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the story about how oranges appeared while on the retreat. Give us a reminder of white oranges. What about the oranges?
Yeah, so 2017 Yep. A year a year, and some change after get up and go started Alex, who was our first ever tour guide, reached out on Instagram, and his handle was finding wild Florida, and he was just like, I really like what you're doing. I'd love to be a tour guide or help in any way. And this was at the same point that, like, we started going
viral for the first time, Oh, yeah. And I needed a tour guide, because I was like, Okay, I can't be on the water and answering phone calls and emails and all that at the same time and whatever. Or just doing seven tours, or seven days a week of tours. Um, so ended up training Alex in the first day of training. We were out there, and he pointed out, we're at Rock Springs. He pointed out a wild orange tree, which I had
never seen before. And he just like randomly knew all these facts about, like, wild oranges, which I thought was really cool. Ended up hiring him, and then a few months later, he on his day off, went cave diving, didn't resurface. We got in touch with his parents. It was just a whole thing for a few weeks, because they sent divers down there, they couldn't locate him after a couple weeks of diving. I think it was like at the end of week
two that they finally found him down there. But the day after we learned that he was missing, I had brought, actually Austin out, who's our Crystal River franchise franchisee, and when we got to the very top of Rock Springs. I was training Austin on how to be a tour guide, so when we got to the real to the top of it, which is like the prettiest spot, it's like bright blue water, all of a sudden an orange, just like literally, is
floating down the middle of the river. And I was like, Whoa, that's crazy.
Well, pause, and another orange thing is, I remember when there was, I don't know if it was when there was news of Alex or something, but when you opened your Instagram, it was a picture of an orange, just literally a giant picture, first
image, and it was at Rock Springs, yeah, yeah. It was crazy. I think that was actually, like the next year on the day that we were got it, that we were doing the donation day, which was crazy, or something like that. But anyways, I picked up the orange that was floating in the water and I ate it, because I was like, Oh, this is kind of, yeah,
yeah. It was really good. And so anyways, the orange has always been associated with, like a sign of Alex saying hello, you know, or just acknowledging, look, guys, there's an orange. Yeah. So Tia randomly grabbed a drink today, and it happens to be orange. So that's kind of where the the origin of the orange started. Told Alex's family all about it. We've been in contact since 2017 when all of this happened. Just crazy. This is coming up on year seven. Now, literally insane. Yeah,
it's wild. But anyways, so the orange has always been kind of a symbol of Alex in that moment in get up and go's history, and just being the first tour guide ever willing to take a risk on us, I kind of took a risk on him, because I had never hired any he was my first hire. You know, I think if he was still here, he would probably own a few franchises,
somewhat very involved, yeah, with the brand, yeah, any, yeah, any of that stuff. Yeah. I'm a big believer in all things signs, and I feel like you were a little bit of a skeptic, I my opinion, and it's just funny, because I feel like I've always been really into it, and I don't think you really dealt with, like, a big, huge, you have dealt with loss. But I feel like this is a very It feels very close. So it's just. I feel like
the signs that you see are so undeniable. Yeah, they're so like, Yeah,
you can't miss them. I know. I know, yeah. So the one time the Instagram post, like, literally woke up that morning opened Instagram in the top, the first thing was, like, just like a hand holding an orange in the location tag was Rock Springs. And that was crazy. One year I on the way to Rock Springs, we do it. We do a donation day where we give 100% of the revenue back to some sort of conservation or something
like that. And one of the anniversaries that I was driving out there to go on site, there was a license I saw like one or two cars on the drive, and there was like the first car that I saw had a diver on the license plate. So I was just like, yeah,
it's been crazy. So anyways, fast forward to this retreat in New Mexico, and the only morning I got up early to do the early morning activity, which you know, is so unlikely, yeah, 645, hike, you know, so very early we're going to watch the sun rise and we're it's a relatively longer hike, and we've got to walk up a ridge, or hike up a ridge. So anyways, wake up early. Do that? Start hiking? My stomach starts hurting, and I'm just like, oh no. And we're already 30 ish minutes away from
