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Business In Colour

Div Pillay & Sadhana Smilesomny.fm

Business In Colour is a podcast that inspires, empowers and mobilises leaders and allies to understand and act for greater diversity. Hear our stories so that you understand our journey, our experiences and our wants. We bring to you leaders who are doing incredible work in this space. We know this work is not easy, we know the challenges leaders face. Our hope is that by listening to the leaders on the Business In Colour podcast, you make a commitment to act for positive change. Our businesses must reflect the colours of the communities we work and live in.

Hosted by Div Pillay and Sadhana Smiles.

This show is for you if you are interested in:

  • Leadership in Business
  • Workplace diversity
  • Inclusion practices
  • Innovative inclusion
  • Creating change 
  • Equity in the workplace
  • High performing cultures 
  • People and customer diversity and inclusion
  • Culturally diverse leadership

Get in contact with Div & Sadhana via LinkedIn 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/divpillay/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/sasmiles/ 

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Episodes

EP 69 Ariel Weindling/ #Notme - Less Words More Action

In this episode we interview Ariel Weindling who is an employment lawyer and Founder of NotMe Solutions – a practical and empowering tech solution to prevent and address negative behaviours at work, bringing transformational change to the old way of reporting and complaints handling. With the rate of whistleblowing in the Australian media of misconduct, sexism and racism, with women marching for safer spaces and to have a voice; and with Kate Jenkins - Australia’s Sex Discrimination Commissioner...

Sep 21, 202244 minSeason 3Ep. 69

EP 68 Shivani Gupta - Branson, Bridgerton & Ms Marvel

What do Branson, Bridgeton & Ms Marvel have in common, well you will have to tune into our conversation with the fabulous Shivani Gupta to find out. Shivani is a Mental Wellness Expert, Speaker, Author and Mentor and is obsessed with everyone having tips and strategies to manage their mental wellness. Shivani has suffered sexual abuse, racial abuse and discrimination in her life. As she navigated through these challenges, she created rituals and systems to help her survive and thrive in both...

Sep 13, 202254 minSeason 3Ep. 68

Ep 67 Michelle Gibbings - Influence Up

Michelle Gibbings is an author of 3 books, Dare to Lead coach, Global Keynote Speaker, and is on a mission to help leaders, teams and organisations create successful workplaces. Comfortable with getting uncomfortable, Michelle is at the forefront of creating workplace success by helping people embrace the unknown and fall in love with change. We talk about how we make assumptions based on past experiences on how things should be, stereotype views we may have and her own personal experience aroun...

Sep 07, 202243 minSeason 3Ep. 67

Ep 66 Mimi Kwa - House of Kwa

When Mimi Kwa set out to change the world, journalism was her weapon of choice, and it has taken her further than she could ever have dreamed, to become the first Asian heritage female on Channel Nine, anchor news to 40 countries, and interview significant decision makers and notable figures from around the globe. In Mimi Kwa’s memoir House of Kwa, published by Harper Collins 2021, she writes about her deeply personal journey of childhood trauma, as well as her Chinese father's large family of 3...

Aug 31, 202251 minEp. 66

Ep 63 Mallika Raj

In this episode, we interview the brave and bold, Mallika Raj, who is the engagement lead for the Australian Labour Party, ACT Branch, the National Chair for the Young Leader Chapter for the Australia India Business Council and the owner and Founder of SAMA Health and Wellbeing – SAMA meaning Bodily Equilibrium or Homeostasis. I know you will feel this peace and grounding when you hear Mallika, she exudes this – she is clear about her purpose, passion and places she wants to make scalable impact...

Aug 24, 202251 minSeason 3Ep. 63

Suet Koon Lai/The Tempered Radical

In this episode, we interview Koon Lai, whose energy and passion is just infectious. She has led some pretty major client transformations during her time as a PwC Director, but what is clear is how she had led her personal and professional transformation. This is what makes Koon a powerful executive coach, she has the lived experience to give to her clients. Koon shares how she felt an Invisible wall in Australia and how she used her cultural strength and communal spirit to make herself more vis...

