#3 - David John Lanier - Experiencer Testimony

As y'all forget it. Yes, welcome back to Calling All Beings. I'm your host, DJ san Marco here with you on a Wednesday night with another special guest. We keep bringing you dope people. I mean, and when I say dope, I don't mean in the way that you guys think of me as dope, which is in the actual sense of the word. I mean dopeidelic people. All Right, So I'm your host, DJ, said Marco, along with my co host, the amazing, the not to be

compared, the deep, the thoughtful, the intellectual Nathan. What's up at and now let's get to what's really going down tonight. You know, there's been a lot of stories that you guys have heard. People have shared their experiences with the phenomenon with Beings, most most recently Angelie, who's probably also been in contact with our next guest from the Alabama part of people. Put

your hands together for David John Lanier, WHOA he's my bob brother. Yes, and let me tell you something, David, there are gonna be some very deep and intelligent questions tonight, and you're going to find that most of them will come from me. Okay, the more shallow sort of meaningless stuff that would be Nathan. So let me just give you an example. Oh my god, David, where are You'll be back? He'll be back. I'm sure he'll be back. He's gonna keep going, he'll be back.

Well, no, I can't keep going because he needs to be there for you know what, you know when you he's coming back. He's back. Now, there is. It's good man, It's all good. So so as I was saying that the deeper and more thoughtful questions will more than likely come from me, and I'll just give you a sampling right here. So David, tell us what happened. No, I'm just kidding. I knew

you'd love that, Nathan. Okay, And with that, I'm going to turn it over to my aforementioned brilliant co host Nathan to kick this off. Brother. Yes, thank you to Jay. David. Great to have you with us this evening. We are very very fortunate to have you on the show, and I'm looking forward to hearing your story. As we've talked with you before, we want to make sure that you feel comfortable and feel a part of our family when you're on the show, and so we're going to

do this in the way that you want to do it. I know we've talked a little bit about kind of where we want to go with the show, and and and kind of the direction that we want to go. And so I think we'll get started here and maybe you can do a little introduction, tell it, Tell folks what what you want them to know about you, and then let's start with where things got really going for you in the late nineties. Okay, can you guys hear me? Okay, yeah,

sound great. I mean, as far as my personal background, I don't have I don't fly FA eighteens, I didn't work for the government. I don't have incredible you know, backstory. I've I'm married, I had a family young, I worked in real estate for the last twenty years on different levels, you know. I played music for a while and I read. Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, I've accomplished some pretty cool things, but I don't want to really wave that around as a way to convince people

that I'm not full of it and incredible. I mean, I'm willing to answer any questions you know, or or what have you if people have them, but I don't really feel like, you know, bragging on myself to make myself sound credible. You know, I'm a pretty ordinary dude, I guess, aside from whatever the hell happened. But you know, I'm I'm just wanting to talk about it because I really do have faith in this disclosure

movement that's happening right now. I wasn't a part of ufology for a long time because it's so convoluted and and and I you know, I was involved for a little bit and then I left, and now I'm back in it because I really feel like there's there's people making some smart moves and and and getting the ball rolling. And I just kind of feel like I've got this thing that happened to me, and I've told some people, but I haven't

really done it in a public way. I've left little bits and pieces on Twitter, but I haven't just kind of like sat down and told the whole story. And you guys were nice enough to approach me and let me do that. So that's why I'm here. And and with with that correct with that credit that we've built up, does that mean that you'll play guitar for us to close out the show? Hell? Okay, okay, all right, next time? And Nathan back to you excellent, excellent, excellent.

We'll work on our little ensemble piece for the next show. I think that'll be great. So, David, where do you uh? You know, again, we really appreciate having you on, and I know this is not easy to do, and so we don't take that lightly. But where,

you know, where does the story really start for you? Let me preface all of it by saying, I'm fully like I have one foot in the normal world where my parents and my in laws are very educated, hardworking people on you know, the family on both sides doesn't get into this kind of stuff, and I respect that, and there's a part of of my life,

of our lives that doesn't really want that in it. But then there's another part that, you know, I went through it, and I'm fully aware of how absolutely crazy this sounds to just the average person who just got off work or that has other things going on, and there are other things going on in the world. So I just want to preface it by saying that that I'm fully aware of how crazy this all sounds. You know, I listened to Ryan Bledsoe today, David, and when you listen to his

story in this background, it's not very different from your background. You know, the you know guys from the south, you know, fathers out hunting doing things like that, fishing, and these things happen, so nobody in the town is like, oh wow, you must be absolutely out of your mind. If we're in Dona, Arizona, people might go, oh wow, that happened. Wow they believe right, But that's you know, it's just a function of where you grew up. But please go ahead, sir.

No, uh, you know, I'll just go ahead and get into it because I was going to go for it. There's just so much I could say. And it's a lot like this. This story covers about three years roughly, and it covers my wife, my children, my mother, my brother in law, me, some acquaintances. So it's hard to tell. And I do kind of want my privacy to maintain a little you know.

Again, I'll answer questions, but I'm not I don't want like skeptics and debunkers and researchers and investigators like right, but trying to find out if my mom who is who she says she is or I you know, all that kind of stuff, right, So saying that I'll get into it, okay, So nineteen ninety seven. I'm I'm seventeen years old, and I'm a straight arrow kid. I might have smoked a joint, like a couple of puffs off of one, had half a beer, and passed out.

I was I was a good kid. This would have been like ninety seven, and I was on the way home from a concert and it was an outdoor concert, so this would have been like late spring, early summer, summertime around that time. And there's a friend in the car with me, and we're driving home. We're going north up the interstate. We get off the ramp and you know, I looked to my right, you know,

you look to your left, liot right. It's a two way highway and a small town and there's this blimp that's you know, I'm not a great judge of like how far away things are, how close things are, how high they are. I'm going to roughly estimate that it's probably three to five miles away, and it's over the city, and it's not terribly high off of the horizon, like I'm not having to crane my neck. You know. It's I can see it out the windshield, and it's a blimp.

It looks about the size of a blimp, maybe a little bigger, and it's got a little cap on the bottom of it, and I think, I just I remember this vividly because a lot of I stop myself because I know people are like, well, you know, memory degrades over time, and it does. But like, I don't remember what I had for lunch at my grandmother's funeral, but I remember seeing the body of the casket.

You know, things stick out. So I see this little cap on the bottom of it, and I think the thing's awful small for the people. And then I noticed that it has the same cap on top of it. Oh awesome, So we were lost at cap on top, cap on bottom. Yes, you know, doesn't necessarily lend itself to it a limp, looks like. So that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, you know, are good. Yeah, we're good. Welcome back, man, Okay, we lost you on the size of the cap on the and you were talking about

on the bottom as well as on the top. Yes, there was a there was a cap on the bottom of it. Too small for people. I was confused, same cap was on top of it. And then the whole thing is about is shaped like a blimp, you know, or or like a liquid advil. Yeah. Oh, thing like oblong, kind of stretched out and it has like two grooves carved out in the side of it,

or like two intentions in the side of it. And it's just moving peculiar, you know, like a like a there's a there's an airport near my house, and small planes will kind of like bank this way or bank that way, or up or down, and they have like a you know, and this was just like a steady, just slow moving across the horizon. And all the while this thing is flashing like multiple colors, like I can't explain it. It's just like it almost looks holographic. Yeah, And

so the whole surface of the object is doing that. Yeah, And it's giving off this like purple pink, reddish hue. And it's also emanating red light, so you know the way a Christmas light looks from a distance, and it has points of light that come off of it. Yep, it had that. It had several kind of points of light that were coming off of it. And it's just kind of moving just slow and steady, and I'm sitting there and it just, you know, in all of these thoughts

are coming to me. Over the course of about five seconds that I'm watching it go and I just go, and what were those thoughts? It was just processing when I saw it, just going like is that a limp? Why does why is the why is that so small? Why is it multiple colors? Why is it blowing red light? And then I thought, and I have to preface before I say this, I was not into Star Trek, I was not into Star Wars. I was not into conspiracy theories.

There was no reason for me to be thinking anything other than like I saw some episode on the Unsolved Mysteries in the eighties or early nineties, or I had seen like an alien movie, and I just thought to myself, like, is that a UFO? And there's all the while, you know, my friend was next to me in the car. And as soon as I thought that, and I'm not saying it's connected, but as soon as I thought that, that thing just went. I mean, it took off like

it had been shot out of a gun. It just went from like slowly moving to just suddenly, like in the blink of an eye, just this tracer. Because it was at night, it's probably about twelve thirty am. And then there's like this I left that out twelve thirty am, right,

ok, yeah, give thirty minutes. And it's just this tracer, this red tracer just stretches across the horizon and you can see it way off at the end of the tracer and it's like a bulb, and then all the way back to where it was is just a point, just a tip, and it looks like a sperm that's just been like stretched out. Yeah, it might be an analogy, but that's what I thought when I saw it. Sure, and then the tail closed up behind it about this fast.

