Second Date Update PODCAST: Schools NOT for Fools

being just blown off for a date? Somebody constantly scheduling with you and then changing it over and over and over and over again, because it's like, why can't you just be honest and say I don't want to go out with you instead of constantly stringing me along and be like, uh, I can't go out today, but how about like two weeks from now, and then you schedule two from Oh my god, something else came up. That's the issue that Jill is having. Jill is on the

phone today for a second day update. She emailed us about a guy named Sam that she met online. Jill, how are you? I'm good? How are you? Guys? So that seems to be the issue. Huh Sam is just kind of stringing you along. Yeah, he just keeps pushing things further and further away from me, and I just don't understand why. Okay, well, how did you meet him? First of all? We met online? You did. I thought he was super nice and we had talked for a few weeks before we actually decided to me. But we

did have like good conversation throughout that time. Was it a dinner and drinks type of situation? Yeah, yeah, it was a dinner day okay. And he was just super nice and handsome, and I was just like really excited about it. But there was like a red flag. What was that? I really thought he was a good guy, so I was giving him every signal I could think of to try and get him to kiss me. You're like touching his arm, You're pushing your boobs together, You're

trying to closer to him. Yes, yes, you know, the shuffling of the keys at my car door, like everything. Oh, that's the worst when you're standing there and just waiting. Yes. And even more embarrassing is that there was a point where I was literally like inches away from him, like our toes worth touching, okay, and he just was not getting it. No, no, And all he could muster was like, yeah, let's hang out this weekend. In his defense, maybe he's just a guy that gets nervous in that situation, or

maybe he doesn't kiss on the first date. There are some guys like that. It's very rare. Usually guys don't kiss on the first date because they're scared to go in for it. I've been in that situation too, where I can tell a girl wants to kiss you really bad, but still in the back of your head, and you're like, no, I don't think she went out. I don't think she enjoyed herself enough to do it. I'm not going to do it. Then the date is over and you're like,

damn it, I miss the opportunity. So really, I hope that's what happened. Why didn't you just kiss him, Jill? What kept you from doing that? I felt like I was trying to make all the moves to get him to know that I was interested, so him like not reciprocating in the same way. I felt like nervous about it because I'm like, I'm not gonna just, you know, jump on him because I was giving him all these signals. Do you feel like he didn't want to kiss you.

I don't know. That's what I don't understand. Like, I thought it was a good sign that he said, all right, let's hang out this weekend, so I'm like, Okay, so he doesn't not have an interest in me. He does because he wants to see me more. And anytime you refer to future plans, it's always a good sign. If we call this guy and get him on the phone and he says, dude, she just was like a close talker, especially at the end of the night while she's jingling

or keys in my face. Her breath was just terrible, and I thought about kissing her and she just smells funny. Are you gonna be upset? Of course, but I would. I would at least like to know, because he keeps making these future plans, but then they just keep getting pushed, like every three days, like the day comes and then he's like, sorry, I forgot about this with work or whatever. Let's hang out a couple of days from now. And then that day comes and you're like, you're just gonna

kill me. But this and this came up. How many times has he rescheduled five times? Do you think he's just flaky or do you think that he's trying to not see you? I don't know. I usually think that like you would just stop responding or send me a tax and it just didn't work out or whatever. But don't keep bree scheduling, and I just really want help with it because I don't know what went wrong. I'm the person who overbooks myself and I always screw somebody

in the situation and it doesn't feel good. So maybe it's just that you know, he has a couple more priorities over you right now because you've only gone on one date. Yeah, and I understand that. I just would want to know that that's the truth. Yeah, not feel like he's just stringing me along, you know what I mean? Totally. So you're kind of in that weird limo spot where you're like, Okay, is he really that busy or is

he blowing me off? Exactly? Okay, Well, we'll play a song, come back, call him and get your second date update, and hopefully we can find the answer for you. Okay, Okay, thank you so much. All right, hang on looking jubil in the morning. Second update. All right, Jill, you're ready to go with your second date update? Yeah, okay, I do have to tell you unfortunately, I'm gonna need to

reschedule your second day update for three days from now. Okay, that's all right, don't do that if you're just tuning in. Jill wants us to call this guy named Sam. They met online, had a nice date. At the end of the date, he kind of chickened out and kissing her, but they made plans to go out again, and he's been blowing her off constantly, just rescheduling the date. He hasn't actually said he doesn't want to see her again.

