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2019 Preseason Schedule, Strongest Player on the Team & Day 2 Draft Needs | Bucs Insider Live

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Senior Writer/Editor Scott Smith and Team Reporter Casey Phillips report live from the AdventHealth Training Center.

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Welcome to Buccaneers Inside a live presented by Miller like Casey Phillips and Scott Smith here and this is where we answer all of your questions this time of year. I know there are a lot of them, especially thanks to the draft, which I always love hearing what everybody is interested in and wanting to know about the draft.

So please, if you are already not watching on Facebook, head over there and you can leave your comments and questions underneath our live video on the Buccaneers Facebook page. And as always love hearing where you're watching from, so include that with your question. And as we give people a chance to get in there and start asking some of their questions in general this time of year, what are some of the things going on that people might

not know about in relation to the draft? And you know, we hear so much about some of these top round prospects, but there's a lot of you know, things for the later rounds and some of these other prospects going on. I'll answer that question. But look, I think that they're trying to do a Tampa Bay chant there sy that. Oh I like that. That's that's a great idea. I'm a fan of that. Uh And I saw some gold

buckshop getting fired up for the season, I think. So I've seen that people seem really excited, especially about the new coaching staff. I think that everybody is really pumped out. And I'll enter your question first, but we can talk about like the stuff that Chris Godwin and Jameis Winston said on Tuesday as well. It was kind of, you know, stuff that can get some fans pumped up, I think.

But yeah, one of the things that you do every year before the draft is each team gets to hold a workout at their place of thirty players draft prospects that are considered local. That means either played high school ball here or they went to a school somewhat nearby. We also get some Florida, some Miami. I don't know how they split that up, because you would think Florida would be Jacksonville, right, But maybe they figured that's just too unfair to give them all the Florida guys. But

we will. We don't put the list out of who's coming until the morning because it tends to be fluid and some guys will drop off and come back on et cetera. So I don't have the names to give you yet. Or I can't give them out yet. But if you're interested in who's gonna be here, um, just come to the site. I'll be posting it on Friday morning and you'll get a look at some of those names.

And and that's like what you just said, a lot of these names are not going to be terribly familiar to Bucks fans unless they also having to be a fan of Central Florida or whatever. You know, but are guys that you might end up drafting in the seventh

round or you might be forming relationship with. So when you call them after the draft and you're trying to get them to come as an undrafted free agent, uh, you know you have sort of already started a base their lationship and you have a better better field for how they play. And and that's important because I mean,

I know you've seen it. After the draft, all the scouts and the coaches like wandering the halls on their cell phones, trying to get a distance from each other because they're all having the same sort of conversation trying to get these priority free ages to come here because they generally have a couple options, right, and we know from experience how important that is now is this the guy that this got on going to make the team. I mean, chances are no, but somebody's going to make

the team group and somebody ends up being Adam Humphries. Yeah, you know, it's a great point. Happens all the time. Somebody ends up being DeMar Dotson has been our starting right tackle for like eight years. Yeah, something interesting about him is I Actually we've been in the in the weight room and watching the guys, you know, working out right now Phase one. They're all just doing some you know, conditioninging and string stuff. Yeah, I know, right, Um, I'm

doing the I'm working on my next case. He's vlog which shameless plugs stay tuned for that. In So, I've been in there getting some footage while they're working out, and I just decided to ask. You know, Evan Smith throws up ridiculous weight and so I asked him, Hey, are you the strongest guy on the team? And he's like,

I mean, I'm definitely top five. Like, I don't know exactly how you'd compare everything, he said, but you know who, like if someone who really just decided they wanted to see how much they could lift and worked at it, he said, the strongest guy on the team would be DeMar Dotson, and I said six nine blanky long art, Like, usually it's the short guys that are good at lifting because it's not a real long breath you have to do. I was like, at six nine, that's a and he said, yeah,

he's like he is just ridiculously strong naturally. And I thought that was really interesting that, you know, just kind of a cool fact about him that like they all in the weight room were looking at tomorrow like, dang, that's impressive. Another cool fact he had to go to a tryout first before he even got a shot. Yeah, so as did Adam Humphries because as most people know, UM, DeMar didn't even play football until his senior year at Southern Miths and then he was I think he played

six games and they were as a defensive lineman. So UM brought him in here because people, you know, all the size, he's got quick feet. Maybe he could be an offensive lineman, but you know that most of the time those things don't work out, but there's a chance that they can you can turn into that that's really true. Um Brandon was asking if there's any update on back with He said he's watching from Greenville, Alabama. And I've seen a lot of questions about Alabama. Greenville its green Boa,

