Hello, and welcome to deb statat Dojo, where we work to shed light on the phenomenon. Deb stat at Dojo is part of the Callingwall Beings podcast network. I'm your host Deb. Today we're welcome Marie from Marie's UFOs. Marie has been encountering UFOs since the onset of childhood experiences in Ireland in the sixties. Some of her experiences have included contact with entities. The phenomenon has been following her wherever she goes and has been able to She has been able
to capture many of her sightings on film. Welcome Marie. Thank you very much for asking me. It's great to be here. Thanks Nat. Yes, it's very exciting to get to talk to you about your experiences and I truly appreciate that you're willing to give us that time. Thank you. You're welcome. So I thought we could start maybe at the beginning, and maybe you could tell us a little about how this all began. Okay, started
off with me screaming going to bed at night. My mother told me I was about three or four at the time, and it wasn't all the time, just occasionally a couple of times in a month or something like that. I'll be screaming and screaming and saying there's people in the room coming to take me, and I was pointing to the wall. They were coming out of the wall. So they thought, you know, what's wrong with this child? You know, it's really weird. So nobody knew what to make it.
And my mom called the doctor on a few occasions and see if I had a high temperature, I was coming down with something. I was never anything wrong with me, so that sort of went away, and then I had a few sleep paralysis things. It was like something creepy in my life for all through my childhood, and I associated it with ghosts. Growing up in Ireland, everything is either ghosts or the devil, you know, or
angels. There's no really anything else. You know, there's a banshee, I suppose, but everything is anything happens in the house, it's ghosts or something creepy, something really bad. So I think the adults scared the children to death with this stuff. So I always thought everything that happened was to do with ghosts or paranoral because there'll be doors opening and lights going on and off, TV switching on and off, music radio going on you know,
things like that. So I always got a creepy feeling. So that was always happening, and nothing. I don't remember anything major. I did see a few crafts when I was about nine or ten. Its little triangle shape followed me my friend. One day, we were going through a field going to school and it sort of just walked with us, you know, where we were walking, and it was overhead, going really slow, just as we were going through the field, and then it just shut off. And
we knew that was something different. We knew it wasn't one of ours or in a normal plane as it were. We just knew it was something different. So that was always in my mind. So the next episode, really the major one that woke me up, was when I was about eighteen seventeen eighteen. I was with my boyfriend and his parents had gone away for the night, so I was staying over at his house. And all I remember
is we woke up was three o'clock in the morning. I remember that distinctly because it was the clock opposite where the bed was, and I looked at it straight away and it was three o'clock. But I woke up to all this noise. It was unbelievable. It was like the furniture was like jumping off the ground. It was. The door was slamming and closing and opening, closing, slamming. The wardrobe door in the hallway was slamming. We had some chrome bars in the hall. He had some chrome bars out in
the hall. They were literally jumping off the ground. You could hear them jumping off, literally off the floor and banging. And I just sort of screamed, my god, Oh my god, what's going on? What's going on? And then within i'd say about five seconds, it stopped. Just everything just stopped. And he was there in the corner like shaking, hanging onto his used to wear a crucifix in the medal around his neck. He was hanging on to his crucifix like in shock. And I was thinking he
just heard the same as me, you know. But I said, I'm going home, going home, Come with me, Come with me. He didn't want to come. He was just in shock. Heasn't no, I'm staying here. So I said, well I'm going with no way I'm staying here. So I ran home the road to my mom's. Told my mom what happened. She was, oh my god, what have you kid's been up to? You know, you bring this on yourself. Also, she thought, because I looked into things, Because from a very very early age,
I had a lot of things happen. So I started researching and looking for answers myself, because adults can't give you the answer. And I knew when they said go to bed, there's nothing there, I knew they weren't right. I knew something was there and something was coming. So I knew a lot of the things that people said to me wasn't true. So that made me go search my own answers. So I started researching very young. And so my mom thought, this was when you dabble, You bring things
on yourself. This is a Catholic thing, you know, I think, And I said, I think. We didn't do anything. We didn't do anything. So the next day I thought we'd better go around and see if my boyfriend was all right. So I got my sister to come around with me. We went around to the house and he'd smash like all the mirrors in the house. He'd just smashed all these mirrors in his glass everywhere, and the house looked a bit wrecked, and things smashed a lot your mom's
going to kill us. I'm going to kill you. I was, oh my god, what happened last night? Trying to go over what happened? What you know, what did chair? And he was saying there was aliens in the room. There was aliens in the room. I said, well, I didn't see any aliens. So he was acting really strange. He'd gone completely flipped his lid, and he insisted that there was aliens over the bed where I was, and he was in he was in the corner of the room. He jumped out of bed, but he said they were doing
something to me in the bed. And I was saying, oh my god, he's lost the plot because I didn't remember anything. I don't didn't remember anything at all except the noise when I woke up. And he just insisted there was aliens. You said from that day there was aliens in the room. His mom and dad a right. Can I ask you a question about that? I was wondering if he had known about your prior experiences before this one. No, not really, because I never put them down to really
anything, just strange experiences. And people used to say, there it must be dreams of this, but I put it down to all a ghosts came or something came, and it's gone. I forget about it after a few days. I don't dwell on things, and that's why I've tended to do. Something happened, oh my god, oh my god, and you think about it for a couple of days, but it goes. What else can you do? You don't get an explanation. So, you know, we
had go little few ghostsy experiences, and so did he as well. Actually a couple of his moments his spirit in the basement, and you know, a few odd things like that. So he had his own share as well of odd things happen. So I think maybe that's what we had in common. I don't know, because we were both on the same wavelength and both looking into paranormal stuff and researching, and both interest in UFOs and things like
that. So, yeah, have you heard the interesting hypothesis that people with the ability to detect the phenomenon and may actually be attracted to each other. I don't know. Maybe isn't that an interesting concept? So that maybe that you found each other for that reason in part. So I've heard that, actually I have heard I have heard of that. It must be that they were maybe met before on the ship or something like that. You know, yeah, yeah, I have heard that. There's a speculation about that one.
