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SUBS AND SLAVES.. IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?

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MISTRESS MIA AND MADAME LIV DISCUSS SOME SUB AND SLAVE SCENES AND SOME FUTURE ADVENTURES..

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Hi, welcome to the latest episode of Call Me Mistress. I'm your Hostess, Mistress Mia, and I've got my sidekick. Me, Madam Liv. OK, how are you today, Liv? It's a morning, probably need some coffee. I know you don't have. Your coffee yet? I know I didn't get it. I was thinking about it, then I didn't. Wow. Can't wait till my slave gets here. I know. Where is that little bastard? Two more days. He'll be here. Yeah, he better. Behave and do what he's supposed to do. I think he will.

I think he'll be, he'll be somebody that pushes his own boundaries like some people be like, I don't want to do that. No, I think he'll do it. OK so I have something really fun. I have a shock dog collar that we can put on his neck or around his balls so if he fucks up he can first either get the buzz or yeah. I like that because I he sneeze a collar. I told him he's going to wait at the door at the back door until I'm ready for him because I'll put a collar on before he comes

to the house. Well, you're you're sweet little submissive guy Poe. Speaking of coffee, he got us a neat little tea set. I don't give, so tell us about that. Well, I didn't open it right away because I thought that because he said it was for both of us, I thought maybe would open up together, but he was like, no, he wanted to see me open it. So I opened it. It was a tea box where you put all your little tea bags. In Yeah. Very pretty. You can see into it.

It's very nice. Yeah. When little box was like oh. That's so cool. And you? Guys like tea selections, like the gummy tea bag or gross tea bags. And then you got a little gag gift, just a little nuts, little balls. Uh huh. That it's like for like an infuser where you can put the tea particles into it and then soak it in the water. Yeah. And like, tea tea bag in your crop, your tea. I was like, Oh my God, that's so silly. That was great. I. Need to find another one because

there was only one in there. We need both have one. Oh my gosh. Dip, dip, dip. Yeah. I was gonna say you can have balls in your teeth if you'd like. I do want balls in my teeth just for the beginning. Well, it's confusing. OK, then I'll do pinkies out for the rest. OK, we can do that. Either from days when we're feeling funny. Right. It was a very special gift. So thanks for that PO. That was very sweet.

He told me, he said that he messaged me and he said, you know, on days where he's just not feeling himself and feeling happy, he listens to some of his favorite episodes and it makes him feel better. I'm glad. And that's where that our just Yabrin makes people feel better. You know, we're just talking. Agreed. Well, Justin told me this last week. Actually told me, he said, you know, it's just nice too because he works long hours. So yeah, I haven't seen him in

almost two weeks. But he said to make himself feel better, he'll do the same thing. He'll listen, you know, some of our episodes and. You know, probably it's even better when they've come here and kind of know us a little bit, seeing the dungeon, seeing the yard. They know what we're talking about, can envision it better. Yeah. That's very true. It's. Probably fun to listen people you already know. Yeah. Talk about things that you're on the other side of.

I can believe it. Yeah, I would like it. Well, Barbie hasn't been in a while, but people you know who know Barbie, she's very eccentric. She's quirky, funny as hell. She really is funny. She is. She's witty. I would be very, very witty. She can come up with things on the spot. I'm like damn. This she does. She's so smart, but she does

drag shows. And if she's not doing a drag show, she'll actually help other people like other artists with their actual set for their for whatever roduction they're doing. There's a lot of people that wear the BDSM symbol as well. An Charles was telling me that someone that he knew that was in the military, he actually wore his BDSM necklace and it said slave on it, but it didn't say slave. It was a symbol for slave. Oh. That's hot in the hot. Oh my God. And so someone else said, hey, I

know what that means. You need to tuck that in. No one needs to see that shit. I want to see it. I know you do. I would love to see that, especially in a, in a, you know, in the military when everything's supposed to be structured and you're wearing a little slave. That's hot. We'll see. I'm a little rebel.