Alabama actually exists. Oh that's funny. Um, so yeah, he wants to know back with and I've seen a lot of people asking about this and and not just if there is an update, but when we would even know an update. We should know soon. And the reason I say that is that at the combine of Jason Light was asked about that and he said, I don't really have an update for you now, but um, we hope

in about a month. And then at the NFL's league meetings, which was not a month later, but close to him month later, Um, I think it was I'm not sure if it was Jason or coach Arians, but one of them was asked about it and said, we still don't have any update for you, but it should be pretty soon. So I'm sorry. I know that's kind of the answer we've given every time we've been asked about it. But we can't just make it up out of thin air. We have to wait until the tea is ready to

say something, and we've been told it'll be soon. It would be, I think it would be. It would certainly behoove the team to know his status and what you expect he can do this year before the draft. That could affect the draft decision. That doesn't mean that the team has to let everybody know, so potentially they could wait until after the draft. But I don't know that he just you know, the terms haven't been too specific. We should be able to tell you more soon soon. Yeah,

and who knows, And maybe that's something to do. I mean, they just started going on on the field and so far it's just been conditioning work, right right, so maybe when they actually start doing some position drills, still have a better idea. And that's phase two, right, Yeah, that's phase two and that should start next next week. Yes, yeah, yeah, Okay, Um, I'm sure I'm gonna butcher this name. I think it's he on uh asked? Is there any chance we draft Haskins?

And I think I'm gonna add to this what I've seen some a few other questions ask of just in general drafting a quarterback and how high or how low if we were to draft one, where do you think you know? Is that is that a thing that could happen?

And where in the draft if did with that most likely No, I don't think that we would draft Wayne Haskins because I do not think we would use that for it would have to be that first pick because he's considered a top ten pick, and even if he does slide a bit, he's gonna be drafted in the

first round. And you know, from everything that Bruce arians has said since the moment you got the job, that at least for two nine and that's not the way he put it, but that's the fact that Jameis is in his last year of his contract in nineteen, at least for two thousand nineteen. This team is very much committed to Jameis Winston and believes that he can be the guy to really take this offense to another level. Right, So it would really surprise me, and I mean this

is fairly common sense. You'd probably say the exact same thing, that you would use your first round pick on another quarterback, a quarterback of the future, when you have potentially already a quarterback in the future here and you have a lot of needs. I mean, right now, I'm torn between the fact that everybody's a lot of mock drafters are projecting us to take the LC linebacker Devin White I would love to have Devin White on this team. I

think that would be a great addition. But if you take him five, then you can't get one of these great pass rushers that are available. So I'm torn right now about which one of those two things to get, and to take a quarterback instead of either one of them. Yeah, I'm not so sure on that now. There just the rest of the question is would you take one later in the draft, And that's obviously just going to come

down to what's available. I don't think you would take it on the first or second day, but if there's something they like in the fifth, six, or seventh round, it certainly possible. I don't think it's a priority, it's possible. Uh. Michael said, Um, do you think that we're going to draft Devin White or someone else at five or trade back? Yeah, We're definitely gonna do one one of those things, you think.

