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of clarity on some stuff. And also, I mean it's still not really football. They're they're doing sort of the individual drills. There's no contact, but at least the coaches are getting to be out there with them, which is cool. And we also have a little bit of breaking probably saw me sneaking and peeked down on my phone. We

actually have right now breaking news. Um. We don't know the full schedule until later tonight, but we've been informed that the game we're gonna play against the Carolina Panthers in London is going to be at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium on October thirteenth. That's week six, and it's the kickoff our local time. Will that's so awesome. That's got to be the earliest game the Buccaneers have ever played, and I'm sure, So what does that kind of say

to you? What do you learn from that about the schedule and what what could that mean for the team overall? Of whin that is in the London game, Well, we kind of knew it was going to be and it's usually in the week like six to eight range, so that's not surprising, um it. It probably also means that our bye week will be week seven, because you usually get your bye week the week after you play in London. It's just a cool experience. We've been to London twice

and it's been fun both times. But this is there's a new wrinkle here and that this is a brand new stadium. There is gonna be one more game on the whole International series before ours, so we'll be the second game ever in that stadium. It's brand new. It was built with the NFL in mind. Actually, it's obviously it's main purposes to be the home team of the soccer club of the same name, but they it's a

it's a multi purpose stadium built one of the purposes. Specifically, it was that was I said specifically while there, I specifically said that word well as um it was the NFL because they want to keep attracting more and more NFL games over there. So, for instance, they have their usual soccer pitch, but it splits and retracts, and underneath it there's a synthetic turf for NFL teams to play on.

That's really I'm sure there's some other features as well that are specific to the NFL, but it's just a sign of how much that international series is progressing. I mean, there's five games in it this year. Every year it seems like there's more. I think there were five scheduled last year as well, But when this whole thing started it was one one game year. Right, it's five, four in London and one in Mexico City, so it's it's becoming a bigger and bigger deal. But um, it should

be fun to play at that new stadium. That's gonna be awesome. I can't wait. Um So yeah, stay tuned for the full schedule at least later tonight at eight o'clock. Um, alry, we've got question starting rolling. We've got people from watching all over the place. I saw a Czech Republic and a bunch of really unique places that we Uh. It seems like new new people chiming in here. Um and I think his name is raw. I hope I got

that right from the Bahamas. Um says, is it true that we don't have much money left on the cap to sign our draft picks? Uh? Just as we said heading into free agency when it looked like it wasn't it wouldn't even be possible for the Buccaneers to sign anybody. It's not that hard to create the cap space that you need. That no team has ever like passed on draft picks because they didn't have the cap space for it. Don't worry about that. We will have the cap space

to sign all our draft picks. Whatever the number you're seeing on spot track or whatever website you go to right now that's making concerned, don't worry about it. It'll be fine. Yes, Um okay. And another question, we've been getting a lot and now we at least have heard a little bit from Jason light On. Tito said, what's going on with Kendall beck with uh, and I we've heard from Jason. I don't know that we have a lot more than we've had before, yeah, three times now.

And Jason actually addressed this fact. He said, I know I spoke to you at the Combine about this, and I spoke to you at the NFL Owners meetings about this that at both times I said we'd have more information in a specific amount of time, and in this case it was mid April, and he said, we were not there yet. What we do know is that Kindle

has not been clear to practice. The team has moved into phase two of the off season, where you can have assistant coaches on the field, you can do position drills, you can't do offense versus defense, but you can do more. And Kindle's not out there. He hasn't been cleared, so that's obviously not a positive step forward or a positive step forward that hasn't been taken yet. But he also said, we still are a little bit away from having our you know, our true knowledge of what's going to happen.

So we still don't have an exact answer for you yet. We The only part of that that's new is that we know he's not been clear to practice, and he was practicing in the middle of the last season, so

that's a little confusing. Yeah, that's true. Uh. Something else that Jason was asked about him that we are also being asked about is Gerald McCoy and the fact that he's not at the workouts, And it's always a good time to remind everybody that these are voluntary workouts, and um, you know there's I think on every team, I would be safe to say that there's usually players that choose to work out other places and aren't here. But what did Jason say when asked about Gerald McCoy. Well, I mean,

you know, it's kind of all the same thing. Uh, Like you said, it's voluntary, and Jerald McCoy is on the team right now. Um, you know, he gets asked constantly are you trying to trade him? Or is he staying away? And basically there's not a lot more to say about it than Jerom mcois on the roster and he's not practicing here, but he doesn't have to be right. Yeah, that's very true. Uh TC said, I've seen a lot of mock draft showing that we might trade our fifth

