Can I get it here man tonight? Amen for calling all beings about to launch next work on the Untold network. That's what I'm saying. That's where you're going find us next week. But right now I am your host DJ along with the money Money money man, I can I don't even hear any change hitting the floor because it's all paper can producer of the joy, Thank Courtney like that one, money Nathan, Happy Wednesday, welcome to calling on being as good to be back with you guys. Ready to do this show?
It is a good one tonight. Yes, sir, we're gonna do this thing, but we can't do it before men the superstar in waiting, the person that everybody in this in this community need to need to give it. Oh, then there's Mick right here needs to give a little bit of this for home Ee the researcher Debs. I was just talking about her today with James I and Dolly and yeah another for high Debs. Hi. Hi, I had a great revelation today when I got out of the shower.
Guess what it was. I'm not as much of a jerk as you thought. No, I'm not. I was trans medium Undershower. I don't know is that I got out of the shower and I realized I am now trans medium. I was having fun with it. Love it, I love it. I love it. And here's another person to know how to have a good time, another researcher. And we call this young lady the Intrepid.
She's gone from this coast to that coast, to the north and Alaska and back in south and East and she got a farm over there in Pennsylvania. Just making me go, let me see some of that. And that is Courtney Connecting. Yo, yo, yo, what's up. Cabby's good to be back, glad. I made the breakneck speed marathon race to be here tonight for this. Yes, awesome guest. Yeah you were like in the bandit Yeah, where was Dom DeLuise? I don't know. That is awesome
Courtney Connected. Yeah, making breakneck speed back from the East coast to her place in Montana, which is just such a cool Nathan. Wouldn't it be cool just to say you live in Montana. I'm dying to visit. I've not had a chance to give you guys have to come out here. You guys have to come out here. We got to have a Montana a Cabby party. I love it. Yeah, we'll go visit Alizondo. Lou Man, fire up the grill, Man, I don't want to hear the j'rens
keto. Die. Let's go man. He's not far away, He's not far away, all right, Nathan, I think it's time this brother right here. Uh. It is his second trip in the cab. No fair at all. He doesn't even have to borrow any crypto from Courtney and I just really dig this guy. His passion. You know, we talk about he and his colleagues that then inspire ups and he's such a nice person. I can never forget driving home from work when I was at Hurlbird and having
my first conversation with with Darcy. No problem picking up the phone. So this man right here, director of many films, we're to get an idea of what he's just put out and what he has coming up next. Uh. He's just a brilliant guy. So part of people put those him together for the director of USOS and trans medium, Darcy wit hey Man. Hello, Darcy hey thanks for having me in the cab today. Dude, it
is awesome. It's awesome to have you back. Uh. We know last time you had a conflict and you had You're like, it's okay for reschedule, Like, hell, yeah, we're gonna reschedule for you, are you. Of course we're going to reschedule for my Canadian brother. Thank you, Darcy. You know, I was trying to think about what my opening question was gonna be for you today from somebody who's done a lot of interviews, who's been asked everything, and I wanted to kind of get to the yeah,
yeah, I've been asked anything. What you're gonna come up with? But I wanted to kind of get down to a root. And I kind of thought about the community after being at that conference, of that virtual conference this last weekend, and the question I had was about emotion, because I see different emotions that motivate people in the community to do what they do. To some people, it's maybe an indignance about being lied to. To some people, that emotion is anger. To some people, it's a sense of
wonder. So I'm very curious because of the work you do takes so much work, it takes money, it takes an investment in time and putting your artwork out there. What is the root emotion that drives you toward doing what you do. Curiosity, I think curiosity is what I'm trying to feed, and there's all kinds of emotions involved with what I'm producing, you know.
I want to understand the phenomenon more, and I want to understand what's being withheld from the public in terms of secrecies surrounding technology or non human intelligence, that type of thing. But yeah, i'd say, like from a young age, I've always just been curious about these things, and I've always thought there's more to life than just I guess what we're told. And so people
may call that like a belief. I've told people before that I'm atheist and I don't believe there's anything more than just what we have here this existence, and I'm not hoping for pearly gates or hopefully not a fiery hell. But I think while I'm here, I want to answer questions that I have about what's going on with our reality, and with these documentaries, I'm trying to
find the answers. I'm trying to figure it out. But yeah, the truth is a lot harder to come by these days, just due to everything that's going on. So I think other emotions that can be felt are disappointment and yeah, anger and frustration, resentment, all that stuff comes with trying to understand this phenomenon and just the truth surrounding our reality. Interesting, So curiosity was the prime motivator. Before we go any further, I just want
to say welcome back, Julie. It's good to have you. Carolina's in the house. So Hi, Carolina of Caro and Counters. And Nathaniel, how are you? Sir? Can I get aim and let me let me pass over? I appreciate that that answer is curiosity is a prime motivator. Let's let's pass over to money, Nathan. Yeah, Darcy, I want to talk about the film real quick and let me put a put an image on the screen. So this is your most recent film, trans Medium Fast
Movers and us USOS inside the Navy's USO Fast Mover program. And you know you mentioned behind this this, you know, backstage that you had had a chance to interview Tim Galadette. He appears in the film, and just help great of a guy. You know, Tim is to participate in this show, and I was wondering if you could speak a little bit too. You know, you've worked with a lot of different folks that have you know, been witnesses or or provided their interview, and some of those people willingly come
forward, and some of those people are really reluctant to come forward. And then you have the other element too, that once you get in touch with them, once you have those interviews in person, sitting down with them or over zoom or whatever it may be, there are things they're willing to tell to tell you that can go on camera that you can put in the film,
and there are things that they might tell you that you can't. So I wonder if you could talk a little bit to, you know, as a filmmaker, kind of the maybe the struggle or or or maybe even the excitement of having those opportunities to speak with people like Tim who feel like they, you know, they're pretty close to interesting information, and you know, what is it like kind of getting those tidbits from him, both the official
ones and maybe even some of those unofficial nuggets that you get to learn just in the process of getting to know someone and getting to hear things that they're willing to share with you. Sure, So I think the main thing is that I got to talk with him about this subject. Right, So, initially, I had no idea if he was going to agree to meet with me. I'm in Canada, So I was saying before DJ jumped on that I flew from Canada to Washington, d C. To meet with Tim Galladett.
