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Build a Better Agency Podcast

Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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Episodes

Episode 526 Navigating 401k Changes for Agencies with Craig Cody

Welcome to a crucial episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan is joined once again by Craig Cody, a seasoned CPA and tax advisor renowned for his expertise in agency financial management. Drew and Craig jump straight into a timely and essential topic for every agency owner—the recent changes to 401k regulations that could have significant implications for your agency's compliance, retirement planning, and year-end financial strategy. Craig breaks down the new federal requi...

Nov 02, 202544 min

Episode 525 Agency Success in 2026 with Drew McLellan

Drew McLellan delivers a solo cast emphasizing the unique duties agency owners must prioritize in late 2025 to thrive in 2026. He details five core areas: leading new business generation, articulating agency vision and values, managing financial health, fostering employee and client relationships, and building an empowered leadership team. The episode provides actionable strategies for specialization, career pathing, and strategic client engagement, reminding owners that their leadership role is paramount for sustained agency success.

Oct 26, 202555 min

Episode 524 Maximizing Agency Valuation with Ben Gaddis

This episode features Ben Gaddis, a unique expert with experience building and selling an agency, now investing in others. He reveals what makes agencies truly valuable today, emphasizing a shift from headcount growth to lean, productized delivery and organic client expansion. Ben details implementing an "account operating system" for existing client growth and stresses the importance of a clear founder vision, differentiation, and value-based pricing, offering an insider's view for agency leaders looking to scale or explore exit options.

Oct 19, 202552 min

Episode 523 Creating a Future-Ready Agency with Rishad Tobaccowala

This episode features acclaimed author Rishad Tobaccowala, who delves into his book "Rethinking Work" and outlines the five powerful shifts transforming how, where, and why we work, from AI to demographics. He challenges traditional agency norms, advocating for flexibility, purpose, and autonomy to attract top talent. The conversation offers fresh ideas for leveraging fractional talent, reimagining office spaces, and evolving leadership from "boss zones" to zones of influence for a thriving future.

Oct 12, 202556 min

Episode 522 Strategic Methodologies for Agency Success with Ana Laskey

Drew McLellan and Ana Laskey discuss why a robust, insight-driven strategic methodology is crucial for agencies to stand out amidst freelancers and AI tools. They cover the challenges of gathering too little or too much information, the necessity of niche-focused processes, and how to communicate the value of strategy work to clients. Key takeaways include standardizing strategic processes, building reliable insight-gathering methods, and confidently presenting findings to ensure client success and agency profitability.

Oct 05, 202556 min

Episode 521 Trends and Tactics for Business Growth with Lee McKnight Jr

Drew McLellan and Lee McKnight Jr. discuss key findings from the RSW/US 2025 Agency New Business Survey, highlighting agencies' struggles with economic uncertainty, client budget constraints, and a widespread "pipeline crisis." They explore the growing importance of consistent content creation and proactive business development, moving beyond sole reliance on referrals. The conversation also delves into the strategic use of AI for efficiency, the trend of productizing services, and the evolving relationship with in-house teams, offering actionable insights for agencies to navigate a competitive landscape and secure growth.

Sep 28, 202559 min

Episode 520 Innovative Exercises for Strategic Planning with Drew McLellan

This episode emphasizes the critical need for agencies to abandon traditional SWOT analysis and adopt innovative strategic planning for 2026 amidst AI disruption and economic uncertainty. Drew McLellan outlines hands-on exercises like scenario stress testing, client empathy mapping, and reverse mentoring to foster candor and push teams beyond surface-level tactics. The discussion also covers strategies for building resilience, validating plans with outside advisors, and ensuring the strategic vision remains active and integrated into agency culture.

Sep 21, 202551 min

Episode 519 The Power of Thoughtful Client Engagement with Jamie Shibley

Welcome to another episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan shines a light on an area vital to every agency's growth: how to show up for clients and prospects in ways that build genuine trust, loyalty, and long-term relationships. To explore this undervalued but crucial topic, Drew is joined by Jamie Shibley, founder of The Expressory and expert in strategic engagement and relationship-driven agency growth. Jamie shares her fascinating journey from two decades in corporate...

Sep 14, 202556 min

Episode 518 How Stay Interviews Unlock Employee Retention with Sue MacArthur

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan turns the focus inward—with a practical conversation that every agency leader needs to hear. Joined by long-time AMI partner and Strategic Talent Management co-owner Sue MacArthur, Drew unpacks one of the most nuanced and important topics in the business: how to elevate your team, enhance retention, and lead with intention by mastering the art of the "stay interview." Sue shares her extensive experience...

Sep 07, 202558 min

Episode 517 The Secret to Agency Profitability with Michael Farmer

Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan is joined by returning guest Michael Farmer, a renowned consultant and author with decades of experience advising both global agency holding companies and independent shops. Together, they pull back the curtain on one of the agency world's most persistent and problematic issues: the disconnect between the value agencies provide, the scope of work they deliver, and the fees they collect. Michael s...

