Once-in-a-Generation Players & Draft Day Speculation | Bucs Insider Live

But I love this show. We get to talk about all the things that we think might happen and then we're completely wrong tomorrow night. It's great. So this is where you get to ask all those questions. Go on to our Facebook if you're not already there to leave

your comment under the live video. As always, we love here and where you're watching from as well, so as we give people chance to get some of those questions in for you this this day of final day, right before the draft, if you had to decide what you think they're going to do, putting you on the spot here because I know people are gonna ask you, so I might as well go and get that out of the way. I really find it. I find it kind of incredible that we still don't have clarity on what

the Cardinals are gonna do at number one. I thought for sure by now there would be some piece of evidence, like, um, Josh Rosen being traded. Obviously, there's little bits of evidence. There's little things you see that make you think that everybody's opinion, the main consistent consensus, although it's been fading a little bit lately, that Kyler Murray is gonna be the first overall pick. Uh. You see little things like

the fact that he's going to the draft. You know, would you do that if there was a chance he was gonna fall. The fact that Josh Rosen said on a show that um, he still wasn't sure. Which to me, that's that's the best piece of evidence. But it's still not certain. But let's just go on and you ask me who I think we're gonna do. Let's just go under the assumption that Kyler Murray does go first. Now

there's four picks left. I'm personally of the opinion that any one of these four defensive lineman or edge rushers of Quinn and Williams, Nick Bosa, Josh Allen or and Oliver would be an awesome pick for the Buccaneers, and you can't miss, you can't miss. And yesterday after practice, somebody asked Bruce arians how far the team would be willing to trade down if it traded down, And you may recall that at his pre draft press conference last week,

Jason Light said, there is a line. There's a line where where our prospects go from the absolute top tier to the next here and they're still and then he said, there's still tons of great players from like twenty to sixty. There's lots of great players, but there's a line. I don't know if it's nine. I don't know if it's ten,

but Bruce, they would only go so far. And Bruce said yesterday he's like, there's six guys I would love to have, and I'm not sure six is the absolute line, but he could think of six right there that and he's like, it's gonna take You're gonna have to open a vault and throw the bank at me for us to want to trade back. So I gotta believe that is something out of this possibly historic class of defensive lignement slash ed rushers and or a linebacker like Devon White.

I gotta believe it's that And I've said it all along. This isn't just me, this isn't what I know that they're thinking. But if you have an opportunity, you're picking fifth in this draft, you are one of the teams that can get one of these awesome what Bruce called once in a generation type players. Uh, I think you gotta take that opportunity. I mean, I would love to have Devin White and if if that happens, then we'll

all be ecstatic about it. But I'm of the opinion if you got a shot at one of these potentially franchise altering pass rushers, you need to take him. Okay. Uh, Jordan's said he believes we should get Josh Allen at all costs, which that makes me think, So what are your thoughts on the idea of trading up? And I

wouldn't do that at all. Uh, it's just too expensive and when you can just sit there at five and get an awesome player, like I'm not I'm not convinced that Josh Allen is better than at Oliver as as an example, and uh, maybe he is, maybe he's not, but I'm not convinced of it. So I certainly wouldn't trade up when I can just sit there and maybe

get Josh Island at five. And even if I don't, I get at Oliver or Nick Bosa if if the Jets decide to go, you know, if if San Francisco decides they want to get an inside guy and take say Quinnin Williams at two, then you know, when I did my mock draft, I had the net the Jets taking Nick Bosa. But what if they like at Oliver more When we were doing our mock draft on the smart board, that's who Carmen thought they would take. So and I've seen it another draft. At Oliver stock has

really risen in the last couple weeks. And as I said in that smart board video, that doesn't mean that NFL teams have suddenly decided to like at Oliver a lot more that two weeks ago they thought he was a tenth overall pick and now they think he's the third fifth overall pick. It's just that as you get close to the draft, the assembled media finds out more real information, realizes, hey, these guys actually love at Oliver and so maybe we should put him a little higher