And you know, I didn't even have a list of questions for him to pre screen or anything. He just said he would meet with me, and we agreed at a low and I set up the cameras and everything, and he just walked in. I miked them up and I had my amount of time that he agreed to speak with me, and we were off to the races. I was asking as many questions as I could that I thought seemed relevant to what's going on in our oceans. And you know the mysteries
surrounding UAP and USOS, which are the same thing. You know, it's just the trans medium nature that they can go from our atmosphere to the oceans without being affected by typical physics and frictions that our aircraft or objects would be subjected to. And yeah, I mean, like once I started, once I got home from that trip, I stayed in communication with him and I got to editing, and you know, it's exciting the process of putting together
a story like that where you know, you have really interesting testimony. You know, for the few of you that have seen the doc I think deb you had mentioned you watched it. But you know, I try to make my documentaries not just all about the UFO phenomenon, but also about the education of certain things that happened within the UFO phenomenon or the environment that the UFO
phenomenon occurs in. So in this The Oceans, Tim Galladett broke down all kinds of facts about the ocean that I didn't even know, and I illustrated that with three D, three D animation and all kinds of graphics to make it very digestible so people could comprehend these things about the ocean that you know, people don't generally get exposed to. And then when I'm you know, done, I've made a cut of the film that I'm pretty happy with. I send it to him and I say, hey, like, this is
the cut that I've come up with. Can you watch it? Can you you know, let me know what you think. Do you approve of it? Because I don't want to publish something that a person's completely against, right,
And he got back to me and said, I loved it. You did a really good job with all the information I gave and the testimony from Richard Dolan, Mark D'Antonio, you know, Chris Stiles, Louis Borges, a bunch of and Andy Marciel who is a friend from New York that was part of the leaked Department of Homeland Security UAP videos that I featured at the end. So yeah, you get a bit of anxiety when you get to a point where you've got like a final cut and you're kind of clearing that
with the people that are involved. You know. Richard Dolan wrote back said it was a good film, but this, this and this, and I'm like, yeah, well, I'm a one man army here. I don't really have the James Fox budget or say some of these bigger players in the documentary game. And you know, you do what you can with what you have, and that's what I've been doing the whole time. I've been content creating in the space. And yeah, so I hope that answers your question,
Nathan. Yeah, no, it's fantastic. Thank you. Deb Okay, so this isn't the question that my only question, but I have to ask this question. So you've covered space, and for anyone who hasn't watched your documentary on the space UFO issue, that it was phenomenally well researched. And then you've covered the ocean and you provide a lot of information about USO is being seen there. What's next? Because I feel like it should be underground bases like that is another big aspect. Is it gonna be land?
Are you gonna do land next? Well? Deb I started with the very first documentary that I put together with my friend Lee Lustig was called The Underground and it's about like underground bases, Phil Schneider's testimony, Richard Souder, who wrote like three different books about underground bases. He wrote Hidden in Plain Sight
and a whole bunch of other stuff, really interesting guy. And Richard Dolan was actually featured in my very first documentary back in the day, which I just did over Skype and colorized it and whatever I could do to make it passable quality wise. But I think the thing about underground bases is they're the
greatest unknown and they're probably one of the crown jewels of secrecy. To do with this whole subject, I mean, that's an asset that the militaries of the world would not want to give up to the public in any way. It's where they're going to be keeping things as quiet and out of sight and out of sound as possible. Right, So that's where the alleged you know, reverse engineering programs could be taking place and housing et craft and stuff like
that. So I would love to do another documentary about underground bases, but I think what I'm actually doing is kind of continuing on with the trans medium thesis. And you know, full disclosure, I'm pretty good friends with Andy Marciel now the guy who leaked the rubber Duck footage, La Bruja footage and the A ten warthog footage. Great Yeah, from the Department of Homeland Security
agent, and we stayed in touch. He's actually originally from Puerto Rico, and Puerto Rico's hotbed for not only UFO like USO encounters, but just it's a really anomalist area at the edge of this alleged Bermuda triangle. And so we agreed to fly out there, and we teamed up with a long time UFO journalist and researcher, and we got some really interesting interviews. We got a boots on the ground investigation with a whistleblower from that area of the world,
and that's what the next documentary's on. I love that. I love his work, and I actually might try to get you to connect us to He got that border patrol agent had viewed thousands of hours of censor video to come up with his hypothesis that and that's why I laugh when people go, oh, that's nothing, it's this, it's that, it's that, And it's like, you don't understand what it's like to do to take an eight hour shift in front of a sensor, staring at that all day, and
how the level of familiarity that you have with what is prosaic and what's anomalist that you're looking at through that soda straw. That is a answer. And that guy picked Andy, and that is shows says a lot about him. It really does. So I'm so glad that you connected with him. Yeah.
The interesting thing about Andy is that he is an experiencer himself. So he got involved with the UFO subject after he saw one quite close in proximity two times in his life, and that's why he set up his platform for discussion about UAPs and stuff, and his instagram is called ny UAP Discussion and yeah, so the Department of Homeland Security Agent took notice of what Andy was doing. And you know, I am I'm skeptical. Okay, Corty's probably
even seen that. With Jason Sands that recently came forward. I have skeptical questions and I'm not gonna believe every single thing that comes out from alleged whistleblowers, although I do respect them for coming to the public and facing the fire. You know, Andy is one of these people that just does not take any bs, fights with people, like you know, calls them names, blocks, deletes, like all this stuff. So he's got a really fiery
personality and on his platform. I think the Department of Homeland Security agent liked that and saw that this guy really is trying to fight for the best truth represented in this subject. And that's why the guy reached out to him and
they started talking over a course of like two months. And I think the honorable thing about Andy is that he took the time instead of just like I guess, he did do a slow drip of release of that footage, but he also went about it in a certain way where he wanted to honor the footage in the best way by getting it properly scrutinized by scientists. So he took it to SEU Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies and Peter really and those guys
really poured over it. And the interesting thing is that, you know, when you look at the tic TAC footage or you look at the go Fast footage which Tim Galladette actually was exposed to, right, it's only about a minute or shorter right in length, maybe a little bit longer than a minute some of this footage. But his footage that he got from the DHS agent is like forty minutes or you know, like forty minutes of the actual UAP
out of an hour long Flear footage. And I believe it was shot on an MX fifteen system, which is like a state of the art Flear camera system that are Customs and Border Patrol the United States employees to track things like cartels, illegal immigrants, anything they don't want coming over the border without you know, it being legal. And so it was kind of unprecedent, unprecedented
in that respect. And yeah, he took to Twitter, he got the fire just like Jason Sands did, and he actually deleted his account and just kind of like rage quit that side of things. So I guess, you
know, the trolls kind of won in that respect. And I think the difference between him and somebody like Jason Sands is that, you know, Jason had been interviewed by apparently Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp and obviously Hospoolhard, James Fox, all these people, and you know, you've got some really good representation there, and Andy was on his own when the fire came at him.
