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episode of Building Billions starts right now. Well, I am so excited for this episode because I have had the pleasure of meeting this incredible woman on a handful of occasions. And then I went and stalked her social media, which is exactly what you're going to want to do. After hearing this episode and realized how much of a powerhouse she truly is. I want to welcome her feet onto building billions welcome.
From one powerhouse to the other. It's a pleasure to be here.
I love that you are such an enigma to me. I was just explaining to this this to her offline because you are just so warm and so kind and so lovely and just, like, really a powerhouse in person. And then I look at your social media and you are this influencer and walking the red carpet and in all of these places, doing all of these things that I feel like are so easy to put somebody on a pedestal and not equate kindness and being wonderful and soft to like most people, try to separate those two
because they're they can't you can't have both, right? They tell you you can't have both, but you do have that. You have this incredible life, but you also are so warm and kind. Can you walk us through how you got started in the work that you do, and give us a little bit of a background of what makes you who you are today?
Wow, thanks. Thank you. First of all, for that amazing intro. Um, I don't even know where to start, but the honest truth is to to what you were saying about being kind or being nice while being amazing. Well, well, doing what you love to do, right? You can call it what you want to call it, but one doesn't cost the other. I used to always say when I was doing charity work, that you can do good for others and yourself at the same time. So while you're giving
to yourself, you can also give to others. And by lifting others, you actually elevate yourself. And so people always think of a compartmentalized approach to themselves or to their business, to their their family and love life. They have this separation like the church and state. I don't have a church and I don't have a state. I just have that 24 hours in a day and I want to optimize every second. I want to make it like a
little cow in them. I want those to work for me because I know that this is my one life. I am the driver of that life, and I want to do the best I can for myself in that life. But that said, in doing that, you can simultaneously without spending an ounce of extra effort, do it for someone else and you're stronger together. And I believe in the squad mentality. I believe in the teamwork mentality. I believe
that what you raise yourself, you can raise others. I'm not one of those girls that doesn't want any other girl around her to be pretty or successful. In fact, if you go on my social media, you'll see all my girlfriends are super hot, younger, super successful, and I want to elevate. I celebrate that. I love to be attracted to people who are successful or doing what they love to do, or at least having the passion and desire to chase what it is that they want to do.
Because you could be anywhere in your journey. Success is a concept and what you really have to realize that you never reach your goal. If you really want to live a truly successful life, you will reach your goal one time. And if you're lucky enough to realize that goal, it'll be like on your deathbed, few breaths before you leave this earth. That is when you reach your goal. That is the end of you making plans, having things to look forward to. Then you only looking back and
hopefully you're saying, did it suck that cow dry? I'm good to go. Take me so. But till that moment comes you're never there. You're never successful. Because you got to keep yourself challenged. You got to keep yourself interested, motivated. You got to keep yourself hungry to go to any level. Call it the next level. Call it another level. But you got to keep yourself driven to get out of bed and go do something exciting with your day. How do you do that?
Like what is the what is the mechanism that you choose to keep that motivation and even look at life like you're just like sucking everything.
What's the alternative?
Well, watching television, I mean, so many people are just TV.
There's nothing wrong with it. But they don't do.
Like people who do watch television and, like, are on social media constantly and really don't have this viewpoint that you're talking about struggle to find motivation because they escape through these different avenues. And so how do you still use those avenues but also create this life that is so spectacular and you have accomplished really, It's like incredible things.