overall pick back for another second round pick. Do you see that as being a well, last year we traded from seven to twelve and got two second rounders. Um, you have to look at that draft value chart to get a good idea of and I don't have an in front of me of what exactly you would pay or get for different moves. One thing that I found interesting in what Jason Light said yesterday, and it matches up with what I was believing. Anyways, there is only

a certain point to which we would trade down. We're at five. Jason said, there's five guys he would absolutely love to take there, so there's no urgency necessary if you could sit there and you're gonna get a guy you love. And that's true whether or not Kyler Murray goes first. It's probably easier if Kyler Murray goes first, because then you're reducing the four guys because he's surely not on our list because we're not taking a quarterback

and five. I think that's pretty obvious. So, um, you know, it becomes five guys, four guys instead of five, or three guys instead of four that can be taken in front of you. Um, I don't know what it is, but there's some line where they won't trade back, and and that could that that decision will be made when we're on the clock at five, because you don't know

right now which four guys are going. So let's say you have Jason said, there's they've drawn a line between they're absolutely top tier, great prospects and just the very very good ones. There's a there's a specific line there. And so if you get to let's pick a number and see there's ten of them, a nice round number.

If you get to pick five and there are five of those, let's say that's there's seven of those guys left on your list, then you can move back seven spots, but no more and be guaranteed you can gamble that much. On the wise you're you're not guaranteed of getting that guy. You could probably move one more depending upon who you're trading with, if you know they're trading up to get a quarterbacks and you don't have to worry about that pick being rid of your guys. So there is a spot.

I do believe that we're willing to trade, and absolutely you can get a second round pick out of that if you're trading two spots down like we did in um in two thousand and twelve. We traded down with the Jaguars I think in two thousand twelve from five to seven, and they took the wide receiver who who didn't last, and we took Mark Barron and we only got like a high fourth. I found another five to seven trade from another pair of teams that they got

a third round pick for it. So if you're talking one or two spots, you're probably only getting like a third or fourth round pick. But anything more than that, you're almost certainly going to get a second round pick out of it. And you saw from seven to twelve was worth two second round picks, right, Yeah, that's very true. Um, Travis wanted to know do you think Josh Allen or Devon White at five? So I don't know if he's asking which you'd prefer or what you think is more likely.

You can answer either way or but I think Devin wants more likely because I think Josh Allen will probably be gone. But UM, I think I would pick Josh Allen out of those two. We've been saying this all along. Whatever I answer that question doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to have the other one. Unfortunately, can only have one. So, UM, I think Josh Allen would be a perfect fit for Todd Bowl's three four defense. I know as Jason was saying yesterday, you're gonna see four three, you're gonna see

three four, you're gonna see Nicole. You're gonna see a lot of different looks. But let's just call to three four and there are as Jason was saying yesterday, running that defense and the multiple schemes really opens up the amount of prospects. It makes more prospects viable for you to draft, which is nice. It also helps some of the players that are already on the roster. As Carmen wrote about yesterday, Um, you can read that here on buccaneers dot com um or we're on Facebook now right, yes,

well whatever on Buccaneers dot com um. That was going a little bit off tangent there. But the point is Josh Allen would be a really good fit. Now, another guy that maybe you're seeing rise up a lot of mock drafts lately is at Oliver. That's funny. That actually is the next question. A lot of people were asking if you feel like he would be a good fit.

Here do and I think at Oliver would would be a viable pick for the Buccaneers if Josh Allen, Nick Bolsa, Quentin Williams is a lot of mock draft show are all going right before them, then I think he's a good choice there. I think if not, if Ed Oliver even goes before us, then that knocks another guy down. So either way, him rising up the board can have an impact on the Buccaneers. Okay, uh TC wants to

know who you know. It's important to note that when I say rising up the board, I'm talking about the consensus the mock draft Roar, it's not I don't think. I don't think over the last couple of weeks we're gonna like it a bit. Yeah, that's that's a very good clarification that we are not up there sneaking draft board. Uh TC said, who do you think will win the

backup QB job? Gabbert or Griffin? I think probably Gabbert. Um, I think we'll keep all three of them, though U Albert has obviously more game experience because as we always say about Ryan, he hasn't had the chance yet to throw the ball in a regular season game. Uh but he's he has said he likes Ryan Griffin, that he being Bruce Arians. So, UM, I don't think it's a gimme, But if you're asking me which one I think probably Gabbert Justin said, should we consider trading up for the

guy we really want? Consider? Of course, but um two things they're the guy we really want could be several of different guys. I mean, we we could have a very similar grade on three guys. And if that's the case, then I don't think you want to trade up and give away valuable draft assets to get one of those three when you can get one of them by sitting still. Um two, I just don't think with seven a total of seven picks and a lot of needs, it makes a ton of sense to trade any of that a way.

