't exist.

We certainly tied up the land grants and the government, the courts, for months and months after that. They were still trying to sort through all these fraudulent land grants, trying to determine what was real and what was not. And they just generically attached a name to these. They called them buoy grants. Before my name became famous as a name of a knife, it was attached to the name of a fraudulent claim. Oh, wow. Well, it wasn't just my name. It was me and my brothers.

We worked on all this together. And and again, people knew what we were up to, but it didn't harbor or hinge upon my brother's political careers. Some people have speculated that I left Louisiana to go to Texas to escape prosecution. So that's not true at all. There was never a warrant for my arrest ever. You weren't committing a crime. Well, I was , with a slaves, but Not with the land grants. I wasn't committing a crime. Of course, they would enact laws against it later.

Yeah, well, most definitely. I left Texas. I told you, my fiance, Cecilia Wells, had passed. My brothers had bought plantations down in the very southern part of Louisiana, and lived there briefly, but I needed more, and Texas offered more. And maybe even then, I'm trying to remember, maybe even then I'd heard those stories about those lost Spanish silver mines. I left for Texas. That was 1830, I believe, when I actually moved, and so much happened there.

People describe you in several different ways and I'm wondering which of these you would use to describe yourself because , as you just said that, I think I maybe understand a little bit more about your personality than I have at any point during this conversation and people list you as a slave smuggler and they list you as a frontiersman And a hunter, a soldier a a folk hero, a pioneer and then explorer. And I'm wondering if that isn't the one that you're most.

Is that what you're looking for? Is that why, you know You seem to be involved in so many different things. I don't know, sir. I have to confess. I do love adventure. I get bored easily. I came to Texas and married Ursula and her father helped us. We financed the establishment of some mills. We had one right there by the San Jose mission But how do I explain this? I was rarely home and I wasn't the type to be taken care of something like that.

People always seem to need me want me, want my help. After the Sansaba Indian fight, I led another. Expedition into that country, and I have to confess, we kind of looked around for that mine, but we were doing other things as well, and it was largely for the the Hefe back in Behar, he wanted a report on what we found And right after that, Mr. Austin contacted me. This is before Santa Ana had come to power, but already there were centralists who were in favor of disposing of the Constitution.

And already, there was a bit of a revolution in Mexico, and now that bled over into Texas. General Piedras brought men up to Nacogdoches. And there was some fighting going on there, and Mr. Austin did not want us to be fighting Mexican soldados. He sent me to defuse the situation, and I rode to Nacogdoches, I got there just after a skirmish had taken place between the citizens and the soldados, and they had retreated to the south.

I got a small force put together, and we managed to circle around them and we knew where they would have to cross the fort at the Angelina river. We were waiting on the other side in the dense underbrush. And when they approached, I called out to general Pedro's to surrender because we had him outnumbered. And he was wary of surrendering to us, but his subordinates were quite convinced that those woods on the other side of the river were filled with Texians and.

And so, they reluctantly agreed to surrender. They had us outnumbered ten to one, I suspect, but we took them prisoner and treated them very well. Fed them very well. Made sure that they were comfortable and we Escorted them down to the border and sent them back home. Why did they think outnumbered when you were outnumbered? Because we were in underbrush that they couldn't see and we were firing volleys as quickly as we could. And they really did believe that we were more than we said we were.

A little trick, I pulled a bluff. But like I said, we took exceptionally fine care of our prisoners, and when we released them, I was thanked very warmly by General Piedras, and was delighted that we had them. Resolve the situation in such a way that it would not reflect poorly on Texas.

But then I received word that my father in law Don Veramendi decided to move our province government to Monclova, which was much nearer to the Texas border, and we all supported that, but he needed me down there because this was a, a radical move, and there were some very much opposed, and I went down to help serve in part as a bodyguard and we got the capital moved to Monclova, , and then Brother Reed I hardly got back to Texas,

and Brother Reed and That contact me and needed me to take him up to the northeast as I described to you to see doctors. So I was hardly ever at home. I was always out there helping somebody else. It's just anybody who needed me except the one person who loves me and needed me most. And that was my beloved Ursula. We had so little time together between these journeys I made. When I brought Reason back to Louisiana after we had been up to see the doctors, I came down very ill.

At first I thought I had caught the cholera, but it was not that. It may have been malaria, I'm not sure, but I really thought I was dying. And I thought mostly of Ursula. And the fact that I would never have a chance to. I filled out my will. I'll tell you, I didn't leave a lot to Ursula. Her family was exceedingly wealthy, and my younger brother, Stephen, had died. I left a lot of money to his orphans and to my brother, Reason, who was nearly penniless and going blind.

And I thought I would die right there. I was in Vidalia, right across the river from Natchez. But somehow I recovered. And it wasn't long after that, that a letter arrived from Texas that told me that Ursula was dead. And her whole family had perished from the cholera in Monclova. And then I think I wanted to die. But I saddled up and rode back to Texas. Looking back at your life, if you could redo that, would you have spent more time with her? Of course I'd say that. And I believed that.

But when someone said they needed me, it was so hard to turn that down. What I hope I, I don't know. How can you know something like that? Speaking of the your past, as we're talking about that When you look back at the most challenging, , moment of your life, would it be something that you've already told me, or would it be something else? Well, two things jump to mind. I may not have told you about both of them. I have never known pain like I knew at the sandbar.

I was shot two, maybe three times, and stabbed six or seven. Major Wright's sword blade had pierced my lung, and it took a long time to recover from that, and I'm not sure I ever fully recovered. I would be prone to lung problems, I think, for the rest of my life. And there, in Texas, I felt, maybe it was tuberculosis, I don't know, but I, a part of me thinks, It all resulted from that scar on my lung from that sword blade. They say that your lungs never heal completely.

