Second date update. We got an email from one of our listeners, Brandon, who wanted a second date update today. He said, it all just happened so fast and then it was over. Now he needs our help, So don't be embarrassed. Okay, happens to a lot of us. Have you tried thinking about baseball? Or were your grandma covered in curry sauce? Actually? You know what, that would just
make it go faster for me. I don't know. I don't know the advice, but we're going to try and help you, all right, Brandon, First, tell us about the woman you want us to call. What's her name? Her name is Jessica. He's like, I don't even know how to respond to people. Where'd you meet Jessica? Brandon? We meet on Tinder? Okay? Nice? Have you been on Tinder for a while? I mean, I don't want to say a while, but I've been on it, Okay, so for a while. Yeah, what stood out about Jessica to you?
We just kind of clicked. It's just, you know, I swiped and shep and then we just started messaging, and you know, we decided to go out. I know, there's sounds like there's nothing behind that, but I completely agree with you, Like sometimes you just know on tender within the first hys, you gotta have that text chemistry. Yeah yeah, like right away in the first couple of messages. You know. Okay,
so what did you guys do for your date? So for the date, you know, I went to pick her up at her place and I was fifteen minutes late, and yeah, I know every day to work, I don't know. I think fifteen minutes is fine, Like that saves you because I'm always someone who's running late. I'm like, oh, thank god, he's fifteen minutes d fashionably late. Yeah, it's not like it's not like she's sitting there worries that you're not going to show us. True, it's just awkward
to sit there. Yes, yeah, But when when people say that they're fifteen minutes late, in reality, they're like twenty what'd you show up like forty five minutes later? No, it was legit. It was like fifteen minutes or around. Okay, we're around. Oh, Jeff's going to keep going up. That's okay, We'll trust you on this. So when you got there,
what happened? So she comes out of her apartment, I'm parked across the street, and she walks across the street shakes my hand, and immediately it's like, oh, I forgot my idea. I need to run back in and get it. Okay, okay, handshake that's a little interesting. I don't know. I don't know who does know. No, that's not a thing. What are you gonna do? Like fist bump hu? Yeah? I mean maybe she was just nervous and it was awkward for her too, and she's like, oh my god, why
did I just shake his hand? Yeah, i'd have to go back inside for a minute, So she went back in. So, yeah, she goes back in and I'm waiting, you know, five ten minutes. She's not coming out. So I text her, I call her. She's still not coming out, no responses. She's ghosting you from inside her apartment. Suddenly, did you know she's there? Yeah? I mean, so I'm like, what is she doing? I'm right out here. We literally just
shook hand. Maybe it wasn't a very impressive handshake, A little bit a limp on the wrist, that's her test, that's it. No, wait, when did she finally come out? So she didn't come out, So I decided you know, if she's ditching me, I'm not going out like this. So I waited until the apartment door opens up when someone comes out, and I went inside and started knocking on doors. Oh no, that's too aggressive. That's weird, Like it's cute to do desperate stuff for a love, but no,
that's aggressivesive. I'm not trying to be super aggressive, but I just couldn't let it go. So I had to find out what was going on. So you said not today, Yeah, I'm going in. It does feel like you got ghosted and like, to your face, yeah, but I see what you're saying. You want some real answers, find out what happened. Did you ever find her? Yeah? So one of her neighbors directed me to re unit and I knocked on her door. Wait did you knock on the door? Would
you do? Well? She opened it and she was all shocked and oh my god, what an awkward moment. What did you say? Yeah? Well, I asked her if she was okay, and she, you know, is still sticking with the ID thing. So she's like, I can't find my ID and then lies to me and says she didn't hear my texts or miscalls. I mean, did you just give up? I mean, I know that you wanted to call her out for being rude, but is it really
worth it. I wanted that closure, but I gave her an out, so I said, look, if you want to ditch, it's okay. I'd rather just tell me to my face. I just want to know. Wow, what she's saying. She didn't say anything, She's just wow, she pulled me in for a makeout session. Wait, what what have you to say? She like grabbed your shirt and started making out with you. Yeah, like real passionate. And then next thing, we're kissing on
the counter. Oh god, that's because she felt guilty. I didn't say sometimes I like to do that at the end of arguments, wrap it up. Wow, this has been so weird for you. Yeah, but it went from like being bad weird too good weird. Yeah, don't fight the weirdness if it's going this way. How long? How long did you guys make out for? Ah? Well, I mean it ended up being a one night kind of thing, so it went into the morning. Oh you stayed all the way. Your lips must be exhausted. Did you ever
find her id? I don't know if you ever found her ID because I just wrote a note on a piece of paper towel and left it on the counter and that was it. I feel like I need to give you a little spoiler alert here. I don't think she's looking for her ID. Yeah, but that's so confusing though, Like what kind of vibe did you get when you guys? I mean, you had time to talk I would assume you didn't just like lock faces together all night long.