People at the debrief completely dropped him when he was going back at it with them, I believe they stopped representing him and he was on his own. But you know, in Jason Sand's case, you've got like Captain America James Fox flying in and giving his testimony, you got Grandpa George Knapp dropping in and thumping some debunkers, and then you got, you know, to round it out with Jeremy Corbel and all these people vouching for him. So
he's luckier. I'd say, I kind of feel bad for the way Andy got treated, but it comes with the territory, and that's what this subject attracts. It attracts deep skepticism, and it should because we want the best truth to prevail in the end. Right Yeah, And I just want to say to the audience here so you can see here, here's a link to Darcy's films. Will have this in the show notes. He has how many is it twenty one movies that you have? How many movies do you have?
I uh, I just say more than fifteen future line docs? Yeah, yes, So he's got a serious amount of work there, Nathan, Can I throw this up there? Can I? There? It is trans medium, fast movers and usos. We're going to get into it, but not before my homegirl right there, Courtney Connected gets her chance. Yes, ma'am. Hey Jarsy, I love that you're thinking about doing the Bermuda Triangle. It's a long time fascination I've had since I've been a kid. I
love Charles Bullet Berlitz. I went out to his place in mon Talk, you know, and researched him and his interest in it. So good for you for going down that rabbit hole because I love it. Excited to see what you'll come up with. I wanted to ask you about your talk with Tim Galladay and he's said, you know, he's basically weighing in. I haven't seen the documentary yet, but I will watch it. One of the things I picked up from the Soul symposium was and Kevin Kanuth, Doctor Kanuth
talked about the problem with the water. He said that we have a really hard time tracking these in the water because we don't have good sensor data. So I'm just wondering, can you enlighten us at all with something Tim might have said in the documentary that you picked up about the future directions of sensors underneath the water for these types of vehicles. Sure, you know. Since interviewing him in the documentary, he's also given a bit more testimony regarding this.
We appeared on an interview with The Big Thing podcast, and what he said was that he's fairly certain that a lot of this listening data and tracking data that happens in the ocean from the USGS or the Navy probably goes through John Hopkins University, but it's all deeply classified material. And he was he's right now apparently going through the process of getting his clearance security clearance possibly reinstated, so that he can explore that information, because you would need a security
clearance to get read into that information, right. But in terms of technology what we do use you have the SOSIS net, which is seabed microphones that are laid throughout the oceans around North America, and the allies that are coordinate with that, you know, Australia and Britain and so on, Canada,
the United States. And then you've got ocean buoys that the Navy uses and other commercial sort of sea traffic related government assets that are trying to like make sure ocean ways are safe and secure for transportation of goods and so on. They also have, like both commercial and military, would be ocean gliders, which are kind of like a autonomous drone that uses the different water levels of the ocean and as it glides, it powers itself and continues to circum circumnavigate
the ocean and monitor what's in the ocean. But on the grands game, in the grand scheme of them things in terms of science and a unified knowledge of what's in our oceans, in terms of published data, there's so many unknowns. Like don't listen to Bill Nelson because he'll say, we don't even know what's on the far side of the Moon or dark side in a recent
interview. I don't know if you caught that deb on Twitter, but and we have tons of mapping of the Moon from Project Clementine and the Lunar Orbiter and all kinds of stuff throughout the decades. So I don't know why he said that. But the ocean only about twenty five percent of the actual ocean bed, meaning the floor has been mapped, and less than twenty five percent has been mapped with modern technological processes. We started mapping in the eighteen hundreds,
so some of that stuff might be outdated, right. And then in terms of the whole ocean volume, like the actual ocean levels going right down to the Abyss, we've only about we've only really mapped about five percent of that. So that's a huge unknown in terms of the mainstream scientific knowledge in the scientific community, whether there's a lot more data that's been squirreled away and held by these were repositories at John Hopkins University, that's deeply classified. I
don't know. But this is coming from again Tim Galladet, who was the chief oceanographer for the for seven years. He also worked for Noah as you know, director of their oceanography and out of the seven years, he's you know, thirty two years career in the Navy, So I think he knows what he's talking about. I think that's a good bet because the Navy actually he represented the Navy at Noah as well as part of at least for a
part of his career, which is you know, pretty extraordinary. Guy's a two star admiral, I believe, two star rear admiral, and that you know, there's more questions just about Tim, but I'm this kind of came up in my mind because of the couple of movies that you've done on Space,
The fast Walkers. The last time we had you on about that film, and this came up for me and I obviously I was, you know, messaging with the cabbys on this, but that guy bart Sebral was on with Rogan, and apparently they think, like Joe Rogan is equipped to discuss the moon landing as if he's some sort of you know, he's able to intake all the ins and outs of of uh, not only the data and analyze all the facts instead of saying, oh, that looks like it's BS
or something like that that picture or why is armstrong acting like that at the debrief, It's like, well do it. He just got back from space. He's like literally the most famous guy on our planet at the moment, like he's and he's from like Wapa Caneta, Ohio. He's like sick of
this. So but I'd love to get your take, is there if you were to talk to someone like bart sebral all that you've seen and studied and we established last time you're on cab how deeply you study these things when you do a movie that this was not a hoax or that you obviously you believe it's real. I would assume because you've done movies about it. What did you find compelling from an evidentiary standpoint? Okay, that we did land on
the moon. So essentially, if you don't believe we landed on the moon, do you also believe that we haven't been to space? Okay? And if we haven't been to space, what kind of satellite systems are broadcasting? You know, half of our data around the world right now, most of
it goes under the ocean through cables like fiber optic cables. But it's it's kind of it's almost like a psyop that works against the American or the Western world to believe that we didn't go to the Moon, because then you're not going to pry and want to know more about the Moon. If you believe that we never went there in the first place, it makes your population stupid. It makes people believe dumb and lazy conspiracies, as if they haven't done
any historical or scientific investigation into what we've done in space. And if you think about it this way too, a lot of the technological advancements, especially with computer technology, came from the Apollo space program and all space programs.