Aug 17, 202246 minSeason 3Ep. 62

Veena Sahajwalla (Inventor of Green Steel)/ There is Value in Waste

The bazaars of Mumbai taught a young Veena Sahajwalla that there is value in trash. Veena was the NSW Australian of the Year 2022...and in her acceptance speech she acknowledged those who traded in the bazaars of Mumbai.... "The award was a recognition that waste as a material, if it's valued, could have big positive consequences. We wouldn't throw it away, we would re-manufacture things, we'd pay fair wages to people." She invented Green Steel which she describes as the "holy grail" formula by ...

Aug 10, 202252 minSeason 3Ep. 62

Alicia Vrajlal/You Are More Than Enough

In this episode, we talk with Alicia Vrajlal who is the Culture Editor at Refinery29 Australia and the Founder of the blog, Draw Your Box. This interview was so wonderfully warm and educative as Alicia offers her story of navigation and sense-making with her identity, facing into the many judgements from others: not Indian enough, not Fijian enough, not Australian enough. This resonates with Sadhana and I, as we have also faced into these judgements and emerged stronger and clearer, just like Al...

Aug 03, 202246 minSeason 3Ep. 61

Div & Sadhana/Making an Impact Together

Please enjoy this conversation with the co-hosts with the most-est, Div Pillay and Sadhana Smiles, as they celebrate their 60th episode. This is a reflective piece about how the podcast started, the impact the podcast is creating, with a little insight into how the co-hosts think on contemporary topics of inclusion in the workplace. Listen to their 'ask' or call out at the end for sponsorship - please flood their direct message box on Linkedin with offers to support them with your organisation's...

Jul 27, 202226 minSeason 3Ep. 60

Mithu Bhowmick Lange /Giving Voice

In this episode, we talk with Mitu Bhowmick Lange, Indian-Australian filmmaker, film producer…and Founder and Director of Mind Blowing Films – a distribution company. Mitu’s story is one of creating choices, seeing possibility and choosing deliberately. She is a natural story-teller and you will be drawn in with her words and how she weaves in contemporary dialogues on diversity and inclusion. She generously walks us through the Indian film industry, its size, its reach, its impact and its growt...

Jul 20, 202246 minSeason 2Ep. 59

Jahin Tanvir/Your Identity is Your Superpower

Jahin Tanvir, is a leader and an advocate for marginalised young people. At 21 years of age, he shows us that leadership is not age dependent - you can lead yourself and others at any point in your life. He is reflective, deeply self-aware, disciplined, shows a vulnerability and strength that many take years to develop and master. He asks us to see our identity as our superpower, to strive for the extraordinary every day, to be obsessed with a problem enough to work with others to solve it. His ...

Jul 10, 202248 minSeason 2Ep. 58

Hussain Ali/Playing the Long Game Now

In this episode, we interview Hussain Ali who is an engineer and finance leader. We first came across his profile in an article in The Age about managing a career and parenthood and I found his words refreshing. We think you will too as in this podcast he shares his reflections on transitioning out of the workforce onto parental leave and back into the workforce – a voice of a father that you don’t often hear. We hear first hand about the conversation with his partner before their son was born a...

Jun 15, 202258 minSeason 2Ep. 57

Anubha Sahasrabuddhe/Progress Over Perfection

In this episode we speak to Anubha Sahasrabuddhe who is the Chief Marketing Officer at Lion Beverages. Anubha is a transformational leader with global experience with brands like Mars-Wrigley and The Coca-Cola Company and we are so glad to have her back in Australia, to create a culture of inclusion for consumers and customers. This episode is packed with frank career and leadership advice and in true marketing style there are phrases that Anubha spins that will stick with you, like: “Breaking t...

Jun 08, 202255 minSeason 2Ep. 56

Rana Hussain/It's Okay To Break The Rules

In this episode we interview Rana Hussain, a diversity inclusion leader, presenter and broadcaster, and one of the very few women of colour working in sports administration. Rana’s positive energy and determination is felt right throughout this interview. It really hits me after finishing our conversation, what Rana is really going up against – she is going after diversity change in the sports industry….it is Australia’s brand globally and is still male dominated in its leadership, despite the m...