And it's interesting the tale. As soon as the tale closed up behind it, it was just a twinkling red light like a star or a planet, you know, same level on the horizon, Like it was just on a level and it just got twinkled and got dimn and then it was just gone. It just disappointed. And I looked at my friend and he looks at me. And for the researchers and skeptics and debunkers and investigators, I haven't

talked to that guy in twenty years. I'm not just gonna cold talk him out of the blue and be like, hey man, you remember this, because I got people from UFO Twitter line. But hey, David, can I can I can I interject for a second. Don't worry about refutations of anybody or trying to qualify based on any skeptic or any idiot that's out there that just likes to get on there and tell people they lie or something.

We don't care. We're here at interviews, So just tell your story and don't even worry about qualify because I have zero worry about these people and their and their thoughts. So let's just let's hear from I want to hear from you, Okay, okay, okay. So my friend turns to me and I turned to him, and I can't remember if I said her he said he said, was that a you know? Dot? And we just laughed hysterically, just laughing, and I remember thinking, like, man, I

just like won the lottery or got struck by lightning. Like I realized that this was a U f U. I don't know what that meant, but but you know, I just was like, Oh, this is like the movies or like the you know, unsolved mysteries or something, and I'm just one of these people that just happened to be privy to it. I just caught it, you know, and it did feel like it had been caught, you know, like I've seen it at twelve thirty night, pooting around

and it just went Did you stop the car and all that business? Or were you just watched them through the windshield? I was at the top of the exit, you know how when you get off Interstate off an exit, n you get to like the top of the exit and you kind of have to sit there for a minute, check traffic both ways. It out parked, Okay, got it? So so a pretty brief encounter, you would say, just a few seconds or yeah, it's literally probably within ten fifteen

seconds. Wow, that's a lot longer than mine was. And you know what, See there's something and Nathan, there's something to be said for him stopping at those off ramps. A guy like me that blows through that stop sign just kind of rolls through. I missed the UFO. Well yeah, no, it's please obey local traffic laws. Yeah, and if you do that, what could happen? You might see up? Yeah, you're your back, don't Okay, I don't know what's going on. I don't know

if that's on my end. I assume it is. Yeah, do you have two nets in your house? Do you have h like I have two nets? Do you have two different nets? And maybe your wife is using one and streaming and then if you go on the other net. No, I'm out at the lake. I'm out at the lake house. And okay, it's kind of I'm the only one out here, so it's no problem. You're not gone for long. So anytime you leave, it's just a

chance for DJ to interject. You know what, I haven't talked to David yet about buying uh, you know, maybe five of those one hundred acres, but that's going to come after the show. Please continue, Please continue. Yeah, so like one acre? No, okay, So so when that happened, I don't remember the drive home. I remember dropping him off, I don't remember driving home. I don't remember discussing it. But then

again, this was like twenty years ago. Over twenty years ago, okay, So I just don't recall it. I'm not saying there was anything weird there. I do remember going to school the next day and you know, talking to my friends about it, and you know, fifty percent of the people were like nowhere, and then the other fifty percent were like that's weird, tell me more. And and I didn't obsess over it. I that, you know. I just kind of was like, wow, that's neat.

But I didn't become a conspiracy guy. I didn't become obsessed with sci fi. I I just kind of went on with my life and it didn't affect me. Mh. So that was, you know, the first sighting, and it coincides with something else that was going on in my life that's later down the road that I can get later because I don't want to jump around the story. So fast forward ten years okay, two thousand and seven, seventeen, Wait, two thousand and seven, two thousand and seven.

Sorry, Yeah, I'm working the late shift at my job and the guy that was with me and just asked me a question out of the blue. He's like, hey, man, what do you think about UFOs? So, you know, ten years past, I don't really, it's not a part of my life. I don't I don't think about it. I uh. And he says, what do you think about UFOs? And I'm saying, well, you know, the universe is a big place. There's exo

planets. I guess it's you know, it's possible and then suddenly that whole scenario of seeing that UFO just came like rushing back into my memory and I

was like, oh my god, like I've seen one. And so he gets me to tell the story, and I relay the same thing I just told you guys, and you know, then he tells a story about something he had seen, and on a small tangent, I have found that in these little discussions I have with people, you know, about five out of ten people will have some kind of like paranormal story to tell and the other five know somebody. So it's really not uncommon. I just don't think a

lot of people talk about it. Yeah, people don't. He suggests to me. He was like, have you ever listened to Coast to Coast AM. I'm like A. He's like, you should listen to it and you should look into the subject, especially since you've seen one. I'm like, okay. So on the way home, I listened to Coast to Coast AM and it's I think it's Dolores Cannon and she's talking about the Indigo children, and I'm just kind of going like, what, like what am I hearing?

And the next day I google it. I just google like UFO and the first thing that comes up at the top of the search is bibbles are Ye. And so again I'm coming into this subject knowing nothing, okay, nothing other than the fact that I've seen something I'm not still I didn't even watch Star Wars until I was in my you know, mid twenties. I

just this is off my radar took. So I watched the Bubblesar documentary and I'm just like my mouth my jaws like on the floor, Like, you know, I don't have an army of debunkers telling me this guy's full of it. I'm just listening to this guy tell a story. I'm not sensing any you know, lies. And he's like, yeah, you know, aliens are real. Government knows we have access to their craft, and I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I think they had something to do with

our creation. And I was, oh, wow, did he say that? Yeah? You know his I think you know his. The way he tells it is that he's not sure or what disinformation he was fed and what information he was fed, right, but he was briefed on that that's six hundred thousand years ago. They came here and integrated their DNA into Homo sapiens and about every six hundred years would come back and upgrade and upgrade, and here we are and they're still kind of coming around and tinkering, and so

I have no context for this information. Yeah, I'm right, No, go ahead, kick, I was just gonna say, I just want to just go around. So the voice you're hearing and the experience you're hearing is that of David John Lanier, our guest. He's going to talk about his experience both seeing and standing in front of interacting in his house with beings. My co host, of course, is the amazing Nathan at a Wave Soul and I'm djsen Marco, your erstwhile host. Please continue. So you know,

I have no context for any of this. I'm not into euthology. I don't know that he did he really did? He not? Remember, I'm just listening to this guy talk and I'm going like, Holy mother, like is this for real? Because I'm seeing more like i've seen a UFO and it actually, you know, the one I saw kind of sounds like

something he just described. Is that what's going on? Because like I was raised in a Christian home, you know, I left Christianity became nihilists, study Buddhism, you know, experiment with psychedelics, just trying to figure out like God in the universe, like what's going on. And I'm like, dude, that's it. It's aliens, So that might have something to do

with like everything else that is about to happen. You know where my mind went with that sure shift perspective, you know, that's what I'm thinking. And so that, you know, to get to the next part of the story, I start studying it. You know, I start studying the subject and I'm not like super in depth into it, but it's on my radar. And so around this time, I'm I have a music project on the side, and my brother in law, who's a cartoonist, is drawing the

album cover and he sends the album cover to me. I gave him the music. I said, draw whatever comes to mind. Just listen to the music. And so he draws a UFO and he was like, is this a good album cover? And I'm like, dude, no, I was like, what is it? You know, because I'm sitting here so unprompted. He didn't. You didn't ask him draw a UFL. You just drew

what came came to mind? Yeah, wow, yeah, And and so he sends this, I'm like, oh my god, you know, and and that's when I start picking up on the concept of like synchronicity, and so I'm going like, okay, wait, you know, because I'm also learning about like telepathy and Grays and Zeta particular and Betty and Barney Hill and all this kind of stuff. And now he sends me a drawing of UFOs and I'm like, this is not going well, Like where is this going?

So okay, this kind of thing goes on for a while. I don't know how long, because this was about two thousand and nine that I'm kind of going down this UFO rabbit hole. Yep, not again, not like super in depth. And I know, I just kind of jumped from two thousand and seven to two thousand and nine. But two thousand and nine is when, like the meat if this kind of started. Sure, And I'm downstairs in my basement folding close folding laund because of laund rooms downstairs,

we have a little there was a little window. It's the old house next door to my new house. It's all in the same property. And I look out the window and there's this light and it's just kind of like looks

like it's moving around like this. And then there's two other smaller lights kind of moving around near it, and I'm like, no way, and I just get scared, like I'm like no, and I look out and I swear like one of the little lights flies up and touches the bigger one, and like just this appears into it, like just becomes one with this thing.