Close your eyes for three seconds. What do you hear inside your head? That's you talking to you. Is there a voice that's more loud in your head? If there is. Change that voice. Change the frequency. Go to Am to FM, FM to am, go digital. Go download. The voice that you need to hear is in your head. It's you. Are you talking to yourself? What did you. What do you want to do? What makes you happy? That's it, that's it. It begins with the seed of thought. You know,
there's the movie. Inception really resonated with me. And there's a scene. There's a scene in the movie where it says the idea. There's nothing more powerful than an idea, because once it catches in the mind, it spreads all through you. Once you get an idea, it's the seed that will become a tree that will become a forest. But it has to start with that idea. That idea is you talking to yourself? Your heart talking to your head. Your head. Talking to your heart. Your soul saying this
is what I want. This is what makes me happy. And we are trained in society from childhood to dial that voice down. Because you're told as a child, what do you want to be when you grow up? That's a lot of pressure. I don't know what I want to be when I grow up right now, and I kind of grew up and I'm still growing up, I don't know, ask me what I do for a living. And I might be like, today, it's one thing, tomorrow it's another one day I'm an influencer, another day I'm
a public speaker, and tomorrow might be a biohacker. And right now I'm a crypto queen. It's hot. But a year ago it was crashing that came off my profile quick. I'm just saying it's okay not to know all the answers to your life when you're a kid or even when you're an adult, because the beauty is you own your time and you can constantly discover versions of yourself. You can constantly challenge yourself. You are allowed to U-turn. You are allowed to turn left. You are allowed to
redefine who you want to be. Because just because some teacher or your family, or your neighbors or your friends put an ideology of you that this is who you need to be. This is your definition of success. If it's not resonating with you, if it's not making you excited to get out of bed, if you wouldn't do it for free, then do something else. It's okay to turn your back on your past that led you to
where you need to be. If that means you're turning in a different direction because there's no mistakes, falling off the horse is as important as riding it like Seabiscuit, because in the failure comes your opportunity to learn, to educate, to strengthen and to reevaluate and come back stronger. Nobody rarely wins their first race, right? Get a train. You got to get good. Venus Williams didn't go into the first match and win. She came in hot and amazing
but got there trained from childhood. It wasn't like you were born winning tournaments. So everybody needs to calm down a little bit. Chill, relax with the self pressure and relax with the FOMO. And by all means, don't go into my social media and look at my life and think that something is missing from yours. Because everything I have, I gave myself, there's no daddy, there's no husband, there's no provider. I am my provider. And the bank that I rely on is the Bank of Guerlain. And it's
here between my ears. This is my bank. You got your bank and you have your bank. You're born with it. So one of the mistakes that women do to women, I think the moms, is that they they say to little girls, and maybe it's changing in today's generation, but in my generation, growing up, find yourself a rich husband. I am a rich husband to myself. I am my own rich husband, and that gives me the power to own my day, to own my time. What I got,
I earned myself. It's not about the stuff. Because if somebody gives you a beautiful ring or a beautiful handbag, you're happy for three seconds. Then what? Then you're like, resent the person because they didn't give you something the next day, and then you want more things, and then you become transactional, and then you're treated as an transactional in return. And women wonder, why is he treating me like that? Why did he treat me? Well, you set
the dialogue by being transactional. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love getting gifts. There's nothing wrong with that. But that is not what is my mission in what I surround myself with. self-worth. I surround myself with people that give me goosebumps and they make me think like, man, I need to do more. Like, look at my partner, the guy I date. He's a superhuman Superman. And I'm thinking, I haven't done anything in my life. I'm not jumping out of airplanes or running across the world with my
feet burning off or flying helicopters. I always surround myself with people that are more successful, more inspiring, more rich. I want to be the smallest person in the room because you know why? They will bring me up and I bring other people up along the way, because it's so rewarding to give back and share with other people what you've learned along the way. That is how knowledge should be acquired and passed along. So when you look at it like that, there's no room for the ego
and the patting yourself on your back. Or this I am this or that, because I am none of it. I'm just me trying to fill my days with joy and excitement and fulfillment, and then keep going and do it again. And then if you define that as something aspirational, go do it. And if you want to learn how, I'm here and I'll share my my system with you. Um, but the only voice that you listen to is your own, and that will drive you. If you have other people in your ear, it's time to change them. Mm.
It's beautiful because most people are listening to other people or watching other people's social media accounts and thinking, I'm not there yet. I don't have that. And then you start putting labels on, oh, she got lucky. She was born into this. She was able to do these things
that I wasn't for. Insert the blank reason. So when you think about yourself and your journey with comparison to other people in your space, other people who are influencers, other people who donate their time philanthropically, how do you continue to listen to yourself and not even just like subtly kind of have those like little creeping in.
Thoughts of FOMO? Okay, I had that. Okay. I've had that illness and that's fine. But I used my FOMO as a driver. I use it as a motivator. I was like, I want that. I'm going and getting it. I didn't complain about it. I just found a roadmap. I'm here and I need to get there. Now, you you put your own Google Waze in your head and you're like, can I go this way? How do I know that can get me there? You activate your network
is your net worth. So you put people around you that are like minded so that you can kind of grow together, and you plug into each other's worlds and you elevate each other. And if the people around you don't, I don't like to say affirm, because today affirmation has been used in a completely different woke direction, which I
don't affirm. Um, but if people around you are not supporting you and empowering you and and giving you constructive feedback because I don't mean having people around you that are just your. Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. No, you don't want that. That's the worst kind of people. But people around you that are not empowering you to really live the life you want to live. Change them. There's eight people, 8 billion people on the planet. Make new friends. What's
the problem? If people around you are not empowering you to move forward? It's time to close that chapter and write a new chapter with people that will do that for you.