I have met people that you definitely think you've met before. I have a few times in my life and you feel that you know them so well and it turns out you do quite know them quite well, even though you've only just met them. I have had that before. That's a bit strange. Now, before this incident happened, had you had every other experiences with
time loss? M oh, quite a few. Yeah. It's like, oh, it's just so strange because what used to happen was I'm in bed, everything everyone's sleep and the lights all off, and it was always about three am, four am, always those hours. This is all my life till I was about thirty. It was always at that time three o'clock in
the morning. So I got used to staying up. I would do anything to stay up until the daylight and had to work my life around that, you know, not get much sleep and all this because I just was ready to go to bed in the dark because this is when it would happen. It's like, it is nice sleep paralysis. God, I can see why
they get it confused, but it's it's not the same. It's a bit different, but it's slightly the same because you are paralyzed and you wake up, well as I wake up, and absolutely paralyzed, and you know straight away you paralyze because you can't move. You want to move. Oh my god, Oh my god. Straight away you know it's not normal, and
you think, oh my god. And there's either a really bright light down the end of my bed or in the corner of the room right at the end of the you know, in the room, right at the end of the bed, and I can't look at it. It's like my eyes won't move. I can move my eyes a little bit, but not all the way down there. And I'm lying, I like sleep on my back, so I'm looking up at the ceiling basically trying to move my eyes down.
And then I'm thinking, oh my god, it's something evil. Always thought it was something really evil, and I just thought, then I don't want to see it. Whatever it is, I don't want to see it, so I'll keep my eyes closed. And then the next thing I know, it's morning, and I'd forget what was in between. But yeah, I think to myself, how can I go to sleep and I'd remember the next day, oh my god, that's scary feeling came back, And it's always
a horrible, scary feeling in my stomach. And then it's like a wave that would feel coming, and then the paralysis and then it's like, oh my god. Yes, but not too many times. Probably about ten times in my whole life I've had that, so not too many. Some people get it a lot. Were there any other sensations? Like it sounds like you had the sensation that people often relate to fear and being panicked. Essentially, it is panic does take over as well because you're panicking, then you
can't breathe. And then I noticed there's always this noise as well, this unbelievable loud noise. It's like standing next to a jet and that loud, like really loud, and your air's actually my ears actually hurt me when I wake up, and like I've been too a really loud concert or something where you know, you stand by the speakers, and I can feel like something has happened, like it was real. You know, I didn't feel like
a dream or anything. It feels absolutely real, And I'm in my normal room, I'm thinking my normal thoughts, I just can't move, and then you're just gone, and I'm thinking something scary is happening. You're you know, adrenaline goes sky high. I wouldn't fall asleep, and that's happened several times. I just fall asleep, and it's like, I know, I wouldn't do that. I'd be scared and I'd jump up and I'd put the lights on. And what I have done on occasions, you know, is
what I would do. But on those occasions with the sleeperalysis, I don't but and I don't suffer with any illnesses or anything, any disorders. Never had any sleep disorders, just the sleeperalysis, which some people would argue that sleep disorder. But it was only very occasional, maybe once or twice a year, maybe once in some years, you know, now and again. But it used to happen quite a lot when I was younger. I haven't
had it so much when I got older and now. In addition to having those experiences, obviously had numerous repeat sightings of orbs and objects in the sky, and I would like to know a little bit more about those, like which different kind of shapes you've seen how often you've seen them things like that.
Would really be curious to know more about that as well. They all came later because at the time when I was getting in sleep around, I very rarely saw anything in the sky because I wouldn't be really out late. I was on your child, so I wouldn't be looking at the windows. But occasionally I did see a craft. Never got any photos. But I know there was aliens coming. I I knew. I always knew there were aliens, and I thought I had a bit of ghosty kind of creepy stuff
as well. But I knew aliens were coming to visit me since I was very early, very early on, and I was telling my mom and family. It's a big joke in the family from when I was a child, and I used to say, aliens have created us. I always said that I'm almost and I'm like, God, where you're getting this from? You know, child, the Antichrist and all the rest of it, and you shouldn't doing things like that, and I, well, I have they have.
So I always argued about God and going to church and things like that as well. That was at the back of my mind and I was always rebel, so I'm not religion. Now, I do believe there is if you want to call it a god or a higher being, you know, higher vibrations, positive energy. I do definitely believe there is something higher than here and we will be answerable for things, but not a god as such as we you know, they teach you in religion. But I do definitely
believe there is an afterlife. Yeah, so it does seem like your family did not have a shared experience with you. It seems like some of these experiences for people are multi generational. But it wasn't that case. No, not at all. I don't know. My grand mother, my mom's mother, had a few things. She's the same me and you're exactly the same. And she always was frightening things and very superstitious and all that. So I don't know if she never talked about it. But nobody has had ET
or UFO experiences in the family at all. Only one with me, and we see something. My brothers have seen something. Uh yeah, a few in the family have seen things for me. But I only started saying the UFOs probably in the nineteen nineties. Ninety eight was a major one. That was when I had some of the five hours of missing. That was the next major episode. The first one was I've said with the boyfriend. Then
when I was eighteen, and then nothing major happened. That's excitings got someone video, but I don't remember any too much Sleeperalyss, is there any experience, is or anything. The next real major one was when I was I was my daughter was about six and I was about thirty five or something like that. That was in nineteen ninety eight, and that was the next major one. And when I saw something at the window and it was big. It was like a big I call the MORBs now big orb craft. At
the time, I just said it was a big glowy ball. I didn't know what else to call it. It was just a massive glowy ball like the moon. And I ran in to tell my husband, look at this, look at this, and then he doesn't remember anything after that, and I didn't remember. I rapped to the bedroom, went to the window,
sat at the window watching this thing. And then next of all, it's five hours later, it's like six am in the morning, and I go about my business if nothing happened, and I didn't remember it for about three weeks. Something jogged my memory at work one day and I thought, oh my god, the UFL and couldn't wait to run home and asked my husband remember this UFL we saw three weeks ago whatever, And he remembered me running in and saying, look at this, and him looking out and seeing it.