where we started. So I'm like, Okay, we're too far to turn around. So anyways, we get to this. We get to this, like, wooden shack on the on the middle of the property and and as a reminder, it's 2500 acres this property. So there's like nothing out there. There's only a couple buildings on that whole amount of space. And there's this little wooden shack that they use for this activity on the hike. So we get to the shack and they tell us about Milagros, which I think is like magic in
Spanish. And essentially, they have a bag of little trinkets that they pass around. You reach in and grab one, and then you hammer it onto this wooden shack. Can
you set the scene? As far as the bag? Like the bag, you can't see the bag, yeah, the bat,
it's a huge bag. It's not picking, yeah, it's like, it's like a trick or treat bag, like it's full of these trinkets. And they just, yeah, they literally just pass it around. They tell you, like, you know, just reach in and grab one. And so I'm standing there and like, my stomach is hurting, so I'm like, I'm like, All right, come on. Hurry up. Hurry up, so we can get through this. And they pass the bag around. And so I reach in and I and I didn't like, I didn't like,
reach through to grab a bunch. I just literally reached in and grabbed the first one that my my hand touched, and I pull it out, and I'm like, I'm like, is that a freaking orange? And it was hard to tell. And a lot of people were like, What is my they were all kind. They're hard to, like, tell exactly what they are. So before me, like, confirming that it wasn't orange, I, like, asked two other people. I asked, like, Habib orange, and I didn't want to give them any backstory. So I
was like, What? What is mine? And they were both like, it looks like an orange. And so I was like, Okay, it's definitely an orange. So I was like, Holy crap. This is crazy. I didn't get to tell anyone in that moment. One, my stomach was still hurting and and so I was hurrying. So I grabbed a hammer, quickly, hammered it onto the shack there, and then I was like, Hey, I'm gonna i Which way are you guys going? I'm gonna go the opposite way because I need to use the bathroom. My stomach
was like killing me at this point. So I run behind a bush. I use the bush for the bathroom, and then I come back. They had already started hiking up the ridge, my stomach is still killing me. So like we're going up this, like steep ridge. Elevation is, like 6500 feet, so you're, you know, like you're getting a little tired just from walking in general. Anyways, we make it up to the top of the ridge. We watch the sun rise.
Andrea had a moment up there with James and just even with herself, I think we all kind of like, went and sat in our own little spots and, like, had our own little moment of, like, watching the sun come up and just looking at at the land and how like, vast it is. And, yeah, and I get up there and I'm just thinking, like, how crazy it is that there's an orange. This isn't a bag of fruit. Yeah, no. It's like someone else got like a boot, someone got a dinosaur chicken, someone got a leg Some,
yeah, that's what the dinosaur what a dinosaur chicken. She's like, I think this is like a dinosaur chicken. So, like, very random things,
there's like, we have a picture. Yeah, you can see we
have a photo. I'll throw it on the on the overlay. But James got like, a pair of lungs, which was funny, because then he had to go, like, up this hike, and he had to stop along the way. So we all kind of had these, like little signs, weird. And it was cool because, um, Carrie got the got the leg, and she had a near death. She had a death experience where she died. It because she broke her leg, and, like, severed the artery in
her leg, and then they she pulled a freaking leg. They got her back to life and and she pulled a leg so, like, we all had these little cool things that, besides the dinosaur chicken, we were still trying to figure out what that meant. But anyway, so, so the next later on, when we got back from the hike, I was going to say the next morning, but it was that same morning we did that circle time where we had to pass around
the stick and kind of just say how we were feeling. And so instead of me saying how I was feeling, well, I kind of did, but I got to retell the story of Alex and the importance of the orange. And it was funny because Julia and Habib both, like, saw that I had an orange. So they, like, were putting together the pieces, you know, as I was telling the story. But at the end of the story, I was like, I didn't tell anyone what I got out of the bag until the very end. And then I was like, Julia,
what did I pull out of the bag? And she was like, an orange. Was, everyone pretty shut and everyone, yeah, I'm crying. Everyone is all teary eyed. And you're like, when you're doing the circle time, it's like, kind of vulnerable. Anyways, you're telling people how you feel, and, and so, yeah, when I start crying, it's hard for me to like, to live in it. Justin
has this thing. Like, once
you Yeah, once you hit the tears start, yeah, it's hard to, like, turn it off, yeah, which is fine. And you're quick at turning yours on and off,