And I'm like, that's a star. That's I'm going crazy. And I ran upstairs and I look out the window in the blinds, and I'm kind of a little panicked, you know, because at this point my wife didn't know about any of this. This was kind of like just in the basement, you know, doing God's work down there, and she didn't know anything because she's like, what is it. I'm like, I think there's a UFO outside. She was like what. And so I look out the

window and it's moved from it's hard to explain. Let's move from here over here. Now, what is the size of the window we're looking at? Just to get your aspect, are you looking straight out? Are you looking up? I'm just like a sliding glass door it's a it's just a wooden door and it has a long rectangular window. Got it. And that picture I sent you of, like the one of the backyard that where the trees meet the sky the horizon is roughly high level, and it's right above the

horizon, not too high up above. And by the time I come upstairs to look out the window, it had moved from there to here, so it had gone over. And in my mind, I'm thinking, Okay, you've been reading about this. Apparently they're telepath let's test that out. And I say, if you can hear me fly down or I can't remember if I said fly down and fly up and fly over. I think this is in your mind, ort and your mind are out loud? Is in my mind, you know, because I was sitting there and I don't want her

to think I'm nuts. I'm just like, uh, you know, fly up. And there's a tree that's in my line of vision, so there's branches, and I just see this thing go like up past the branches and I'm like, oh, And then I'm like, if you can hear me fly over, you know, and again in relation to the branches, it's going like and it'll kind of move over and I just freak out and I just shut the blinds and then it's like, what are you looking at?

And she comes over and she looks out the window and I and I just see this, like her muscles in the back of her neck just go like, you know, like chills kind of thing. And she was like, I don't see. And if you knew my wife, you you would know that she's like the queen of just like there's work to be done and I'm not dealing with this right block it out? Hey, David, can can you give us an approximate size of this object compared to either just what you

think or relative to the other one you saw? The first one? Big? Oh? So this this is a big one, I would assume. Like again, I'm not an aviator, I'm not an aeronautics expert, so I'm not a good judge of distance and height and size. It was far away, and that's kind of the key part of the story, Okay, is it's far away. I don't know if it's not in your yard. That's what I'm saying. Again, he'll be back, I know. You know what, though, I'll tell you what I'm willing to upgrade his internet

service. You know, just when you're out of the lake, it happens sometimes, Hey, this happened. You know what. I would like to have lake house problems, right exactly. I would like to have a lake house. I would like to have one hundred acres of wooded land in Alabama. And I'm sorry, Nathan, bring back, bring me. It's all good, all right, No, it's fine, man, Okay, I was dreaming about lake property. It's okay, okay, all right, I'm back location. I'm back exactly what I said, Area fifty one. Yeah,

it's all good. Go ahead. So as far as how big it was, I'm guessing it's it's sizeable, like not like enormous. I don't mean like mothership, but like it's not one of these smaller kind of things that that some people see, like you know, that's you know, roughly the size a little bit bigger than a sedan, but just like a disc. Okay, it was bigger than that, h but not like you know, mothership kind of thing, but just a light, just like a white

light. You know. I just want to say, just because I haven't heard too many of these, but Angeli's confidant. Nick Larkin said he and his mother in the backyard saw one the size of a football. So imagine, you know something comes in your yard it's the size of football and flies away. I mean that's bizarre, right, bizarre, I can imagine. Yeah, So Nick Larkin, what's up? Brother? Anjelie say hello to

David John Lanier. All right, let's go go ahead, brother, Okay, And so I I see that shiver go down my life's spine, and I'm like, she's sad, but she's not gonna admit to it, because that's the kind of woman she is, and I don't false her for that. We're all different. She gets back in the bed. I'm freaked out, like I'm seriously bothered, like disturbed, because this thing just responded to my request, and all this stuff I'm researching is suddenly like like is this

true? Is this real? I do take a hot shower until it runs cold, and then I come into the bedroom and watch Scrubs, which is an old TV show. It describes my sports career actually, But anyway, go ahead. I just needed I needed to laugh, and I needed to think about something else, and this sadly began about I don't know how long of me having to sleep with a light on in the room, grow out

with the night light. Okay. And I'm not came to admit that because I just telepathically communicated with a light in the sky that responded to my request. I'm freaking out. I'm a little disturbed. So this is the point where the story starts getting blurred because so much happened. M and I want to make the point that they approached me in phases, and the first phase was far away. It was lights in the upper atmosphere, you know, like I said, way off. I don't know how far, but way

off in the horizon. Small. I mean, I don't think they were small, but away, okay. And I saw I had moments like that, like that little story. I just told you so many times that I don't remember all of it. I do have video footage. I set up a tripod and I put my little This was two thousand and nine. I put my little two thousand and seven eight millimeter camera on a tripod because this was happening so frequently that I was like, I can film this. I

can prove to people this is happening. Because I feel like I'm going crazy, and you know, I went back and I looked at some of the footage, and as time went on, I did kind of go like, Okay, that's probably a scintillating star. That might be a helicopter, that might be a plane. I started that could be a space station, that might be a satellite. I started learning about what's in the area also,

and I'll go ahead, you know, full disclosure. I live forty minutes south of the Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, which is a major jet propulsion laboratory for NASA and meant for the army. So there's every chance, you know, Loue Alizondo was on a podcast recently saying there's AI being developed that's going to be able to tell and they've already run something through. It turns out

it was an army thing, So I mean, that's very possible. Rightly, it got closer and it got weirder, and I don't suspect military at that point, but initially it's far away, and some of the video footage I don't even remember taking it. As far as putting that out, I don't want to get hammered. You know, I'm a pretty sensitive person, and I don't want to get hammered by people that don't believe me, or that you know, are going to mock me and belittle me and try to

ruin my story. I'm kind of like believing me or not. I might put it out, but there's a couple of clips that are pretty interesting, one of which was during the day and I can tell you I do remember one of the daytime signings. I was, I was googling the occupation in Afghanistan and I was, you know, so as we lost him again. Yes, so, guys, we are calling all beings. I'm your host

DJSM Marco. This is my co host Nathan at a wave stole and our guest, Sorry Nathan, I was and I don't mean to say about it. And our guest is David John Lanier trying to tell his story. It's very difficult to tell these stories because frankly, probably most of the people that he tells don't believe him. And that's why I didn't tell my story for thirty some odd years. I know it's real. I don't need Mick West

or somebody to tell me what I saw. I saw something rise above the tree line in Sunday night in peak skill that lit up the entire sky. I mean that just blew my mind. Yeah, different colors, like yeah, yeah, totally. It looks like he's back. So we'll get it back back. And that is our aforementioned special guests, David John Lanier. We are calling all beings. We love you UFO Twitter, and David's here

to share his story. Please continue, sir. And by the way, sir h as far as sharing your your video, you don't have to share with anybody. You don't have to get affirmation on it. And one of the reasons I say that is a lot of the times it just doesn't show up on film the way it shows up. When your eye sees it, you see it, you know what you're looking at, and when it is, you kind of know it is. And it's not necessarily going to show up on film. It wasn't meant to be filmed. It's not man made,

it's not synthetic. So you know what I mean, So go for it, brother. One of the videos, one of the scenes I caught was during the daytime. I had multiple daytime sightings and one of which I was keeping up with the news about the occupation in Afghanistan and I was learning about civilian casualties and just the horrible stuff and just and I don't know why

I was looking at that. Oh I do know why. It had something to do with an art and with my art projects, and I was putting together a slide show for people, and there was a lot of you know, innocent civilian war casualties that were part of the slides. Maybe it had something to do with it. I don't know. But I started crying because I'm thefy and so I went outside and there was like the starring this guy, Like two three in the afternoon, there's a starring this guy. I'm

like, oh my god, it's one of those things. Run back inside to get a camera, run back out, it's gone. And that kind of thing happened multiple times, like something that looked like a hope can or something just sideways like this, it's not a satellite. Satellite aren't that low in the sky. You know. There were a couple of daytime sightings like that. Most of them were at nighttime. But again during this phase of it, it's far away. So again when I go back and look at

these videos, I don't even remember taking any of them halfway. And so this this whole part of the story just gets confusing. I don't. And it was ten years ago, you know, and so they got progressively closer these things. The first one I remember being really close. I just saw, you know, coming in at my house sits at a thousand feet above sea level. Wow, it's probably this thing's probably one hundred and fifty feet in the air. And it seems this red light in an orange light like

way far apart, coming right at me over the field. I don't have any recollection why I was outside or its approached. I just remember just the red light and orange light and they're far apart. I was like, that is a big ass plane not making any sound on the other side of the

trees. And then the orange light it turns it like pivots, and the red light kind of stays in one position, and the orange light goes like this, and then it flies directly over me and it's and then it turns a white light on on the other end, and I see it and it's a triangle. It's just this big black triangle, I mean, easily the size of my house, if not bigger, and it has this big protruding

like bowl off the bottom of it. I say, bowl because that's the shape, so you're kind of you were kind of at an off angle to it. Then you weren't directly underneath it. You could tell that well, yeah, I guess so, I guess. So it had like you could kind of it was like it was nighttime, but the moon was bright, and you could kind of see like this kind of silvery gray black metalitic sheen

to it at the bottom of it. On the big bowl that was off the bottom, it had like a series of holes, just black holes. I don't know. It was just a square grid of black holes on the bottom of his bowl. And then suddenly the grids light up and it just makes this pattern that's like brail. It looks like brail. And then they go through and all the lights go off, and then it goes boo and it makes another pattern that's different, still looks like brail. All the lights

go off. It does this like three or four times. So you're looking at the bottom of it. Now it's almost like hovering above your property. Yeah, it's hovering above me. I mean you're right above you, right above you. Yeah, it is a little offset like it's not directly but it's it's a little over m but I just think like that thing, whatever it is, is flashing lights at me right like, it's not it's it's it's waving at me. Is trying to Yeah, is your wife like is

she freaking out? Like are you freaking out? Oh? No, no, she was doing this is great. Hey, honey, get back in here. Your underwear is almost man again. All right. She might be on PlayStation three right now, that might be or on twitch. So okay, yeah, this is really interesting. Now imagine you're having a contact,