Jun 02, 202259 minSeason 2Ep. 55

Dr Michelle Rodrigues/Cultural Humility

In this episode we talk with Dr Michelle Rodrigues, an award-winning dermatologist with globally renowned expertise. She is the Founder and Director of Chroma Dermatology, Australia’s first dedicated dermatology centre for pigmentary disorders and skin of colour. Michelle walks us through reflections of being a first generation Australian, a daughter to Indian immigrant parents and how their experiences became her own and propelled her forward. She gives us an insight into the medical sciences a...

May 26, 202258 minSeason 2Ep. 54

Sally Bruce/Use the Power at the Level You Have It

In this episode, we talk with Sally Bruce, COO and CFO of CultureAmp, the world’s leading employee experience platform. She was also the ex CEO of AMP Bank and ex CFO, Business and Personal Banking at National Australia Bank. Sally begins this podcast by sharing her background from a small country town, being the youngest of 6, and having a role-model in her mum being a small business owner She describes her father as a raving feminist. She reflects deeply about her father’s disagreement that a ...

May 19, 202249 minSeason 2Ep. 53

Marjan Khalidi/Turn your Pain into Power

In this episode we interview, Marjan Khalidi who is a currently in the management consultancy space and recently is a qualified Career and Life Coach. What is so powerful in this interview is the level of deep introspection, and goal setting, that Marjan has led for herself. She walks us through her life journey as a 20 day old refugee in the arms of her professional parents as they made their way from Kabul to New Delhi to Australia in the late 80’s. She talks about the feeling of hopelessness ...

May 12, 202242 minSeason 2Ep. 52

Mariam Veiszadeh/"Critical Yeast"

In this episode, we host the fabulous, Mariam Veiszadeh, who is the inaugural CEO of Media Diversity Australia. Mariam walks us through her parents journey from Afghanistan, how it feels to begin again in a new country, giving up past lives and accomplishments. This interview is special, as Mariam gives us a rare inside view of the mental, emotional and physical toll of advocacy that comes with being a visible and vocal, migrant, Muslim woman of colour. Mariam talks about not only having a fan b...

May 04, 202247 minSeason 2Ep. 51

Antoinette Lattouf/ Find Your Audience

In this episode, we host the incredible Antoinette Lattouf, co-founder of Media Diversity Australia, fellow 100 Women of Influence, writer, author, journalist from SBS, ABC, Channel 10 and more. What we talk about in this episode is sobering, Antoinette gives us an inside view of how, as women of colour, we have to do more, in this gender equality space, to be seen, heard and to create impact - we hold down jobs, take care of families, create communities, side hustles – we are change makers. We ...

Apr 13, 202249 minSeason 2Ep. 50

Kim Rubenstein/Systems to Serve Who We Are

In this episode, we host the incredible Kim Rubenstein, law professor, author, human rights advocate and an independent candidate for the Senate, in our upcoming election in Australia. In this episode, we hear about Kim’s upbringing, her Jewish identity, her early voice in standing up for herself and others. She explains what she means by active citizenship, what our government is missing to serve us as people, and what has driven her to stand as an Independent candidate. This podcast is informa...

Apr 06, 202247 minSeason 2Ep. 49

Zoe Daniel/Find Your Voice

In this episode, we speak to Zoe Daniel who is the Independent candidate for Goldstein, in Australia's upcoming election [May 2022] and an award winning journalist. We talk about her growing up years, connection to horses, her decision to choose to write not become a vet, the support from female leaders and journalists throughout her career, her 4 years at the White House covering the election of Donald Trump and now her position as an Independent candidate. What is clear from this interview wit...

Mar 30, 202253 minSeason 2Ep. 48

Diana Sayed/No Model Migrant

Diana Sayed, is the Chief Executive Officer of the Australian Muslim Women’s Centre for Human Rights. In this interview you will hear Diana’s strength and advocacy for gender equality, domestic violence, social justice and human rights. She is intelligent, carries global knowledge, she is savvy, articulate and we could have talked with her for hours. She walks us through her personal story as a refugee, from her parents courageous journey from Afghanistan to Delhi to Australia, growing up in Per...