They're trying to test out technologies that are cutting edge, you know. And in terms of us landing on the Moon, I think that the obvious thing is that we sent people in these capsules, like the progression of going to the moon the way to slowly understand our abilities technologically and figure out how to
get to the moon. It makes sense going from the X fifteen mission, which is directly going into space for the first time in like a kind of like a virgin galactic based plane lower Earth orbit, right then that those are the first astronauts, right, first pilots that were designated astronauts and actually buzz
Aldrin was one of the X fifteen mission pilots. Then you progress to the Mercury missions, which is a capsule that's in orbit outside of the atmosphere, and they're testing out how do how do we survive in a capsule and get back into the atmosphere and get back, you know, back into our living
quarters on Earth. Then the Gemini missions, which are called the Bridge to the Moon, where they're testing out how to go through cys lunar space, like how to get close to the Moon, get out there in the depths of space around Earth, and then do EDAs extra vehicular activities, which you don your spacesuit, you open the capsule door, and you do stuff in
open space. So they're testing out all these you know, slow breakthroughs to get to their epic, which is landing man on that rock that's floating outside of Earth. And there's all kinds of reasons that we have been there, and that we possibly have been going there secretly, but with technologies that are not dependent on fossil fuel rockets or hydrogen rocket technology. I think it's very possible that some of these UFOs that we've seen throughout history are actually space vehicles
that are space worthy that you know we've possibly gone into space with. And I think this is where you get into conspiracy land because there's just not enough information. And when when you talk about landing on the Moon, we know that look, all of these different pilots albeing edgar Mitchell, buzz Aldrin, Neil Armstrong. You basically have to agree that a whole scientific organization that's employed and spent you know, billions and brillions of dollars at this time over the
decades, has lied to the public about going to the Moon. And everyone in mission control that's tracking the telemetry, that's experiencing failures, that's calling out, hey, we need to repoint those antennas, we've lost comms. So you know, the buzz all that's all that's all faked for just for the
cameras. Yeah, and a lot of that data was actually classified for like, for example, just the transcripts of the flight recorder, like the black box recorder from all those missions, that was classified for twelve years after the Apolloment missions ended. So they're also lying about classifying information. Why would they classify information and at all if it was all just fake? You know, So I think also what works against people believing that we went to the moon
Russian propaganda. The Russians said, well, we couldn't do it, so therefore the Americans didn't and they're lying to everybody. And that is dangerous propaganda because it just sows just you know, distrust with the government from the American people and even you know, Canadians and everybody is at an all time distrust of our governments in the Western world right now. And you got to wonder
who is that serving. Is that serving the people that live in the country, or is you know, is that serving a foreign government that's trying to make us stupid and hate each other more than likely? All right, let's get to money, Nathan. We get about twenty minutes left, so go
ahead, money. Yeah. I want to follow that threat a little bit further because it is so topical, and that's the issue of you know, sort of our challenge with the truth today and the prevalence and sort of rapid spread of disinformation, misinformation just content Generally easy it is to create content of any kind. I think we've seen a lot of you know, sort of
UFO videos that just don't seem to pass the smell test or whatever. And I wonder, as a filmmaker yourself, you know, how do you see kind of navigating through all of that material and being able to present a you know, kind of a really cogent, truthful narrative that how do you you know, what is your own yardstick that you used to judge that something is you know, valid or just you know somebody's uh, you know, AI
generated material and that material knowing that material is only going to get better and better too, okay, in terms of like UFO or USO videos or something like that. I mean, that is the greatest It's it's the greatest feat to overcome these days. Right, Like you said, we just have the most advanced CGI, and with artificial intelligence aiding and creating that, it makes it harder for you to believe what you're looking at. Well, it makes
it easier to believe what you're looking at, right. But I always look at a lot of the stuff is historical, right, So I'm trying to go back and look at footage film of UFOs or old camp quarter footage that's recorded, you know. And then the other thing, which is the most compelling thing is everything that's come out since twenty seventeen. These are state of
the art Fleer systems, right. And you've got guys like Dave Falch who poured or he's a repair man for Fleer systems that are equipped on Customs border patrol planes and you know, similar to these fighter jets like the F eighteens that were swooped in to intercept the tic TAC and the go fast and so on and so forth. So that footage, that leaked footage, a lot of people will be skeptical and try to debunk Elizondo. And you've got Mick
West saying, trust me, bro, it's a failure. It's a failure of three different systems with three different points of the Fleer system in order for that optical illusion of a TIC TAC to show up where it's like the exhaust of a plane or it's a balloon. Right. And then you've got like Defaultch that actually understand the technology because they repair it, and they're stepping up to the plate and saying, wait a second, this is the Flear system.