I have one for my husband and it's a little slave marker as well, but it's written in a foreign language so no one can tell what it is. Well, I like that I can be somebody could tell what it is. Yeah, that's hot. Absolutely. I had a ring with the BDSM simple, small, Yeah. So I don't think anybody ever really noticed it. Yeah, I was always hoping that somebody would notice it, but nobody ever noticed. It that's fun. Then I lost it when I went

swimming in the ocean. Well, I was with a friend one time and we were just walking in the department store and she had the symbol on again, big pendant on her neck. And it didn't, it was just the BDSM symbol. But one guy immediately came up to her and he said, hey, I know what that sign means on your necklace. And she's like, oh really? And he was like, yeah, I know what that means. That's. The best way? Right. You get your little butterflies going. Yeah, it was sexy. Yeah.

Yeah, she was single. Why not, you know? You and you're not single just to be noticed that that's what. It is absolutely, absolutely. Woman or girl or 1. You know what I want? All right, So what do you plan on doing with the slave? Well, I want him to do daily tasks because he'll be here for four days, so I want to have daily things. He does every day that he has a structure lined up for him. He waits at the back door.

No shirt. OK, You're not going to wear a shirt and you have to wear all black. He was going to ask for Gray. I said no. I said black. I don't want no color on you. Then no shirt. And he'll wear a collar when he comes in, he'll do coffee. He'll get you know, if I want breakfast that day, make me some toast, whatever. And then he'll stand here and wait with us until I tell him what to do. OK, we can always make him a

list too. Yeah, well, I want like, well, I have him at whether the notebook, so he'll make his own list. We don't have to do that shit. OK. Make him write the list. All right. Because he's supposed to bring in his notebook. Because that's what I'm starting to do with everybody so that you know, because there's so many of them that want to do this with me, the sub training and stuff that they have to write a notebook. But honestly, I think I only have two right now.

Of course, my favorite. And then the other guy, which I'm I'm not really sure about him. I don't know why I don't feel comfortable bringing that in yet because I don't know him very well. So and then of course, my slave, which I asked PO, I was like, and he was wearing this Binky that's a a ball gag. And I asked him. I was like, I know I already

have a slave coming. I would have wanted it to be you first because I've been talking about it forever and asking Charles about it. And I was like, I want you to be my slave when I get back or when for when summertime happens because he's a teacher. So when the summer comes, he can have more time. And he smiled behind his Binky. And I don't know why. It's just the cutest little thing. I was like, Oh my God, come here. I just, I feel like we have a

really good, like, dynamic. Yeah, I don't think I'll probably have that with anybody else just because of the way we learned everything, because I was learning BDSM stuff like how to whip and all those things, like with him. So I won't have that with somebody else learning how to do it with somebody. So we'll have that. I think it's special. Yeah, it's very cool. So I want him to be my slave, and he's excited about it. He's like, Oh my God. Yeah, that's exciting.

I'm glad. I think that, you know, the whole concept of being a slave is just like, that's like a such a big commitment for so many people, you know? Because the ship is like more intense, I guess you could say it is more demanding, more responsibility. Yeah, I want your little bitch to skim the pool and blow the patio. He's my flight, I. Know, I know. If we if we do want some time, we could definitely make him leave. Yeah. And not leave, leave, but like

go do something else. Yeah, let. Like I said, if we get tired of him, let's send him outside looking at him, skim the pool. That'll take an hour and then he can blow the whole backyard. That's another hour, you know, fix the patio furniture especially. If you don't have any sessions going on. Exactly. Because I wanted to be the in there with me with my sessions. OK. I prefer him to be there in with me, my sessions.

She'd be blindfolded so that my other Subs that are in there don't feel uncomfortable somebody staring at him. Yeah, but he can listen to everything and he can clean up the mess when we're done. Exactly. And you can tie him up in the corner in that cute little Barber chair and then just like, turn his back around. So he has to listen to it. Yeah, I think that's hot. That is very hot. I love it. And maybe some of the Subs wouldn't mind him watching and

he can watch, yeah. And that's a treat that he has to. If you're doing good that day, maybe one of my Subs will allow it and I will allow it. Yeah, absolutely. But. Yeah, you're supposed to be here Wednesday. OK. So it would be Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, not Sunday. He could have done it Sunday, but I said no, we're not doing it Sunday, sorry. Yeah, Sunday. Is my day my my rest day, you know? Jesus said. On. The 7th day we. Rest that's funny, Jesus said.