in our mock draft. That is a great distinction of when people are rising up, it just means it just means we're catching up to what other teams are doing, not that all of a sudden, after you know, a year plus of scouting these guys, in the last week they're like, wait a minute, yes, exactly, move this guy. And I do think guys can fall on a draft, on a team's draft board where I gets hurt. You know, I think we're shn Gary. He had a shoulder injury that just came out, and maybe that will hurt his

stock to That's an interesting point. And we've got a lot of people watching from all over the place We've got in Australia. We've got a Mexico, New Orleans, Raleigh, a whole bunch of places, which is great. I have to go to all those places, but especially Australia, I agree. So if you feel I've been to New through New Mexico, it's a beautiful state. Um Brian said after the first round,

what position is most important for the draft? That's a great question, and I think I'll probably be looking very closely at that tomorrow night after the draft, because I'll probably write something for Friday about here's five potential guys that the Bucks could take with. I think we're thirty ninth, seventh and seventh and second round thirty ninth. Overall, there's

gonna be some great players available there. And if you go under the assumption that we did take a pass rusher or a linebacker in the first round, to me that second round pick, I would like to see it spent on an offensive lineman. And I think there's gonna be some good ones at the top of the second round, especially if you're if you're looking for an interior line and you know, right guards or at least settled position.

Maybe a guy like Dalton Reisinger of Kansas say something like that if they slip Um or Garrett Bradberry, who's a center, but maybe you can play guard or cornerback. And I think there'll be good value both of those spots. Because there's probably or at least every expects there to be such a run on defensive lineman and because up to four quarterbacks could go in the first round. The positions that are getting bummed down a little bit, The

main one is cornerback. So if you believe these assembled not drafts, if you think there's a consensus there that means anything. Then you see that sometimes the top corner isn't going to two something like that, and that means, wow, this isn't a particularly top heavy group of corners like some years. There's no Denzel Award there that something's gonna take in the top five, there's there's a good depth, and so the second and third round, I think you're

gonna see a lot of cornerbacks go safeties two. So to me, it's either guard or defensive back. Of interesting, Jason said. B A said in his press conference, d there are six top players in this draft. Yeah, in your opinion, who are there? Okay? Yeah, So I'm just gonna say now, I'm just gonna say that Kyler Murray isn't one of them, although it's possible because as Bruce said yesterday, also said yesterday, you don't draft for need. If you draft for need, that's how you get fired.

And I think he means mostly in the first round, he says you just he says, you take the best player, and if you already have two of those, well now you've got three. Uh. That said, I think there's a little bit of a caveat there if we're talking about quarterback because you can't play two quarterbacks and you can't

really commit the funds to two quarterbacks like that. So I mean it's important to have several good quarterbacks, you know, And that's why we've been developing Ryan Griffin and signed Blake Barrels playing Gabbert playing former Jaguar starts with the bee. Um. I knew it as soon as I said was wrong. Uh so you accidentally did that to my miszooka I can tell sorry about that. Well, maybe we'll get Drew

Lock and have another UM. So I'm gonna remove Klem from that, even though he obviously on some some people's boards could be one of the top six players, and maybe we even think he's one of the most top six talented. I would say the four guys that I just said, the defensive lineman that I just said, and Devin White, and then the sixth one is tricky, uh you know, and maybe it's a maybe it's an offensive

lineman like John Taylor. Maybe it's one of the another one of the next guys down the list on the defensive lineman like Rashan Gary. Probably that would be my guests, Rashan Gary, something like that. Okay, um Kevin said, if Oliver and Sweat are available, who do you predict the Bucks pick? I predicted Bucks will take Oliver in that situation. Just the thing about Sweat is, you know, there is

a little bit of concern with that. What came out about is potential hard thing and that could be nothing, and he's played with it already. So but I still think teams take that into account when they're choosing between A and B, and A and B are close. Um. I I've seen a few people mentioning the concept of at five, who's worth taking at five? So I'm trying to figure out the best way to kind of combine these on in one question. But some people are saying,

I want Devin White, but not at five. I understand. So what do you think of that sentiment that if there's a player that you want, but if you don't think he's worth a five, Well, and it's a good question. And what that what people are talking about when they say that is they want to maximize your draft value.