But he doesn't remember anything at all after that, the same as me. And I got memories back maybe three years later of being on a ship at that time, and a few things that the eaties told me. Yeah, it's really interesting how often people just completely forget their event. For some people, they all it takes years for them to remember it happened. Yeah, it's just so weird. And so I knew. I knew. It was one o'clock, my husband and I watching a movie, and my daughter
woke up screaming. She never woke up crying, doing Slee've never had nightmares, never afraid to go to bed of monsters or anything like child children are. She was never liked that. But she just woke up crying this night, and she said the building was shaking, Everything in the room was shaking, and she thought the building was falling down. She got saying, the building's falling down, the building's falling down, and I said, oh, you know, you're having a dream and a bad dream and must be having
a bad dream. And she said, I'm not. I'm not that I really thought she was, because we hadn't felt anything. And that's when I brought her into my bed. Were lying down, We're having a little giggle, making her laugh, trying to make a forget, and something came in the shot in the window, like a laser shot through the gap in the curtains and got me in the eye. It was like a laser laser gun, one of those laser pointing things, like a white one, and I
thought, oh my god, what was that. That's when I jumped up, looked at the window and I saw this huge glowy ball and it couldn't have been anything else because I lived on the fourth floor. There was no lights up that high. There was nothing up that high. Street level lights were down much lower than this, not on a flight path. But this
thing was just stop there in front of me. It was huge, absolutely huge, And I lived in a block of apartments, you know, flats, so anybody could have seen this in a very busy area in London, Kensington area. It's very busy center London, so this thing was really big. It was much bigger than the moon, but like the moon, but down really low, and it was bright as anything. And then when it was when I woke up after this five hours, it was six am and
it was becoming daylight. It was like the sun had come up, and this thing just turned a lovely gold and misty color and it just disappeared. It went like smoke, didn't fly away, didn't fly up down, it just disintegrated into like mist, golden mist, and disappeared. And I just went about my business then until I remember three weeks later it was oh my
god. And I remember then I was on a ship. I was missing for five hours because I know it was one o'clock when my daughter woke up, and I know then it was six am, so there was five hours missing time there and my husband that we were divorced then since but I've met up with them, maybe maybe about six years ago in London live in Australia, but it came over for you know, holiday, and I met up and he said he's remembered, he remembers missing time, and he said,
you were right all the time all the time. I said, I didn't remember because a lot of the time he wouldn't remember. It was like he'd just fall asleep and he wouldn't wake up, and I think, oh, my god, you must remember, you must remember something in the room last night, and I was calling you and he wouldn't remember anything. I think, no, he must be dreaming. And it's really annoying because I know I'm not dreaming. You know, when somebody tells you you're dreaming, it's
really annoying. You know absolutely you're not. But so I haven't been that many experiences really. But then I took some footage. Maybe I have some that's twenty years ago. Some videos there are twenty years Oh, that's probably the oldest video I have on a really old phone that was in the same apartment object outside of some my YouTube channel, and then nothing really the odd sighting here and there that I didn't catch on film until about six years ago.
And then I noticed them. I just started zooming in on a few of my photographs of the sky. So I like chick claky because of the moon and the sky there's nice cloud formations and nice colors and things like that, and I noticed I just assumed in on a few photographs and I noticed these really bright orbs in half circle formations or just informations, you know, they weren't blobs or bits of dust. And I'm zoom in on these objects and some of them were gray craft and then I thought, oh my god,
it's really clear crafts. So I started checking everything then, and then I started leaving my camera on and asking them to show up, just you know, show up. I'm going to tip leave my camera off twenty minutes, and I would get loads. This is what most of them are that
I catch really fast ones buzzing in and out. And so since then, and I get the feeling now on they're here, to get my camera and go outside and I'll take pictures on the loads of orbs, or see the differences orbs that I get in the house, which I think there's summer spirit orbs and maybe past relatives or something like that, and then or or or craft that I called orbs, So people might get mixed up with those they questions before them. I don't know what's called them though. Yes, I
have so many questions related to those things that you've said. Let's go back a little bit when when you were on the craft, can you tell us what that looked like what it was like inside the craft. Well, I remember first going into it and I was floating. It was like floating up from my room. I don't know how I got through the roof or anything else, but I remember floating. Don't remember floating in my room. I
just remember going into the craft from the bottom. What I what I saw was after I saw the glowy ball outside, something came out of the ceiling. It was like a blue bubble, just like a bubble, and I think it was something to do with that. That's all I remember with that part, and the the next thing I know, I'm floating into the It
was like there was just so many controls. It was like a control room, and it was just so many lights, so many oh just thousands, thousands, loads of stuff going on, really busy, really really busy, just so much going on, and then it's very patchy. I remember I was just in a really white place, very white, just everything white.