OK, so you're going to start talking about Jesus. We're that's a whole other episode. We're going to start talking about that soon, too. Yeah, for sure. But what do you think really is the difference between like being a submissive and then being a slave? Well, a submissive is more like just, it kind of is. The slave is kind of a submissive. If you think about it. They do the same things. It's just more a more of a commitment, more intense. I think that's it because it's

the same. We just have more responsibilities, like I said. Yeah. But sub is kind of like a game and slave is more real. Yeah. So I'm with you on that. I think that people who. That's in that Subs. Aren't real. No, I know what you're saying. I mean, Subs is Oh yeah, you can leave and go home. I'll see you next Tuesday. But in this situation, I've had this conversation with people before, you know, Brie, for example. Brie was always like, I'm not a

slave, I'm not a slave. I'm like bitch I have changed you to the floor, I have not let you leave the dungeon for days. I think most I had her in there one time was three weeks. I said I had my in laws come to visit and they were here for 7-8 days and she was locked in the dungeon the whole time. I gave her a bucket, a gallon of water, and I would take food into her when I had free time. Aside from that, she had some snacks. That was it. So she lost weight and she was unable to smoke.

You know, that's past being just a submissive. That's bitch. You ain't leaving. You're going to be. My slave, if you call her up right now, just out of kind of her heart, but she is like if you asked her, hey, can you do this? She'll go do it. And that's kind of slave mentality too. They're like, oh, I'll do this for you, of course. Yeah. I'll put everything down. Yeah, absolutely.

You know, it was different with her when she was being very submissive to me or being a slave to me in a sense, because she was always resentful about calling herself a slave. But I think it the underlying problem was she when she wasn't sober, I didn't realize when she wasn't. And when she was sober, that was a big problem.

But I think it was if she relinquished herself completely to me, it was just that one last thing that she held back doing because she knew that I would not be all for her. And she basically has to share me with my husband and with. That doesn't make it hard to fully surrender. Yeah. So how can you? That makes sense. Yeah, because she was very resentful of my husband, because she. Wants to be a full time slave. That's it. Or full time. So whatever you prefer to say it as. Yeah.

But yeah, I look at it as like, I don't. Maybe it's just the word slave is I don't like the word slave, but maybe I am one. But I'm over here like I'm kind of bratty. Like if you tell me to do something and I don't want to do it, I'm not going to do it. But I still want to be treated in a way if I don't do it. Like I don't want to do it, but I want to be made to do it even though I don't want to do it. It's an odd feeling when Subs

have that mindset. Yeah. So it's easy to detect it in others. Well, a certain somebody asked me the other day, he said, So what are my kinks? And I said, honey, I've known you for years so I know what your kinks are. One, you have a fear fetish. He loves to be scared. So again, I will do breath play with him. I will scare the shit out of him. And because eventually if I don't scare him anymore, it's not fun. You know, it's not fun for him.

It's not fun for me. And besides from the fear factor of things, when he was a kid, he used to find himself when he, he said he was 5 or 6 years old, he would go in animal traps. You know, he lived out in the woods from where he lived, you know, and it was kind of, it was right in the back of the yard. I mean, people put out animal traps. And he said there was something in him that wanted to get in the animal trap so he'd get in it and then have a hard time getting out. But he loved it.

And I think even then he was getting aroused, you know, at such a young age. It was interesting when he was interesting. Yeah. When he talks about it, you know, it's interesting. But then he was saying that there was, there was another time when he was a kid, he, his body had no buoyancy because he had no fat on him. He was very skinny. He was underweight. And so skin and bones, literally, he said that he was in the pool and he kept like

kicking, kicking, kicking. And then he'd find himself up against the pool filter where it would push out from the jet. And he said not only was he struggling to swim, but kept pushing up against it to rub against his Dick. And you know, this is like 1213 years old. Then he's like, oh, and he said he found himself surrounded by people in a public pool, this happening, and he fucking ejaculated just that. Wow.

