No Job Is Worth A Health Decline

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two juicy questions. M m okay, So I want to start with the first one from Crystal and then we'll go to Kathy. So these are two really juicy questions. First, Crystal is up. She has made a ton of career moves and ended up in a on across country. She's a very cool story, but might be going back home and wants to figure out how to break it to her employer. And then we have a question from Kathy, who wants to know should she take a pay cut to.

I just sidebar? Wow? Okay, she says. I decided to move all the way across the country with my children and took a new position at a new brokerage firm. I really do enjoy my job, and I actually like my manager, and the people that I've worked with have begun to invest in me. With my short time being here, which is now going on a year, well, I have had some major issues in my relationship and I have very minimal support with my childcare since I've been here.

I have a huge support system back in my hometown, and I have decided to move back. I do feel guilty because I really like what I do. I know that we can work from home after a year, and we do have some people who work out of state but still belong to their team. I have a big exam coming up for the Securities Industry exam, and this will get me a five K raise plus a bonus. The test is scheduled thirty days before my lease is up.

Thirty days before my lease is up. Okay, I want to know how I should approach a conversation with my manager about me moving back to my hometown. I really want to stay with the company and either transfer my job to the firm we have there or work from home. Home. Please help me, ladies. Okay, oh Crystal, listen, best laid plans are often like the best prescription I can provide on paper. Changes. Everything changes when you bring kids into

the mix and the support system that you have. And listen, without a doubt, you should go back to where your support system is if that is what you want to do. And I probably would have answered this differently a few years ago, even but now that I have felt what it feels like to not have, you know, like a or I have felt and now I have a support system because I had to you know, befriend them and trap them into liking me and then like you know, showing up and feeding the dog when I'm not there

and taking care of the kids and stuff. Anyway, So I know what that feels like. It is so isolating, it is so difficult. And so if you have a one of your sisters who's a single mom right with the two kiddos and so you you know, you're part of her village, it's a huge like literally they are going to live in the house once you move out.

So I completely agree, and I honestly think that what you have is a pretty sweet situation in terms of being about to cross countries, so you're not in a position where you need to find a whole new job. And the fact that it sounds like they really like you at the company, they are investing in you. They take care of their employees. You already see some examples of workers who are working remotely or have transferred to other like satellite offices or whatever. Like that all bodes

well for you. And I say, you don't make it a big secret. Maybe you want to, you know, go ahead and take the exam and pass it and then like celebrate that and then lay it on them because you still have that thirty days before your lease is up.

But I would if your relationship with your manager is good, would I would just trusty that they will say true to you know how the relationship has been so far, which is if they you know, are understanding, they're flexible with you, then just tell them, like, tell them what's

going on. You don't have to give details about your relationship, but just say, you know, when I moved out here a year ago, I had a support system and unfortunately, due to circumstances, I have lost my you know, support system, and I have so much love and support on the other on the East Coast or wherever it is that you're from, and start focusing on solutions at that point and say I love work. Just tell them what you've told us, You love working there, you really enjoy you

know how supportive them your manager is. You want to make this work as there as such? Is there a world in which they would be okay with you transferring to another firm? And uh, that's the beauty of working for a big corporation. You work for a big financial firms.

They have offices in a lot of major cities, so it's you know, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility at all for you to get a yes and for them to be okay with you moving back to your hometown, especially if like you're willing to show up in that office over there or work from home. I would say what you should be prepared for is that they may be okay with you doing that, but you may not be able to stay on the exact same team, maybe because of the time difference. I don't know,

So be flexible. But I think you're in a pretty fantastic situation. And the last thing I'll add is that you have incredible experience. For being only thirty years, you have seven years of experience in the finance industry and babay, I think that you will have no problem, yes, finding another job if that is what it comes down to. But yeah, I mean tif, she sounds like she's in a good situation right now.

hardest year we had. We were made, like, you know, relatively next to no money relative to what we normally make, and so what they were asking for was not crazy, but it's like, there's just not money to pay. And it forced me to get creative. And I created a whole new profit sharing system just to accommodate these employees, because that's how great they were. It was like advise them, Yes, I said, okay, I don't have any money. Here's the money we don't have any one. I was like transparency,

here's the money. I want you to see the numbers as I see them. Two, this is what normally I would make as owners draw like, this is how owner's draws work. Three, I will share twenty percent of what I would take home with you. And so it allowed them to say okay, and so as a result of that, they just got their first payom Q one and they were all happy. Q two is they could even better. So they're even happier because then they could do the math. Now they're like, ooh, I see the money we made.

I know how much the company costs us to run monthly. This is what's likely to be left over. Tippy's gonna take her eighty is gonna go into the pool, and it's gonna be me, you know.