And there was just loads and loads and loads and loads of little plants everywhere, little plants in pots, green plants everywhere, just for as far as I could see going on for you know, it seemed like there seemed to be curves going around because I couldn't see in a straight line, so I think it was a curved place. I think I think it was a ship. It must have been a ship. But it was all There was nothing, nothing else that I could see in there, No desks, no TV
screens, nothing. After I came out of the controls, I just remembered the control room. That was just all thousands things going on, things spinning, loads of techno, just loads of stuff going on. I couldn't even explain it further. And I'm sorry. I was going to say, I know that you said that you have seen entities. Was that the first time that you saw wine was once some in that room with you the control I
didn't actually I didn't actually see them that time. I just felt them behind me and they were I was walking along or floating along, I don't know, but they were behind me. I felt there were two on each side. I just felt the presence and they felt kind of tall. But I never saw them at that time. And I just heard a voice in my head and it said, you can ask two questions, and I just like,
I don't even think they were my questions. I think I would have said something else so I just said, what's happening with all the plants? What are you doing with all these plants? And the answer just said in my head there for the new planet Earth, and that was all nothing else, and I said okay, and we walked and carried it on around and then I saw a lot of people, just normal people, regular people like
humans. They were just loads of all wearing different clothes, just all standing around as well, like in a trance or something, not even moving or saying anything. That was really silent. And he said to me asking the man's voice and it was in English, I could understand it, and it said, just you can ask your second question. And I said, what's happening with these people? What are you doing? And he just said they are being categorized, and that's all. I said, okay, And that's
all I remember from that. I don't remember anymore. But I just said, of five hours missing, and that's only like a couple of minutes. I remember. Oh, these people were looking at them. As I was walking up to the people, they were looking at images like I don't know, it wasn't a screen, it was like just in the air sort of thing. And I could see them when I came up and they were being
shown images of the earth. The one I saw one image and it was like this black stuff had come up out of the earth and like oil or something like that was coming up out of the earth and killing everything, killing fish, animals, trees, and it covered like vast areas of the earth. And that's what the images were being shown. The images I saw on
screen. It was horrible because at first they showed the images of a lovely earth and even fish jumping out of the water, animals all over the place, happy like you see in you know, the Garden of Eden kind of setting, and it was just like that, and then it just changed and just all went gray and black, and it was like the sun had been blocked out as well. There's now it was very dark and gray. It
was like there was something shielding out the sun. So I'm thinking of something going to happen, major disaster with some I don't know, could it be permafrost. So one professor I spoke to thinks it might be permafrost that you're getting the premonition for that he was studying that, or I don't know. I just thought it might be oil, maybe the oil wells suddenly burst and just fill up the earth and nothing will grow again, or something like that.
I was thinking, but your mind can run away with you and you don't know the details. That's all I know. But I'm trying to put things together and could it be this, could it be that? But it's all just my guess work at the moment. Isn't it all throughout another another pass? Some people think, hmm, that there's a level of psychological manipulation when we work with these entities. And I'm wondering if they were trying to
explain to the people that they've taken why they took them. And it doesn't mean that there isn't a possibility that that will happen, but it's almost like they were giving an explanation from what you're saying. Do you think so? I didn't never looked at it like that. I've wanted to know this all my life. Why do they take some people? And it's got a little bit further with there's like a connection now, and I don't know if they build that up over so many years. It takes long amount of time.
Because some people say they're getting all this information and so much information egis are telling them loads and stuff at human history and everything. I'm not sure if I believe too many stories, but it's just that i've felt it's been all my life. Now I'm you know, sixty, and the information has been very minimal. I've been asking for information for a long time, but I think it's been very slow the way they've shown themselves to me, because even
years ago they hid everything. It was like I would catch the end of it, a tiny glimpse to make me doubt myself, and I'm thinking, I really see something. Was it a dream? Could it have been a dream? So I was always questioning myself, but I always got the end of it. And then I started getting certain things on photos and think, well, I didn't imagine that I have a photo of it. So I was able to catch a few things now and again, so I stopped doubting
myself and taking notes of everything. So it's been very drip feed that i'd call it. And now the ship's I get in the craft, O get they let me see loads. Now I've got so many different crafts different times. And that was a question I'd asked earlier about can you please say what different shapes you have seen? Because because I don't want people to think you're just seeing one thing. You're actually seeing quite an incredible amount of things.
Yeah, and the one I saw in London where I had another amazing experience when I saw that's when I did see beings that time. That was a It was the first time I've ever seen a craft as big as this. It was a triangle shaped craft, and I had another thing coming out at the bottom, like another bit stuck on the bottom that came out, so it wasn't completely triangle. And I was there was some day before my sister died. Actually I was very upset. I was at home. My uncle
had stayed with me. We were at the hospital and taking turns, so we just come home that night. We were going to go back next morning. I was at the window. My uncle had gone to bed, and again it was my three am. Three am, really tired, and I was having a cigarette at the window and I just saw this red light shoot across the sky and I thought, oh, that's really cool. A wonder if that's etes. Are you here? Can you hear me? And I thought, while you're there, if you are here, can you please help
my sister? I really really need to help my sister. So I was asking for this, and then suddenly I had my head at the window and suddenly this came from behind the building, if you can imagine. So it came. It stuck its nose out as it were, so I could see it, and I just looked up and I just saw this amazing craft overlooking the building, and it was so low without a sound or anything. And again there was the controls were unreal. It wasn't like a smooth, lovely
little ship people say, you know, smooth metal whenever. This had loads going on, loads little fairy lights, dozens and dozens of fairy lights. It looked like all flashing and things like that. And then the next thing I realized, I'm on the craft. Well what I thought was my phone took film of this. I remember filming this. I distinctly remember filming this
for about four minutes. And I was watching it in awe for four minutes, so I thought, watched it and oh my god, on a grin from ear to ear, I was just letting this soak in, watching it and watching it, and then it came out fully out over the big garden over when I overlook the garden came out overlooking the garden and was just there in the middle of the garden and then just moved really slowly to the left and then just glided all over the rooftops. And I'm thinking, oh my
god, I can't believe that I just saw. And then wow, I got on film. I just remember got it on film. And I remember picking my phone up off the ground, off the floor, and there was nothing on it. Well, there was one little tiny clip of a light flash going flying across. That was it the four minutes, and I thought I'd filmed. It wasn't there. And then I got those memories back again about four or five years later, and that's when I remember being on the
craft. I was in this room, lovely room with a lovely table, the white, all white again, lovely white table, and the room was lovely and white, and it was round, lovely and round, and the top had had a shape like a pyramids for a ceiling, the ccening like pyramid shapeers. I looked up, like lovely pyramid, and there was five beings at the desk at this behind this white desk, and all I could see was energy. I didn't there had no features. I couldn't see an
features. It was like they were golden energy, but they had a shape like arms, and a shape like a head, shape like a body, but no features, and just this lovely, warm golden light. Lovely but I could look at it. It wasn't too bright that I couldn't look. It was like the sun in the afternoon and you can actually look at it, you know that color. And I got this amazing love from them. It was just it was just unbelievable, and I felt that I knew them
really well. I just felt that I was seeing some old friends or old family, or I just felt I knew them and I loved them so much, and they loved me. And one of them held out a hand and I took the hand and I was just sucked in. I got sucked into this swirl. I just saw this white swirl. We're all swirling around, and I was with these five beings swirling with them. And then it was
just like, oh my god. It was like I was floating in space as a particle, That's all I can explain, and just floating around the universe and I knew everything they knew. And then I just it was unbelievable. It was like I was free. It was freedom, and then I was back down to Earth and everything was gone and didn't remember anything. But I got those memories back over the course of about a week, I'd say a little bit every day, and it was like, oh my god.