I know, but I wish it had more of an effect on you. I feel like, I feel like, because it's so it turns on so easy, and turns, like, literally earlier. You can probably flip to a clip of that. I can turn it on and off very quick. I can, like, reel it in, and just kind of when I kind of when I feel like the tinkle in my nose, I'm like,
Yeah, it's hard for me to know yours yours is like, a well, yeah. So anyways, shared the story. Teared up. Definitely was crying. And it was funny, because we all just called it, like, leaky. We were all leaky the entire couple of days, you know, we were, there were so many times where we were all like, sharing things and just tears would just happen, and we're just like, okay, so anyways, like I was the first one that morning. They were like, whoever feels inclined to
grab the stick and talk and share first, feel free. So I grabbed it. And usually I'm not the first to, like, do that kind of thing. So yeah. Anyways, I shared, and then James was sitting next to me, and he shared next. And he during what he was sharing, he was like, you know, and this morning I grabbed, I forget if he grabbed a full orange or orange juice. It was one of the two. And he's like, I have not had an orange in I can't tell you how long, like, how many years I haven't
had one. And he's like, this morning, I just felt like I needed to have one. So we did. And, like, literally, four other people, once we got around the circle, all had similar like, I have not had orange juice in several years, but I saw some, and I really wanted to have it. I had orange juice that that morning, and I didn't even, like, remember, until everyone was saying it. And so it's just like everyone had a little bit
of the the orange and added to it. So that whole morning was just, was really interesting, but teary and really cool at the same time. And just crazy that that happened on I wasn't expecting that to happen, you know, and it just kind of happened. And I emailed all of Alex's family on the way, on the
flight back, and told them all about it. So they were all, they were like, now we're crying, you know, but it's cool, like, I really enjoy checking in with them and and just hearing their stories too, because they've had their own little things with, like pennies and and their own stories with, with Alex. So yeah, that was a really cool moment in the entire trip, and a meaningful moment. So it's fun to be able to share it with
everyone else. And then, since then, like, even on LinkedIn, sometimes the others will comment on something and put a little orange emoji afterwards. So so I think it'll be a thing that'll kind of stick, you know, for a while. So, yeah, so that was the, that was the orange thing. It was crazy. And
I didn't, I didn't know how we were going to start this talk, and I inadvertently grabbed and one of our so this is funny. Yeah, you don't have to put any of this in. But like, I on our where we got engaged, they had these incredible, like, San Pellegrino orange shotta drinks, and so I have them in the fridge, and I haven't had them in, like, how long? Forever, forever. So I knew, I didn't know what we're gonna be talking about, but I grabbed one in, what are the odds? It's orange flavor. Orange
flavor. Yep, Orange. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Um, so, yeah, I mean, the rest of the the rest of the trip was all, a lot of the a lot of the takeaways and things are about well wellness and well being, but also, um, wisdom, like the the. Yeah, even like their name for their Instagram for the modern elder Academy is like mea wisdom, you know. So they're all about like wisdom, and how do you like transfer your wisdom to
someone else? How do you like, if you've been through trial and error, how do you help others get through those same trial and errors. And so a lot of it was just like about wisdom and Chip Connolly's wisdom and what he's learned over the years. And he had a near death experience, which took him away from Airbnb
and made him start this modern elder Academy. And when he started at Airbnb, he was like, in his 40s, I believe, and the average age of people there was like, 25 or 27 so, like, everyone called him the elder, and then he became the modern elder. So that's why it's the modern elder. Academy asked why
it was called that. Yeah, so, so a lot of the activities were focused on, like, what wisdom do you have to share with others, and what's your kind of superpowers and and, you know, how do you lean into those things more and stuff like that? It was cool. I
think it's really interesting that people I think it's normal to assume that like wisdom comes from, like knowledge and education, but I feel like what's interesting is it was in everyone was into sharing wisdom, obviously, for this retreat, but the wisdom came from like, people's experiences, yeah, like near death experiences, or like trauma or like just things that they've experienced, like in life. It doesn't maybe have to be negative, it could be