And then two, it sounds like they're actually wanting to develop you so that way you bring the team like on board. And the key really though, is that ultimately nobody wants to say yay, I can't wait to look for a new candidate. It's like ordering Uber eats. You know, you ever order your Uber eats that's missing, like you're SMOOTHI or whatever, and you call them, You're like, you didn't put my smoothie and they're like, we'll send your money back, and you're like, if I wanted my money,

I would have kept my money. I want my smoothie. Yeah, And so you know, so ultimately people want their people. They don't, you know, like if they wanted, like, you know, their money, they would keep their money. No, they want you girl, you the smoothie.

can't wait to hear about them. Say yes, girl, whatever you need or you're finding an even better job someplace else.

But I think that Crystal, you are in really good shape and you should be damn proud of yourself too, Mama, Like we're gonna take a break and come back.

a lower title. What do you think should I take the pay cut and a titled emotion or wait and continue to apply for other positions that are more reflective of my current work experience? Ooh job, Well, I'll just say this and I'll let Mandy lean in with her expertise, I'll say this that I mean, no job is worth the health decline. I know everyone does not have the financial ability to make choices for what's better for their health. So I can acknowledge that some people are just like, oh, girl,

is this or I starve? If you have the option beyond it's this or a starve, even if it means this and I have less, like if you're I mean, there are some things that we could do to our bodies that are not as easily repaarable than others. You don't want to put yourself in that position because stress is corrosive. You know. Stress leads to heart attacks, stress leads to strokes, stress leads to high blood pressure. Stress is just it is a corrosive killer, honestly, and so

we do not want that for you. So whatever you have to do to still pay your bills, to make sure you eat as well as reduce this level of stress, you know, I just employ you to like make that that that is paramount in this decision. But I'll let Mabie talk to you about the career component. But I just want to put that out there that it is not worth your your health and happiness like no way.

It's almost like sometimes when you have an institution that has that like has that allure, knows they're hot, is like knows that people would love to have your job. Instead of having banging benefits and being really great to their people, sometimes they can kind of be dicks and just be like, well, you work at this elite institution. You get to benefit from our brand, so put up with like the shitty commune, you know, and the fact

that they won't even give you a moving bonus. Here's what I want to say at the bathroom of your question made me think of is that in my Mandy money Maker's coaching community, I have this maker. Oh my god, Isabella just phenomenal. She also works for university, and she was just going through this like wild months long interview

process with I think two or three other universities. And not only is she negotiating for her own pay with these universities, she wants a position for her husband as well, who's also a professor. And there's actually universities that will hire a professor and then also place their spouse in a job, especially if they want to recruit someone who lives in a different city. And she got two universities to not just give her a job, but then her husband,

her spouse a job. Gives you a kidding she I'm saying, I'm saying, hey, the jackpot and she and then they negotiated her salary and his and I think that her position it's on the ten they're both ten year track positions. Maybe hers is already ten yeared. I don't know the details, but I remember being blown away, and I just I share that anecdote because I want you to know that this is not how it has to be at every

university job. And I find that people who work in education, whether it's you know, K through twelve or higher education at universities and colleges, because you are doing it for the kids and you are educating. Sometimes they think that they can take advantage of people who want to do the right thing and they'll do anything for you know,

the good of the kids and all of that. So they pay you shit or they give you shitty better and if it's and that similar to how the nonprofit sector gets off gets away with having sometimes crappy pay is because people are like, oh, I can't negotiate it. That's nonprofit. We're here for the good of whatever cause we're supporting. But no, these universities, I don't care if it's a for profit quote unquote or a nonprofit quote unquote.

They still make bank They have large endowments. You know, they have so much support from alumni and you know even from you know, the government funding these institutions as well. So I just wanted to say that as an example of this does not have to be the way it is, and you may find a university that does give you what you need, that will pay you your relocation, that will give you, you know, the flexibility that you need

so that you don't have such a shitty commute. Okay, So, as far as you know, should you take this pay cut, I totally agree with what Tiffany said when it comes to your mental health. I mean, what could you do with that much more time? And excuse me? Yeah, what could you do with that much more time, that much

more energy? And I bet you could put that time and energy into crafting the rest of your career, you know, publishing research that could raise your profile and your feel I don't know what kind of you know, what you exactly teach, or what your area of focuses, but you could do research, write a book, speak, be out there in your space, get noticed by another university you know that could recruit you. And yeah, I think that you need to make the right choice for yourself.

that way. I mean, you know, their their weakness. Like you're on a school calendar right now, a lot of recruiting, like for example, Isabelle the Baby money Maker, She's doing all these interviews throughout the school year and therefore positions that start in the fall. And like Tiffany said before, as a manager, you lose someone now, so you're gonna already have missed out and all the great candidates because they already have their positions locked in for the fall.

So they're going to be putting themselves at a disadvantage not having someone lined up for the fall to teach whatever you're teaching. So I should make them wait, let them know in the summertime. Okay, I'm gonna quit because you guys are not accommodating me, and like show them what happens if you don't show up, and like show your employees that they're valued in that you understand that it sucks to have a five hour commute round trip that is insane. Yeah, that's what I would say.