Nathan where you're like, right under craft. Yeah, no, it's hard to hard to imagine that for sure, a lot more visceral than what hey, if your wife's some PlayStation three, tell her that she can get kid. It's just I'm sorry, it's all good. I'm assuming that due to the data transfer, I've probably got like five ten minute windows before I fart out. No, it's all good. We're happy. I mean, like you've already I'm sorry, go ahead, and Nathan, because you well yeah,

so okay, So just a quick recap. So the experiences, the contact, the sightings, they've been increasing over time since two thousand and seven, when they you kind of had another experience with them, and now you've

got a large black triangle in the night sky. There's a moon out in the sky as well, but this triangle has a rounded, sort of glowing white bowl in the center of it, and at the bottom of that bowl, sort of facing the ground, is a you described it as kind of a square grid like pattern of dots that are animated in a way that almost like a pixel screen that can kind of pop in and out of those little black pixels can pop in and out and change configurations. That is that an

accurate recap pretty much? The bowl itself off the bottom was black and the ball was black, but it was almost like a recessed lighting there in those little black slot. Yeah, within the black holes there were lights, and then the lights were coming on in a pattern. Gotcha, Okay, so thank you flying over me. And I you know, of course, I'm just like I'm freaking out, and I go inside and I just hear static in my ear, just in my head, just like like ring ringing in

my ears. And I sit down at the bottom step of the basement and my wife's doing laundry, and she's like, what's wrong, And I'm like, I just saw a UFO again. And she was like, you know, in her mind, she's like, you need to stop with that. You know, it's bothering me clearly. I was like I can't help it.

I was like, I didn't ask for this. She's like, hell yeah, I'm asking for it. So then I hear in my head and this is the first time I hear a voice okay yeah, And I know this sounds like schizophrenic, but this, you know, I haven't had anything like that happened before or since. And and it's like this almost like the vibe of what they're saying is just like calm down, like almost like damn dude, like everything's fine, We're not gonna hurt you, almost like like

when a child gets scared of thunder. Yeah, and you're like it's okay, Jesus, okay, okay. You know, it's like it's like that kind of tone. And I'm like, get out of my head. I'm going nuts. And I go into my little basement office and all my studio equipment is has gone into disco mode okay, which means all the lights are flashing and the levers are moving, and my computer's started out, and my

other electronic equipments parted out. Is that coincidental? Maybe probably? And so that was like the first kind of like close because again it's it's going in phases. It's it's way out here, it's getting closer, and now it's it's like on me. And so this starts like the second phase of crafts being in close proximity and hearing voices. And I mean one time I heard I was sitting in the living room. I heard a voice, It's like, come outside, and this was like the female voice. Some of it

was like the group talking. It sounded like multiple people talking at once, and then one was like a female voice, like if you talked into an empty ten bucket way it kind of echoes back in your ears, has like that pain to it, you know, and picked up but like a female voice, but in my head mhm. And oddly enough, I've met somebody

on UFO Twitter two people that have heard the same thing. And then I watched that documentary the other night on Netflix, The Unclassified Thing, and I didn't even realize the past goula guy in Mississippi and no, and so I don't realize it at the time, but I hear this voice say come outside and go outside, there's like, you know, white light in the sky. Mhm. And you know, I mean again, I'm outside of me,

in my backyard. I could just go on and on, and I look off to the left, you know, I showed you the woodlands out there and off therion, off the horizon, I just see these two white lights and red light. Slowly right there's a radio tower on a hill, and it's slowly rising like this, you know, next to the radio tower, as if to say, do you see me moving up? And not at you? But I'm going like, no way, that's a plane coming. And just because of the whatever, you know, it looks like it's

rising. And then the two white lights go off, the red light goes off, and then across the front of the wingspan was just like these lights like purple and green and white, and I think orange was in there, definitely purple and green and white, just like a p Floyd laser light show. And then they all went off, and the two white lights came back on, and the red light came back on. And now it's not moving up anymore, and this is miles away. It's not moving up anymore.

It's moving at me. And then again the two white lights go off, the red lights go off, the you know, the roll lights go off, and then they the two white lights come off. So do you see what I'm saying. It's kind of sequencing between whatever's across the wingspan and these two white lights and the red light underneath. And then I go like, oh god, that's one of those things. And so I turn around to

walk back to my basement door. And I've counted the steps. It's thirty steps and you know, thirty seconds or less walking quickly back to my basement door. I turn around and this thing is on me. It has gone miles in less than thirty seconds or less. And it's like, okay, here's me and this thing is like here, and I can see it's a

boomerang. Okay, oh wow, okay, but it's angled. Okay, if my hand was the boomerang, it's angled like this, okay, where the front of it is facing me, and I can see the points of the top of the wing form pointing at an angle up in the sky. And I'm like, that's not flying, that's hanging because the no aerodynamics happening

at all, and that is the boomerang. And then and it's right above a tree, and the average tree is about one hundred feet tall, and so it's probably like one ten, one twenty, you know, pretty close. And again with the lights across the front of them, but this time it's close, and I'm like and not unlike that black triangle. I'm like, this thing is going like hey, you know, like it's it sees me seeing it, and it's just even. And so I don't remember it

moving from angle and facing me to right above me. But when it's right above me, it's a lot closer, like it's a low tree top and I'm guessing fifty sixty and the two white lights on the bottom and the red light cast this like pink glow on the bottom. I can see it clear as day. It looks like a croissant or a bloomerang or a banana. And I'm just going like, and it has like it looks like ice cream cones with a scoop of ice cream, almost like bird breasts on the bottom

of it. Okay, yep, yep. It's making like a low like a luxury car that's in idle, like something's running, but it's not roaring. Kind of a hum, kind of a hum to it, and it passes over, and this was one of the few. And I don't know if this was before or after all the other stuff, but like, I didn't I wasn't scared. This one didn't freak me out. And it wasn't

big. It was you know, it would have been big enough for two adults to sit in maybe, And it flies over and I'm watched it fly over and the two white lights on the box side of the wing, which by the way, I could see when it flies over, and they were like, it was just so smooth, like it didn't look like it was nothing was bolted, there were no flaps, there was no soldering. It just looked like it was just neatly tucked into it the two white lights.

And the two white lights went off as it goes off, and then the red light drops just like goes but it maintains pace with it. It's probably going about this fast, and the red light just drops and maintains pace and it's about ten fifteen feet below it, and I'm like, dude, that's one of those orbs. That's not a light that's attached to the craft. That's one of those orbs. And it's red. And then the back God

just hurts my head. The back of the craft where the tips of the wings would have been this, these red lights come on the back of it, and they just multiply a layer, and the craft looks to get thicker, like it its depth grew. These series of white light red lights came on off on the back of and I am awake, I am sober, I'm not on drugs, I'm not drunk. It was Easter Sunday. My kids were walking Easter eggs up the hill, you know, several acres away

at the neighbor's house, and this thing flies over where they are. A little white light turns on on top of it. The red light disappears, the white lights come back on. I was like, it's pretending to be a plane, and then it kind of angles and just flies off over the horizon of the streets. So, you know, And so if I understand now, David, your your wife doesn't want you to interact with these and what draws you to the interaction. I don't know. I'm not requesting this.