I figured out this hack where I will follow people or look at other people's lives. And when I do have those feelings of like, man, I'd like to do that, or like, that looks cool, and how do I create that in my own life? Instead of being frustrated with myself or down on myself for thinking that I'm lame or, you know, whatever the FOMO is, I just think I want that, and I don't have it yet. So if you just don't have it yet, you can still believe in yourself if you really want it to. Your point
about like listening to your own voice. Like, if I really want this in this lifetime, I just don't have it yet. But I will get it because it's important to me. And if I go through that whole train of thought and I'm like, well, is this really worth pursuing? As if like, it's a goal and it's something that I'm going to go after or is or is it not that important? And it's just some like, silly thing, maybe I don't really want it and I can be happy that that person has that, but that's not my
path and that's okay. That it's not my path.
If you don't miss it before you go to bed, you didn't actually want it. It's very easy to be influenced into thinking you want something. It's trending. It's cool. Everyone's doing this. Everyone's doing this trend, I need it. I've seen people literally go on vacation because they want to be somewhere, because they want that picture that their influencers are doing. If you don't miss it before you go to bed, you don't need it. Listen to your
inner voice as your guide. Simutaneously. It's great to be influenced because that's what we're doing. We're showing people cool things to do and cool ways to do it. But always take a step back and go, this. Yeah, I like that. That works for me, but not this one doesn't. Don't be completely gullible. Simultaneously are so easily influenced. Just because someone you look up to is doing it doesn't
mean that you need to do it. And what I've always said to my community don't get jealous, get inspired, get inspired, then get motivated, get motivated, then get into action. Because that's what I did. I identified as a teenager what my life needed to look like. How did you do that? So I was, for me, my environment.
I really want the story.
I just, I was fascinated. I was born in Israel and then when I was quite young, we moved around a lot because of my parents jobs. And I moved to Canada, actually, I moved first to New York, then back to Israel, then to Canada, and we were supposed to only move to Canada for a year, and we
ended up never going back to Israel. And it was very difficult for me as a kid because I had my family, my community, my friends, and I was really, really, really lonely and really bullied because I have a funny name and a funny accent. And, um, there was no social media back then. There was no talk about mental health. So if you're bullied, you just had to deal with it. Um, And my inner voice was saying to me, I'm not happy where I am, and I'm not happy with this
lifestyle that's being pushed on to me. What am I missing? What do I love? And when we started traveling, we went to the Caribbean. And I'll never forget this. I was in Cuba when the family trip with family and friends, and I said to me, I like the energy of this place. I like this Caribbean vibe, but I still want the amenities of a New York Toronto energy. Worst place on earth has this? I spun the globe in my head and I'm. And I'm like 16 years old
and there's no internet. There's no none of these beautiful things. You have to you can't Google or talk to Siri. So I spun the globe in my head and I landed on Florida and I decided, um, that I'm going to move to Florida at 16, 16, 17, something like that. Okay. I just it resonated with me. I'm like, it has nice weather and I'm going to move to Miami. I've never been to Miami. I didn't know a soul in Miami. I just it just came to me. Miami. I'm moving here.