I think that there actually is a relatively good chance that, um, you could trade back if you're talking about a trade of five to seven spots maybe, and you can get a pretty good return from moving from five down to ten or twelve. I mean you easily get a second round pick and you might even get like another pick next year. For that. I've looked at some similar deals and you could get like a second this year in

the first next year. Because teams a five, the drop off from five to twelve is considered pretty big in

terms of the draft value chart. And also a team trading up to five at least this year is clearly gonna be trading up to get a quarterback, and teams, as you saw with Buffalo and even Arizona last year, they give up a lot to get that quarterback, more so than they would just to get the next best pass rusher, and like Buffalo traded twice and traded a ton of picks plus a starting offensive tackle just to

get in position to get Josh Allen year. So there'll be a premium paid if somebody's trading up to five to get a quarterback. And so here's what happened, you're at five. Let's I think what it is probably is they'll have a couple of players that they're absolutely in love with. Just like last year. I think if um Bradley Chub or Quentin Nelson had lasted the seven, I think we would have picked him, but when they didn't, we traded back. I think it's the exact same or

very similar scenario. Probably have a couple of guys, and I'm just gonna throw a name out there because I like the guy Josh Allen was there. Josh Allen calls five, we're definitely taking and forget it, we're not taking any calls. However, if he's gone, we like these two linebackers like st. Devin White and Devon Bush, and these four or five defensive lineman and we think any one of them would be a great addition. If that's the case, it makes a ton of sense of trade back. You gotta find

a trade partner something. He's gonna want a quarterback badley, But I think a trade is a very big possibility. Okay, um Rob said, if we're switching to a three four defense and we already have Vida veo, why is there so much talk about drafting a d tackle. Well, I know three four. You you hear the positions, and you

hear there's one defensive tackle and two defensive ends. But those defensive ends are really kind of like defensive tackles because they play inside the tackles, right, they don't play uh, they don't play outside on the edge like five technique, they play inside. So players that you would call a defensive tackle like a Jeral McCoy in a four three are just called defensive ends in this so you you still need another stout guy at least one more for

the interior there. So it just you gotta you gotta not worry so much about the names of these positions. Right like, whether we're calling Carl Nassa a linebacker defense end, we know he's mostly gonna be rushing the pass or might drop into coverage JPP. We might call him a linebacker, but he's most gonna rush the passer, probably won't drop

into coverage. A whole lot that kind of thing. So you know, Lavonte David is now going to be called an inside linebacker when we've called him an outside lineberger, but it's still pretty much the same job. Yes, we are switching to a three four. We've talked about that a lot, but every time you hear Todd Bowl's talk about it, he says, you know, teams do a lot of different fronts and things that are called the three four. Sometimes they look like a four three over under stuff

like that. So, um, you still, let's take an example quinnin Williams. He said, why would we drift to know defensive tackle if you had a shot at Quinn and Williams, this is a disruptive, very disruptive interior player that's gonna work on a three four or four three front next to you to or not next to right. Okay, that's a great point. I love this next question. It's I don't know that anyone's ever asked us this before, and

I think it's really smart. Kevin said, with the preseason schedule released, what is the best team to see how the new defensive scheme will work? Isn't that a good question? Yeah? Well, so we have Miami, Dallas, Pittsburgh, Dallas, Cleveland, Cleveland. Um, you know, I suppose when you're playing Pittsburgh you'll be able to compare ours to theirs because they're a very traditional three or four. That is a clever question, but it's hard to think of what the criteria would be.

I guess you'd want a team with a good defensive line that has experienced playing against a three four, A good offensive line, right, Yeah, somebody that has a good offensive line and either has a really good run game or a really good pass game. Yeah. First of all, they're kind of a team on the rise. I know they have some good defensive or offensive lineman um. And they have to pay face Pittsburgh every year twice, so they should be familiar with trying to defend a three four. Yeah.

So there's one and and the good thing about that is that's the third game and tier at home, which is always good to get the third preseason game at home because that's the one where the Stars play the most. It's the most interesting game. And so we got Cleveland at home for that one. And uh, there there's my answer. By the way, we've never played Dallas in the preseason before I was wondering about that. I knew, I knew it hadn't even since I've been here. But that's not

very long compared to the whole the organization. You know, you used to you used to it was kind of like scheduling your nonconference college games. Teams used to schedule their own. You would just get with another team, and sometimes you do a multi year contract, like in two thousand two when Houston first came in the league, we set up an eight year run with him, or just alternated back and forth state eight straight preseasons, but the league is involved now and you can make requests, but

they tell you who you get. So there's some different matchups that teams would normally have called before. Um Kevin had also asked, would Vita make a good defensive end in the three four defense scene? As how he showed off some decent speed last year. They're going to play anybody. Any of the down linemen in this defense are going to have times where they where they are playing what you would call a defensive end in a three four.