Aug 31, 202559 min

Episode 516 Mastering Credit Card Points for Agency Owners with Julia Menez

Welcome to another enlightening episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan explores a twist on the usual business leadership topics by delving into the lucrative—and often misunderstood—world of credit card points and travel rewards. Drew is joined by Julia Menez, a points and miles strategist who specializes in helping business owners and high cash flow individuals stretch their credit card points for maximum value, especially when it comes to travel. Julia, a former actuar...

Aug 24, 202554 min

Episode 515 Build Your Agency Dream Team for 2026 with Drew McLellan

Welcome to another episode of Build a Better Agency! In this special solo cast, host Drew McLellan tackles one of the perennial challenges and hottest conversations among agency leaders: how to strategically shape your agency team for lasting success. Drawing on decades of experience and access to the financial workings of hundreds of agencies, Drew provides listeners with a timely and insightful look at evolving team structures as agencies gear up for 2026. Drew shares fascinating trends shapin...

Aug 18, 202530 min

Episode 514 Building AI-Enabled Agencies with Greg Shove

Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of Build a Better Agency! Host Drew McLellan is joined by serial entrepreneur and AI transformation expert Greg Shove for a timely conversation that will change the way you think about integrating artificial intelligence into your agency. If you've been wondering how to move beyond surface-level AI experiments and truly future-proof your agency, this episode is a must-listen. Greg shares his unique journey from being a non-technical founder in Silicon...

Aug 11, 202551 min

Episode 513 Lessons in Effective Agency Leadership with Karl Sakas

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan welcomes back agency advisor and author Karl Sakas for a candid conversation about the unique challenges that come with agency ownership—and how to move "from chaos to calm." Drawing from his years of agency operations experience and his new book, From Chaos to Calm, Karl helps agency leaders recognize how they sometimes get in their own way and offers practical advice for fostering a calmer, more rewar...

Aug 04, 202548 min

Episode 512 Small Moments That Shape Leadership with Jeff Eisenberg

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan sits down with longtime friend and agency leader Jeff Eisenberg for a candid conversation about the art and practice of agency leadership. Whether you're a seasoned agency owner or new to the business, this discussion is packed with real-world lessons and thoughtful perspectives that will help you elevate your leadership game and set your agency up for lasting success. Jeff shares the compelling journey...

Jul 28, 202550 min

Episode 511 How AI is Transforming Brand Storytelling with Park Howell

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan welcomes back storytelling and branding pro Park Howell for an episode packed with practical advice, fresh perspectives, and a live demo you won't want to miss. Park, a former agency owner turned global storytelling coach, joins Drew to discuss how artificial intelligence is revolutionizing the way agencies uncover, shape, and operationalize brand stories—making the process faster, smarter, and more tan...

Jul 21, 202555 min

Episode 510 Key Strategies for Employee Retention with Drew McLellan

Welcome to another insightful solo cast of the Build a Better Agency podcast! This week, host Drew McLellan takes you deep into a cornerstone topic for agency owners: building, retaining, and growing an exceptional team. Drawing on real-world conversations with agency leaders and years of industry experience, Drew breaks down the full lifecycle of stellar employee management that every agency needs to thrive. Drew starts by revealing why agencies often miss the mark with generic job descriptions...

Jul 14, 202549 min

Episode 509 Unlock the Power of Networking with Melissa Snow

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan explores an essential yet often misunderstood business growth strategy: networking. Joined by networking expert Melissa Snow, Drew unpacks what truly effective networking looks like in today's world and why building authentic connections can be the most powerful driver for agency success. Melissa, founder of Powerful Women Rising, shares her journey from accidentally becoming an entrepreneur to discover...

Jul 07, 202557 min

Episode 508 Project Management That Drives Profit with Rachel Gertz

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan tackles a topic that agency owners and leaders wrestle with time and again: the true role of project management within an agency, and how getting it right can transform both your workflow and your bottom line. Drew is joined by expert consultant Rachel Gertz, who has spent over 15 years helping agencies demystify project management, build stronger systems, and create operational success. In this episode...

Jun 30, 202547 min

Episode 507 Transformative Agency Strategies with Marcus Sheridan

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan welcomes renowned marketing thought leader Marcus Sheridan to tackle some of the most pressing challenges—and exciting opportunities—facing agency owners today. Known for his influential book They Ask, You Answer, Marcus brings a fresh perspective to the table with the launch of his new book Endless Customers, focusing on how agencies can thrive in a rapidly evolving, technology-driven landscape. In thi...