And I used to walk around telling everybody that would listen. I'm moving to Miami. One day I'm moving to Miami. And, um, I would get cast on a big TV show, um, a year later called Electric Circus on Much Music, which is the Canadian MTV. And I used to go salsa dancing every Sunday. I'm going to condense a long story into a short story. Um, long story short, we were salsa dancing. Janet Jackson, Janet Jackson's manager, sees me dancing, approaches my girlfriend, invites her to the. Invites us to
the Janet Jackson show. My girlfriend, who was no real friend. Turns out that she takes the tickets, doesn't tell me about it. Tries to invite anybody and everybody but me to the show, but she gets canceled by everybody. And on the day of the show, these tickets that were intended for me, that I never knew that were even in existence. You know, jealousy between girls and all that silly stuff. She invites me out of desperation because nobody was going to go with her. And it happened to
be a very high holiday in a Jewish religion. Sorry, mom, you're probably just discovering this now. Yom Kippur. I was supposed to be fasting, going to synagogue, but it was a very bad Jew. I decided to sneak out of the house. Something in me said like, go to this concert. I don't get invited to cool stuff in Toronto back then. And we had backstage passes. I never got invited to a backstage before. So I'm like, I'm going. So I took a bus, a subway, I walked. I snuck out
of the house. I got to the I got to the concert. We got there a bit late. Um, saw the concert, had fantastic seats And, um, this is many years ago, so I just remember that the concert finishes, the stadium is starting to empty out. I go to the front of the stage with my little sticker that says backstage stuck on me proudly, and they go to the security and I go, hi. I got backstage for Janet Jackson. Security goes, oh no, you missed that. That
was before the concert. Janet is packing up. She's going to Montreal. Concert's over. Go home, little girl. And when I want something, nothing gets in my way. And I'm like, no, no, no, I got backstage. See, the sticker says backstage. You're in my way. Move, bitch out. I'm going there. Yeah. He's like, no. And he's like three times my size. And he's like, no. And I'm like, but my ticket says backstage, do you have a manager? Do you have someone who can talk
to you? Um, and this goes back and forth for some time because all I know is my girlfriend disappeared. Um, The stadium is empty. 50,000 people are gone. And I'm still, like, pointing at the sticker, going like I'm going backstage and this guy shows up out of the blue like I've never met. And he goes, hi, what's going on here? And I'm like, hi. I've got backstage passes. And he looks at me and he goes, were you at this nightclub dancing salsa three weeks ago? I go, you're creepy,
but yes. Um. Why? He goes, you were wearing this Tommy Hilfiger outfit. I'm like, extra creepy. But yes, that was me. Does that mean I get to work backstage? He goes, I'm jacked. And I'm like, great. Who cares? And he's like, I gave you the tickets. I'm like, you didn't give me any tickets. My friend gave me tickets and she just told me about it today. He goes, no, no, no, those tickets were yours. I was too shy to talk
to you. So when you went to the bathroom, I went to your friend and said, I'd love to invite you and her to the show, and I gave her the tickets, hoping that I'd meet you backstage and you didn't show up backstage. And I said, well, I just was invited a few hours ago. Um, but if you wanted to invite me. Here I am backstage, and he's like, he lifts the rope and he goes, let's go backstage. And we go straight to Janet Jackson's bus. And I get on the bus and I sit with him and
I go, by the way, you have an accent. Where are you from? And he goes, Florida. I go, that's funny, I'm going to move to Miami. And Janet Jackson turns around. She goes, I've got this apartment HBO rented for me in Miami for the Velvet Rope tour, and I use it. You can go stay there. No. Two weeks later, I was in Janet's apartment, and I never left Miami. And now I've got my green card, and here I am. I've lived all around the world since then, but that's
what I mean with setting attention. And guys, there was no internet, there was no Instagram, there was no Facebook, there was no internet, there was no cell phones. Do you make it happen? It's manifestation by the power of putting it out there. But it's not just putting it out there, praying in your church and then thinking it's going to drop on your lap. It's everything I told everybody, and one day I told the right person and that person opened that door. And till today, him and I
are friends. In fact, he was doing the pink concert the other day, so he sent me tickets to that. He still takes my parents to concerts. My mom especially like loves it when he's in town. She goes because he's with Live Nation. And the moral of that story is there's always a door in front of you, but you're responsible to identify it, to push it open and to step through it. Life will give you those opportunities, but you have to take take them and turn them
into your favor. It's amazing. And then along the way, I've continuously looked for what is the next thing I want to build and where is that next door?
How do you not feel silly in the process, when you're identifying at 16 years old that you want to move to Florida? Nobody you know lives in Florida, or you're identifying that you want to start posting content online. And it's like before you become known for that thing and before it happens, where you have maybe the imposter syndrome,
the doubt that you feel, the uncertainty. What what is your process for, like working through your own, maybe limiting beliefs or what people know you as and getting past all of that?
Those only exist if you empower the voice that's not the one that's yours. Those exist because you want to cater to someone else's opinion. You want to please someone else. You care if I turned my likes off on Instagram? Because I don't care if you like it or not. That's your choice. I'm putting out my content. If you enjoy it, by all means enjoy it. If you want to comment, go ahead. But it's not why I do it and I'm not going to look. I don't look for myself. And it's. And I don't need to show
the world if it worked or if it didn't. If it went viral, it didn't. I don't care because I'm just doing it for me. I like it. I think the brand I'm working with might like it. Here it is. Once I post it, I'm done with it. And the point is, those feelings only come if you're giving somebody that's not you the power to tell you that you did good or not, that that post is important or not. That what you did is validated or not. If you validate yourself and I don't mean the cuckoo stuff, okay.