I don't. I don't see trade up happening right. Um A J is already putting you on the spot. Here, what is your prediction on what our regular season record will be? Man, I know you always hate this questions. Well, right, because you can't. I'm gonna look bad whatever I do here, Because you can say like eleven and five, like come on, you're being a home er, say nine and seven and what you don't believe in this thing, I'll just go in nine and seven, I mean, because that's what you

don't believe in, the exactly appreciate that, Thank you. M Richard asked, when is the next Salty Dogs podcast. We've been talking about doing one soon, um, because we've got some players in the building now, so be cool to have one of those guests on. That's a good question, and if that person is interested in Salty Dogs, know that you can email us questions at Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. I'm gonna email and ask you what do you think of records? Thank you and um.

In addition, you could suggest so I guess you might like us to have on, like of all the new players, do you want us to talk to day On? We can? And do you talk to Jack Barrett? And I could lead us in the direction. We've been talking about doing another one soon, so I think it'll be quite soon. Chris said, if we trade back, let's say into the teens,

is there a chance we go cornerback at that position? Absolutely, and and that'll but again that's if one of those players on their list that I was talking about their top tier is a quarterback. If if if there's a quarnerback on that list, then yes, But I don't think they trade back past the point of where that list ends. And then they go all the ends of linebackers going that are gone. We took the corner. I don't think

that's the scenario that's gonna unfold. If a cornerback is good enough to be on that list of what they think are the top great player tiers, then then yes. Second okay, Gerald said, is Ed Oliver too small to play three for defensive end? Light said, Bowls likes his d NS a certain size well, and the size is definitely the question mark about Oliver um. But I don't there's been some players around that size that have that

have been able to play at that size. I don't think Aaron donald is the biggest guy in the world, you know, and he's obviously the most dominant. He's definitely shorter. He's I think he's six to I think he's yeah, I mean I was better and Donaldson there wait a yeah, he's short of I think he's also bulked up a lot since he came in to the league. You know. Here's what I'd say about that, and it was I don't think it was a question about Oliver Our specifically.

But um Jason was asked yesterday about a player and would he fit in this and was the size right, And he said, Todd Bowles knows how to take a guy and not use him in a way that if his size makes him not perfect for a certain role, then he'll devise a role for him that will work. So I think if he's talented enough, um, his his size won't be an issue. Okay, Morton said, um, I've seen some people predicting that we might trade with the Packers to go back in the first round. Do you

see that as a possibility? Who are the Packers training up four? Right? That's the thing is like, it's I think the questions are always funny of the idea of just oh yeah, we'll trade back with them, but they have to want to trade up. And I mean, I guess some people were saying, I've seen predictions that they might take a QB to replace Rogers eventually. Eventually he just signed like a year worked really well when he sat behind far for a while, so maybe they're like,

let's do that again. Yeah, but they took her and Rodgers at around the little different trade up to take him a little In fact, that was historically, um an amazing draft in that everybody passed on him all that, right, and Alex Smith I think went first in that draft. Um no, I mean yeah, you tell me who it is the Packers are trading up for, because twelve is a spot that I could see happening five to twelve and you probably still learned that range of players on

that top tier list. And if you trade from five to twelve, like I did a mock draft this for this past at the on Monday casing, Carmen and I did our last mock draft and I had the Bucks pick because we alternate picks, and I had us trade back with Miami at thirteen because Miami was trading up to get a quarterback. Um. And then as it turned out, I eventually traded back up to nine. But in any case, the traft chart worked out. I got a second and a third, had to had to give back a fifth.

If you move from from five to twelve, you're probably getting something like a second and a third or two seconds. I don't know what the Packers have up so um yeah, I mean that could work. I just don't see the motivation on the other end. Okay, And we'll close with this one uh TC. As we know, JPP will start his defensive end either left or right, who do you think will start opposite of him? Probably right now, you'd

say Carl Nassa. And I think there's a belief that Karl Nassi is one of those guys that could drop back and coverage a little bit. Now. Shack Barrett when he when he came here said one of the reasons he came here was he was told up front, He's like, this is who we got, and we're not guaranteeing you a start, but you're gonna get an You're getting an opportunity to compete, to be a starter. He wants to start,

or at least play a lot more. And as we've said on some of these questions, sometimes it's not all important who's listed as a starter, right, if you're getting the snaps, doesn't really matter that you're not listed as a starter. So, but that aside um, i'd say Carl now, but check there is certainly gonna get a chance to compete for it. Okay, well, it's gonna do it for us. In this edition of Buccaneers Inside of Live, presented by Miller Lte And we have one more before the draft.

To make sure you're back here next week with all those final draft questions and hopefully we'll also see you at the Draft party at the Stadium next week as well. We'll see you then. Two