I'm not No C five was performed, no d MT trip was done. There was no means of any kind of connection being made that they sought me out. I'm convinced of them, but in your your feeling, like because if they if they say to you come outside, and you go outside, something's telling you to go outside. Yes, I don't is it your

heart? No, it's like it's literal. It's that voice, that that that I describe like when you're talking into a tin can, like it's do you It's like, okay, do you feel compelled or do you feel how do I say this? Do you feel it was of your own volition or do you feel like you were compelled to go outside and interact. I remember being like son of a bit now what you know, like kind of annoyed

by it in a way a little. And I remember sending a text to my wife like another UFO just flew over boomerang and close could have thrown a rock at it, you know, and these people that are like, oh wow, okay, let me back up. I don't mean to mock it because I don't know, but that this idea that it's just an extension of ourselves or we manifested from our own mind. I'm like, dude, thing with the rock and it would have gone thunk. Yeah, I'm in close.

I'm in close. Proximity to the NASA Jet Propulsion Lab. Is that something out of there? I have no idea, but these things are getting closer and closer, and the shapes are varying wildly. Now there, I hate stop me if if I'm boring you guys, Well, no, I actually have a question, and I apologize if you are going to get to this, but all right, we'll come back to it soon. The Cliffhanger question. There, See, when Nathan gets a question, it really something

happens in the universe. That's how good it is. We are calling all beings. We are not going to talk about our Powerhouse round table that we're in the process of playing right now. We are going to talk to David John Lanier, and Nathan has a question that he would like to post to you. Please go ahead, my good friend. Yeah. So, David, when we talked earlier, you had mentioned to us that you had had

a physical effect on I think your arm or something like that. Is that before or after this incident during like as they're getting closer, like they went from just being the lights to progressively getting closer to the point where I'm seeing like boomerangs fifty to sixty feet above my head that I could literally with a rock. And it was during that time that these kinds of things were happening,

which really freaked me out. And I should also add that at this point I had stopped filming because this was, you know, two thousand and nine, twenty ten, and I just kind of felt like it was really personal and they would come closer if I stopped filming. And at one point they told me, I don't know, oh my god, that to stop talking about it, to stop filming it, and so you know, I did, and that's when they started getting real close, and I was like,

Okay, this is like just a one on one thing. This is like they don't want everybody knowing this is going on. This is just personal. This is very personal. They don't want other people to know what's going on. If I don't film it, they get closer and I can figure out what's going on the thought of this, Yeah, do I need to wait? Did he just don't know? He's I think he just turned so, you know. And then so it has kind of an intimacy to it in a way, like like this was meant for you or just meant for

you, only really not meant for other people to know about. Yeah, pretty much. Uh, and that kind of ties in later. And this is why it just gets so confusing, because I could go on and on. There was a there was a metallic sphere, just a boom that came. Again. These things are like below tree top level, so I'm assuming between eighty two hundred feet like clear most of the all the time at night. There was one craft I saw during the day. I'm not sure what

it was, but do that did this? You need to come back. He asked me to pick him off the stage for a second, so you're good. Just keep going. So the sphere is coming below tree top level, and it has like it's just like a ball. I don't know how big it is, probably like, oh, you know, it's not big, ten to fifteen feet in diameter, give or take, you know, five feet towards twenty not towards five feet. It's just this ball. And it has like these little red lights that are above and below it, probably

about eight or nine small red lights above and below it. And they're undulating, just like getting does that make any sense, Like they're getting further away and closer, and they look to be attached to antenna. Okay, Okay, these aren't orbs, because now I're attached to some kind of antenna and they're undulating, and it's flying again. It's not high, less than one hundred feet, not far away, less than fifty yards away. And again at this point, it's like so regular that I'm just like, well,

why now? And so this this light comes on, like a headlight, just a single light, just just right ahead up. So it's going like this, this metal orb this light comes on, shines straight ahead, and then the light of it shines on me, and it shines on me for like oh like one Mississippi two, Mississippi three, Mississippi four, Mississippi five, Mississippi. This swings the light forward, and I don't remember what happened after that. I'm not saying anything weird happened in that thing. I don't

know what's going on. Right, it's too small, excuse me? Yeah, Like I would guess somewhere between ten to twenty feet in diameter, got it roughly. And I guess I'm telling these particular instances because these are where they were shining lights on me as if to community. But now we've got a triangle, we've got uber, we've got spear, and I'm going like, is this a parade? Am I being privvy to multiple species? Right now? What have I done? What do you want with me? What's

happening? There was another where it was just an X. I've heard of that before. I thought I was going nuts. I don't tell people about it because I'm like, I've never heard of an X shaped craft literally not much bigger than my car. And then on, okay, here's the X and on two of the points there's red lights and they're swimming through the air like this. They're just going like and I mean they're swimming around the craft. M h. And I have no recollection of what happens after before why

I was standing there. I'm not saying anything weird happened. It was ten years ago. I just that's all I remember. There was another work. There were like these four gigantic orbs of orange light, probably twenty to thirty feet in diameter, all next to each other in a row, just boo. And then there was a smaller fifth one in the middle above before and

they were just slowly drifting at me. I ran sign, I ran sky, I don't my mind took another hot shower till the water ran cold, I you know, and so I could go on and on and on. You know, let's let us. You know, a lot of people that follow ufology have seen something, and now we've it's actually interesting. You've probably seen more shape craft than anybody that I've talked to other than probably Louelizondo has

probably seen you know, every shape that's out there. But I think what is fascinating to to the viewers is to hear about experiences that you had with them. And as we've gone just a little bit over an hour, so tell us about the interactions that you had to the extent that you want to. And if that's not something that you want to talk about one hundred percent,

don't talk about it. But the things that you told us were pretty interesting that you have between you, your wife, and some members of your family. Okay, so real quick, I saw another black triangle that was much smaller over an intersection and it looked like the t R three B thing. It was. It was little, and there were people around, and nobody looked up and I was like, oh wow, crazy, Like is this am I crazy? Are you all crazy? Are you that numb?

And then there was a second where it another one flew over. I mean, lo, just this giant ass, Oh my god, like Safari hat looking thing. I'm looking at. Everybody's just talking and I looked up. Nobody's looking up, and I'm like, what is happening? And at this point I had disconnected myself from ufology and from the study of it because I didn't want I'm gonna do a bias to occur and for me to be like confused by the issue. I was just letting this naturally be what it was.

And I was like, these people are not seeing what I'm seeing, where they're numb to it or I'm going crazy. It's one of the three. And if this is the military, is there like a gold mine under my house or something? What's going on? So? Wow? Well, you know, Richard Dreyfus, the character and Close Encounters, felt the same way. He felt like, am I going crazy? And supposedly that story is based on real based on real event? Is that right, Nathan?

That some of that is based on real events? Steven Spielberg did his homework. Oh he did, Yeah, he did. And Jean Valley was a consultant on that. I'm sure it was kind of like a culmination of a lot of things. And I mean I was living at this point. I was building mashed potato mountains, hopefully with gravy on there. But like I'm metaphorically speaking, it was getting to that point where I'm like, dude, And so now my wife is getting on board. She's like because she sees

one with me. Mm hmm. We're leaving to go somewhere with the kids in the car. Oh my god, and there's this safari hat looking thing coming through the trees. I mean, it's so far down in the trees that it's in the forest coming up the trail, and it's got like two headlights shining right at me. I was like, Anna, do you see She's like, yes, I see it. Get in the car. I was like, this is historic. Do you see this? She was like, get in the car. I was like hey, and I get in

the car and we leave. But it had gotten like that casual where this was just like, so my wife's getting on board now because she's seeing stuff. Ms here seeing stuff my older daughter has seen like some kind of green so trying to explain it to me, like some kind of green disc with green lights on the outside. It was like rotating around over there. Hey, David, did did the conversation between you and your wife shift at this

point? Because now, up to then it had been you seeing things and her telling you, you know, get inside, don't go look for these things, and now she saw it. Did anything change at that point? Yes, And that's where things shifted to can you I'll hear me, yes, Okay, that's when things shifted to phase three, where that now we're

seeing beings. So one night or one morning, I wake up, okay, and keep in mind, all this stuff is going on and I and that's not even I have told a fraction of what I saw because I just I'm I'm I'm getting into like a manic episode while I'm trying to explain all this this stuff. And I'll leave from this conversation and remember more craft. I could just go on and on the point is they're getting close. They're

following me around, okay. Like I went to Atlanta. I took my dad to a braids game and thought, in my mind, I want one of these things to show up, and sure enough, one did, and my sister was with me. I was like, do you see that? She looked at me. She's like David stop. I was like, okay, And my dad was like, is that a helicopter? I was like, no, dead, that's not it. Wow here and they and and that kind of thing went on, like Nashville, Atlanta, Birmingham, Montville,

wherever I was going. I was seeing these things. I'm like, dude, are they following me? Am I going nuts? Okay, So my wife is starting to see these things now. One morning she's folded clothes and she said, David, one of those things was in the bedroom. I was like, what do you mean one of those things? He said she was like an alien. And I'm just like what she said. Yeah. I was like, where was it? She said it was over here. She turns your back. She was like, it was up here,