Mar 23, 202251 minSeason 2Ep. 47

Del Irani/Representation Matters

Del Irani, was one of the main anchors on Australia’s national TV morning show, “ABC News Breakfast.” From 2013-2016, she was one of the creators and the anchor of the award-winning talk show, “#TalkAboutIt.” She was also Fact Check Anchor for RMIT ABC News in 2017 and 2018. Del currently anchors "EY's Real Time Business" produced by Reuters Plus and she's the host of “Deeper Look from New York” on NHK World-Japan. Del started her career in journalism as field producer, traveling and living in m...

Mar 14, 202246 minSeason 2Ep. 46

Dr Susan Carland/Outsource Your Self-Esteem

Susan Carland is a well known Australian academic, author and television presenter best known for her ongoing media presence speaking on her academic speciality of women in Islam. In this episode, Susan shares openly how she went about her decision to convert to Islam; we talk about how there are extremists in every religion; about how Muslim women scholars are leading conversations about gender equality and Islamophobia in Australia. Susan shares three great strategies for women breaking barrie...

Mar 09, 202247 minSeason 2Ep. 45

Abiola Ajetomobi/Be Part of Someone Else's Memoir

Abiola Ajetomobi is a social innovation strategist and NFP executive leader. Abiola's work and passion isabout forming creative and sustainable people-centred solutions to advance social and economic agency. Abiola leads in various capacities of influence and transformational change. She is currently the Director of Innovation Hub at the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre (ASRC), a Board member of Plan International Australia and Chair of the Impact and Influence committee at Plan. She also Co-chairs...

Mar 03, 202251 minSeason 2Ep. 44

Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey/ Is D&I a Grudge Purchase?

Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey is a globally recognised authority on Diversity and Inclusion in the workplace. He is also the host of The Element of Inclusion; a weekly podcast that informs and educates using applied research and thought leadership. This episode is jam packed with perspectives from Jonathan that will make you pause and rethink your position on diversity and inclusion in the workplace – listen out for why Jonathan thinks D&I is a grudge purchase, how he explains 'ethnic penaltie...

Feb 23, 202249 minSeason 1Ep. 43

POWER/Kemi Nekvalpil

Welcome to Season 3 of Business In Colour. We have an incredible line up of leaders for you to connect with this season. To kick us off is the amazing Kemi Nekvapil. Kemi Nekvapil knows the feelings of fear, vulnerability and powerlessness. Growing up in foster care, many times she had the doors to validation and opportunity closed to her because of her race and gender. Learning to make her own choices and use her voice without apology were her first steps towards a bold, purpose-filled life. No...

Feb 16, 20221 hr 1 minSeason 2Ep. 42

Grace Papers/What can I do to transform lives/Prue Gilbert

Prue Gilbert founder of Grace Papers shares with us her journey to founding Grace Papers. Launched in 2015, Grace Papers is a social change business leveraging technology to drive gender equality. It is a coaching tool offering advise on negotiating parental leave and flexible working conditions for both men and women. Earlier this year, Div and I appeared on Prue's International Woman's Day Panel and there were a number of questions that we were not able to answer. Towards the end of the podcas...

Nov 17, 202151 minSeason 2Ep. 41

Barkindji Warrior//Shantelle Thompson

Shantelle is a proud Barkindji woman/warrior, born in NSW, mother to four kids, a 3 x world champion, entrepreneur, role model, story teller, survivor. Shantelle has faced many challenges and has risen from each one a stronger woman. In this podcast she openly shares her journey, how she felt as a fair skinned aboriginal woman who felt uncomfortable in her own skin, she could either be black or white but not both!One of 18 siblings she grew up fighting, however it was severe post natal depressio...

Nov 10, 202154 minSeason 2Ep. 40

Rosie Wheen/Water Warrior

Rosie Wheen is the CEO of WaterAid and Non-Executive Board Director at The Australian Council of International Development. In this episode we talk about her formative education experience in Hong Kong, her entry into aid work and her journey into senior leadership. She talks genuinely about not making it to the CEO role in her first attempt and her learning, positioning and success in her second attempt. It is the kind of story you don’t hear often from C-suite leaders – how they got there. We ...

Nov 04, 202153 minSeason 2Ep. 39
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