And it was coming in images like photographs, like another image and another image, and every image I was a bit further into the craft and further things happening. And that swirl was amazing when I felt, because I felt, Oh, the love was unbelievable. It's just indescribable, nothing like I've ever
felt on Earth, you know, here, this kind of love. It was something else completely and I saw I just saw all these lovely colors and patterns and the amazing galaxies and it's just all sorts of stuff like that, like you're flying through the galaxy like a particle. It was just amazing, and oh, that's all I remember. Well, I was going to ask, had you ever considered doing hypnotherapy to find out more about some of the
things that you need to piece together? Actually funny you should say that, but then I don't know if you've heard of doctor David Jacobs, who's who does regressions in the field for a long time, and then he asked me if I was interested in regression as well and another professor, and I suggest, definitely, I'll do it. So he came over from I think it was Philadelphia, and I had one session and I did find out a few things he said. I filled in a few gaps for him. I'll have
to listen to the regression again. I haven't ever listened to him because I didn't really find it. I thought it's not reliable because you're in control of what you say. He was giving me leading questions. His whole agenda is the Gray Aliens, or stealing eggs and making hybrids, so everybody on Earth will be eventually a hybrid, and it could be three quarters of the way through by now, according to his figures and facts that he says he has.
But I'm not convinced of this theory. So he wanted to take my case on, and I didn't like the way he He said he had more experience than he did. I thought he had experienced with hundreds at least, if not a couple of thousand witnesses and testimonies, but he hasn't. He's taken on all of Bud Hopkins's work, and he called that his research. So he's only got expert into a handful of people, not too many.
I don't think. Yeah, I think it's a tricky line to go get hypnotized, because if you're not with the right person, then they can push you a certain way and that's not And then if you felt like you were led at all, then you're also definitely yeah, definitely, and then you're going to question what you remember. I think I would probably not choose to do that. Yeah, I think I would prefer to be able to say
that I was not put under hypnosis. But so yeah, I'm glad that you tried, though, because it sounds like you, you know, you try to find someone reliable and well, he's supposed to be the best, one of the best, so I couldn't have gone to anybody better. I don't think he's all this experience and been doing it for forty years, written
loads of books, but I didn't trust him to be honest. He gets you to sign this, you can get this out of your It gets you to sign this waiver and to say that you won't mention your name or talk about you or talk about your experience, or well not talk about your experience. That's been not what your experience to name, So I said, oh, that's great, not Leau. You remain anonymous. That's fine. But what he does is actually writes a book about it and doesn't give you the
credit. So that's what he does, So that's what you sign away. I've noticed that some of the people have had similar experiences with people who study UFOs and the phenomenon, which is one of the reasons that I am currently not monetized at all. So yeah, right, I think my motivation is really about getting people to understand what's going on, to educate people in the public, and you know, to make sure everyone is prepared for what is
coming. But we all kind of all the people have had experiences. Peel is coming, something's coming in Yeah, So that leads me to some questions about Obviously I would love to know more about your experiences with the entities, but we'll come back to that because one of the things I really want to know is why do you think they are monitoring you? Do you feel like there's an incredible increase in that monitoring. What do you think your role is
in relation to the phenomenon. Gosh, I've organized over this, I thought, maybe it's to bring the truth forward, and maybe they're giving me the evidence of being forward. But I don't get many followers and had a lot of trolling, and I'm getting no help there, so I thought that's not it. I really don't know. I am getting a lot of the different craft they seem to show, but then the photos of blurry and a lot, and they're not really letting me get that much. But there is definitely
connection. I know when they're going to be here, and sometimes it could be months, and I'll say they'll be back on the sixteenth of June and go out and do filming on the sixteenth of June, and there'll be some craft there, so that it's months in between now, like six months in between. But I've noticed there's so many of them here. I could not believe one year. I think it was twenty eighteen when I got so many of them in this photo after photo after photo and a video after video.