If you're barking and you want to validate yourself as an animal. Get help because that. I'm sorry. I'm not validating that. If you come to me and you want me to call you a pizza, I'm putting hot sauce on you and I'm gonna bite you so damn hard. You're going to regret that. So don't come to me for the crazy, because I don't do good with it. I'm not built for that. I'm extremely rational. One plus one is two. And it always has been. It always will be. And if you want to debate me on
that and you can't prove it with science. I come from scientific background. My dad's a scientist. I'm the wrong audience. So pick your battles, pick your audience, pick your tribe. And the great thing with me is I don't need everyone to agree with me. I don't need everyone to validate me. And I think that we're breeding weakness by telling others that they need to be affirmed. Hello. If you affirm yourself and you're not stabbing someone to death
in a back alley. Then you're good. As long as you're within morality and rationality and the law to what you, to you. And then build the tribe around that, that supports and elevates and also keeps you in check. You need to be kept in check. You need to be told when you're when you're in the wrong direction because you're not always going to be right. And that's where your community comes in to say, this is better. This
will work better for you. This is a different route than you thought, but actually you'll get to where you need to go faster. And that's why you should always start with your voice. But then build your board members. And your board members are your friends, your family. But even the best companies, right? Like Ten-x, you have a board, you have a team. You have a network that's keeping the the the company alive. It's just not one person.
That's why when you say unapproachable, you have to be approachable, but it's to the right person. Am I sitting in an Uber and talking with the Uber driver? Happily? Sometimes, yes, sometimes. I'm on my phone. Right. You got to pick who you exchange your energy with. You got to pick whose advice you want to take. You want to pick who that person is that you call at 4:00 in the morning if you have an emergency. And who is the friend that you call for? Which picture should be the
cover on my post? There's different, different categories for everyone, and there's a space for all sorts of kind of friends. You don't need one person that wears all the hats. You build your board, and that's how I look at it. Yeah, and they all.
Have different roles, and you put them in different roles, and you get to make those decisions of who gets to stay and who gets fired and who you're bringing on and onboarding.
Exactly. 8 billion people in the world. If somebody doesn't serve you. See you later. Yeah. I'm so with you.
It's good. So before this show started, we were talking about the billionaire lifestyle and I would love to have you share. The podcast is called Building Billions. I am a huge proponent of all people stating how much net worth they want, what financial targets drive them, and making these conversations more accessible because a lot of people aren't
talking about that. And so walk me through what you were sharing a little bit earlier about this idea of building your life as a lifestyle that pays for the things that you want and that you believe you should have.
I decided that not only do I want to build a billionaire lifestyle with the Bank of Gulen, so fueling it for myself and never being with the handouts and give me I want to build. I want to add value. I want to lead with value and then meet people. I think, how can I add value? Look, we did a project with you guys, with our creators home and with Ten-x and Gary Brecher and Ten-x Health, and, Um, I'll. I'll use this as an example. You guys sponsored a
weekend in a 30 day creator's home. So when you guys came on, is that right? Like, how do I add more value? So I took that two day sponsorship and added 28 more days that I didn't charge for you when I when we went together. We elevate, you grow and I grow and we lift each other. So first of all, your network, as you guys love to say, is your net worth. Surround yourself with people that are living the life you want to live and can open you the doors that take you to the next level.