something really positive. So I think, yeah, it's, it seems like the wisdom is coming from within, and how you feel and all that, rather than like, what you know. And I think people expect, like, these CEOs and C suite people to just be like, geeking out the whole time and sharing, like, yeah, analytics, yeah. Like, I make this much money, and I do this, and this is what I do for work, and it wasn't sitting around and on phones and
doing that. And I think it's really cool that it kind of like humanizes these really successful people in business. So yeah, I think that's really cool,
yeah. So I mean, I can share one of them. I think it was kind of cool that I did with one that I did with Natasha. We sat down for like, 1520, minutes together, and we shared these questions with each other, and it helps you get to a better understanding of what your kind of superpower is. We also talked about like, fixed mindset and growth mindset, and how to kind of live more and the growth mindset thing, which was cool, but let me see if I can find the questions, because I
thought, I thought it was pretty interesting. So here we go. So the question in the activity was cool because you do it with one other person, and you ask each other the same question, but you asked the question five times, and they have to answer the question differently every time that you ask it, so you can ask one of two questions. The first question is, What business are you in? And you would say, tourism, you know, is your first
answer. And then I would ask you again, what business are you in the people pleasing business, okay? But as you get to number five, it gets harder and harder and harder, yeah, and you kind of realize that, like, the the thing that you're in business for is not the thing that you the first answer to the question, like, like, What business are you in? Yes, we're in tourism. But really we're in the business of pleasing people or creating memories or something like that. So as fun
as you like, get through that. The other question is, what gift or mastery Do you offer? So within business, or within life, just within life, within anything, we also talked about like, four different pathways to purpose. The horse, the equine experience, wine. How do you say it equine?
Equine? What did you call it equine? It's on Equinox. It's equine.
Is it Equinox? Like a Equinox?
Yeah, what the equine? Equine?
The equine experience was, was cool. I'm gonna just like, hard, pronounce the hard pronounce it. That was cool. I didn't expect it to be as cool as it was. I enjoy horses, but I was, like, going into it with like, Oh, cool. I'm just gonna have fun with horses.
Horses have, like, a wild emotional intelligence level,
yeah, they're one of two animals that have been around for. Did I write down 65 million years maybe?
Did you bring that book with you everywhere? Yeah, I did. Yeah. They
had pens for us, like, everywhere, which, which was really cool. But, so anyways, they told us all about
horses. In their history and how long they've been around. And it was cool because Lee was up there telling us about the horses, and I thought that just his storytelling is so good, you know, and so I thought it was cool that horses have been around as long as they have, and they don't really unlike a cow or different types of cows, like, they have horns, they have like things to protect themselves, whereas horses, like, don't I mean, they're they're big and they're strong,
right? But they don't have like a thing that really protects them,
like in an enclosed area. So it's like they're so vulnerable. Yeah, they
have to be they have to be smart. They have to work together. They have to understand intentions of other people or other animals or whatever. So they're very intuitive. They like, can tell if you're nervous, and they told you, like, Don't try to act like you're not nervous. It's okay to be nervous. They'll the horses will understand that, and they'll act accordingly. But feel free to, like, they, they just set it up as this, like, feel free to walk around in the
pen. There's, like, seven or eight horses and two donkeys, and have one question that you could ask a horse mentally, okay, you know, I'm not like, out loud saying, hey horse. I know that's what I was thinking. Like, are you? But I thought, you know, like, you think it's gonna be kind of corny going into it, you're like, I'm gonna ask a horse a question. And like, you know, what am I gonna get out of this? When did you ask the horse? You remember, I wrote it down. It was something
to do with, like, how are you? How do you? How do you so there's like a leading horse right out of the pack. Usually there's like one horse that everyone looks to and leads. So it's kind of like, how do you, how do horses support each other and grow together, instead of, like, all doing their own thing, because they like to be in packs and whatever. So that was, I had a couple I was going to say, which skills are the most important to do that, and then how do you add to the group?
