Second d One of the most vulnerable, confusing times of your life happens when you're trying to rejoin the dating pool a fresh off a breakup. Oh, that is very hard. Whether it was fifteen months ago or fifteen minutes ago, you're just the choice to hop back on to Tinder. You only waited fifteen minutes after you That was a long time for in his eye. And that's where one
of our listeners, Paul, is at in his life. He's newly single, and I know Brooke always says the best way to get over somebody is to get under twenty somebodies and a video so that don't Google search my name. Was that your goal, Paul? That was the goal, is to move on for suresh. He just didn't put batteries in the camera that takes loss. We're just messing around with you, Paul. But how long has it been since your breakup? Yeah? About a month ago, And that's right.
I know, I don't want to talk too much about the breakup, is that okay? Yeah? Yeah? How long did you guys date? Give us a little bit about the girl that you were with. We were we were living together for a long time. But you know, we were arguing all the time and just a kind of I mean totally honestly, I ended up being kind of a bad breakup. Okay, it sounds like it if you don't want to talk about it at all, but yeah, you're
ready to get back out there and make it happen. Yeah, And so I thought I found something sort of promising and I kind of a weird experience, and so I wanted to get your take on it. Maybe do you found something or did you find someone? No? Someone? Okay, it's gonna be hard for us to call things. I don't know. We could try, but tell us about this something that you met the other day names Ashley? Okay, is this on an app? Are you back on the apps? Yeah? We met. We met on an app, I'm not ashamed
to say it. And we met for dinner at a pretty nice restaurant actually, But you know, we talked on the phone a little bit before that a few times, and so I kind of felt like I knew her. Okay, that's good. Yeah, And so we were already kind of joking around. We got long at least on the phone when we met each other. We're sort of playful from the start, so that's all a good sign. I mean,
did your breakup come up a lot in the conversation? No, no, no, I've heard other other calls like this where people I end up admitting that, and I could tell you I did not. I didn't talk about the breakup at all. What did you talk about breakups in general? Didn't talk about But well, the first thing happened is we were in there. There was like this was it was a nice restaur and there was this sculpture in the lobby and we were start taking photos in front of it.
That obviously means something like you know, no, it's just like maybe she wants to record like meeting you. Yeah. I mean it's not like it's not a big deal. We're taking sort of funny, goofy whatever photos. Or it's not like real photos, you know, right, I know, I don't take a picture with all guys at any time. I take a picture with the dude, it's solely so I can show my girlfriends what he looks like. Yeah, it also brook to make some sign of a non disclosure.
Well that's just for the Google searches. I am sorry to take us back to your date. You guys took photos in the lobby. How is dinner? It was really nice. We had we had written this conversation We're gonna know each other. We're still laughing a lot. And oh and we had this is kind of weird, but we had this little contest because I guess because we're both on social media, and the contest was who could take the best filter for their meal. That's kind of funny, who
can make it look the best. Yeah, we were like, I don't care if the waiter judges us, but she won, okay, judge or would you guys go by likes? We moved by likes and she used I think she used Valencia on herself. I got a stake in the first with Mayfair and then I tried Vintage, but I feel like stake is it never looks good X pro two so he would know, but I mean steak photos aside, tell us more about this actual woman that you were with, Like, did you guys vibe? Yeah? Yeah, we were definitely viving.