Number one. So networking is incredibly important. Be mindful of who you keep around you because your time is limited. So having people that expand your mind, body, soul, creativity, your passions, your health and your wealth is important. Be strategic in who you spend your time with. Secondly, I thought about. I like to cut the line. So while I worked getting to being a billionaire, I'm going to find a way to live the lifestyle, but not only get to live it, get paid to live it. Because
what's better than being a billionaire? Is someone paying you to sit on the jet. Someone paying you to sit on the yacht. Someone paying you to stay in a five star hotel. Someone paying you to wear beautiful diamonds. Or a beautiful dress or beautiful makeup. And that is the power. The power is not being on a jet or a yacht, because that's up to you if that's your goal. But if you do what you love to do,
you'll never work a day in your life. And if you find a way to monetize your passions, then you're already billionaire billionaires. Because now you're getting paid to do the things you love to do that you would do with the money you earned if you were doing a normal job. So if I was working a normal job, what would I do with my money? I'd go on vacations. Really nice ones. And now I get paid to go on nice trips and share those adventures on my social media. And if I don't get paid to do it, at
least I'm not being charged to do it. Which allows me to continue just living out my passions. And by sharing it and by storytelling it, I built an audience, and now I'm a media source to the brands that want to reach that audience. And those brands are the goals of the billionaires, because that's where they want to be. That's who they want to work with. That's where they want to vacation. That's how they want to travel or
fill in the blank. And so I architect, I designed the lifestyle that I want to live without having the means to live it, but by finding a different currency in my billions is my digital currency. And we all have that. We all have something to give. You might be really good at styling. I love your style. I might call you for fashion. You're like a real life Barbie to me. You are. So is she. So she's like,
we're we're we're Barbie sisters. And so I might call you and be like, you've got such great sense of style. You're so feminine. How can I be a little bit more feminine? I could be like a bully, like a bulldozer, you know? So everyone has something to give. Everyone has something that inspires someone else. Everyone has gone through an up and a down, and in that experience, they learned something. And that knowledge is valuable to someone. Someone's trash is
somebody else's gold. So it's not about me and what I've done or what you have done. It's about acknowledging in yourself what it is that people come to you for, and how you could turn that into the business and what people come to you for. You're good at. If it. You're good at it. Means you kind of like it. And if you like it, you're monetizing it. And now you're getting paid to do what you love to do that you would anyway do for free. And so your
life is becoming the bank. And if it leads you to a millionaire or billionaire and that's your definition of success, then great. But billions is an abundance. And abundance can be designed and defined in so many ways. You could be living in a humble tikki in Ubud, Bali, waking up to your monkeys and coconut. But you are a billionaire because you own your time. You're at peace. You're surrounded with beautiful nature. You're eating. Organic farm to table
nature's food. And you're not poisoning your body and you are living an amazing quality of life. Do you have billions in your bank? No. But do you need it? No. Also remember, don't desire what you actually don't need. How many people do I know that have multiple homes? They haven't been to the second, third, fourth, fifth home in forever. I had a friend in, um. I'll tell this story. I won't say the name. A billionaire friend in Mumbai, India. And I went to his house and he told me, ah,
do you like my pool? I just moved it. We're in his mansion. I go, what do you mean? You moved your pool? I go every two years. I move the pool to a different part of the house. Sometimes I put it on the roof, sometimes in the backyard. Sometimes we build a new floor for it, sometimes in the front. I go, what do you do that? He goes, it's fun. I mean, I'm bored. And then he took me to a room that had Monets and Picasso's and all this art, and he had to go look under
his multi-million dollar art. To like this one is to tell me, Picasso. No. And I'm like. And he's like, I've been in this room two times. I'm like, well, why did you buy all this art? Oh it's valuable. It's it's, you know, it shows that I can. And I'm like, why would you spend this time and effort acquiring something to stick it in a room that you never go to? At least put it in the toilet. So when you have a poop, you can look at it and appreciate it. Appreciate it, you know, make the
time go by. I'm just like, I would put it in my toilet. At least I look at it, you know? I mean, I hang up art in the toilet. I think it's a great place. You spend time in there. It's important people undermine that real estate. It's true. It's a good time. I'm just saying that's a good tip.
I was actually just using the.
Restroom in our.
Office. It's. There's no there's nothing in it. I'm like.
It's just to give you magazines. But nobody reads magazines. They're all in their phone getting like, you know, like what would be a next version of a humpback? I don't know. Humpback of Notre Dame. Yeah, all of us. Hump neck. Neck issues for sure. Double chins. Great. And so. Hey. Yeah. Well, reality, the the Instagram versus reality side, right? Totally. All day long. And just try to type like this. But the point I'm saying is these people have all the wealth they
can have. I have a friend that's made $700 million since Sunday till today. Oh, wow. In crypto. He's not gonna live long enough to spend that. I don't know. That's in a few days. Yeah. Wow. Well, you know, what's he gonna do with that? Buy another yacht. He's got seven. Buy another jet. He's got two. Buy another home. He's. But he's got one. But only he can only be in one home. Yeah. So all I'm saying is desire. What will actually fulfill you and know where the point.
The tipping point is where your desires become your enemy. Where they start to torture you. Where that self-doubt comes. Where that. Oh my God, I don't have this. That means I'm a failure. I can't show it off to my friends, my Birkin or my watch or my. Who cares what? Um, so you have to find that balance.
Because billions is your ability to wake up in the morning, be at peace with yourself, own your day and go to bed going like I am grateful for x, y, z because today I did things that I feel grateful for. And if that's getting you to bed at peace, you're a billionaire. Yep, you're doing it right.