This is what it's capable of. This is what a balloon looks like in it. This is what the exhaust of a fighter jet looks like in it. And this is what the UAP looks like in it, So it obviously is not one of those things Mick West is declaring it to be. So that is like the sort of measuring or yardstick is like having footage that comes from a verifiable source like that, and it's gonna be fewer and farther, get harder to come by. You know. Does Jeremy Corbel have more
of that footage? Does does Luel Zondo have more of that footage? Apparently? You know? And why why do you they have that footage? Because lou had access to it when he was part of ASoP and the a tip program and that stuff was taken out of it and leaked, right, Why does Jeremy Corbel get this footage? Because people that work within the military or four different security agencies within the United States think he's a credible source to leak
this stuff and they've leaked it to him. The same thing happened with Andy Marciel with this DHS agent. And the other thing about that too, with that case with the DHS agent is that you have the factor in that Department of Homeland Security has a whole team of people that are looking at this footage and they've filed that footage away in a what the fuck is this folder? And because they've done that, that's already one level up of scrutinizing the evidence
for being real authentic UAP. Because these people deal day in, day out with stuff they recognize as cartel activity, illegal immigrant activity, or just civilian drones that are flying over the border and so on and so forth, they know what to debunk right away. So the fact that that stuff got filed away and then a few videos got leaked through Andy and then it got further
scrutinized by credible research Group SEU, that's important. That's the measuring stick that we need to sort of use when scrutinizing UAP videos, no doubt, man, And I think one of the worst moments for Dave is when he he, I don't know what he somehow befriended Mickwest shared the repair manual to the at Fleer and that's what gave Mick all the ammunition that he used to try to debunk the pilots and Dave felt and then Dave spent the next two years
trying to debunk mixed debunking of the pilots. But everybody. You know, we sometimes we trust people in these community. I've done it, obviously he did it, and then people will use the knowledge you gave them against the community somehow, and unfortunately that's that's what MW does. But here's someone who does awesome things in the community, and that is Debs. Yeah. I just wanted to comment that blue Book also had that folder. Those seven hundred
unexplained cases are the ones that didn't end up in that folder. So there's a folder that we don't know about still that went up to the higher ups, which is just an interesting part of blue Book. And that was according to people who worked for the blue Book, by the way, So AnyWho, I wanted to to ask about the submarines that you have featured at one point in your documentary. Yeah, you're talking to a special report fourteen oh.
No, Bluebook took some of the documents that they got, some of the reports that they got, and put them in a different area that went to the higher ups that people like RuPaul could not touch. They weren't allowed to do it. Interesting. Yeah, so I believe, and I spoke to Stanton Freeman about this. This is like featured in the Secret Space UFO's interview. But he said in nineteen fifty four, out of the overall Project blue Book, they segregated the most credible cases and they put that in what
is known as Project blue Book Special Report number fourteen. So people can look that up and that where you know, the United States Air Force is basically saying, Okay, the public knows about the Blue Book stuff, but for US Special Report fourteen, this is all the holy shit stuff. This is the Yeah, there's more normalist stuff. So if people look up that, they'll find out some pretty interesting stuff that they disclosed there. There were some
cases that they didn't even let them assess. They threw them in the trash can. They wouldn't even let them look through it. They wouldn't let them investigate it. So I wanted to ask about the submarine. I think it's the USS San Francisco. You mentioned it in the documentary. There's a picture of it. It was an interesting incident that had a brief blip in the media where people are like, what happens to the sub what did it hit? And then later on the response was, oh, they had old charts
and they hit a mountain in the ocean. So my question is do you think that sub got crumpled by hitting a mountain in the ocean and that all the people on the sub failed to see a large sea mass. I was going to say land masks inside the ocean. Yeah, I do actually think that they hit a sea mound, And I think that is actually the problem with the unknowns about the ocean, which Tim Galadet is trying to advocate for.
Be an advocate for not only in terms of the UAP subject, but better scientific data about our ocean bed and such, because you get accidents like that where the submarine crashes. I think one person died and multiple people were seriously injured, and that's because of outdated information about our oceans. So we do need better information to secure our oceans, especially from a Navy standpoint.
Cour Hey, So I'm not sure if you know about this case or not, but you know, Bob Maguire talks a lot about his time on a sub and that he had some type of wave that happened that came that was supposed to be anomalist. Have you investigated that case at all? So?
Yeah. In in the doc, Jim Goodall talks about I think it's the SS and seven sixty seven that an individual who was on their maiden journey in open sea on a submarine witnessed the USO and the sonar operator announced that that had been moving in excess of six hundred miles plus right in the oceans.
And just to give like food for thought to people about what we have in our known technology technology, our known arsenal, like an MK forty eight torpedo has the capability of creating super cavitation, which is like this steam bubble that's released from the tip of the torpedo. It creates an envelope and it allows the torpedo to not feel the friction of the water around it. Therefore can cut through the ocean at around maybe one hundred seventy miles per hour tops.
And the Russians have this too, right, Other navies have the capability of creating World powers have their submarines now equipped with super cavitation capable torpedoes. But when you're talking about six hundred miles plus, this is highly anomalous. We have our submarines, which is a large object, and sometimes these objects are being reported as large objects being picked up shooting through the ocean at those speeds, like a submarine size or a little bit less. That's an even greater
feat. You can't create super cavitation for a submarine because you'd have to create an envelope big enough to do that, and it's just it's pretty hard, right I would create you'd have to have anyways. So what I'm trying to say is a submarine's top speed is probably around thirty thirty nine to forty two miles per hour in the ocean. So what are these what are these objects? And essentially we're talking about a USO trans medium craft that's super powerful technologically.
If it's able to do that, is it some kind of black budget craft that we don't know about or is it a non human intelligence craft? And that's the type of thing I want to know. I don't know. And when I released just the trailer of my doc, Bob Maguire reached out to me and said, oh, just so you know, I'm the person that Jim Goodall was talking about that had that incident with the USO with the
supposed fast mover, right, and he's not the only person. Like Mark D'Antonio had that experience on his very first ride on a submarine, and he looked into it, and he found through interviewing all kinds of Navy submariners that that's a common occurrence, but it's just not something that's well reported. So there's probably a program called the fast Moover program nicknamed where they're documenting this stuff
and it's being stored away and classified and for reference. So when Darcy says one hundred and seventy miles an hour, that's about only about one hundred and forty seven knots. And then when they saw something going six hundred knots in miles per hour, that's about six hundred and ninety nearly seven hundred miles per hour. So that is going, you know, like you crossing the Atlantic Ocean with a decent tail wind in an airliner underwater and an enormous amount of
hydrodynamic drag that's present underwater. That's just that's incredible. So I know that was a TV show back in the seventies, but neither here nor there, Darcy. I got him a smile this time. I did it, Darcy, What is this kind of like my last question where I can do a whole round anymore because we've run out of time, But just what is is the greatest concern of Tim is it Is it the fact that there's a direct threat potentially to to craft that are undersea, or is it just a potential
threat kind of using the Louelizondo model, or is it the unknown? What is his biggest concern with what he knows? Because I realized he can't release certain things to you due to classification. But overall, what what did he express? So he released this white paper with the Soul Foundation. I really highly implore everybody to head over there and read it. It came out in March, and he's basically he's trying to attack this on three different fronts.