So if you take a guy that no other team would have taken at five and you take them at five, then it feels like a lost opportunity, Like maybe I could have traded back to nine, gained another second round pick, and still still got my guy at number nine, And that's understandable. The problem is you can't always make that happen.

You may want to trade back to nine and take Demn White at nine rather than five and get some other assets out of it, because then you're using a fifth round pick to get Devin White plus something else like a second or third round pick. That's a great plan, but a you can't You can't guarantee that another team is going to go along with it and other team is going to be motivated enough to give you what

you want to trade. Uh So, if that's the case, if you're sitting there, man, Devin White is the guy we need. That's that's our number one guy that we need. We love him. I know this hasn't been considered a position that would normally be drafted in the top five. But two years from now, is it gonna matter that we took him at number five or number nine. If you would take him at five, take him at nine. I mean, if you would take him at nine, take

him at five, that's simply he's having on your team. Yeah, and if he's worth a first round pick at nine, then he's worth the first round pick at five. Yes you do, but yes you do. Try to play the draft of value. You try, but if you can't, then you have to do that. And then there's also the idea that are you certain that nobody else would take him between five and nine, that nobody is six eight, And if that's the guy you want, you're taking a

you're taking a big risk. I was listening to this podcast and it was like it's a series of podcasts and all these locked on sites like Lockdown Bucks, Lockdown Dolphins, all that, and it was very interesting and each one, like the first six picks, they spent an hour on.

When it got to our guys who are picking for the Bucks, they traded down to eleven with Cincinnati, and when it finally got to them at eleven, they said, we had a list of four or five guys we were prepared to take, and we were sure one of them's gonna make it, and none of them made them made it, and so they were they're kind of at a loss, and they ended up taking Christian Wilkins, who's probably gonna be a great player, but I'm not sure he's in our top five. What I'm saying, Yeah, that's

an interest, so it's risky. Yeah. Um. Seawan says he's watching from Washington, d C. And wants to know if there is any buzz about draft day player trades instead of actually trading the picks. It could involve that too, but more about actually trading players a player day. There is buzz, but it's not coming from inside the building. That doesn't mean they're not talking about it. I'm just saying, if you're hearing things about us potentially trading a player, um,

it's not coming from here. Okay, I'm sure they're hearing the same buzzs we are, so right, that's an interesting question, um. And then we could work one non draft question in here, UM, Brian asked. Brian asked, why do some players not show up to O t as or workouts because they don't have to, That is the answer. Now, yesterday we had two guys who weren't here, and they simply weren't here because is there. I guess their wife's about to give birth.

So sometimes it's just life gets in the way. And if this if this had been a mandatory mining camp and they'd called up Bruce and said, my wife's about to give birth. Bruce pent certain would have said, see you next week. You know, take care of that. So sometimes life there are things in life that happened that are more important. But we cannot get on guys for not showing up. They that's that was a thing that was bargained into the c b A. They were. There's

give and take that made that happen. The thing that the team's got that they wanted and things that the players got that they wanted. And since that's the system, you simply cannot bag on a guy for not being here. Now you can say if it was me, I'd be there because I want to get all the work I can. I mean, but some guys don't necessarily feel that way, and sometimes they may be right. Think back to last year.

I don't think Jason Pierre Paul can do a lot of our Yeah, he seemed he seemed like it was just fine. Yeah, and our coaches back then, where you know, we're talking about JPP here and he knows what he's doing, and he came in here and hit the ground running and within like a few days of training camp. You know, former head coach Dorcutter was saying, obviously he didn't need it and he's fine, and some guys can do that,

so you know, you can feel. There's nothing wrong with feeling like if I were a player, I'd be there everyday working. But you just have to remember that it is voluntary and that's important to remember, and that's how you have to treat it. Okay. Eric is watching from Quebec and he said, are there any free agents on the Buck's radar after the draft to fill any voids if the draft doesn't pan out exactly how they want. I'm sure there are, but I don't know what they are.

