Second Date Update PODCAST: Set the Bar Low

the girl he wants to call in two months. Yeah, he's doing the two months slow play, which I think is a little too long. But Jason, I don't know, man, I don't know exactly what your goal is here. But you want to call her now for a second date update? Why wait two months? Well? Okay, so I think I'm in a little bit of a unique situation here. See I went out with this girl, Kathy two months ago, and we went to a dinner and it was it was you know, hey, oh great. So now you're just

reading that, it's okay. I waited two months, it was okay, figured I couldn't find anything better. So now I'm going to call Kathy back. Is that in the plan? Oh? No? No. I. Yes, yeah, it sounds like that's the plan, Jason. Is that the plan is that horrible? Yes? I just think that maybe, after you know, all this time, I came to a realization that this was actually what a date maybe is more supposed to look. Like what does that mean, Jason?

Because if I didn't call somebody back for two months and then I was like, all right, look, I gotta get ahold of them. Even though it's been a long time, I really liked them. I wouldn't describe them the way you just describe the girl that you want to call. What's her name, it's Kathy, Kathy. I wouldn't describe them the way that you describe Kathy and be like, hey it was you know, it's good. Well, let me let me tell you about our date. So we go to

dinner and things are going okay. You know, there were no like awkward surprises in the first ten minutes, and I'm trying to facilitate conversation and like, you know, talk about ourselves, and every single step of the way to conversation just dies, you know. And it's not like it's the worst date in the world, but it's like that there are these long stretches of silence where like you just want to squirm in your seat and you don't know what you're supposed to do. It sounds like a

fabulous date, no wonder you want to call her back? Well, see, that's sort of what I thought. I thought things were not going well because about thirty minutes and she starts check on her phone. So it doesn't sound like Kathy wants to date you either, So okay, that's what I believed. And then the next morning she texts me and says, hey, thanks so much for last night. It really meant a lot to me. Okay, if you're out with her, there's

a lot of lulls in the conversation. She's checking her phone thirty minutes in, and you find out that she actually had a great time. So I mean, I get that text and I sort of look at it for a few minutes, and then I think, like, no way, there's no way I'm going out on another day with this Carol Like it was bad, yeah, bad day. It was so weird. Yeah, And you're like, if that's your definition of fun, we have two different definitions of fun obviously, exactly,

So what made you change your mind? So It's been two months and I've been on dates since then, trying to sort of figure out what is actually good for me, And every single date has been so much worse than that day, so much so you want to call her after two months. Not because she was so fantastic, she just wasn't a psychopath. Well, she wasn't a psychopath. And

like I didn't have a bad time, I hadn't. It wasn't great, But like, you know, maybe maybe they say that, like you know, marriage is like a partnership, sort of like the boring married couple, right well, like you know, maybe this is that right off the bat, and I can know what to expect all the way down the line, you know, comfort. Normally I would be really against this, but I feel like online dating has given people too many choices that you don't ever know what was good.

Like if it was pre online dating, maybe you would have given her a second chance and the second time it would have been fantastic. And this date wasn't It wasn't a bad date. You know. I enjoyed my meal

and the company was Okay, this is amazing. No, I'm starting to think that okay is what I need, you know, And you know, I listen to your show to second Date Update, and I've heard some of the people that are on here before, and I know how bad things can be, and I, you know, this isn't that, you know, I think, I think this is this is way better than that. Yeah, just a little lagging conversation when you guys went out and she didn't like mess her pants and throw up on it. Honestly, it could be so

much worse for me, so much worse. I love that our show is like taking a low bar and lowering it even further. Yes, well, lets you know it, lets you know how bad things can get. But that should be our new show slogan. Yeah, brook at Jubil in the morning, let's you know how bad things can get. But honestly, Jason, she's probably not going to be super excited that you haven't called her for two months. Yeah,