There wasn't a whole lot of talking. I mean it was barely any time to come up for breath, perfect day money. Now you didn't have to ask her about like what she like? Mary? Remember her name. The thing is, I do like her, and I want to hang out with her, like on a date. I don't want to be that guy. Oh yeah, I think that ship may have sailed for you. She's calling you back. Yeah, and I'm sure there's a lot of other guys out there that do want to be that guy. Um, but well,
so what do you think the problem is? Why do you think she's been avoiding you? If I'm being I I'm not the greatest looking guy in the world, but I'm pretty fun. I mean, it sounds like you're good enough looking. It sounds like it's more about personality. You didn't want to talk to you. I didn't really have a chance to show her my personality outside of the text, you know, like we stopped hands and then we were shaking.
Let's find out. We're gonna play a song. We'll come back, we'll call Jessica for you, and we'll try and get you your second date update. All right, man, all right, appreciate it. Hold on update if you're just tuning in for the second date update. We're talking with one of our listeners, Brandon, who might accidentally be the smoothest guy we've ever had on this show. Definitely by accident. I say that because he hardly spoke a word to his
date Jessica. They shook hands, she immediately ran back to her apartment to quote find her ID. Yeah. After a few minutes, he followed her inside, found her door knocked in. Before he even knew what was happening. They were making bacon. That is a weird way to say, No, got better, Yeah, boots, that's so full. They were doing what she said, No, you have to have a way to say. They were doing the Amsterdam boogie, and he didn't know how it happened. Okay,
it sounds like you have to pay for them. Okay, whatever things happened, and he ended up staying the night. And now, for the second time, Brandon's being ghosted by the same woman and he does not know why. Yeah, so our goal is to figure out what's going on. Yeah, Brandon, how you feeling right now? You know, I'm confused. I just kind of want to know what's going on, get some closure. Yeah, I just Brandon, are you sure you
want to do this? I think I'm just worried because a woman who's willing to literally ghost you in a parking lot, like just leave you sitting outside of her apartment and not come back out. I have a feeling can be pretty ruthless. She lit him inside, right, And I mean, and maybe it's a test, a test. Yeah. A lot of people that are doing tests tests are weird dating things. I do tests, Yeah, exactly. I mean maybe the first test was to follow her back into
her apartment. Maybe this is test number two to see if you're going to reach out and find her again. That feels through a radio station. Even maybe she's hoping that we're going to call her feels like a lot in every like a big red flag to me. But okay, the last time I confronted her about ghosting me it went pretty well, so I'm valid. Point knows what's going to happen if you can get her on sends them a nude right away. Yeah, all right, well, let's not
waste any more time. Let's just call her number. Here we go here with Jessica. Oh, hi, Jessica. I was looking for you. I was hoping you would answer, well, I don't usually to stay Hi. Hi, Hi, Jessica. This is Jeffrey from the radio show Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, and we're doing something on our show called a second date update. Are you familiar with that? You've ever heard of that before? Um, maybe we'll take that. Yeah,
if you're not familiar. It's where if you go out on a date with somebody, and afterwards, if that person isn't calling you back, you can email us and we'll reach out to them for you to try and figure out the reason why. Oh great, Yeah, it could be great. I think so, because we had somebody reach out to us about you. His name's Brandon Branding called sorry, I didn't mean to catch you off guard there. But he thought he had a really good time with you when
you guys hung out together. Is that not true? Um, it was an interesting time. I mean, you know it was awkward, Okay, awkward awkward, It doesn't sound awkward. It sounds like you knew exactly what you wanted. Listen. He was a nice guy. I have just gotten out of a like my FoST really long relationship, and like went online and he seems nice, but like he didn't look like his pictures and I kind of just got chicken. Really he told us that he does look like his pictures.