Like, like, what do you what are you bringing to this so crazy, you asked a horse, I know. So those are the that's what I had in my head when he was telling us to write down some ideas. They gave us some time. Everyone had different questions, which was really cool. But anyways, they're like, all right, you're gonna go in this pen. You can walk up to any horse that you want to, and you can interact with it in any way, but pay attention to their head movements, their ears, their
body, their legs, their eyes. Pay attention to all of it and just kind of see how they act as you interact with them. And you don't even have to like touch them. You could just go up kind of near them and look at them and see if there's any sort of interaction they like. Told you to reach your hand out and let them sniff like your hand. So, yeah, anyways, like I walk around and I'm petting a few of them, and just kind of like seeing what their interactions are, and if they give me any
sort of like interaction back. And I had, I had done that with, like, pretty much all the horses, and then I was making my way back around. And this one horse, Tracy. I walked up to Tracy, and so I start, I start petting Tracy, like, right on the side, right behind the front leg. And she kind of, she kind of turns at me, and then she put her head down. And I was like, oh, that's that's cool. And and then she pushes her head up against my abdomen. And I'm just like, Okay, what? What's going
on here? And then she starts rubbing her head all along my side. Here I was, and I'm wearing a white shirt, so, like, afterwards, it is so
dirty. Is that the was that the eye, the, no, it's
just, like, a Nike white shirt. I was gonna say that shirt is, yeah, yeah. So anyways, no, yeah, it wasn't that way. So the horse is, like, just rubbing the head is just and it's like, powerful, like, I'm getting pushed backwards, yeah, and, and, so now I've got two hands, like, like, petting all over the face, like it was clear that she wanted some extra love, so I was petting her head. And with the other ones, I was a little timid. I was like, only petting their side, but she was
like, so fine. She was like, come pet my head. Like, here's like she was telling me where to pet her. So anyways, afterwards, we stand around in a group, and then we kind of share our interactions, or what we saw, and then the leaders of the activity, Lee Sue and the other lady, I forget her name, they told us what they saw and how they interpret that.
How did you interpret that? Go, lay down. Go lay down. Go, he's gonna listen. Go, lay down, lay down, lay
so they they tell us how they interpret it, and I'm so curious what they said, Yeah, and the biggest, the biggest one that, that I think was a takeaway, was with ronsley. He had passed like the. The the leader of the group. I think it's called the mayor of the group. It passed the just walked by, and his question was specifically for the leader of the group, and he didn't tell us until afterwards. Tell you who the leader was, either, right? No, they told us who the leader
was, but ronsley didn't know. Because of where he was sitting, he couldn't see where they were pointing. And initially they were like, Oh yeah, that one over there and that. And so like, we all forget gray one, yeah, we all forget who's who. And so he had walked past the leader, and the leader, I guess, looked at him, and like, started walking over to him and interacting and whatever. And normally, the leader is very
doesn't want to conserve energy, so just stand still. Won't move for anyone, but, like, walked over to ronsley and showed it, yeah, so that was cool in general. And as we're all standing there, I forget which horse it was. It may have been
the leader. Again, we're standing in a group. The one of the horses literally walked in between all of us, right to Julia in the middle of the group, and they were like, we've never seen a horse like walk through a group of people to get to someone and just stand there.