So it's like, wow, yeah. But he said that was, it was so powerful with the fact that he could have drowned because he put himself in the deep end, because he knew that he would start getting tired because he still can't float. Even now he cannot float. He just. Sinks. That's funny, isn't? That funny? Yeah, he's sweet.

But anyway, he said. I told him I said the fear factor and he loves extreme bondage so you know, but if it were up to him, if he didn't have to work, he would love if I just had a sell for him and tuck him away from the rest of the world forever cutting all ties, being a permanent slave and that would be it. I would go crazy. You'd go crazy, right? But you know, everybody, they probably need it, you know? They probably need it, Yeah.

And it's really just based on environment and what you grow up with. And that was that was something that he just he could deal with. And I think that he would be completely content like that. I had harsh punishments. Yeah. Where we would have to cut the grass with scissors. Yeah, that that was insane when you told me that. I pull the weeds out of the fence. We have 2 1/2 acres, so the fence was all the way around. Yeah, go pull the weeds at all.

And it's like grated like a chicken wire. Yeah. So pulling all the weeds out of that stickers doesn't matter. Pull it out, rake acorns. And acorns go right through a rake like. Rake the two acres. Yeah, yeah, that's insane. There's a lot of things that, you know, she liked it. Corporal punishment type of thing. Yeah, I don't. I don't like it, but I like.

It but you really like. It's odd because he's like, you really don't like it but I literally will rub my knees together and be wet that far down. It's so weird and I'm like I literally am screaming for my life. Why is this happening? To me it's odd. I know, right? Why do I like it? Well, and you know, I think with like your slave, if we take him outside and he's not doing good enough job, I need to pull out the bullwhip and you need to practice that bullwhip on him, you know.

I gotta test his boundaries on. On pain. Oh, absolutely. The first day, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna test his boundaries on how far I can go. Yeah. And then after that, I'll just be pushing it. Yeah. I'll be pushing each boundary each day. Yeah. A little bit further because I don't want to like, you know, tear him down. I don't know how much. I don't know him now, Lil PO, I don't know if he would be OK with something like that, but I know I could push boundaries.

Yeah. And, you know, it's just more about he already trusts me. So it's just like it makes it easier to push those boundaries because he feels like he can like, surrender in it. But yeah, I don't know about this guy. You wouldn't be able to trust me. I was. Going to say the biggest thing is fantasy, you know, what does your mind say? What would be your ideal fantasy? And that's something you could

ask him, you know? Same with little Poe, you know, ask him, you know, would you be happy at some point? You know, if you're doing a task and you don't do it well enough, you know, do I need to break out the bullwhip? Is that something that's going to excite? You. I was going to bring out a whip

regardless. Like when Charles, I told you he was painting, he's doing a great job, but even he would point out things and flaws about it. So it's like he wanted you to see it, but he also hated that he couldn't do it right. And if it was me, you know, I would be like, if I did something wrong and I know I did it wrong, even though it wasn't my fault, I still wanted like, OK, we need to be punished here.

Yeah, you're looking around to see where he fucked up, but you know, he literally, and I've never seen anyone do this, but This is why I've known other slaves to do it. Now, if you look at the ceiling, it's like it's never going to have a perfect straight line. You know, even if you put, you know, the painter's tape up, for example, you're always going to miss something. So he was going around with a little tiny artist brush. He is a sub, yeah.

He wants it to be perfect. For you, he wants it to be perfect. Yeah. For you though. Yeah, I get it. And it's it's it's endearing. It's sweet, Yeah. But see, it's awesome. It's almost. Like he gives himself a punishment for it, and I didn't do it right. So now I'm going to do this with a little bitty brush like my mom. Yeah, scissors on grass. That's a lot. Yeah. Just like the little tiny

paintbrush, that's a lot. But it's almost like he needed to be made to do that versus him doing it for himself and he did it for himself. Wouldn't that be some shit if your boyfriend says, hey, we're on so much acreage, get out there and cut the grass with the Pierce. I feel like he would not do that to me, but you know, I, I don't ever want to put things past them because I never know. I know he's testing limits, so we'll see. Yeah. Is there something you want him

to do at some point? I mean, I always think about him fucking somebody and then tying me up where I can't enjoy it too. Yeah, that's a punishment, kind of, yeah. Kind of I was going to say, and I've had that conversation too with my partner. So yeah, I get it. I get it totally. God, the things we talk about I. Don't know, the kinky world is great. I like that we can openly talk about it. It is. It's so great, but Subs and slaves, yeah, I'm like. The same. There is, it is.