So we're gonna give him a call, see if we can get him on the phone and ask if he's legitimately busy and has to switch the date every time because he's switching now five times, Is that right, Joe, Yeah, five, he switched your date five times. So we're gonna see if he's actually busy or if he really is just blowing her off. And if he is legitimately busy, you want us to try to nail down a date so

you guys can actually go out. Actually, I just want to find out where he is right now, and now I'll just meet him right It's even a better idea, Like if we're get him on the phone, he's like, no, I'm really busy. Just dude, stay where you are. I'm gonna get her car to come meet you right now. A lot Okay, I'm gonna call him right now so you can get him on the phone. Hello, Hey Sam there, Yeah, see Sam. How are you. This is Jewil from Brook and Jewil in the Morning. Okay, Hey, are you familiar

with our show at all? I mean kind of? Okay? Well, I'm calling you because I have something to ask you about. You recently went out with a girl named Jill who listens to our show. Yeah, I did, Okay, and Jill. Jill emailed us and told us a little bit about meeting. You told us about your date, said that she liked

you a lot. She says that you guys have tried to schedule meetings to go out again, and every single time the date comes up, you switch it for a couple of days, like you've blown her off five times now, and she's wondering if you actually really want to go out again or if you are not into her, and you're just afraid to tell her that no, I'm not going I've texted her. Okay, I'm just busy. I'm really busy.

That was her worry, because she told us that you've texted her and you've like changed the date every single time that you guys are supposed to go out. Yeah, I mean I've work, I'm I'm busy. I mean, she's a nice girl, she's great. God, I just have a lot to do right now. But you can see how she'd think that you're blowing her off, right. Are you really that busy? Yes'm I'm busy, guys. I mean, why are you questioning like I'm lying? Well, I don't know

just because it's sam, I don't mean. Yeah, I've been in the situation before where you know, I've either done that to somebody or somebody has done that to me, and you feel like, man, they just don't want to see me again. So Jill emailed us to call you and ask if you didn't want to see her again. So you do want to see Jill again? Yes, of course, I mean she was. She's great, she's pretty, she's awesome. I just I'm busy right now. You know, we have to find the time. What are you so busy with?

I mean, I know you work, but five times is a lot. Are you just kind of nervous around her? It's understandable if you are. I mean, I'm kind of like uncomfortable about this. So I can tell you, guys, what's going on. If you promise you just kind of like stop questioning me about it, brought me about it,

because it's making me a little awkward for sure. Man, Like, I just want to let Jill know that you actually like her so we can get you guys in the same place at the same time, like you've been trying to do. Just you can let her. Maybe it'll help if you let her know that I do want to see her again. It's just there's a reason why I'm

taking it slow. It's because I didn't get opera. She's a couple of months back split from my ex, and she emailed me and she told me the reason why she broke up with me is because she said I was a bad kisser. Oh, all right, that sucks. So you got broken up with because you're a bad kisser and that's why you are scared to kiss Jill. Yes, you know that can't be a real reason, and that your ax is just trying to hurt your feelings, right, I mean I don't she seemed pretty specific in the email,

So I don't you know, Yeah, that would suck. Like there's somebody can say they don't like your personality, but then to be like, oh, you're a terrible kiss are so bad that I couldn't stay with you, that's gotta like stick with you for a little while. It does, It does, and that's why I'm trying to get better at it. That's what I'm doing right now. It's trying to get better at it. I'm trying to get better. What do you mean you're trying to get better at it?

There's a school that helps you with that's a kissing school. Are you being real? Yes, that's why I've been the dates back because I've been busy going to school. Then like workshop, you're Sam, You're going to a kissing school. Yeah, and this is why, you know, that's why I'm uncomfortable about it. Like I tell people, you know, if I tell somebody, they're not gonna believe me, or they think it's a joke or something. It's like a knowledge that's awesome.

This really exists. It's not like you're meeting somebody in the back alley right. No, no, no, this is a legit, real school. It costs me three hundred and seventy five bucks to sign up, and you know, they offer you workshops and there's one on one lessons and all that, and it takes a little bit of time, and once I'm done, that's when I know I'll call Jilla. We'll go back out. Hey, Sam, good for you, man, Like you know what, thank you for sharing that with us.