Did they have, did they interpret a new type of reason for that? I forget,
like, there were so many little moments of like, things happening and craziness that, like, I it was something to do with Julia and her question, yeah. And it was cool, because at first, Julia was really intimidated by the horses. She's never done something like this, so she was very, like, hesitant to go up to the horses, and would only go up if someone else was, like, betting the horse. And then after we're done, we're standing in this group, and the horse
literally just walks right over to her. I'm like, what the hell it was? Yeah, it was really, really, really, how did she react to it was she like? She was just like, whoa. Like, this is crazy. Like, does she? She was on the other side of it. I couldn't see exactly what she did, but her, one of her other things that we had talked about in different session was like,
some feeling of loneliness. So I think it was cool, like a horse acknowledging that, and yeah, that was kind of like the takeaway from that some of the other horses would like, would like, nod their head when you start petting them, or would show some sort of reaction, or the tail would start going or something. Even the two donkeys, like, came over to Dr Natasha,
who is also kind of hesitant to play with any of the animals. So it's, it's more of like, I think it's like, that they can really understand you without even needing to talk, and they can understand each other, which is how they've lasted as long as they have. They they have this whole way of communicating without needing to do much. And the takeaway for me is kind of like, you can communicate in more than just sitting and
talking with someone. You can show little things that people will catch up on, that will show that you're a leader, or will show that you're in this together, or, you know, those
types of things, I think were the big takeaways. But it was just cool that we all, kind of, each of our questions kind of had to do, do with the entire theme of, like, all of the activities that we had, you know, so, like, for me, one of the things when we had to, like, throw something into the fire and get rid of it and replace it with something new, was, like, when I'm overwhelmed, I need to verbally, like, ask for extra help, instead of just being like, Oh, I'll take care of it
myself. So I think part of my question to them is like, how do you rely on each other? And so it all kind of like, entangled with other parts of the the experience. So it was cool. I just, I don't know. I never, you never take the time to, like, really analyze what a horse is, how a horse is interacting with I've never taken the time. No, I don't know if people do.
We don't have a horse, yeah, so maybe if we had a horse, we'd be, yeah, like, what is it telling me today how crazy that they the horses are there for that reason. I'm assuming, like they're not, are they riding? You
can ride them. And they use them for the property as well. They're trying to build a regenerative land out there, and the horses are a part of that. So they're used for multiple things. But this is one of the key things, is having this experience for for the groups of people that go there to interact with them, and they're just very calm. They they they're like these big, strong animals, but they're so calm, and their interactions are just really, really interesting.
And I was watching, like other people interact with them too, to like, see if I could see anything that was happening. And I would catch the little ear movements or the eyes or the head nods, or just the moving around and stuff like that. So it was cool, but the main leaders of that were telling us that that they hadn't seen they hadn't seen the group of horses interact with a group of. People like us, like ever. And they were like, the energy is like, friendly, friendly, very
friendly and welcoming, and not skittish, not skittish. And they were like, You guys have this energy that they can obviously feel and sense. And, yeah, it was, it was just really interesting. I never expected that. Going into it, I was thinking, like, are we gonna ride horses? Like, I didn't know what to Yeah. And now I'm talking to a horse, and I'm like, What is going you know, like, telepathically, like, what is happening here? So it was cool. It was a lot cool. That
activity was a lot cooler than I thought it was gonna be. And then even afterwards, we went and talked in another little like, barn building on hay bales, which was cool. That is so fun. And there was a little entrance for where they where they would typically bring the horses through there, but it was blocked off, like, like, waist height. And one of the horses, like, kept trying to get in. Like, he would poke his head in and, like, look around at us, and he kept trying to get in. He
almost broke the the lock to get in, what the room with us? So I just love, I don't know. Yeah, they've really wanted to, like, be around us and be in there with us. It was, yeah, it was, they were like, we have never seen these horses, like, act like this. So it was really cool, yeah, to be able to interact with them. And you would have loved it. I was like, Oh, my God, Tia would have died for this activity. Like, it was cool. Yeah, all things animals, they're so smart. We need a cow,
a cow experience. We're working. Listen,