You know, I think of those people who are making that amount of money at some point. You can only buy so many things, right? There's only so many watches or bags or you name it, jets. Um, but at some point. I find this with myself. Often I like, do I really need this? I think everybody at whatever threshold that they're at can really ask an honest question like, do I really need this thing? And does it bring me joy? Or does it add to my life in
some way? Or is the motive behind this to impress somebody, to have some status symbol to fill some void, to
just have another thing like a dopamine hit? But then once you like, reach that point when you recognize that you're making spending decisions based off of things that aren't important to you, and you kind of get slapped in the face with causes and people who need you, all of a sudden, the motivation can very easily turn to, well, I want to make more money, not just to spend on whatever I want, but to be able to make an impact. And I know that you have done a
significant amount of philanthropic work. And so how do those things tie together in the world that you live in, where there is so much lavish luxury stuff, while also being able to kind of shield that or redirect that conversation to giving back, making a difference, creating an impact, and not using wealth just for the finer things in life, but also to really change people's lives.
So it takes the same energy to give to others as it does to yourself simultaneously. I'll give you an example. When I was launching my fashion line, I had, um, in London, we were launching a fashion line. It was me and my designer, incredibly talented designer, but we didn't have. I was like 22. I didn't know it was 25 and I didn't have investors. I didn't have a lot of money. I moved to the US with $200 in my pocket. Wow. I had this is a side story,
a funny story. I had a bank account that I earned from, like, working side hustles as a teenager and then when I moved to the US, because remember, there's no digital world back then I had like 200 bucks to my name, and then I built everything and I forgot that I had a $15,000 in a bank, which, you know, is not life changing. But back then we're talking about like in the late 90s, it was a
decent amount of money. Yeah. For a 20 something year old, like 15, $20,000 in a bank from like side hustles, like selling pizzas on the weekend, working at the shoe store, being a go go dancer at bar mitzvahs, like, whatever, you know, did it. And I forgot because my parents being good Jewish parents like, save your money. So I saved it so much I forgot it was there. I moved to US $200. I only acknowledge what was in front of me, and I acted like as if I
was poor. And that mentality though, that like, that's like that fear of like, oh my God, that trained me for everything. Because even though I, my parents have a beautiful 7000 square foot house in Toronto. We live in a very affluent neighborhood. We never had to struggle a day. I literally moved to Miami. I don't know what happened. I forgot, and I acted like in my mind for the first year. Like, if I don't make another dollar, I'm on the street. I'm calling my parents because I've
got too much pride. So I get a letter from the bank 15 or 20 years later, or I don't know how many years, like maybe less than, like ten, 15 years later to my parents home, which we still had. Our family home, thankfully. Is Miss Gulan deceased? No. It's terrifying because this account has been untouched for at that point over 20 years just sitting there. So the bank wants to like, close the account. They're like is don't Google me. I'm like, hello? Hi. I'm very much here.
Very not deceased. Is she deceased? And I'm like, oh, I have all this money I made when I was 16, 17, 18, and I still have that account. I've yet to touch that account. The bank knows I'm alive. But the moral of the story is you need a lot less than you realize, and you think you need a lot less. Happiness is a construct that you have to allow yourself to have. The only thing that will give you happiness
is your mindset. Getting it piece with your heart and your soul and your intentions, and you own that ability. And then everything else is a hit. Like you said, you're happy and then your brain is like, okay, what's next? That said, don't get me wrong, I have a house in London, six floors stuffed with stuff that I'll never be able to. I have more shoes than that Imelda was a crazy shoe collector. I have more shoes than I have feet will ever wear. I have more gowns
than I have. Days will live and where? I have too much of everything. Um. And I still want more. There's nothing wrong with wanting things. There's nothing wrong with motivation. There's nothing wrong with wanting wealth. I'll tell you something like rich shaming is a joke. Because if you go to any person who is struggling, they will take your spot and they will not apologize and they won't even
look back. So don't for one second think that you should sit there and feel shame for wanting or achieving whatever it is you achieve. Because believe me, there's a billion plus people that will kick you off that seat and won't even say thank you. So if you're sitting on your jet. Level up. If you're sitting on your yacht. Toast to you. And if you're dreaming of it, go and get it. Because there's so many ways today to
achieve those goals. Social media TikTok. Instagram has made it so easy for you to get your message to the world, to build a community, to build a fan base. Brands don't even look for mega influencers anymore. They're working with micro and macro and nano, and so there's a spot for everyone, and there's no excuse for you not to leave. Live the ultimate lifestyle that you can live. And you
shouldn't apologize for being hungry or motivated. And yes, while being nice, you also have to be a shark and know when to say no. And one of my favorite things to do on Instagram will surprise you. I'm ready.