and our ceilings are seven feet tall. She said it was either seven feet tall or it was floating, and it looked like it was coming through the wall. And she's got no inclination of any of this stuff. This is hoolessness to her. She still thinks it's foolishness, although she's where it's root mm hm. And I was like, coming through the wall. Great, because again this is I'm a virgin to this thing. And even though this

is happening over the course of years. I'm like reading something going like they can come through walls, and in my wife, who knows nothing, She's like it might have been coming through the wall. I was like, oh my god. And so I said, what do I look like. She's like, you know, like light bulb shaped head, big black eyes, little mouth, little nose. I said that you see its whole body? She said, I only saw its torso like from its arms up to its

head. She said, I thought I was seeing things, but then it shifted its weight and it moved, and she said, I dug my fingernails into your bicep and you were just dead. She said. I tried to wake you up and you wouldn't wake up. And I was like, what did you do? She said, I pulled the covers over my head and I prayed to God that it would go away. Demons David, if I could, if I could jump in here, and I apologize Nathan to cut you off, and that's fine. What do you if so you were being

kept asleep for some reason. I have no idea. I have okay, no, reay, okay. Second second part of the question then would be why would they do that, because why what do you think they're trying to do? My wife was pregnant mm hmm. And I don't know, but I did ask him. And that comes a little bit later because all along, all along the way, while the craft were getting closer, I would ask for them to show up because I couldn't believe that this was happening.

I was like, and you're in crafts and these are aliens, and you'll show up if I ask. And so now we've got to be in the house coming through the wall. I have I have no idea. I don't want to speculate. All I know she's got some long fingers. They dug it into my arm, trying to wake me up, and I didn't wake up. Yeah, And so now I'm beyond scared. I'm like, I mean, I'm in a panic. I don't know. And this is where the story's gonna start kind of jumping around, because then the dreams started and

the voices increased mm hmm. And and I do think that what they told me and the dreams are relevant, but you know, my mind just went blank. But what were those what were those things? Uh? You know, I'm trying to that there were more beings, you know, if I could jump across real quick. My son woke up one morning and said he woke up in the middle of the night and was stuck to the ceiling and he heard footsteps on the roof. H It's okay, sorry, David.

It was scared. It would scare the hell out of anybody, absolutely okay. Then he had like this like thing. He had this lump in his foot that looked like the size of your pinky. Just this lump in his foot and it has sensed concave and now it's just like concave scoop at the bottom his foot and it hurts him to like walk around. So what so And then my daughter, my five year old daughter, wakes up in the middle of the nice screen bloody murder. And then the next day she's just

like clinging to me. She won't talk. I'm like, what's going on with you? See? She keeps like side eye and this like bottom pain in the window, and and she was like there was a big bird staring in the window and it had big eyes and a pointing mouth. She's five, And I'm like, okay, okay, And and then my wife like,

okay, so now I have to stop and say. Now I'm talking to them, and when I talk to them, I'm outside and I can see a craft m you know, and I don't have clear recollections, but I'm like, I just recall one night, like, have my hands on my knees, I'm gagging, I'm crying, I'm stumbling around like I'm drunk, not drunk, And there's these two orange lights on the opposite sides of the tree line. And I asked, and I'm having the conversation. I'm like, we got to get to the bottom of this. And you can

hear me, and y'all are in my house. Now I want answers what's going on? You know, this is starting to feel a little bit violating, and so, oh my god, I can't believe what I'm saying. It's a lot of it's very it's very violating, not even a little bit. Yeah, So I ask it, what's the deal with God, Heaven, Hell, Jesus the Devil. I can almost remember verbatim what I heard. Not going nuts? Am I having a schizophrenic episode? I don't know.

I don't think so. And they said it said, she said, we cannot reveal to you the answers to those types of questions because it would defeat the purpose of the faith that's required to believe in such things. Then I asked, if there's anything to the twenty twelve phenomenon, this was like in twenty eleven. I said, not in the way that you think. There will be chaos and destruction, but life will go on. And this was right after Haiti had happened. I was like, similar to Haiti,

oh, yes, but life will go on. And then not long after that, the tsunami hit Japan and I'm just watching the TV going like, dude, is the world about to end? You know? And then I asked, and most of the time when I'm talking to them, I'm seeing a craft outside and sometimes it's just sitting on myself phone, you know, because the relationship at that point had gotten like I could just like like punching in a TV chain. Yeah, And I ask like, why is this

happening? We can't reveal to you the answers to those kinds of questions because you wouldn't be able to handle it. But it'll make sense as you continue to live your life, and it's necessary and like that's vague, try me and like you know in transmission. Are you doing this to my kids? Are you doing this to my pregnant wife? Yes, but nobody's being hurt. Nobody will remember anything, and it's all for a purpose, a good

purpose. Trust us. Calm down, everything will be fine, Like no, m no, stop, whatever you've got to do, do it to me, but leave my wife and kids out of this. Then I come home from work it thirty shortly after saying that, and there's this tear drop shaped craft hanging like eighty feet above my house, just hanging in the air. It's got like three big white lights on the bottom of it, little green like tip wings. It's like a pair but like laying on the side.

It's just hanging and I'm like, they're waiting till I'm gone. Yeah. And then I'm looking at it out of my windshield because my car's parked in the driveway, and it flies over me and I lean back, I hold on the face the reality of it, and I look back out. It's like a glitch in the matrix, and there it is again. It's like a skip and a tape reel, and it flies back over me again. And then around that time, my wife was like, well, you

were at work. I woke up in the middle of the night and there were two of them standing at the foot of the bed, shoulder to shoulder. Didn't say anything, they were just standing there. It's like, what did you do to to to what? Two beings aliens grays standing shoulder to shoulder, you know, not saying anything, said what'd you do? Cover my head with the sheets and pray that they would go away. And so now I'm like, they're coming to the house while I'm gone. I asked

them not to, and now they're in the house while I'm gone. Mm hm. So I'm pissed, you know, you know, you're frustrated because there's not a there's just no sense of trust there. Well, there's a

one side. It's one sided, yes, Like it would be like if I asked you what's the weather like today and you're or if I ask you what color your shirt was and I couldn't see you and you were like, well it's not orange, dude, Okay, well yeah, not clear enough, a little more specific, and it's always like you can't handle it. It's for a greater purpose, Just trust me. That's this greater purpose.

The idea was if shit hits the fan. What we're doing will enable you to be with us in somewhere on the craft, wherever we are live or going. It's something to do with like that, and it was a good thing, and I'm like, okay, So that ties into the dreams. I'm having these dreams, you know, go out and there's just this lattice work of UFOs in the sky and they look they're just disks and they're multi colored and they're flashing colors and they're everywhere, and there's just this sense that

they've shown themselves and it's not an invasion. They're not attacking, they're just flexing. They're just saying, know that we're here and know who's boss around here, and you all better act right, just for all of humanity. And life still goes on. Everybody's going to work, but there's just this like Jesus Christ, like you know, that kind of is the vibe. And I had two dreams like that, and one dream the water levels were

really high. It wasn't flooded, but it was flooding, and you know, I talked to somebody else that's had experiences, and oddly enough, she heard robotic male voices. I heard robotic. Why it's almost like they're trying to make you more comfortable by giving you something that's I don't know. So, hey, David, at this point in time, have you confined these events inside your family or is this being shared with your wife's family that your

family? This is just within our own family. You know. There were nights where we had horses that would run wild on our property for a while, and the horses running back one night and there was just like this, just this burst of light and all the horses were and they took off running and my dogs started barking at the horses, ran after the horses and the light. I just you know, my wife just grabbed my hand real tight. It's like ten thirty at night, just stuff like this going on,

like no stop, a little orange or red. I can't remember light outside of the window. One night, having all these crazy dreams, you know, there was a second dream where there was the lattice work of the UFOs and I'm sorry for talking to some much. No, it's okay, it's okay. So there was another dream at the lattice work UFOs, the same vibe. They shown themselves no threat, but better watch yourself and my son is sleep walking and he's walking into the window trying to go to and I'm

like, they're trying to draw them outside. Why are they trying to draw them outside? Is that just a dream? Does does it matter? Is it coincidental? I don't know, but it was going on at the same time. My wife is seeing beings and I'm seeing craft close enough to throw a rock at something. I'm seeing orbs flying around X shaped things flying around the back of this thing. Looks like it's a star Wars And I mean this is it sounds like it's relentless. And yes, I mean is it

every week? Is it every day? How often is this happening? Honest to God, to my recollection, I would say, on average about three nights a week for about three years. Wow, I mean wow. It was so often that it literally got to the point where it was it wasn't like wow, look thing, it was like what where we go again? You know? And so and all the while, you know, I'm waking up like I've got four white discolorations in a row on the back of my

calf. I've got a little scoop out of my ship. Is it something? Sar time ago? I don't know. I woke up one morning there were two little holes in my pointer finger and this spingernail and this pingerail fell off, and then that happened twice, you know, and I just put band aids on it, try to go about my day, and I think about it, but I'm like, dude, is this connected to that? Is it not connected? Having some kind of fungal infection? What's going on?