I was looking at property in Idaho today. They say that Driggs is going to be the new Jackson Hole. Okay, so I think getting a little slice of land over there maybe smart investment wise could be and then we could keep, like, a cow, a couple horses and some chickens and whatnot on the property until, you know, just get a little farm hand,
and then we could get our own Lee. Yes, yeah. He was Lee. Was so cool. We I got to tell him the I got to tell him the Alex story when we were hiking back. Yeah, he knew my stomach was hurting because I had asked him where they were going and I needed to go use the bathroom. He thought it was funny that I called them facilitaries. Oh, he hadn't heard them, no, so he thought it was funny. So anyways, he was walking with me on the on the hike back, is your stomach
better? Yeah. He was like, how you feeling? Are you good? And and I got to tell him the Alex story about the orange, because that had just happened, and I knew he wasn't going to be at the thing after. So he was like, so thankful that I had told him. And the first night that we were there, we did a campfire, and he was singing, like, what a freaking dream country cowboy vibe songs, you know, when we were sitting around the campfire, and there was also a guitar player who was singing as
well, and they gave us all lyric books. Yeah, we got bracelets later, but they gave us lyric books that we could read along and sing along with too. So everyone in the circle is like singing along, even if we don't know the lyrics. Which is so funny. And then he had his three dogs which were just following him around, yeah, everywhere, which was cool. We obviously love dogs. So it was the dogs, like, came on the hike with us, came up the top of the ridge. They're like, jumping around,
yeah? They're like, jumping around rocks that are, like, on a cliff. That's life for them, and that's just normal, yeah?
And if we did have property, that would be normal, yeah? I mean, they have too many boundaries. Yeah? Wait, so was that like all because I have a list of questions for you about vibe in general, and yeah, the whole thing as a collective but is there any other stories that you want to tell that maybe we can clip? Yeah,
go into that, not necessarily like specific stories, but I think just the time that we all got to spend with each other was was really, really cool. And even at the end of it, a few of us were talking like, would we have liked to do this activity or this whole retreat at the beginning of vive? And how would that change things, compared to doing it at the end? I think it was cool doing it at the end, because now we really feel a deeper connection with each other. We
got to know each other even more. And it was just like a really, like, ah, way of of ending the the entire experience. And I think if it was at the beginning, it would make that that little bit different leading into it. But the last day was really cool. We had a, you know, kind of like a quote, unquote graduation dinner, where we had to, they had a screen, we had to kind of guess based on gifts that were on the screen of like, who the screen is portraying. So that
was fun. And then each of us were assigned with someone else to to say something about them, as we're doing that last dinner. So it was really cool to be able to hear what the one other person had to say about us. So Jessica, you know, had me, and so she was saying it was good, because me and her had an activity together, so we got to know each other even more and how similar we are in our thoughts and the ways that we do things. And you. Our mindsets. And so she said that, you know,
a few minutes about me, and then I had Habib. So I got to talk about Habib. And you know how strong he is and passionate he is about his business and his family and fitness and fitness, yeah. So I was like, I was like, he literally embodies the word strong in multiple ways, like fitness, family and business and whatever. And so that was all teary, because we're all just being so overly nice with each other. Nice to hear nice things,
no, but having to verbalize it is always tough for me. So like, and I don't like whenever, like, I don't like speaking in front of people when you have to be vulnerable. I don't mind it like, if it's about business, and, yeah, whatever. But, you know, my voice gets shaky and I'm just like, well, you know, it's, it's
difficult to say, like, nice things about someone in a group of full of people, because then everyone's looking at them, thinking of those nice things, and then I feel like there's a spotlight, like a spotlight, everyone's looking like, ah, yeah, you know. But I feel like in that scenario, it's so genuine and like, yeah, raw that it just, I don't know it feels it feels good,
yeah, yeah, it felt really good. So it was fun to kind of end it with that, and then, and then RONZI and I got to take a car ride back together an hour and a half ish from the the retreat back to the airport. And so it was cool, getting to connect with him a little bit more, spending some time with him and and all that. So, yeah, overall, it was, it was, like, incredible. Like, I want to, I was thinking about even bringing, get up and go there and, like, doing a full company
wide retreat. Or, like, you know, like, I think it would be great for my mom to go and do, like, There's hiking on site, and these cool, like experiences and and the people there are just, like, all overly nice. We also did a sound bath. Justin loves, I think I fell asleep six times the last
time we did a sound bath. Okay, so our very first sound bath was, was it when we got engaged, or the year after? It was that it was a no, it was when we got engaged.