And actually after anybody went to we went to a bar. Oh, continue the night. I'm happy. I just can't believe she's not calling you back already. We did something weird happened at the bar, Was there any awkward points? No, No, I'm like, we got a little tipsy, and actually after the bar I ended up kissing her out, like right outside the bar. Was man, this is like a perfect date. Bro Hut did you I mean, is that with the
end of the day the kiss? Yeah, a little bit after I took her home, But I mean I felt pretty good even But now it's been more than a week and it felt like I haven't heard from her at all, Like she's sort of like half answering me, like I don't know, Like I guess she's really busy or something. But and then I asked her about the date and I was like, oh, it wasn't that such a good time? And she kind of won't respond to that at all, which is really weird because I thought
we had so much fun. Yeah, she probably saw that photo that you took of your stak was like, oh, this guy came into I mean, but seriously, do you think that maybe during the day, like at least in the back of your mind, you were comparing Ashley to your ex, because it's hard when you're fresh off of a break up to not do that. Yeah, I get, I mean, not that you mentioned I guess it was in the back of my mind kind of, But why
would that affect his time with her? I mean like, it sounds like they had a great time and he didn't even talk about his ex. I know, maybe he just secretly drew her name in the steaks on his plate and didn't even realize what you do? Okay, that would be weird if he didn't remember that no steak juice that yeah, the only liquids I remember, the ones we share a kiss. I'm not gonna ask any more details were play a song. I don't know. Maybe that's
why she's not calling. Maybe we'll find out. We'll come back, we'll call Ashley and we'll ask her about the juices. I get. Second, we're in the middle of talking to Paul for a second eate update, and he went out with a woman named Ashley recently. They took some photos together at a restaurant, hit up a bar, even kissed underneath a street light. And I only bring this up because he specifically told us please don't bring this up. The ex girlfriend was in the back of his mind
the whole time. Everywhere he looked, there she was, her face on the waiter's face, her name on the restaurant menu, her scent in the second stall to the left, Cassie that you know, he doesn't think he talked about his ex that night. But as I've learned from working with my co host Brooke, you can't trust what a man thinks. Paul seems totally healthily moving on from his relationship, his ex relationships. She can recognize Michael from a stall, I could,
But yeah, Paul, did I encapsulate the date the right way? There? Um? I don't know. I'm just don't say no, Paul, you were thinking about your because I'm not really thinking about her. I really, it's old news. I'm really focused on Ashley right now. Yeah, I can't figure out why she isn't responding to me. Really, I can't either, because I mean, from your description that date sounded amazing. It was, and you're not looking to get into another relationship. You just
want to date? Right? Well? I might, Yeah, I know I do want a new relationship. I'm okay, I'm moving on. Oh okay, okay, yeah, you've pushed into that now. He's a relationship guy. I'm not going to bring that up. And when we call her right now, Okay, we're just gonna ask for another date. Is that cool with you, Paul? Yeah, totally. Then you ask for a relationship on your own topic. Here, I'm gonna tell her number. Now let's do this. Hello. Hi, is this Ashley yea, and my name's Jeff from the
radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Okay, can always tell how they feel about the show based on that googwarm that's all right? Hi? Actually, Hi, Hey, so we're doing something with you? Did they called a second date? Update? One of our listeners has reached out to us hoping to get in touch with you. Oh, his name's Paul. Okay, then why would you call me? I mean we've been texting. He's getting the vibe that you're not really romantically interested
in him anymore. Is he wrong? No, he's not wrong. I'm definitely not interested in pursuing it any further. Okay, you're allowed to feel that way. That's totally fine, But it would help, Paul, maybe if you could help explain to us why. I don't know. I mean he seemed really nice at first, and at the restaurant it was
super cool. I don't know if he told you or not, but there was this blue sculpture in the front, and so we were like taking pictures yea, yeah, which we all thought was a really good sign because obviously you thought he was cute enough to take a photograph of. Yeah, I mean he was on to suggest that. Oh okay, okay, But I thought it was fun. You know, I didn't really think a lot of it. I was just like, oh, you know, if I want to post something, you know,
he'd be fine with that, right. And then you also did the social media thing with the food he said it did her Yeah, oh yeah, and that was actually pretty fun because I'm really good at the filters, Like I knew I would win. So yeah, okay, of course. But so where did it go from being fun to not fun? Well, I mean fast forward and we kissed under that like light or whatever, and I was like, I'm definitely going out with this guy again for sure.