He wants better education in the mainstream scientifically about our oceans and about UAP and if there is an acknowledgment that there is a UAP phenomenon in our oceans, that are science mainstream scientific institutions like NOAH or the USGS are able to look at the ocean scientifically. With the caveat hey also, we should be expecting to experience UAP activity here and we should study that proactively. So that's one
prong. The other one is, you know, a security thing for sure, to be better equipped and to make sure that we don't have situations where we're running into seamounds with our submarines and and you know, we don't know, we're not as vulnerable. And then the uap uh phenomenon just straight at that is like what is this and what can we learn from it that will
empower the human race? Pretty much? Right? Beautiful? Yeah, So I think that's like, you know, that's pretty but he he does such a great job of breaking down the history of the UAP phenomenon and and the government breakthroughs basically in history recently with I mean a lot of people have been upset about the Schumer Amendment and the NDAA, but what people have to keep in mind is that this has never happened in history before in terms of government,
you know, interaction senators being read into this and these skiff environments and walking out being like oh yeah, oh my, can I wet myself? And so, you this is still pretty big, and I'm hopeful that there will be more legislation and engagement of this issue from a political standpoint, not only in the United States but hopefully their allies like Canada, Australia, Britain.
But you know, we just need to be patient and I think the UFO community is so fed up with like a cover up and an obfuscation of the facts about this phenomenon, especially with Arrow's report. Recently NASA dunking on all of it and saying there's nothing to see here. It obviously is disheartening, but there's still engagement on a government level now like never before, and
that might take the issue out of Arrow in NASA's hands. Right. Can I point out I think I'm correct here and I want everyone to understand this. Darcy has on his movie. I believe the highest ranking flag officer that we have ever seen come out and talk publicly about this topic in any film. I do not believe we have had a flag officer at the general or admiral rank ever come out on camera and talk about this. I believe you are the first. Can any deb Can you check me on that, Courtney?
I mean, we have generals, but this is different. It's amazing that he's out talking that we have an admiral. I don't think we have anybody at that rank that I can think of that's just come out of service that's talked about this. I can't think of anybody above like Colonel John Alexander probably and colonel Colonel Nell that that backed up David Grush. But I can't think of anybody at the at the flag officer rank up to the level of
general or admiral. So congratulations on that, Darcy, because those guys don't trust everybody. And it shows what a serious person you are. I think we can see that just seeing you here on camera. You're not a jokester like me. I don't think adn'tal Kelly to be like, who's this chuckle ahead, But you know you had to be a really serious person to impress him and allow you to turn the cameras on and film him and give you statements and information, and that I think that says a lot about you.
Because we have a super fan here named Mick who is from England, the Cabs superfan. We'd like to put this up there, Hey Darcy, Well, let me let Nathan read. He's the executive producer. Sure, all right, so thank thank you Mix for this question. So, hey Darcy, great work, brother. Question. What do you think about CE five or heis? So? I think that CE five is a marketing gimmick and it's been popularized by somebody who's been a leader in the UFO community for a
few decades now, right, that's obvious. But that modality where we try to engage with a greater force or intelligence or connect with something outside of our body and you know, communicate, bring them to us, so on, so forth. That's called meditation. And it's been around four thousands of years. You know, it comes from every culture. When you go to church, you pray, you're meditating. When you are a you know, Buddhist,
and you're meditating, you're practicing this same modality. You're concentrating, you're visualizing, you're communicating, and you're hoping to get some kind of interaction feedback from that. And so I think it's important. My form of meditation is concentrating on something on my phone, my computer. I probably should practice something
else than that. But that's what I think about C five. I'm glad that it's an interesting way for popularizing meditation towards a possible non human intelligence. But I don't think you need to subscribe to that certain methodology or pay for it. You can just meditate. I wish I could meditate and get a beard like Darcy's, because Nathan, do you think this is the number one beard we've ever seen on CAB. I think so top top beard for sure. Yeah, I'm glad you smile, Darcy. You gotta smile. Like
I said, he's a serious person. And getting getting a general officer to come on camera and talk about this and at the admiral rank and from a naval perspective is huge. And that's not that's not something that I can't think of another filmmakers. That shows how far we've come on the topic. And it also, in additions, says something about Darcy. So we're going to say, go about Darcy now, and then we're going to talk about the
Untold Radio Network where we can be found next week. So let's start with Cabby goodbye. Starting with either Courtney or her hair, whichever wants to speak first, I'll go Darcy. One of the things that you said that I really liked is my takeaway tonight is about honor, you know, about honorable
people doing good things. You talked about leaking of videos and other things, and so I think it's really great that you are in that position to handle some of that delicate work with the people that you work with in your film. So I just want to say thank you. For doing that and holding those people with honor and cherishing them because they're the ones that are helping lead
the way. So good for you and keep up the good work. Yeah, could you please name that that documentary about the Underground basis before I get to say goodbye because you didn't say the name and I have to go see it now. Yeah, it was. It's called Just give me a second, it's called The Underground. That's the name. It's twenty two one. Well that's easy to remember, okay. Darcy, thank you so much for sharing with us your journey into research and what you have found along the way.