Sorry about that. Um, that's exactly right, though, And one thing to remember is that players signed after free agents signed after something like May five or May seven, I can't remember the exact date do not count in that formula that they used to determine compensatory picks. So I think, if I'm not mistaken, there's a couple of guys out there,

like in Dominican Sue and maybe um Ziggyanza. I think they have not signed yet, and those are a couple of guys that pretty clearly are going to be on a team somewhere, but they're maybe not getting the offers they want right now, because the team doesn't really want to spend a lot right now when there's a chance they can get a comparable player or a player for the same position in the draft. But then, as that question said, after the draft, you realized, man, we didn't

get a d team. We had no other ways because so now we're more interested in him, and he gets better offers. So I'm sure he's winning for a better offer. And if a team can wait long enough to get a signe out of their compensed story pig formula, they'll do so. So yeah, we I think pretty much every year you see a veteran or two sign after the draft. It's just a little hard to predictive that would be

right now. Okay. Kevin and Nicholas both asked about our schedule, and specifically Kevin asking about how much of a disadvantage do you think it'll be having the multiple weeks away from the stadium in the middle of the season. Well, we're gonna find out, and it will be. Um, it'll be We're gonna find out the hard way. And since it's essentially unprecedented, Uh, we're gonna answer that question. And it's not been answered before. How hard will that be?

There's the school of thought that you already knew you had eight away games, Well, it feels like nine because of the home game in London and eight or seven home games, And doesn't matter what order you play, men, you still going to play that many games at home and that many games on the road, and that maybe on a neutral site. It certainly feels like a disadvantage,

you know, it's not. It's not like this is a sport like baseball, where you when you go on a road trip, you go on a road trip and you're gone from home for that amount of time, and if it was a seven week baseball road trip, people will be freaking out and it would be a definite disavenge. You have two road games, and then you have the game in London, which were the home team for and both teams have the same amount of travel for that one, and then you have a bye week to prepare for

the two road games after that. It's probably a disadvantage, but it might not be that big of a disavengage. And if you get through that. That's why we have three of our last four at home and our last two at home. I actually think it's less fortunate for our fans because that's the that's seven weeks, that's basically two months where they don't get to see this team play at Raymond James Stadium, and and that's unfortunate. Yeah, that's very true. Um Douglas said, are there any second

round corners better than Davis or VH three? Um? I will answer that more diplomatically and that I think there are second round corners that can add to that. Those two make us better along, and I would particularly like it if that guy was a slot player. Um. However far you want to believe him, he certainly knows more about football than I do. Bruce Arian seems quite sold on Vernon and Carlton as a good pair of press corners for this defense. And what he doesn't know yet

is the answer at slot corner. So if you can take a guy who can play both but could immediately help you in the slot, that would be good. I there's a there's a guy from Michigan State that I like a lot. And there's a guy from Michigan And I'm blanking on their names right now, but um, I think one of his named Lane. Uh. I think that's the Michigan State guy. They're both guys that I think you could get in the second or third round, and they have the potential play in the slot, So there's

definitely value there. And rather than saying they're better than what we got, I just think they would improve our tuition overall. Richard said he's listening from San Gabriel, California. Which player in the draft do you think will fall so essentially that it seems like often there's that one guy that everybody assumed would go really early and then slides back. I'd like to say Daniel Jones because I'm

a little surprised at the amount of hype he's getting. Um, you know, he's kind of like Josh Allen in that he doesn't he didn't really have fantastic numbers that Duke and I guess he's big and with a strong arm, and he's worked with David Cutcliffe and that's why people

compare him to Peyton Manning. Uh, but he just just from his body of work, I'm surprised would be a first round guy, and I'd like to say he might drop out, But we see how the quarterbacks tend to go higher than we expect are not lower, So that's

probably not a good prediction. I'll go back to guy we were talking about earlier, Montes Sweat, and I'm just saying there was a time a couple of weeks ago, two or three weeks ago, where Montes Sweat was being predicted to go on the top like five to seven picks in almost every mock draft. And he seems to have lost a little steam. And again that's more of an indication of people figuring out what actually feel about these guys, and so I think he could fall a

little farther than people expect. Okay, well, thanks so much for joining us on this edition of Buccaneers in Sideur Live, presented by Miller Lyte. Hope to see a ton of you guys out at the draft party. We will both be there tomorrow night doing a little pre show thing right before the draft. I hope to see you out there and enjoy the draft. We see you next week.