They just seem to be here every day for about a week, and loads of them, like the fleets of them up really high and it's hard to see the footage. I wish somebody could analyze it for me and zoom in. I haven't got all these editing tools, but then it is very important footage. It shows really fast objects. For I'm buzzing all over the place up there, twenty thirty of them going all different directions, changing course, going backwards, coming back. You know, just it's just some one and
I thought, what on earth is going on up there? So I have felt that they're hair definitely, and they want people to see. Now they're showing a lot of people and a different kind of craft. You've got these ones that look they're shimmering and they look like you can see through them and look like they're neither hair nor they're sort of you know what I mean,
like not an actual physical object. I'm getting those ones. But they can actually turn into a solid object as well if you watch them long enough, which I have and I've observed, and the orbs, those really bright orbs, they can turn to black craft as well. And they've come down low and have filmed them, gone back up and turn into a craft again, and they can turn into a shadow when they come down to tree level,
turns into a black, round circular shadow. Very creepy, very creepy because you can sort of see through it, but it's there and you think, oh my god, it's looming over uns. It's very creepy. That one. You might appreciate that the group in Mexico known as the Vigilantes also have seen the same thing with spears. They've seen them change in the year and they've reported on that as well. They go from luminescent to metal. Oh
good, I'm not the only one. Then, it's just because I got some photos when there's six photos of six or sorry, the photo of six orbs in a circular semi circle, very bright, you can zoom in on
them, very good photos. And then I took some photos later on in the afternoon and the same little there's a little gold craft with some of the orbs, and I caught it in the afternoon with black craft six or seven black craft, which I'm suspecting they were the six or seven orbs, And I've seen it's too much of a chance to have seven orbs and seven black crafts, and I've seen it. It's with an orb and one of them, and then it's with the black craft in another photo, and I'm sure
it changed the same shape, but it's a very very bright orbs. But they're actually big craft. They're up quite high, but they're as big as a plane or definitely bigger than a helicopter. These are big craft DRAMs or anything like that. Have you ever seen one of the craft come out of another I call that the Russian doll part of the UFOs where they just come. Yeah, I have somewhere there's a big craft on night vision and then there'll be two orbs will fly out of it or something and fly up the
side, or three. Sometimes it's three with it, And I've noticed with it's very hard to see some of them on my video. If I'm filming a craft, there will always be a little orb on the left somewhere or on the right also moving up with it. We're very very small, So yeah, definitely they have the little orbs have come out. I don't know what they are. Are they big enough to have a person, I don't
know. I have always had Yeah, I have the theory that they are like UAP drones, like they're they're especially the smaller ones, you know, the smaller they get, the probably more dangerous. Actually, but a lot of the sightings over nuclear sites were actually orange red orbs, right, So I think I've seen the red ones. Yeah, I've seen the red ones. And in that footage I got with the six in the semi circle,
there's also a red orb on the way on the right. I didn't even make a note because it's so small, but I could see it, and it's there, it's noticeable. But I just it's in my mind that they have red orbs with them as well. A little ball, just a little
ball, red ball, but smaller, much smaller than the others. I think of them always having maybe different purposes that, of course we don't know, but you can't see some patterns like the red orange ones tend to be near the military sites, and the blue ones have been associated with actual harm to people, so the smaller blue ones, and there are some sphares that have been identified coming out of saucers. Yeah, so when you say harm
to people harmed, I haven't heard anything. There's been some some effects of radiation. Oh yeah, so getting too close to any of these objects, I would say those things. Yeah, yes, there's some there's been some risk related to that. And I have also heard that experiencers have some other medical issues related to their encounters. Have you had any medical issues that stand out to you, for instance, like a compromise immune system. I've had
a couple. Yeah, Actually my immune system is off the scale. They told me. It's very good. I don't catch vinces or flu anything, never had cold, never had flu, never get chest infections or anything like that. And so meet the doctor says, whatever you're doing, keep doing it because your immune system is great. So that's no. I don't stuff with that. But I have had something removed from my jaw. It was
a little hard metal thing. And went to the dentist and he said, well, did you have any teeth things done or anything, And I said, well, I did have a pin put in my tooth. And he's as well, I think they might have left something there. You better go back and check with the same dentists. So he was really annoyed. He says, I didn't leave anything in there there. He said, we used two milimeter pins. He took a photo. He said, there's still a
two millimeter pin there. He said, I don't know what that is. It's a little round thing. I can see it, he said, but I don't know what that is. So I went back to the surgeon because they were arguing who was going to pay for the operation, because it was going to have to be paid for. And I went back to the other dentists and I said, he said he didn't do it. So he said, well, it's got to come out. So I ended up pain for myself. So I said, okay. So he tried to take it out.
He said that what we can do is either take your tooth out or I can I said, oh, you have to take my tooth out. He said, there's nothing even wrong with your tooth. This is what I can do. It's going to be extra work, but I'll go in under the tooth, down by the gum. So he did that. When he went in there cut me open. He said the thing was entwined with all my nerves in my face, all my facial nerves all around were entwined in this thing. And he said, oh my god, if I can't get
that out, you be paralyzed or whatever. And I said, well, what we're going to do. He said, what I can do is it's a little operation, but it will work. We'll cut out a bit of your bone, put a rubber thing in there. When your bone goes back, it will push the rubber thing to knock this thing out off my nerves and away from the nerves, and then he can take it as something to that effect and it would push it away from there, which it did happen.
I went in four months later. It was pushed away from my nerves. He said he never saw anything like it in his life. He didn't know what it was, but he sucked it up in the thing, so I never got to see what this little thing was. He just thought it was. He thought the other genders possibly left something in there, but he swore he didn't, so he just suck it out anyway. But I was left paralyzed with my face for four months. That novocaine never wore off.