As someone who also enjoys the reach research aspect, I greatly appreciate what you're doing and that you just are making sure all of the public has the ability to learn what you have learned. So thank you very much for what you do. Thank you Dad, Darsie. It's just been great to spend some time with you this evening, so thanks for giving us that bit of
your time. For folks who are curious about this subject, please go to Amazon Prime Video you can find Darcy's late latest film, trans Medium, Fast Movers and us USOS. As DJ has said, you know You're a very serious researcher and that comes through and your work and and the way you comport
yourself and I really applaud that. I think it's it's it's easy to get swept up in the sort of high speculation in this field, but keeping that kind of beam narrow and really sticking to your your principles there is super important. And as a result, you've kind of been able to become a trustee for some of these individuals willing to talk to you, and and we need more of that. We need more folks who are willing to to kind of push the envelope there and and and be champions in that way. So thank
you so much for what you're doing. I'm sure that it's it's it's got its ups, and it's down the path that you've chosen here, but we really very much appreciate the work that you're doing. Thanks Sathan, appreciate the feedback. Yeah, Darcy, just to h tackle onto that, it's kind of like when you know, when Dev mentioned that about Bluebook and you just
showed your chops right there. You know that you're you were on it, and you had you had heard of this, you had researched it and we're very very proud to have you on the show that you would take your time to join us, and we hope that you'll do so again. Well, we'll make sure to throw the links up there for throw it up on screen. Who could one more time? Trans medium fast movies and usos. We all saw that, we got to see this and we just saw it back
when the first time you were going to come on. But you're your folks from Christy Newton's. Can you give me the name of their agency there that promotes your work? Oh? Yeah, Vocabs. Chrissy was helping me get the word out about this documentary, although she doesn't talk to me anymore, so maybe she's mad. I don't know. Oh, I didn't know that because they were they were so kind. They did provide us her one for assistance, provided us a link and let us watch it. And I loved
it. And what you're able to do, like you said, on a limited budget, I thought was great. So thank you so much, and I hope you'll come back and join us another time. Thank you really appreciate you having me on. Sorry, Yeah, it's been been a crazy month. I've been going through a move and everything's it's all happening. Let's see what happens with the UFO subject and stick together, absolutely stick together, and
it's in good hands with you and we'll see you next time. All right, cheers, all right, guys, money Nathan, throw it up on the screen and give you all until Radio Network. Yes, suriyes surire we go until Radio Network. So yeah, this is the last show that we're doing where you will find us on our Calling All Beings YouTube channel, and our future shows will be hosted on the Untold Radio Network channel. We'll be
of course providing links to those shows on our Calling All Beings YouTube. All of the episodes that we've done so far, all one hundred almost you know, twenty ish plus episodes, they'll all still be there, archived on the site and available to watch should you want to catch those great cab moments of the past, like the one where Jim Simi Van You know that we've all heard of them talking about aliens on this planet. It's just absolutely crazy.
So all that content will still be there, and we'll be providing links to our content that is broadcast through the Untold Radio Network. We're excited to be part of that network and enjoy, you know, sort of the reach that it has, and also be a participant amongst the list of shows that are already in that network and it's continuing to grow. You'll be able to subscribe to that not only on YouTube, but also your sort of podcast, you know, of a choice, your podcast co later. I don't know what
the right term is there, but podcatcher perhaps there. Yeah, any anywhere you listen to podcasts, you'll be able to find us there. And we'll have a regularly scheduled time as well. And the great thing about that is a lot of the shows that we're going to be doing with the network will be recorded, so we're going to shift our format just a little bit.
Not not always, but sometimes we'll do recorded shows. And what that allows us to do is when they broadcast on the Untold Radio network, YouTube cabbies can be in the audience sort of chatting with folks that are also watching the show and interacting with our audience in a way that we just can't quite do on the live shows because we're you know, focusing on the next question we want to ask, or you know, really paying attention to the guests.
So all these things are just sort of little bits about what what's going on with that partnership, and we're excited to be to be joining them and excited to see what the future holds for for Cab and Nathan. If I could share screen, I can, just I can show like their shows. Sure, let me see if I can, I'll hit present and then is it share screen? Right? Yeah? And then select one to share which window? This one? Okay, okay, hopefully everybody can see that. So
this is Untold Network. You can see over here where it says Untold Radio AM. That's Doug Hicheck and his son Alex Hichek, the producer director of Monster Quest and History Channel shows. He's the flagship show. And then you can see down there Grasping Sasquatch, Discover Sasquatch. There's a lot of the Sasquatch shows on here. Barnaby Jones is fantastic. I don't know if he's
from Wisconsin or Minnesota, as he does Bigfoot. He's a big Foot field researcher and paranormal coffee Time Mysterious. This is doctor Dean Bertrum who lives in Nebraska, but he hails from New Zealand and you will hear that when you hear him speak and talking weird. He was on today Weird Encounters I haven't
heard of yet. Down South Anomalies with Jay Katz and his wife Aspasia from down Under and they are fantastic, wonderful human beings, full of light, Wide Open Research with doctor Russ Jones and Brad Keenan, the engineer Pine Island Research. I believe his name is Jeff, I can't remember his last name. Big Full and Influencers is a friend of ours. That's Tim Hellerin and his wife Dana, Monsters on the Edge with that's Barnaby Jones' other show,
and this one's really good. Jim Myers from Colorado is a fantastic researcher out there. Where's the boy hat grew up somewhere in Africa I can't remember. Might have been Ethiopia, I can't remember where he grew up, but fantastic guy. So those are the shows. Plus big Foot Mapping Project is coming up with a guy that we had on what was his name, Oh, Scott Tompkins, the GIS guy. He was on the Cab round Table, Bigfoot round Table and then calling All beings will be added to this as well.
So, like Nathan said, you can find you can find it on your podcast purveyor. And we'll still be we still have our Twitter account, we'll be posting about these that are broadcasting, So we're not really going anywhere. We're just sort of changing the way in which our content is distributed. And j as you mentioned, with all those shows, one of the things
that's kind of notably lacking is real focus on UFO. So we're excited to be bringing that subject to the Untold Radio Network and bringing those folks that have an interest in that subject along with us and growing that audience of interest as well. So just a really exciting opportunity. And I think we're gonna sort of see the new chapter of CAB be a really positive one. Yeah, yes, ma'am please, both you guys. I want to comment for Yes
ma'am please. I just wanted to say, it's like the sedan that we were tiring is now going to be a limo and we'll have room for more people to come into the CAB. Can I get amend my own girl Courtney Connected boys, You're gonna have a lot for you guys this upcoming year. I'm excited about the opportunity to do you know, this leading edge, this leading edge with Untold and being able to create you know, all this great content for them and to see how it takes off. It's really exciting.