It's going to happen, absolutely right, um Louise asked, is ed drusher or a linebacker the more urgent need right now? That's the question, right, And that's what I was alluding to earlier, And I would just it's too bad we don't have a fifth and the sixth picks right right. That's why, because I'm torn because everything you read and everything you see on this Devin White kid, he looks like you could be a superstar, And why wouldn't you want that in the middle? Wouldn't want Leavonte David and

that guy together? But then this is could be. Now, you never know, all these guys could bomb, but this could be a historically good line or draft for ed rushers, and you're picking five in that type of draft. It just almost seems like a lost opportunity to me if you don't grab a Josh Ellen or Montez sweater at Oliver or somebody like that. Right Um Jeffrey asked, we've

thinned out at kick return punt return options. Are they high on our current talent on the roster or should we expect that to be a factor in some of the draft picks or guys brought on. Yeah, that could see that a later round draft pick, maybe on a receiver who also has some return skills. We've tried that a couple of times and then not too distent pass and nothing really panned out. Um. At the scouting combine, Bruce mentioned Dario goomble Wally as a potential guy to

return kickoffs. As for punts, he said, really, it's we're gonna find out. We just we just don't know yet. It could be a matter of them getting out there on the field and seeing what they think of something like I'll just throw any like Bobo Wilson, Like, they may find out that Bobo Wilson I thought he was good on kick return. Yeah, I would agree with that. Michael, who's watching from Georgia, said, well, we draft running back.

I'm not I'm not sold that it's an absolute definite thing. Um, I don't think we do it in the first round. I don't even think we do it in the second round unless, like let's say, Josh Jacobs is considered the best one falls all the way to there. That's possible. Yeah, I think there's a chance for that, sure, And I would think and again when we talk, when we say these things, remember this is just my opinion. I'm not parenting anything that necessarily Bruce or Jason light thinks or

is their strategy what they're going for. But um, you might look for a guy a little later in the draft. Um who maybe he's a smaller, quicker, change a pace guy that could be a pass catcher out of backfield. Um, you know, we signed Andre Ellington, but there's you know, we don't know yet if he's still the same player he was when he was pretty productive in that role for Bruce arians in Arizona, and so to have another option for that could be a good idea. Okay, we'll

close it this one. Uh C J. Who's watching them from New York said, what do you think the biggest needs will be on day two? Um, And then he said, should all the national hype of the Bucks needing a running back actually be believed? So it's kind of with what we're discussing, but just in general the day too. We we've talked so much about that number five pick. But after that, I'll start with the second part of that.

I don't think you should wear at all with the national hype about you know, I think I saw an article or somebody ranked the all thirty two teams running back situations and we were like thirty first or something that may or may not be true or close to true. But what's thought about them nationally isn't really all that important compared to what our guys think. And you know, there's there's always like Diamond Smith is a good example of guys that internally are valued higher than that maybe

the national press believes. But to get back to the first part of it, let's just say hypothetically, because I need to know who we took in the first round. To answer, Let's say we took a defensive, an edge guy like Josh Allen Ramontes sweat second day, a couple of things. I think offensive line, it would be good to get another couple of pieces, or at least one new piece that could be a star for you down

the road. You could also get a guy that can maybe compete right away with guys like Alex Kappa for the right guard spot. And then a cornerback. And I know you've heard me say a thousand times I say, I couldn't believe we had already talked even more about that. And I know we took two quarterbacks in the second round last year. See might think, well, if we've already invested a lot there, but one of them, m J. Stewart is apparently at least gonna start out this this

offseason playing safety. So and you don't have brain crimes anymore, I think there's still need a cornerback. Those are the two spots that that I would highlight on the second day of the draft. All right, well that's gonna do it for us. In this edition of Buccaneers Insider Live, presented by Miller of Light Thinks, as always to all of you who were watching, ann who asked questions, and we'll see you right back here next time.

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