Block you. Block people all day long. The haters, the negative people.
Whatever. Okay, you think I want those followers? I get rid of them before they get rid of themselves, because this is my community and it's my space. And in that space I get to decide who gets to interact because I care about my followers. I read all their messages. I respond to them as often as I can, and if somebody comes there, that doesn't resonate with me in that way, I'm not going to have a debate with them. I'm not your mommy. I'm not here to teach you
or change your mind. If you're sliding into my DM or into my comment section, or if I somehow see that on your page, you're don't resonate with my values. You're gone before you know it. Because it's my space, it's my home, and you're not going to bring anybody into your home, are you? And even though it's public, I still have that power to say not you either, because at the end of the day, your energy is even affected by the people on the other side of
that digital space. And if somebody is coming into your space and they are bullying you, harassing you, shaming you, block them, forget them, move on, replace them. It's fun. I think it's really fun. My boyfriend is too nice guy to block. I'm like, he gets harassed sometimes by people. Or the first time he had a hater, he really felt bad. And I'm like, just block. It's part of the.
Part of the process. Just I find it really motivating.
And not just in real block in real life too. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
For sure. And in real life. I don't know, there's something about people who know the right button to push. There's one thing when it's just, like, really just, like, nasty and derogatory and, like, truly hateful. And I'm all about blocking those people. But I can remember so many
times that I've actually screenshotted the direct messages. I one time, like, received a letter to my house, uh, or just comments where people point out the things that I might have been insecure about in my life, or that I've had doubts or reservations about for myself, about just how people perceive me. And there is something that is so motivating to me in seeing that, that I absolutely every single time I screenshot it. And sometimes I'm even, you know,
playful back where I will engage if you want. I won't get defensive, but I, you know, I, I find it helpful and therapeutic for me to be able to have my little quippy response back.
Oh yeah. No. Yeah, I totally. Sometimes I get into it too. Um, usually it's not. Usually I get into it on other posts or pop up on my feed. Issues that I care about that are really not part of what I'm sharing, and I get into it there. It's funny, I got in trouble a few times, but
I don't care. I'll own it. Um, because I'm not a I'm not just gonna agree with everything I see, but what I say to to what you said before, and I'll say that to anyone that has some kind of a voice or is getting some kind of feedback. If you're getting feedback that's negative, Look at yourself as a power station and look at that feedback as energy. And you are milling the energy and you're converting it
into power. You have the ability to take all the hate that the world can throw at you and turn it into your superpower, turn it into your what fuels your batteries? And you could laugh at all those that want to bring you down. As you go up, wave at them as you go up because they are victims of their hate. They are disabled by that hate. They are paralyzed. They are sitting in their grandma's basement in the dark, thinking and putting their energy into you while
you don't even know they exist. And what? You might have acknowledged that comment for a millisecond and engage it for another millisecond. You move on with your incredible life and they stay in their misery. So always be the person that takes the shit that the world wants to throw at you and turn that into gold.
Amazing, I love it. Well, you are spectacular. Thank you for being on this show. Please check her social media out. She is fantastic. And where can people find you online? What is like the platform of choice for you? Um.
Instagram. Instagram official. Okay.
And if they decide to comment something nasty, she's just going to actually.
Read the comments. I don't read all the comments all the time, but look, at the end of the day, it's I'm not saying that you you have to agree with me. I'm not looking. But if you come in there, like I'll give you an example. As we're wrapping up, anti-Semitism has been like in on an insane rise. You can go and have your opinions, whatever. If you come into my page and you're going to go and chanting against the right of my family to exist. I'm gonna
block you. I'm not gonna go and give you energy and try to say. But why do you think like this? If your mother didn't educate you, then there's no hope that I will. So if you're coming for. You're so wrong on something, I'm going to hit that hate button. But if you say that you don't like my hair or my outfit, I don't care. I'm not gonna block you for that for sure. I'm saying there's there's a line that people cross. I just remove them for everything else.
Who cares? Totally. Don't give it energy.
Yep. It's just a second of time. It's a blip in a lifetime. And you get to go. Keep creating your life.
Use your time to be your power to build your billions.
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