I love starting something new always. Yeah, they're very excited about us. I think for the reasons that Nathan said, because they wanted to get more UFO content. Doug himself, Doug Hichek, who owns the network, is an experiencer of UFO's. He and his wife on multiple occasions paranormal and in his home, and he also has had a couple of bigfoot encounters. And I gotta tell you guys, he take a yearly. He takes a seaplane to northern Minnesota, lands on a lake where they have do not have X
fill from this place. They get resupplied there and literally in order to get out of here, they have to call on a satellite phone because there's no cell service. He has a cabin and the bigfoots come up and slap on the cabin. He took Remember Adam Colt we had on who did that thirty days in the woods. He went out to the cabin and had the health scare with Doug. Last year, so they're gonna go up again this year. So it's wild. Doug is just you know, he's in his sixties
and he just doesn't care. He wants to have these experiences. And his son Alex is like, no, I'm good. I don't want to go dad, We're good anyway. So yeah, the reason we tell you all this is because we don't want you to flip on the YouTube next week and see that it's not been updated, or look at your podcast and go, oh, there's no new Cab episode. So Julia will be here. We'll be here, but you're gonna have to go and subscribe to untold Radio.
If you can throw that up one more time on your podcast apps, can you throw that up there? Sorry I dropped it and put it back Untold Radio Network. You can find it on any of your podcast app or go to YouTube and subscribe to untold Radio. The night that they've given us to broadcast is Thursday, because every other night of the week they have another show. In fact, tonight is the night that Doug is broadcasting, which is
why we couldn't have Wednesday. So we're gonna try to be live as normal, but we can't be live there it is Untold Radio Network, so you can find that on YouTube, please subscribe to it and on any of your podcast apps, and we will be every Cabby will be throwing this out on their social media and tweeting to hashtag uap X, so that way you can find our YouTube and you can you know, we can all pick a different
podcast pre veyor and throw it out there. So we will do premieres when we can't make it on Thursday, but we're going to try to be here Thursday as we can. But if we can't, then the difference is is you'll see it premiere and then we'll be in the chat talking trash with you guys, and you can ask questions and have us answer in real time. And Nathan, you know, he might even stroke his beard while he's asking a question. Always man, Darcy Man, that beard was incredibly brilliant,
right, absolutely epic beard. Did you think so, Corney? I think yes, it really was. I think he was number one, So Jules, thank you so much, everybody. Any final parting shots before we take off, Cabbies. I was disappointed that Darcy didn't comment on speaking to a trans medium person one time in and out of the shower. Just incredible. I know I was, like I told everyone I was trans medium. Nothing. Whatever. I'll be your trans medium friend, you know. Thank you.
I appreciate that. Hey, stay gold, stay gold, pony girl. That's all I have to say. All Right, we are the outsiders. Uh, it just so happens that sometimes we're inside a cab. Thank you so much everybody for joining us. Say when again the changes? DJ? Okay, so Julie, the change will be next week, so Thursday. Yeah, I guess we should talk about who we have on the first guest that we'll have on until radio network. Let's let's talk about that.
Yeah. Yeah, he's really hurting for Twitter followers, where's yet? No, Nathan over three million No, I'm sorry. Youtubebscribe subscribers, subscribers, Carl, Carl the Crusher Andreasen, who was on Vinnie Adams v R e F Virtual Conference last weekend, has over three million YouTube subscribers. I will have the list of countries that combined do not equal Carl the Crushers, and we will recite that for Carl because he had literally he has a million more
since last time we had him on. He's crushing it what he does just what he does. That's de You just stole Dev's line. That was that would have been Dev's line if you didn't take you passed it to me. So yeah, very excited to have Carl and that'll be his second time on the show. It's been a long time since we've had He's one of our earlier guests and he was so gracious to uh to spend time with us when we were just kind of getting ourselves started. So excited to catch up with
him. He's been really busy doing lots of field research at various places. I know he's got a lot to say. So it's going to be a great first episode on I'm told. Also, should we announce that we booked his research partner, Chris Bartel Skinwalker Ranch in the US Air Forces Chris Bartel, who will be back at the ranch by the way. Nice did you know? Yeah? I did not know. That's great. You have to mention to Chris Bartell that I'm the crazy lady that offered him my house from
Montana. Yeah, come here. Yeah, I was christ you need a place to stay in Montana, like stay at my house? And he was like, can I take you up on that? So now now he'll know that's your cat. He will. I'm sure he's going to recognize you when he comes on here. So he's book for July third, I think because he is. I think that's why, because he is going out to the ranch I believe in June or something. So those guys are how do how
do you say it? Do you know any you guys might know? So let me just ask, do you guys know anybody who's doing more field research in UFO topic than those two? Like field research? Toby Martinez does a lot all in New Mexico. Yes, he goes out with people, looks at things that are going on in the Roswell area. Yeah, because Tim went out with him. Our friend Tim from All Things Unexplained went out with
Toby, and man, Tim, Tim's a wild man. I'm not I'm not even gonna get Tim's experience out there, but let's just say he's he's a he's a special person. I'm so, I'm great. He did go out and he did find some pieces of metal and stuff like that. But Tim is he's just he's wild. I loved Tim and he did show up in the chat today. He is the one who connected us up with who's the one that he connects. Oh, he's the one who got us Thomas
Winterton. So uh he connected us with Kirby Dixon of History Channel. YEP, with our friends from all Things unexplained. Yes, all yeah, we're gonna have them on for another just kind of a get together with all three of uh Smitty cj and and and Tim And that'll be cool. I either think, yeah, because Courtney met Tim and she hasn't met the other the other two, but they're they're they're fun. So that's all we got for you tonight. But we've got a lot of grace great guests coming up.
Most notably is Carl Andreas Carl the Crusher, gonna be here next Thursday night for our debut on the Untold Radio Network. Jules, thank you, my dear. I appreciate it. She's saying something about redheads fuck. Julie is just she's like, man, she's just so witty like her her wit exceeds mine like times four. So anyway, Oh, and I Duncan is saying something in French. Anybody here it looks like French Canadian? Man, hopefully
what's that? It's nice? Thank you? All right, deb Nathan's you know, you had the you had the wit just knocked out for it tonight. But now Nathan's trying to like wrestle it back from you. So it's almost like Nathan's a genius. Whatever will I do? I'm okay, I'm okay with it. Oh man, you guys were awesome tonight. Uh. From the moment that you got out of the shower and went into the next medium, deb you've just been killing it. So for uh, for for
Courtney and Deb's and money. Nathan is a de Jay saying peace out, one love, We'll see you down the road. We're always wondering what's up around the Bend.