And Darryl Simms, I think he said this is one of the side effects that happened. And I did contact him about it at the time and it sat in my face, you know, and he suggests a contact a UF or researcher. Yeah. I was gonna say, there's been a lot of back and forth about whether or not it's a good idea to take those implants out. Wouldn't take them, not, never again. I wouldn't had something
removed from my leg as well. When I was little, my mother found a little hard lump on my leg and took me to sing about it. And that was a little metal thing as well, and they had to cut my legs. There's no incision where it went in, nothing that scratches, no cuts, but they took this thing out. So I have a scar on my leg where they sliced me and took it out. And again my mom said she doesn't know what it was. It was a piece of glass
or something, or a piece of metal. She doesn't know when you fell over or something. But you know, a lot of people are a little unhappy with how those samples are taken care of. So if you ever, yeah, if you ever discover one again, find someone you trust to get the analyzed if you can, because there's been a lot of issues with those samples disappearing when you give it to someone to analyze, and then you're never exactly Yeah, well, they seem to know every Aliens seem to know where
I'm going all the time. Because there's an occasion where I was going to see Lank and they caught craft following my plane and I stopped in Dubai for four hours and caught another plane and I caught some uf I was following the other plane as well. And that night at the villa, I was taking a video of the moon because it's upside down over there in Asia, it's really funny. So I was, you know, taking and I technic video of the moon, and there was a UFO underneath the moon, just in
the sphere shaped and white or craft there just underneath the moon there. I didn't even notice it till a year later, but that means they knew where I was going, They knew what time my flights were, they knew I stopped in Dubai for four hours and then knew where the villa was. I couldn't get my head around this when I sort of put it in words, you know, this is what actually happened, and after the implant was taken out before oh after, this is only recently. This is only yea after.
So I mean, I think they're definitely doing some monitor so that definitely answers part of what's going on. I think that's what it sounds like. And I would like to get back to the subject that I said we'd get back to you, since I know we're running out of time. Even though this is all extremely fascinating. Of course, I would like to talk a little bit about the entities, if that's okay. And I'm saying entities because a lot of people are debating about what those are. You're saying that you
feel that they're alien, and alien could be a general term. Some people think there could be interdimensional, some people think they're extraterrestrial. It's really I think they could be both. You know that That's where I'm at with that, But could you please well, yeah, alien probably the same as extraterrestrial.
When you say or is it alien to this planet? Depends on what your thoughts about the world is, what you think about aliens alien, I would say anything that's not from this planet, and they would be extra terrestrial as well, wouldn't they? And I have very strong feeling that they're from a galaxy called Sculpture Galaxy. It was just in my head one morning when I woke up Sculpter, Sculptor or Sculpter and what the hell am I saying
this over and over my mind? For I looked it up, and it is a galaxy and it's I think I had in my mind fifteen million like years away. But having able to find that much information on there is a bit on it, not too much, but that's where I think they're from. They have a way of getting here. They're not flying here through space, and like we say, you know, people say interdimensional. I really don't know. I'm going for the galaxy because this is what's in my mind.
This is what they've told me. This is what I've always had in my mind. And when it's that strong, I found it. It's reliable with me. So I tend not to fill in any blanks myself or what I think. I tried to stick keep on mind to the facts. This is what I know, this is what I saw, this is what they said. I haven't said anything more. So I mean I could listen to lows stories and maybe fill my head with other things and think, well that's fits, that fits, this fits, But I really don't do that.
So I tend not to listen to too many other people's experiences. So I don't want to just I just don't add anything into mind that I think. I think that we're a danger of doing that. We all do that and we think, well, that sounds like a fit, and that exactly happened to me, so that must be right, you know. So I think we're all in danger doing that, so I try not to do that. So I haven't really listened to many people's experiences for a long time. Quite
I know. I was going to say, it'd be quite great if you found someone else who's who met the same entities. Yeah, I think there's a lot of the things that I'm saying are very similar to a lot of people as well. You know, people pointed out to me our zones that's this, and it means that there are people being contacted as well and getting the same information as I'm getting, and maybe they've been drip fed as well,
and it's so slow with the information. I really want to sit down with ET's and have big, long conversations and why this and why that? And I want to know why the planets in such a state. If they've been here such a long time, as I suspect they have been. It could be thousands of years, could be hundreds, but I do think they've been here a very long time. Maybe not coming and going, but I do think they've had influence definitely in the past. So well, why are
there people? Yeah, definitely a lot of people agree with you on that one. So why are they allowing the planet to be run the way it is. Why are people's slaves continually the poorer, the sick, the needy, And we've got these globalists in place, so you know, it's been going on for centuries now. So I asked questions like this, Why aren't you helping things like that? We aren't you helping ill people and the diseases? It seems to be getting worse rather than better, you know, people
would canter was one in fifty years ago when I was young. Now it's one and two. I actually think of it in terms of if they're trying to just cohabitate, you know, but they have superior technology. They they don't necessarily, I think, want dominion over us. They might actually be using us for perhaps something populating another planet. It sounds like that seems to be what I'm hearing. But I feel like we're almost like a fishball,
does that like? And they're just observing and they're not messing so much with the fish ball, but they want to be in the fishball too. A fish Why are they interfering and some people my life and people's lives if they want to be a fish pole and what are they doing? Are they I thought to myself, is it something that they're tracing from years ago? Maybe they're tracing a certain DNA. But then it would be my family wouldn't know if it was to do with the DNA. Why would we just one person
in the family. I mean, we do have that rare blood group that runs in a family. I'm all negative and the grandmother mum's parents are all negative and ab negative, so that runs through. Not all of us have its, some of us HAVEVAGE and so people suggest maybe that's something they're interested in. I have never heard much about that negative. Yeah, I don't have too much on that. Yeah, I don't think so as well, it's something people say. So there's been all sorts of theories asn't there really,
But I don't think I've heard the right one yet. I think I think more information. I'm getting more information all the time. And it's like it's not a voice, It's it's like a knowing. I'll ask a question and I'll wake up in the morning and I'll know the answer and it's like a definite answer. I just know it's right. I just know it's true, and it's like I knew I knew it from before, like I've just remembered it, you know, like it's in my memory already. It's like
I just remembered it. It's interesting. There's a book called American Cosmic because one of the experiencers described it that way. The knowledge that he got was like a memory. He said, it was like, yeah, it was like just like a memory. It was like he already knew. So could you please describe before? Since I know we're running a little over soon, I can tell, but I wanted to give you a chance to describe the entities that you saw and let people know what you're seeing, what you witnessed.