I appreciate it. I know, like you said, you feel embarrassed about that. But if you feel like you were a bad kisser and you didn't want to kiss her, I would think that a girl would be flattered by the fact that you've just paid three and or seventy five dollars to go get classes to learn how to kiss her. Right, Yeah, honestly, that's what I'm hoping for. So I mean, if you guys can tell her I want to see her again. I get you know, I definitely told her, but if maybe you know, you can

kind of back me up, that would be great. Sam. You know what, why don't you just tell her because she's actually on the phone listening. Wait what, Jill just listened to our conversation. Oh, I had no idea that that was the reason. What's going on here? It's called a second date update. We do it on our show where we call somebody who went on a date with one of our listeners and they think they're being blown off,

and we asked them what happened. We have that person listen on the other line to see if we can get an answer. And Jill just heard you say that you're going to a kissing school, so hopefully you can kiss her better if you, guys ever go out again. Please tell me this is like make believe. It's not make believes you poor baby. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Uh, you know, this is really embarrassing for me. I mean, I screwed up somewhere in

the past, obviously, I'm just trying to fix it. Funnel do it again with you. And yeah, Sam, you make it sound like you're like a drug addict who like had a problem. You just were told by the next that you don't kiss that. Well, it's like a problem you had in your past. I think you're gonna be okay, man. Yeah, I mean, I actually think it's really cool that you're you know, you're trying to look into it and make yourself feel more confident about it and you don't even

have to worry about it. Well, I'm not going to pressure you or anything, but I mean that's the thing. I mean, I enjoyed our time. I really do like you, Jill. I enjoyed going out with you, and I don't want to ruin it by, you know, being a bad kiss us, because it's like she thought was bad, and you know, if you think I'm bad and you don't want to go out with me anymore, it's like no, no, I understand why there would be a fear there, but I really it can't be so bad that I would, Yeah, Sam,

I would. It would find it hard to believe that you're that bad of a kisser that Jill's gonna kiss you one time after she already likes you from your first date and then she's just gonna go running for the hills, like, oh my god, I's terrible. I doubt

that you're that bad of a kisser. I thought I wasn't that bad before, but clearly someone broke up with me better now it's and it's sometimes like it's just that two people's chemistry doesn't work well together, and maybe it was just you and your ex kissing with a different person different every time. I mean to think of all the cool stuff you've learned. Yeah, I mean it's the classes I've been good and I really feel more

comfortable doing it. I just want it to be you know, perfect, you know, I mean they say these first kids is always like that's the big thing, you know, Sam, I have an idea while you save the rest of your three hundred and seventy five dollars and we just go out on dates and then we can practice. That's a good idea, Jail, Sam, would you like to go out

with Jill again on a second date. We will pay for it, of course, I mean, yeah, absolutely, And before your classes are done at the kissing school, I want you guys to go out soon. Okay, yeah, I can. I can do that. I mean I would rather, I would rather practice with her. Yeah, there you go, extra credit, Sam, So you'll go out with Jill again. Absolutely, I want you, Jill. I'm assuming you want to be his kissing coach from this point on. Oh of course. All congratulations, And you guys,

Jill you got your second date. We'll send you guys out again, alight. And if before you guys get more intimate and he suddenly disappears, he's like I was going to a sex school trying to figure out I would not recommend another date after that, okay, Jew in the morning, text in at seven eight, five nine two says that's so sweet. I almost cried. Really enjoyed the kissing classes. Cutie pies is what it says. Broken jewel in the morning, and we're talking about the second date update if you

missed it. Jill went out what the dude named Scott once and after that date he kept being kind of elusive and postponing the second meetup. In fact, he rescheduled five different times, and Jill thought, of course she was being blown off and can figure out why because they had such a great time. And we got Scott on the phone and he revealed that the reason that he kept promising a date and then changing it is because he enrolled himself in a kissing class to improve his

kissing skills. He said he had an X who recently said the reason she dumped him is becau he's a horrible kisser, so he's trying to fix that. I just have so many questions about these kissing schools. No, I didn't know they exist at all. Interesting. Jill thought the reason was endearing and cute, and of course wanted to go out with him again if he learns to be a better kisser. Yeah, I wonder how bad he really was Toy, Yes, exactly. I mean, just keep doing it, man,

you'll get better. I think, well, I don't know. I've had a couple of boyfriends and I'm like, that's not ever going to improve. There's some people who never get better at it at all, so they're going to go out again. Remember, if you want a second date update, I have to do his email the show, and we will call the person who didn't call you back to