Jun 23, 202550 min

Episode 506 How Prioritizing Fun Inspires Success with Mike Rucker

Welcome to another engaging episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan shines a spotlight on a topic that's both enjoyable and essential to agency life—fun. Drew is joined by Dr. Mike Rucker, a behavioral psychologist and author of The Fun Habit, for a lively exploration into how prioritizing fun and joy can make you a better leader, a more creative thinker, and ultimately, help you build a stronger agency. Mike delves into the science behind why Western culture tends to vil...

Jun 16, 202547 min

Episode 505 Navigating 2025 Agency Trends with Drew and Danyel Newcom McLellan

Welcome to a special solocast episode of Build a Better Agency! In this midyear trend report, hosts Drew McLellan and Danyel Newcom McLellan dig deep into the evolving landscape facing agency owners in 2025. Leveraging data, global industry perspectives, and hands-on agency experience, Drew and Danyel break down what's really impacting agencies right now and what to keep your eye on as the year unfolds. This episode covers the biggest drivers reshaping the agency world—from economic and politica...

Jun 09, 20251 hr 4 min

Episode 504 Explore the Findings of the 2025 Agency Edge Research with Susan Baier

The 2025 Agency Edge Research reveals that most clients are comfortable with agencies using AI, provided there's transparency. The study identifies three client mindsets: Embracers, Skeptics, and Opportunists. Clients overwhelmingly want agencies to be trusted guides in the AI landscape, prioritizing strategic value, improved analysis, and better outcomes over simple cost savings, presenting a significant opportunity for agencies to deepen partnerships.

Jun 02, 202549 min

Episode 503 Mastering the Creative Brief with Pieter-Paul von Weiler and Matt Davies

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan is joined by Matt Davies and Pieter-Paul von Weiler, the strategist duo behind the Better Briefs Project, to tackle one of the most persistent and frustrating challenges agencies face: the elusive art of creating a truly effective brief. If you've ever struggled with unclear objectives, misaligned expectations, or wasted rounds of creative development, this episode is packed with data-driven answers and...

May 26, 202549 min

Episode 502 The Mindset of Inspired Leadership with Christina Langdon

Welcome to another inspiring episode of Build a Better Agency! In this episode, host Drew McLellan sits down with high-performance coach and leadership expert Christina Langdon to explore what it truly means to scale your agency—not just in terms of size or revenue, but in mindset, vision, and team culture. Drawing on decades of leadership experience at organizations like Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia and Fast Company, Christina offers invaluable insights on unlocking growth and reimagining su...

May 19, 20251 hr

Episode 501 Research Insights from Agency Core with Susan Baier and Brian Gerstner

Welcome to a compelling new episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan is joined by familiar faces Susan Baier from Audience Audit and Brian Gerstner from White Label IQ to discuss the findings of the 2025 Agency Core research study. Together, Susan and Brian have launched Agency Core, a nonprofit initiative dedicated to providing agency owners with powerful, unbiased data about what's really going on in the agency world—and the latest results are as sobering as they are enl...

May 12, 202556 min

Episode 500 5 Agency Leadership Lessons from 500 Podcasts with Drew McLellan

Welcome to a milestone episode of Build a Better Agency! This week, host Drew McLellan takes the mic solo to commemorate a remarkable achievement—the 500th episode of the podcast. With nearly a decade of weekly episodes under his belt, Drew reflects on the invaluable lessons that have emerged from ten years of conversations, challenges, and growth within the agency world. In this special episode, Drew distills his journey into five key lessons learned through years of podcasting and agency consu...

May 05, 202541 min

Episode 499 Effective Strategies for Winning New Business with Mike Lander

In this episode, Drew McClellan interviews Mike Lander about effective strategies for agencies to win new business and negotiate strong contracts. They explore qualifying opportunities, differentiation, value creation, and negotiation tactics. Mike emphasizes building trust, trading instead of discounting, and understanding buyer motivations to secure profitable, long-term partnerships.

Apr 28, 202552 min

Episode 498 Adapting Public Relations for the Modern World with Ryan Gerding

Welcome to another insightful episode of Build a Better Agency! In this session, host Drew McLellan is joined by PR expert Ryan Gerding, CEO of Inc. Public Relations, to explore the evolving landscape of public relations and its crucial role in modern communication strategies. Ryan brings over two decades of experience in the PR industry, offering a comprehensive look at how the traditional boundaries of PR have expanded far beyond media relations. Together, Drew and Ryan explore the shifting dy...

Apr 21, 202542 min

Episode 497 Effective Communication Strategies with Cynthia Kane

Welcome to another enlightening episode of Build a Better Agency! In this episode, host Drew McLellan delves into the nuances of effective communication, a skill vital for thriving in today's tumultuous business landscape. Joined by guest Cynthia Kane, an expert in mindful communication, they explore how to navigate conversations with clarity and calm, even amidst chaos. Cynthia shares her journey from struggling with passive-aggressive communication to mastering the art of mindful dialogue. Thi...

Apr 14, 202558 min
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