Well, I only remember the two when I was younger, and the beings that came were blonde hair beings with lovely blue clothes, and they were beautiful. I just remember them. Beautiful, really lovely faces, lovely eyes, lovely skin, lovely hair, golden hair, lovely golden hair. And there used to be about five of them. And when I saw the light beings there were five of them as well. So they were coming during my
early years, and that's what I used to call them. People. I used to say, I'm among the people are coming to people are coming out of the wall, people are coming out of the wall, and she's always wondering why people are coming out them all all the time. So that seemed to fade away in my very in my young years, probably when I was about eight, i'd say that they went away or seven even, and then
I just got scary. It just got scary for me, and I just thought it was creepy, and I just thought there was something really creepy in my room that I didn't want to see. So I wouldn't look at them. And I did feel them in the room, but I just didn't want to see them. I just always thought I got really evil feeling and scary, like go away and leave me alone, or I was that kind of attitude. And then I'm mean, it's changed over my life. Now I
love them. I see these very loving and I can't believe I was so scared for that long time. And whether, yeah, I was going to say, is it possible that you were encountering more than one? Differently? People have said that to me. What's the likelihood of that They're saying there are I don't know, twenty eight different types of beings. I don't know whether I believe that coming here and I just thought the chances of one race coming here is phenomenal and well, in our you know, realm and our
way of thinking, that would be phenomenal. But the chances of two different galaxies, it's three different galaxies coming here, what are the chances? I just think it's too phenomenal. So I'd like to think they're all the same unless I find out otherwise. But I can't believe the evil feeling I used to get before. Why didn't they stop that and make me feel love instead of evil? Or they could have controlled that? Probably, well, something
to think about. Even on our own planet. We have multiple species, yeah, is it? I mean I think that there's something. I get the sense that there's definitely even within some of these species that people are describing different motivations. So just something to think about. Oh, there's lots to
think about, isn't it. Yes, Yes, lots for sure. So I had I wanted to ask you one final question before we have to wrap up, but I just wanted to I don't want to take too much more of your time, but I wanted to ask about the impression that a lot of experiencers have been getting that there's a sense of something coming, and I was wondering if you also feel that in what you think that might be. I think for me it's an eminent disclosure, So I was wondering, I'll
definitely feel that. I felt that for about a year now. That's something that's going to happen very soon. I think it's this year. I think it's soon enough to be this year, and it is something major. I think it will be in some major kind of disclosure. As I said before, the aliens and UFOs, they were so secretive, so secretive for years, and now they don't care who sees them. It's like they're coming out
everywhere, all over the place, and people are seeing them. They're getting captures with their phones and all sorts, and they're all similar types as well that people are saying so well, I think definitely it is coming to the time where they want to be seen and they want to be known, and the message they want out there is that they are very loving and not hostile at all. I wouldn't say they're hostile whatsoever, and that's the message they
want me to bring forth. Anyway, I know that much. That's one thing I do know. To let people know they are not hostile. But what they can do as well. They can do a lot of things that we would find hostile. Like they can read your thoughts, hear your thoughts. They can separate your spirit from your being. If they want to abduct you, they can take your spirit rather than your whole physical being. It's another thing they can do. So these things are very scary for people and
would be very, you know, found very intrusive. I've lived with it, but I definitely know it's true because the way they interact with me, and it's to the second and so precise, and the timing and everything else. So I've asked for signs for things and within minutes I'll get and so I know they're connected to my thoughts straight away. So I know they understand me, and so there's no reason for them not to communicate with me if
they If they've been here this long, they know everything about us. They've been examining us and testing us and researching us and all sorts for so long. I'm sure they can speak every single language if they want to, and they can do amazing things and can definitely communicate. Definitely. Yeah, I think we're all possibly And this is what I was alluding to earlier is why things are happening in the way they are possibly evolve into a point to meet
that communication. So I think that maybe what happens, I think that some people are just reaching that point in evolution. And I think that's what Gary Nolan's examination of the brains kind of indicated that some people have a little bit more in that realm. They're more able to see these things that other people
may not be able to perceive. So I know what we do have to wrap up because you know, I don't want to take up all of your time, but I wanted to say, if you get a message for me, please let me know, because my communication with our visitors or guests or co inhabitants hasn't been very clear, So let me know. You know, yes, definitely, yes, yes. And then in the meantime, could you please let people know where they can find you on Twitter Maris UFOs or
Marie Underscore Kali. They can find me on YouTube Marie's UFOs. They just type em Rai's UFOs will come up. And I've got several UFO videos on there and I put them on straight away as soon as I get them. If I get them today. They go on today, so it's all up to date. Haven't had any sightings since June. Yeah, June, so I'm just from now. As soon as the spring comes all starch filming, I should get some of the next couple of weeks. Yeah, I thank
you. Definitely are going to get more for sure this year. So thank you. I wanted to say thank you once again for coming and talking to me. This has been Dev's data Dojo, part of the Calling All Beings podcast network. I can be found at study of UAPs, ufo connector dot com. I'm also available on LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook, and of course on the YouTube for Calling All Beings. Thank you very much, thank you very much, thank you very much. You've been fabulous. Thank you, thank you. Bye.