I realize that may be a problem. I did text her um like a day ago and said, like, you know, long time, no talk, stranger, Like I just trying to like ignite like a conversation, and I have not gotten a response, which I don't blame her for, but you know, I really do want to like reach out and at least try to get a second Okay, all right, Well we'll play a song come back, and then call Kathy and see if she's willing to go out with you again,

since she's not the worst option. Yeah, all right, thanks guys, probably will get your second date update right after this brooking jubil in the morning. Second update. If you're just tuning in for today's second date update, we have Goldilocks on the phone. Goldilocks goes by the name of Jason. He's been in the dating world and most of his dates have either been too hot or too cold, and he wants us to call Kathy for him right now. And Kathy is well, she's not even just right, she's

just okay, and that's why he likes her. He actually went out on a date with her two months ago and hasn't talked to her since. But now he wants to call her to get another date because, according to him, all of his other dates have been so bad that he's thought about it and he's like, yeah, this one was actually probably the most decent date I've had in two months, so why not give it a shot and

see if she'll go out with me? Jason, I feel like you should tell her or we should tell her that you want to give it another shot, because hey, the first one wasn't so great, but first dates are hard, and maybe the second date would be better. Yes, I think that's part of what I'm hoping. Okay, that's the message you're trying to get out, not like, well she

was good enough, that's a little bit. I mean, I think I'm a little worried that it's going to come across as because you know, I texted hers two in two months. So the fear is that, you know, she'll think what I what I said. Yeah, okay, all right, she'll understand the truth. But I wouldn't I wouldn't even call out how bad the date was. I mean, it was on your end, you said it was boring, but she texted you the day after, right, Yeah, So I think I think I'll say something like I wasn't ready

at the time. I liked you too much and I didn't know how to do it, so I went away for two months. Yeah it might work. All right, I'm gonna doll her phone of her right now, Jason, here, we are you ready? Yeah? Thanks? Good? Hello? How can I speak to Kathy please? And this she Hey, what's up, Kathy? How are you? This is Jewil from Brook and Jewil in the Morning. From what Brook and Jewil in the Morning.

It's a radio show. A radio show, yeah yeah, like the kind that you hear when you're listening to the radio and then they're people doing a show on their good description. We do one of those. Yeah, okay, and I'm calling you today because we actually got an email from one of our listeners about you. Oh okay, I know this is weird, but we do a segment on

our show called the second Date Update. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then end up not calling them back after they email us to see if we can get you on the phone and find out what went wrong. Okay. Your situation is a little different though, because the guy that wanted us to call you actually kind of blew you off, but he's regretting it now. His name is Jason. Jason, like a few months ago, Jason. Yep, I think we're talking

about the same Jason. He's calling to get in touch with me now. Yeah. He emailed us and said that he really enjoyed your date and he doesn't really know why he took so long to get back to you, but he tried to actually the other day. Now you haven't texted him back, so he thought he didn't. Lest our help to see if we can get you on the phone and find out if you would like to see Jason again or if you enjoyed your time with him. That's actually pretty funny. Um, that was actually a pretty

big night for me. Weirdly enough, the date you had with Jason was a big night. Yeah, kind of. It's just weird that he's asking now. I mean, like, why wait, like two months, that's okay, that's what we said. Well, what was so big about that night for you? Um? Well, honestly, uh, that night I kind of came to the conclusion that I was more interested in women than men. Whoa wow,

Like you came out of the closet that night. Well, I mean that came like, you know, like a week or so later, But like I that night I realized, you know what it was that I actually wanted good for you? Wow, way to find your truth? How did that hit you all of a sudden while you're out with Jason. I just kind of felt like the whole time on our date, I was just kind of bored, Like I felt like I was really grasping at things to talk about, and they just, you know, nothing was

really landing. And over the course of the evening, I just kind of felt like I was more interested in like looking at our waitress than I wasn't Jason, was this something you were thinking about like prior or? It was?