My wife would wake up she was pregnant. She'd have a little like scab on her belly button, you know, and she was freaked out. I'd have little scabs on mine. I wake up just sweating so bad that I was soaked through to the mattress I have to take. I have to put like four or five towels down. And this would happen frequently. I'm like, am I having nightmares? Is it? Like? What's happening?

I started smoking and drinking coffee to stay awake so I wouldn't fall asleep, so they wouldn't come, right, Well, what was it like on the nights and they didn't come? Were you sitting in there like you guys are watching TV and you're like, oh, I hope it won't come. And then they did, and then they didn't, and you're relieved, Like, how did it were you? What emotion were you met with when they did come? When you're just having a normal family evening. At this point,

nothing was normal. It was very strained. I was. I started drinking pretty heavily at nighttime just to deal with the stress of it. I would just numb myself with either alcohol or TV shows, just to not think about it. If it wasn't coming, if it was a night where nothing was happening, you know. So yeah, it just wasn't good at all. Ever, you know, it was just stressed. And my wife was like, you better not bring those things in the house again. I'm like,

I'm not. She's like, stop stop stop googling it, stop researching it, stop looking for them, stop talking to them, right because and I'm gonna tell you, we have about fifteen minutes left. So I want to I want to get to how you got rid of these guys. But I wanted to know if there was a part of you that didn't want them to come, and then a part of you that did want them to come.

Yeah, I mean, you know, because you feel special, there's a part of you that feels like, oh wow, this is happening to me. Did you feel like you were getting any answers? Did you do you feel like you were ever getting any any closer to the reason. No, it was all one sided. I mean, they hold the key there in control. I can't emphasize that enough, but you know there there's just there's

so much more to this. But to answer your question, it became too much and I kind of wrap my head around the fact that this is not a good thing or not. Space brothers come to save this. Oh and I saw one of them one night, you know, and I had heard a voice in my head that said communication would work better if we could do the space to face. I was like, couldn't because I'm not so like And then people are like, oh, well, you must have agreed. I was like, I must not have. They do want, you know,

and so like I saw one one night. You know. I'll try to answer your question, but it appeared there was a mist you know, because I can't speak for my wife, I can speak for myself. There's this mist Like I'm sitting there playing video games one night it's one o'clock in the morning because I'm afraid to go to bed. I see this little shadow run by the window in the door. It's a wooden door with a square window. I ignore it. Shadower once by again I ignore it. It

was by a third time. I'm like, okay, is this something weird? And then there's just this mist, just molecule by molecule, just this mist coming in out of nothing right in the window, and it just starts like coalescing until it's like there's a gray and I mean it's as real as if there was somebody on UFO Twitter that drew it for me like a police sketch. I doodled a little thing and I explained it to it's exactly. I mean, it looks just like it's like I'm looking in the face of

it. The ridge up its head was a little darker in his depiction. It was a little lighter, you know, but it had like a darker ridge whenever its head. But just the eyes were just massive, like they would have come all the way back here, and wrinkles around his mouth, just a little boomerang. The picture on my Twitter looks just like it.

And I was like that that is not the female, just female, and that ain't I don't want, you know, And I just like, I'm six feet away from it, and I can see like it's got really high hard cheek bones. I can see the shadows and the cheek bones. I'm like six feet away from it. I just look away and I say, no, you know, and I look back and it's not there. And I look out the window of my dogs just like her hackles up the ridge

of hair that runs down her hackles. She's sniffing under the car and sniffing the front fender, looking around, and I'm just like, what in the hill? And I've replayed that in my mind a million times. What are you doing? Are you sitting on the sofa? What are you doing this? I was sitting on the coffee table, sitting okay, close to the TV. Oh got it, got it low load, and and the door was about seven feet away. I stood up and took a step, and

I'm six feet away from the door when I saw this happen. And so that that's when I also kind of went like, that's that's not matching up with the voice I'm hearing. My wife had dreams. I have to include this. She had dreams about they land there, they landed in some big city and all these people were clamoring to go see it. And she heard a voice and again she thinks this is all stupid. She hates all this stuff. That this voice in her head and the dream says one day this

is going to happen. Only you can hear us right now, and if you choose, you can get on the craft with us and leave. And she said no, So I think I have that picture if you want to, if I can put it up on screen here. Oh wow, that is awesome, man, Yeah, this is it's it. That's scary looking. Man, that's identical. And you know what, it really looked old like the wrinkles around its mouth were really like it looked old. And the first thought that was in my mind was like zombie like that thing is not

there's no emotion there at all. It's just like, you know, it's just just zombie. M So you know. And and I did bring it up to my parents eventually at Christmas twenty thirteen at dinner, and my mom wants to go around the table like, how'd your year ago? Just I'm like, you know, I object, I don't know if I'm being abducted violence, I don't I've not had regressive. I don't know what's going on, Okay, I just know that they're in my house. I'm seeing them,

my wife's seeing them. We're having dreams about the apocalypse. There's a craft everywhere, in orbs everywhere, and from from what you mentioned, because I actually called a friend about this topic that you just brought up, I said, you know, you know, I asked my friend Carlene, who's on our show, who does regression his work, and she said, it has to be something that you want. I said, I don't think David

wants to remember. Yeah, no, uh, okay. I mean I did some like transcendental meditative type trance is self induced to try to remember, and I had some flashes of like being led down this long curved hallway by this woman alien with black hair and seeing like arch doors, and then you know, being on table and seeing the tops of their little heads. But that could all be in my imagination. I don't know. I don't really put a lot of stock in that. But I've heard other people describe things,

and my god, that's eerily similar, you know. But but I don't really put a lot of stock in that. And no, I don't want regression because one of the things that flashed in my mind is like being in some kind of chair with a tube down my throat, and I don't want to know what's going on that flash in my head. That could just be imagination and paranoia run wild. I'm yeah on that, and I'm not telling anybody that's what happened. Absolutely, you know that's just a flash in

my mind. I don't know. I'm not putting you don't want to actualize that that into your your consciousness to where it's you're like, oh, okay, now I remember that. I get it. I get it. I just had to throw it. I just had to throw it out there and just find out. But I understand, and I want to be rational about it too and say that, like the voices in my head and the dreams, I have a hard time to believe in that. I have a hard time believing I saw a gray I believe my wife. I know I saw

a craft and orbs and lights that would respond to my roofort. So I'm at Christmas dinner breakdown, my wife, kids, everybody leaves the table, and my dad is just like, you know, son, this is not new topic. This has been going on since I was a kid. You need to talk to your mother because she's had some similar Wow, do not dogs my mother, by the way, for anybody listening to me. But she tells me that like when she was nineteen, she was at a Christian

camp and she heard wrestling in the clauset. She opened the door. There's two little silhouettes in there. She slammed the door shut. They pushed back. She slammed it again. Ran out to the councilor's cabin. She said, there's little things in my closet, and he says, Cecilly of those are demons, and they've come to, like, you know, manipulate you into not being Christian anymore. And then again when she was thirty seven, around the time at the late thirties, early forties, around the time I

saw a UFO. In nineteen ninety seven, she says she woke up one night and there were three little short silhouettes at each at the bottom right corner, upper left corner, up here, and then there was a man, like a silhouette of a man. He had like a staffer rod in his hand. He lifted the rod up in the air and the three little silhouettes disappeared, and he proceeded to telling her like how she was going to die. Now, if my mother hears this, she's gonna go, oh my

god, David, what are you doing. But I mean, it's part of it. It's it's just part of the story. It's just part of it. You know. Also while this is going on, my brother in law catches wind of it. He practiced I don't know if he's jealous or if he wants to find it's true. He practices necronomicon sigual magic says, he conjures a reptil. It ends up spending two weeks in the mental hospital. This is very sensitive information. I don't want people, you know,

being like a lot. I need to go talk to him and talking He's like, mind your business, believe me your tongue. You know. He ends up two weeks in the mental hospital. And now I got to deal with that. And then I'm getting you know, I'm also getting like followed by helicopters. And there was a guy that followed me through a shopping center all the but of the car's car just so happened to be parked like right

next to mine. He takes my picture from like four feet away and just slow the lowders the camera just stairs like that and then gets in his car's a little all black car convertible, pulls off, drives off, My parents' house burns down. This is all happening around the same time. On Facebook, I'm getting, you know, stalked by this dude that's got a profile picture of like a trench coat and a gun with the UFO. One hundred of my photos get liked in a day, block them. Happens again in

the next day by some weird profile block in. I don't know if that's connected. That can all be not connected at all, but it was happening. So I have an absolute mental breakdown at Christmas in twenty thirteen. Talk to my dad, talk to my mother. This has to stop. My mother's like, David, those are demons. My wife is like, David, those are demons. I don't know if they're demons or not. I

don't know if this is something good. I don't know if they enhanced my DNA and now I can survive on a spaceship, if they have to take me away during the apocalypse, I don't know. I have no idea, but at this point I'm so strung out that I'm like, I can't live like this anymore. So if they start praying for me, they encourage me to get back into the Bible. I start, and I come to terms that this is not a good thing and these are not space brothers come to

say this. I just I'm like, okay. I take all of my T shirts, Alien T shirts, alien books, all this stuff. I go to get my brother in law's black magic books. I take all that, I burn it. I invite somebody out to the house that's like a new age kind of healer. She sages the house. Another friend of mine is like a new age crystal guy. He buries, organite all in the yard. I have like church pray over me. I met with a pastor. I had somebody anoint me with oil. I started practicing, you know,