Yeah, it was because you booked us like, yeah, something extra, yeah. So
we, when we got engaged, we went to amangiri, and Justin booked us a sound bath with a massage. Yeah?
No, we booked the massage. Remember, they were running late. So, oh my
gosh, yeah. We booked a massage. Justin booked us a massage. They were running for like 15 minutes behind, yeah? So they gave us
a sound bath, yeah? But at first it was like, we could do a salt thing, or they gave us a few options. And I was like, I've never done a sound bath. Like, what is that? Justin,
in every sense of the word, was totally hypnotized, yeah, hypnotized, spiritually, physically. I woke up feeling even know you
ever I didn't know I fell asleep. First of all, I was like, an hour went by like, we're done, yeah? And I woke up feeling like I had had the best sleep I've ever had. So was this the exact same experience? It was similar, yeah, I going into it. I didn't want to snore and I didn't really want to fall asleep. Your brain was thinking, yeah, I didn't think I was gonna fall asleep. When I laid down, I was like, I'm not even that tired right now. But then five minutes later, sure enough, I
was like, I think I just fell asleep. And
fun fact, Justin can fall asleep pretty much anywhere, like he could fall asleep. Yeah, right here, right here, right now. But yeah, this. What's interesting is, I did a sound bath a couple weeks ago, and the lady that was leading the sound bath was explaining, and I might butcher this, but something along the lines of, what's cool about sound baths is the sound your brain is always thinking, like, that's just what
the human brain does. Like, there's never a time where the brain just shuts off, unless you're sleeping, and even then you're like, dreaming and whatnot. So the frequency of the sounds that the bowls and the whatever chimes and make, yeah, your brain doesn't understand, like, what's going on, so it actually, like, shuts itself off because it's so overwhelmed. And that's where you get that like feeling. And they say sometimes people will, like, get really emotional, have different type
of reactions. And some people it'll, like, put them into a hypnosis, almost like sleep, not an actual hypnosis where you're hypnotized, but like asleep, and an ultimate form of relaxation, because it's very hard for minds to just turn off. It's Justin not really possible. So I just think that's the coolest thing ever. And when Justin sent me his little itinerary, one of them was like, the power of sound, yeah. And I knew it was gonna be a freaking sound bath. And then he texted me, and he's
like, we did a sound bath, and I passed the heck out. And I was like, Oh, I literally knew that would happen.
So cool. And we also did a an astronomer brought us out and did, like, astrology thing. So, like, there was just all these cool little things that happened that you know added up to a really incredible lesson
is, is look up things in your area. If you see these little things, astronomer, sound bath, salt rooms, submerged. Insult whatever, yeah, I mean
circle time. Just try it. Equine experiences. Equine
experience, like, they sound kind of out of the box. You have to be
open to it, you know, like, yeah, it's not going to be fun if you're going into it with, like, Oh, this is going to suck. Like, why? No less.
But I think even just going in not knowing or like, What the heck is this about? Like, you kind of did go into it, not like, Yeah,
but I was excited for, you know. I was like, I don't know what's about to happen, but like, it's gonna be cool, you know. And it was so, so
do a sound bath, yeah, touch a horse and ask a horse a question.
All right, there you have it. Guys, that was part two of the Vive debrief with Tia. Part three is coming up next. So make sure to stick around and listen to that when it drops again. Thanks for listening. Please subscribe, leave a review all of those fun things. Really appreciate it. Hope you're having a good one. See ya.