So cute. Yeah, I was really excited. It was kind of that wondering when he's going to text, you know, and it's such a fun space to live. It's like the best part of dating that. That's a really good review. What's changed since then? Well, I decided to look at his social media the next day. Okay, that's natural. Anyone would do that picture he told us it didn't turn out good. Well, I mean mine was way better. But okay, he had posted all of the pictures of us, like
in front of the statue. Oh no, I get it. You're an influencer and so it's part of your job. But it was just weird because I wasn't really expecting him to post them right after we just stated for the first time, right, yeah, telling you like, it's just kind of like if you check with you, like, oh my god, do you mind if I put those up on? Why would you take a picture if you wouldn't want anybody to see the picture? Everybody? I can. Actually, I
do the same thing. You go on a date, you take a pick, and then that way, you know, in two or three, four or five months, if you're dating, you can have like a compil That's true. Okay, So you don't like that he posted the photos of you without permission. Well I could have gotten over that because I could have been like, hey, maybe take those down, right, But the caption was what got me. Oh I'm scared it was it he'd captioned it. My ex said, no one would ever love me, but how do you like
me now? Oh no, no, ready to move on. Yeah, you guys aren't to the love phase yet. It's just like, I think that's over emphasizing, Jeff. None of fing is terrible. Yeah, someone should have reported that. I mean, he didn't even mention an ex the whole night, and so it just kind of I felt so used. Yeah, it feels like a revenge day. Yeah, like you you didn't say anything to him after you saw that. What am I gonna say, like, hey, crazy,
don't do that. Good luck over there, buddy. I mean, if you do have anything that you would like to say, now is a really good opportunity for you, because Paul's been on the other line listening this whole time. He wants talk. Yeah, he wants to talk to you. Paul. You there, Oh I can't come here. Oh hello, Yeah, I feel like maybe you got some unpacking to do about that ex there. I wanted everyone to know that I was over her right and that it's done. Yeah,
that's a best way to show it. Well, that's my way, that's my way of doing things. I want it like I wanted. I wanted her to see it. Obviously, the captain you think that posting that makes you come off like a confident, attractive guy, like you could see how maybe Ashley seeing that would be a little bit turned off. Yeah, like you're not over her. Well, I didn't expect her to see it, and I I like, I mean, I don't even care if she saw it, because I want I want my actually know that it moved on and
I'm not interested in her anymore. Okay, So, Paul, sure, usually the best way to do that is to just actually be over her and not call her out and if she wants it, but I am, and that's why. That's why I wrote that. Okay. So, so you're saying, like if your ex girlfriend were to text you tonight and say, hey, I saw that photo with you and that girl, you need to drop that floozy. I want you right now, let's get back together. Yeah, you're saying
that you wouldn't do that. I wouldn't get back together with her like we might hook up and being totally on. Okay, So they can't be honest with you that you said you're completely moved on, you're not interested anymore. I'm not I'm moved, I'm not interested. That's not interested it's just Paul, you need to talk to You need to talk to Ashley. I feel like you owe her apology because like that does feel like you just took her out to prove
a point to your AX. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what else to say that that actually said that I'm over my ax, Like there's like there's proof online that I'm over my AX with you're actually why do I feel like she's tagged in the photo? She's not tagged in the photo. She unfriended me. But but is looking better? Is it? No? And I don't understand. They just asked you a hypothetical and you said you'd still hook up with her. Yeah. Yeah, I'm practicing radical honestly.
It's the thing I've been trying to do radical. Wow. I mean, Astley, where are you going to meet a guy that's willing to be completely honest? This is a catch and I would love to send you out with Paul one more time and we'll pay for it. It feels like honest Paul is going to be we're a stick content to a relationship And oops, I hooked up with a stripper all on, but I know he's gonna take a picture and post it on social media. Doesn't being ridiculous. I'm being upfront, I mean honest, and I'm
being rapped over the cult for it. That's true. That's true. Hey, you know it is good to be honest. It just doesn't sound like you're being honest with yourself about how ready you are to move on from your ex. I'm ready and I like you, Ashley, and I will never lie to you. Oh he's a big statement, Ashley. I don't know the last guy who was quote unquote honest with me about his ex went back to her and you get Let's be real, Ashley, that steak pic was
really bad. So he does have a lot working against him. Are you single, Ashley? My food picks are the absolute worst. Yeah. I only know how to do him in black and white. Hey, are you moving in on my girl here? Because that will be really rude. Are you talking about, Ashley? Are your ex girlfriend who broke and Jeffrey in the Morning a huge missed opportunity for us on the show. So the guy's posting all sorts of stuff on his social media and we don't ask him to put up a
photo of us doing his second date free exposure. Yeah, and really shows the exit. He's over her because we didn't talk about her. Stop. Yeah, look, man, see this is why we don't have our blue check mark on TikTok. This is not I don't think. Okay, well, I do cringe every time I hear a guy being vulnerable and honest on this show because you know that Brooks just waiting to pounce on saying I told you you shouldn't do that. How he was not being honest with himself?
Yeah at all? Yeah, he misses his exit, can't stop thinking about Okay, so he should be a liar. Well, I just it's not the way you're gonna get another date is by using your date as revenge to the person you're just with. Okay, we'll go. You say he shouldn't have posted pictures without her permission. I say she shouldn't have looked at his pictures without her without his permission. We can do this all day social media is you have to be friends first, not necessarily. All I'm saying
is we could argue about this forever. There's no one is right in dating. I think you're gonna end up single at the end of this conversation. Okay, well, then maybe I could appear on a second date up one day, but the truth I'm never going to be not at all. If you ever want to get a second date up date, email the show. We'll call the person who wasn't calling you back