Knochian type stuff to summon archangels. I took on the Christ's consciousness. I was doing like kundling rising and chakra cleansing and everything I could do. I stopped drinking everything I could do to pull myself out of a negative place.

And that's when it started taking off in the same way it came beings left craft started leaving little lights in the sky, and then and now it's gone, and it's still gone up wee hours in the morning, and I'll see something weird and I'm like, you know what, David, I have a lot of respect for you already, and I'm gonna tell you why, because if it were me and they told me I could make your hair grow

back, I would probably suffer an abduction for that. I would if they said, we promise you full head of hair, Nathan, this would be it. You know, it'd be tough to say no, you got you know, you understand where I'm coming from. That's pretty that's a pretty sexy offer. Yeah, well, I mean I want to echo what where DJ is saying, sorry, chucked up there, But uh, it takes a ton of guys to do share the story of everybody. And I'm sorry for

going on y'all. No, I I mean for me. And then there's so many layers of the story that you know, kind of hit me. But watching you tell it is actually one of the most important components of this because it's obvious to me how impactful this experience was to you and how difficult it is to talk about it. So I you know, again, I really want to thank you for coming on the show to share this with everyone, and only only because I hope that in sharing the story it helps,

like it helps process this and helps you come to peace with it. That's my hope too. I mean that's part of why I did it, just because you know, I cannot just sit down at dinner with some friend and Billy, hey, did you hear about the thing in politics? Like man, like, I just don't care. That's never a good conversation to have anywhere, but it and just not being able to be like, dude, there's aliens flying around doing god knows what. I don't care about anything.

I mean I do, I do, okay. And that's why I'm thankful for my wife, because she's very good at just being like, hey, the toilets clogged, go fix You have a Yeah, you have a life. Here, go cut the grass, go feed the horses, you know, focus dad. So like, it's difficult, and also you know, I feel like I'm not the only one that's been through this. Oh my

god. Yeah, we just we just uh learned all about Jim Sparks very some some similar experiences to you, Chris bled So, Terry loveless obviously Angelie. So yeah, and by the way, I want to say this, David, you look very healthy, are you right? You you really do look very healthy. Well, I'll say that back to getting rid of them, that was part of it. Was like cutting out the drinking, cutting out the just the just the negativity that was in my life. Having to

like get out of that was a part of it. And I still continue that to this day. Like have you seen that meme this guy like Rocky working out and said like introverts preparing to make a phone call. That is exactly what I did before I came here to do that because my levels of stress and anxiety are that high that I have to, you know, do that. And I do think it's a constant battle. And I will say

I'm not against love and light. I know the story I just told it was dark and stressful and confusing, but I'm not against love and light, you know, I did. I did have some experiences and all that where I wasn't creeped out and I was I didn't feel threatened. I just felt like they were showing themselves to me as almost like a consoling kind of thing. Mm hmmm. Just think of this, David, like, this is

our yoga room. Uh. And and you can come to this space any time that you want and uh talk to Nathan and I and uh and let it out there, and we will welcome you to have you on here and talk about it. It's uh, it's a beautiful thing. It's not an it's an experience that a lot of us think would be great. And some people do have some great experiences, and some people have horrific experiences. For

example, UH, correct me if I'm wrong. Nathan Chris Bledsoe said he was healed during his first interaction of Crohn's disease, yet Angelie spent six hours and said that she's not healed. Yeah, yeah, expect for Yeah, it's it's a very mixed bag. I don't think they're all the same beings. And if Angelie said as much, she said, there's some beings out there that are not as benevolent as the beings that that she's been interacting with

and the two that left the council and then the other four. And I think that's what got our friend Lampey shout out to say Lampey nineteen forty seven. She was very upset by knowing that there's something out there that's ominous. I would say, Nathan, yeah, you know, if I can interject, I would say maybe not evil, but impartial. They don't care.

It's on there, it's their playing field, and you're just kind of like the dude, almost like if an NBA team played against like a middle school basketball team, like you're not even in the same league, and they know it and they just don't really care. It's not evil as much as it's just like you're not playing by your rules, you're playing by their rules, and I just don't know. It's also confusing. But if I can get outside of my own experience and I just try to just because I just try

to hammer home. I don't know what it all means. I don't know if the dreams and the voices correlate. I don't know. So I'm not trying to speculate. But if I can't speculate now, I'll say that there's multiple beings. There's a lot going on here. I don't know why, because you'll have a debunker. It's going to be like why why in the world, whether you can be one much less multiple, I don't know, dude, I have no idea, you know, I wish I knd't And

maybe that's where we're going with all it. Sure, I want to say, for my part that the NBA versus middle school team actually happened last year when Kevin Durant was healthy, Kyrie Irving and James Harden and they were beaten teams by thirty until one of the three of them would get injured. So anyway, so we did get to see that. Maybe it was the Memphis Grizzlies, just kidding Memphis, calm down, Okay, no, But but David, I think, you know, to kind of bring it to a

close today. You know, it's the timing means something, you know. I think there's a reason why you know now is the time to tell this story. There's a reason why we're hearing more stories and being told and that reason may not be clear yet, but it may become clear. And I think your courage to come forward will encourage others to come forward, and and

and and that has accumulative power that you know will lead to something. So and I don't know what, but I again I want to thank you for being willing to share this story and the way that you have and and I hope we get a chance to chat with you again. Yeah. I mean, let me know, I think I've just absolutely mentally vomited everything that happened to me, So I don't know what more there is to say, and diving into all of it is clearly like triggering and not a good place for

me to be mentally. But you know, I'm always down to chat with somebody about it, you know. And and like you said, I do agree that part of why I did it is to encourage more people, even if you just saw an org or just a triangle or a ghost or something like just this does seem to be the time that that, you know, pushback needs to occur because I don't know what loves up to, but I like it. I don't know where this is going, but I hope that

it's going in a direction where the general public don't tell my story. Yeah, but we do need to start wrapping our heads around the fact that this isn't Chinese drunes some of it, but I don't think all of it is. Let me let me give you an example of the kind of inspiration that you and people like you have provided. I had a chat online with somebody

that's coming on our show named Troy Broskowitz. He's a former pilot from Special Operations, somebody that I flew with, somebody that was a leader of mine, someone I hold in high regard. I would never ever, ever have uttered the word UFO in front of him. And even now we're gonna he's gonna know about my experience, he's gonna come on the air with Nathan and I and Chris Lado, and that would not have happened except for I feel

bolder. I'm emboldened because of people like yourself. So that's what the effect is. So I want to thank you, and we're here for you, and we really do appreciate your time. People before me doing it, you know, I mean, I just I do feel like there's like a domino effect happened, No doubt, David Fraver inspired me. You know many people,

but I can tell it. But I've even like I, like I said, even though I came out with the story, my story after David Fraver, I don't know that two weeks ago even I would have called Troy Broskowitz and said, Hey, Troy would like you to come on air and talk about aviation and related to UFOs and that warble probably wouldn't have happened. But I'm inspired by people that are coming out and talking, so thank you so much. It just occurred to me that it's more than just the three

of us talking. That's right. Yes, we're on YouTube right now, so thank you. I want to say, so, let me just say a couple of things before we let Nathan go, and then we're going to make our memorial to Kevin P. Childress, the retired DOE special agent whom we lost out of UFO hashtag UFO Twitter. I want to say I love you guys. I realized that we do have some scraps and some arguments there. You can just see what David just there showing in peace sign. Please

treat him and his story with love and respect. And I really appreciate what this community has given to my life. So for David P. Lanier, for Nathan at awave soul on hashtag UFO Twitter, this is DJ san Marco saying peace out, one love, and we'll see you down the road. As