It's so much of the same. You know, people have developed like the slave contracts. It's like. It's just the word. Exactly I. Can just say full time slave, yeah, I'm sorry, full time sub, yeah. And then it's the same thing as slave. Yeah, all you're doing is the same thing. You know, with me, I use the word slave just because I think it's more demeaning to them. And if they if. They like the humiliation. Yeah, exactly. If they like degradation, absolutely. Which?

My slave coming in does not like that. He doesn't like degradation. Or humiliation. Or it's a degradation. I'm still going to humiliate him by making him get naked in front of you. Stand there. My poor dogs are going to go. Oh God, another one. Yeah, well, I want, I hope Charles is here so you can be naked in front of Charles too. And he feels uncomfortable. I want to make him as uncomfortable as possible, you know, and he can only be naked up here. I understand.

But. Charles wants to be naked too with a collar, so we could always make both of them go out and do tasks naked in the yard. Know what? He would probably love that. Yeah. We need to. Just whenever he's here. I don't know. Is he going to be here? I don't know yet. He's his iffy. Little Subs and holding our coffee. I know, wouldn't it be great? That'd be hot. I I really wish it was PO. I know. I wanted him to be the first one I know you know.

But the thing of it is, this other one is just in town briefly. Yeah, he's only here for four days. It's like a practice run. Yeah, See what I would be OK with it's. But that's The thing is I tried everything on PO first. What was I OK with? What was he OK with? We learned with each other. Yeah, that's what I liked about it, and that's what I wanted him to be my first. Well, it'll be. OK, yeah, well, I mean I. Post not going anywhere. He'll be here.

Yeah, yeah. He can be their life and a slave is giving me a lot. Yeah, absolutely. Hold on, let me reword it. Good idea. All right, kids, I think we've had enough fun. I know I have one guy who keeps writing me and he says please take off parental control on the podcast because he can't listen to it in certain areas. I'm like, yeah, we can't do it. We have to take, we have to keep on the explicit.

I was looking at some of our our ratings and we're rating in the top five of sexuality podcasts over in a lot of countries like in Africa, in parts of Europe. That's cool. And we're just yabbering about our life that's going on. Isn't that crazy? I guess people don't really want to hear about our side of things and. I would think so. Mindsets because, you know, you don't really hear the side of the Dom, you know, and how things are played out in their minds and what it's like.

Yeah. So yeah, I could see how, you know, I, I am the Dom. So it's like, but I can see how if it was other way around and listen to the Subs on their side, it'd be cool. Which is like doing the interviews, you know? Yeah, and trust me when I have talked to other Doms, so many Doms are fucking cunts. They're just not nice people. Are you trying? To say something to me. No, I'm saying you and I. You and I are rare compared to most because.

Yeah, we have a great dynamic. I would think so, but I'm just saying as people were nice people. Oh yeah. Yeah, You know, I've, I've interviewed a couple Doms over the years and one wanted to have her own religion where they worshipped only her. I mean, that's how much of A narcissist she was. That was a. Cult. All right. Yeah. She wanted to start a cult, and there's a lot of them who do want to start cults. And I'm like, yeah, that's that's dumb. Yeah, that's just, that's crazy.

Yeah, I don't think I would want. That it's weird. Sounds like too much. Yeah, could you imagine the Temple of Live, I mean. My. Temple is there there. Your temple's there is right live. We'll end it there and thank you for listening. Go to our loyal fans. I will attach the link on that. There is some hot dirty pictures on there that we can't necessarily do in the dungeon, but we take pictures and and little videos and that kind of thing that we do on our personal

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