Not really no, Okay, So I mean I want to recap because normally this is the part where I would recap and I would tell you what he told us about the date. But there really wasn't a whole lot of date from the sounds of it. Yeah, I mean, he can pick me up like he was a gentleman. But as soon as I met him, I was like, yeah, I don't think so I made up like some excuse and went back to my apartment and just like turns my phone on silence, like fuck, I dodged the bullet.
So wait, you were actually trying to ghost him while he was out in the parking lot of your apartment building. Oh yeah, that is terrible, I do because you didn't find him physically attractive enough. Yeah, in real life, she just didn't seem to you know, why hook up with him if he's not well and that is so rudely. Get it. This guy is at your house. I mean, like, if you're not gonna like him, find go to coffee, do the twenty minute thing, Like he came all the
way over there, at least show him some respects. Yeah, I mean, jose brought up a good point. If that's how you felt, why did you continue and actually look up with him? Basically, he actually came into my apartment, Like, I mean, you know, I have a gated apartment, but he found his way in, and when he came to my door, I didn't know what to say, so I just kind of like started making out with him. That's your go to move when there's awkward silence. I mean,
I would love to see you a job interview. Yeah, it was so weird. I mean I like applauded his zeal to keep going even though I literally left him outside of apartment building. But then at the same time, I was like, it's been a while since I've wet my whistle. So I was like, I don't know, Oh that's a girl's but you know, like he doesn't want to be used either, like men use woman all the time. It's time. That's not an eye for an eye thing. Man, that's the problem. Well, it's not like I thought i'd
be cold on it. Okay, So wait, does that turn you on like it did before him calling you out? No, I'm so mortified right now. I hate to make you feel any more mortified than you already do, but I need to tell you the Brandon's actually on the other line listening, and he wants to talk to you. Oh heck no, Yeah, yeah, I think this one. You got an answer to Brandon? You there? Yeah, yeah, I'm here. Whoa look at that swab? What is that? Um? What
is going on? Larious? Look? I just I think it's kind of hard to say that we're not a match because you don't really know me at all. You don't know my personality. You're right, I just feel like I really wasn't ready. It was not right that I like just left you there, but I really couldn't think of anything to say, I feel really bad. Um, I mean I feel really bad because you guys are calling me, but like I actually didn't really feel that bad, like
no offense. You know, people sometimes just go on to hook up and you know you're just not mine. Okay, you know what, You're not gonna go out with me again? So why don't why don't we just get to know each other right right here? Right now? Oh? What what does that mean? Right here? Right? You know what I mean? Sort of the volume up on both your ends? Blow? Thank you? Okay? You want to do it like a quick phone date? What? Yeah? Look, I mean I get it.
I'm not the most handsome guy, but if you just got to know me a little better, maybe there could be something more here. How are you not angry at her? Are you trying to make them mad at each other? Like she's just so so again? Really, I think you're a great You really are a great sales person. I mean, you don't give up. But I didn't think that. I'm really not ready. I feel like I want more of
a hook up type of situation at this point. Is well, I just I think I have more to offer than just the physical you know, I have, I have connections to what do you like music? Oh? You get free concert tickets every once in a while. Is that? Do you like the band Train? My uncle is their manager and he used to take me backstage to all their shows and we travel around with him. I could take you,
oh for Rain tour to all the local casinos. Your manage, your manager is honestly or so your uncle's honestly the manager of Train. Yeah? Yeah, and Jeffreys so excited me. They're a good show. Okay, And Jessica, I would definitely reconsider for training for Train. If nothing else, you could go to the Grammys if a song gets nominated. I mean I did listen to them in middle school. He sold me, but I don't know if he sold you
to the Grammy. We would love to offer to send you and Brandon out on another date, and we'll pay for it. I really would just prefer to listen to your radio. Brandon. I am so sorry. I've never in my life had a girl turned me down to meet Trained before, So this is this is really shocking. You know what, Brandon, I'll go through to a concert, okay, and I'll pay for it. What do you say I mean as a friend date sure. I have a feeling
we're gonna be playing more Train on this station. He broke and Jeffrey in the morning,