Literally everything happened that night. I think I had some a little bit of confusion, But I just had been dating men my whole life, and I just, you know, I felt like this was what I was supposed to be doing, and then it was just that night, I was just like, what am I doing clearly and continually date guys that I'm not interested in? Why am I not interested in them? Maybe because I'm not interested in

men in general. Good on you, Kathy, But I'm confused though, because he said that you texted him the next morning like praising your night with him. Well, I honestly just wanted to thank him, Like I really woke up that next morning just feeling like a whole new person, and I wanted to thank him because I feel like that was the turning point for my life. Like I feel like I know who I am Now, that's amazing. He

read your text completely wrong. He thought you were texting him saying how much fun you had on the date, not that your date was so boring it made you switch teams. Oh my god, he thought that I meant like that I had a good time. Yeah. Yeah, Oh, I meant like, thank you for helping me figure out my life, right, thank you for helping reveal my truth. I'm sure he'd be shocked to know that that's what that text meant. And you might be shocked to know that he's on the other line listening and wants to

talk to you. Oh no, Jason, Yeah, shocked. Oh season, I'm sorry. I just I can't believe this. You're telling me that that I like because you went on a date with me, you realize that, you know, I mean, if there was anything wrong with you, well there is. There's a big thing wrong. Well there's a thing wrong with Jason. You've been with guys before, though, I don't understand why, you know why it was your night with me that changed everything? Like, what was I doing so wrong?

You didn't do anything wrong. I think it was just the culmination of a lot of dating of men and realizing that I wasn't enjoying myself, and I guess you were just the last date that I didn't enjoy that. I kind of went, well, maybe it's because I'm not ago men. Yeah, but then why would you text me the next morning like that is only something that you would do if you were interested in me. If I recall, I texted you that, you know, just thanking you for a great night. I didn't ask to see you again.

I mean, you didn't text me back, so I figured, oh, great, wrong with your age? Yeah that would still I mean, that was still kind of a lie. Then, right, you didn't have a great night with me? What, Jason, are you actually but her about this? Yeah? Of course I am, Like, I was not the reason that it was a boring date. I don't buy that as the reason she texted me that in the morning. I think she's you know, I think you're trying to get back at me. If I'm honest, Jason,

are you accusing Cathy of lying? I mean, I don't believe that that was the night she decided that she was, you know, playing for the other team. I don't believe it. So Jason, you're saying that you are just God's gift to women, And there's absolutely no way that I could not be interested in you that I'm saying. I think that maybe you're upset that I didn't text you back, and so now you're trying to embarrass me on the radio and that's the set. How are you turning her

moment of truth into something that's about you, dude? I just think it's it's a pretty good story, you know what I mean, Like she was on her phone the whole night, and you're telling me that was the turning point of her life. No way testing my best friend because we had been having this conversation about you know, am I interested in women? I don't know, I don't

know how I feel. And I had, you know, just such an epiphany on our date that yeah, I texted her and it really still was appropriate to share with you. I think would have been if you shared it with him. Like, hey, by the way, half an hour into this date with you, I just figured out that I am a lesbian. All right, let's finish up. Do you want dessert? I mean maybe he could have been my wingman for the waitress. I mean, I don't know, yeah, Jason, I mean, you guys could

still be friends. You did help her in a big moment of her life. It was very pivotal. Yeah. Yeah, I did introduce you some of my friends, like, I'm open to that. Well, Kathy, what would you say to going out on another date with Jason? We will pay for it? Would you go on a second date with Jason? I would say, if he wants a wingman to help him find women and you guys want to pay for that, I would love to help him in that situation. So, Kathy, is that a knowe? Or will you go out with

Jason and help him find chicks? I mean, I do have some friends, but I could probably set him up with You're saying you might have some straight friends who who who would be interested in me to they actually go out on a date Jason. No, I mean, honestly, at this point, I'll just take any date with anyone who wants to go out with me. Oh my gosh, well, congratulations, Jason deserves you might have got a second date. I just I hope I don't bring anyone else to any

big realization on my next date. Broken up in the morning,