And perhaps in some final irony, Major Rott's a sword through my lung. Maybe why I'm lying in this bed right now. Maybe. But the other thing, of course, as I just told you, the pain I felt when I learned that Ursula had died, that was a different kind of pain, but it was every bit as hard and as bitter as what I had known. . Yeah, that, that sounds like, , the relationship and the feelings that you had with Ursula are very real.

And I it's a shame that, , things are happening the way they are right now. And it certainly is a shame , that happened the way that it did. Somebody like that certainly doesn't deserve to die from cholera. , That's just terrible. , sir, I would like to just ask you just a couple more questions and then be thankful for your time today. It seems that you throughout your life have had no fear of taking very large risks.

And is that something that you got from your father or were you just born that way? It just seems that you were fearless in everything that you did. Is that, do you have something you might, you'd, you might want to say about that? Well, yeah we were not afraid of risks my brothers and myself. You know, some people tend to be very romantic and they say, When a man has nothing left to live for, then sometimes he is simply looking for a cause for which he can die.

And after Ursula's death, I may have become even more reckless. I told you how I had been Mr. Austin's troubleshooter. And I think, , when we advanced on Behar, when our army advanced, he would send me ahead with men.

And I would scout the area especially as we were getting close to Bay Harp there's a string of missions that extend along the river to the south and I arrived at a spotter to check it out as a camping place and there were troops there and we engaged in a skirmish, Austin brought his army up and sent me ahead. And I was looking for a place to camp. I was getting very close to Behar, and there was a bend in the river there just opposite the mission Concepcion.

And I put my men down in that river bend. An army approaching us would probably have to advance from the front of us. Into that bend behind us, there was heavy woods. And sure enough, the Mexican spotted us. And that next morning, it was a dense fog. The troops, Mexican troops got down there and. We spotted them just as the fog was lifting and they opened fire. They had two cannon and a great many men, far more than we had. I think we had 90 men and they were several hundred.

But we had dug ledges on the inside banks of the river so we could be low and step down to load our weapons and fire. And they fired artillery at us, but all it did was was knock the pecan nuts off of the trees above us, and they would try to advance, and we'd drive them off and then suddenly I said, the cannons, boys! And we charged up off the bank and charged right at those soldados, and they broke and ran and abandoned their artillery.

And we did that just as Travis came galloping up with some cavalry just ahead of Austin's army. They weren't in time to capture the soldados that fled back to Behar, but we had defeated them. We had killed a number of their soldados, and we had lost only one man dead. Anyway, after that, the siege began. Austin left to go to the United States to try to get support for our army, for our revolution. And we had the army, Mexican army, pinned down for a month.

And then our scout His name was Deef Smith. He was an incredible man, but he came galloping up saying that there was supply train, a mule train, bringing packs of something or other towards the town. And we figured this had to be money, probably silver coins for the soldados in that town. And I charged out and attacked that pack train and co sent troops out from the town to stop him. And more of our men charged out. There was a battle and we were winning. We were driving her back.

It was conception again, and we captured the pack train. And I remember taking out that knife and slashing one of those sacks. And it wasn't silver coins poured out. It was grass for the starving horses inside the town. Well, we'd won a battle, a big battle, but we hadn't enriched ourselves any. And then. General Houston who would make me his troubleshooter, and I would run errands for him, and it was he who sent me back to Behar. Originally, of course, he wanted me to.

Destroy the fortifications and pull the cannons back to the east. That wasn't what Governor Smith wanted. And so we stayed and and found ourselves in this situation. We just did not expect. You know, on Washington's birthday, we had a great party in the town. I left early because my cough was getting worse. But the party went on. We didn't know that Santa Ana was already camped just across the Medina River, not far from us at all.

The next morning, what a surprise, the next morning is when his troops advanced on the town and we fled into Beja and the red flag went up and that's where we are. And I fell very ill. And here we are now. Here we are 12 days later. The men of Gonzalez, which was only 90 miles to or 80 or 90 miles to the east of us, they sent us 32 men. To my knowledge, that's the only reinforcements we've gotten. And that's not nearly enough to man these walls. We need 500 men at least to defend this perimeter.

And we don't have it. And perhaps in the morning, Santana will launch a full scale assault against us. And it will not go well for us. I want you to know, sir, can't rise out of this bed, but I have two pistols, and I have this big knife. And when those soldados break through the door into my room, am most determined to try to prove to them that I am a hard man to kill. Well, I can tell you that I would not want to be the man charging into that room trying to prove that wrong.

Based on all the times that you have been at the odds that you are right now in this battle, that appears to be about to take place. And I would not want to be on the other side of that knife. Sir, I appreciate your time so much today. Is there anything that you'd like to say before we wrap this up? Just remember our sacrifice, sir. Remember the Alamo. James buoy is probably known most for his sandbar duel and the Bowie knife. Although it is miraculous that he survived that altercation.

He had nothing to do with the creation of the Bowie knife. In fact, one of the biggest sellers of that knife was an English company. Nonetheless, the buoy brothers always lived closer to the edge than most people were willing.. He happily charged into battle first without fear. And when there were opportunities that could be exploited legal or not. He was very comfortable pushing the envelope to see what he and his brothers could get away with.

, it's no wonder that he wasn't at home with Ursula because he was probably more comfortable in places where things were unsettled and the lines could easily be blurred or had never been drawn at all. Thanks for listening. And if you enjoyed this podcast, subscribe now I'm Tony Dean. And until next time I'm history.

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