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but to the other person it looked really bad? You know, Like I know as a guy, if you ever over at a girl's place trying to hook up and you like hop into the bathroom to bust out some push ups real quick to make your chest seem bigger. Is that really something that you do? Oh? Yeah, you want to. You want to get that swell on to seem a
little bit bigger than you are. But through the door, all she can hear is a bunch of grunting yeah, And then you come out all sweaty, and it's like, oh, you thought I will Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not what I was doing. You don't hook up very much, do you, Jeffrey, It was I had a rough go early on there. Well, one of our listeners apparently got himself into a situation that was totally legitimate, but it may have looked really, really bad. Oh no,
his name is TJ. TJ will get to your embarrassing moment in just a second, but first, tell us about the girl you want to call today. What's her name? Hey, guys, so her name is Alicia? Okay, jolly TJ. Where'd you meet Alicia? I met her on that app Plenty of Fish? All right? Oh, I mean we say it like that. Why did you choose plenty of Fish? TJ? Can you tell us that's a good question. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like Tinder and some of those other apps are more like hookup apps, and I'm at a place where I'm
looking to meet somebody to have a relationship with. Yeah, what I think of plenty of Fish. I didn't know Fish had enough money to make an app. That's amazing. Well, when there's plenty of them together, they yeah, pulled it. We're just saying that because Plenty of Fish is kind of known in the dating world. It's like the very bottom end of the app, if that makes sense. It's actually not what I've heard, and I kind of feel that Tinder's kind of the bottom of the barrel and
you got I mean, you got a hot date. It sounds like out of it, right, t J. Yeah, it was actually very interesting. She had a link in her bio to this YouTube video and it was like her dancing at a wedding and she had so much energy and it was horrible. It was horrible dancing. But oh my god, I love you for that is cool. Yeah, we all know somebody that's just a terrible dancer, but you know what, it's cool that they just own it. Yeah. I mean the people who like really go all out
are the ones that you love the most. Yeah, it's really endearing. Yeah, I mean Alexis is in the room. She knows understands. Terrible dancer, Alexis, And if I'm being honest, I'm also a horrible dancer, but I do it with enthusiasm. Say that's cute. So did you use that as an opening line with her or something? I actually did, And it was great because it wasn't that typical like hey, what's going on. It was like, I'm also a bad ding sir, That's what I said. All right, Okay, obviously
that worked out for you. So what did you guys do for your date. So I took her out to this nice restaurant and you know, dressed up. I was really excited to get her a good meal and it was a great time. But I'll be honest, I don't I don't go to a lot of nice restaurants. I'm not, like, how dare you? We only talk to people who go out to nice restaurants on a consistent basis. He's like, I'm normally good with like Chipotle and McDonald's. Like I'm
but I wanted to do something nice. And we go to this restaurant and a little something happened at the beginning that I think maybe threw her off. It threw me off. I'm not used to places that bring you wines to the table and give you that gave me like a little sample of the wine to taste it to see if I would like it. I was completely unaware that you're not supposed to spit it back out. No, you have to have like a spatoon if you're going to do that. Did you where did you spit it
back out? Right back in your glass? Yeah? Listen, I used to be a fine dunning server. When you see someone not know what to do, it is excruciating as a server. But honestly, she laughed and like she didn't seem to judge me for that. Yeah, and you shouldn't be judged for it. I mean it's a silly mistake and it's cute that you're laughing at it yourself. Totally. Yeah, So is that the embarrassing thing that you said happened? So that was a embarrassing thing that happened. There was
something else. We got back on track. We had good conversation, had some wine, had a really good time, swallowed it this time. Yeah, it just spins it all exactly, brought me a different glass. So it was great, good service. And at the end, she had made it very clear when she got there, you know, like in a nice way, that she would feel more comfortable if we split the check, which was totally cool with me, you know, like I
get that, no pressure. So we did that. We each put our card on the Okay, her card, she had like a unique cover on her card though. It was actually really cool. It was like this eagle over the ways with a sunset, Like I've never seen a credit card like this. Yeah, I mean you can get like personalized credit cards, whatever picture you want. Yeah, totally. And I've seen sports teams. I've just never seen like this
piece of art that was so neat. Okay, so I took a picture of it because I wanted to like keep this piece of art. It was so cool and why does I was taking the picture of it. She came back to the table, Oh yeah, okay, that looks so bad. Like now I think she thinks I was trying to like steal her credit card information or like, what did you say to her? I told her. I was like, no, I really liked the design, and she kind of kind of smild's card. Yeah did she I mean,
did she tell you to delete the photo? I would have yeah, pins, but she like also kind of clammed up and grabbed her card immediately and put her back and her wallet and You're like, no, just sign this. I just want to see what your signature looks, like, yeah, what's your birthday? So I feel so dumb because then the rest of the night, you know, like we kind
of wrapped things up there and said good night. You know, we kind of gave each other a hug, but it was like kind of an awkward hug, and yeah, I lost momentum. Yeah, and it was going so well, guys, despite the wine mix up, it was going so well. So I just I feel dumb, guys, and I just don't know how to talk to her and get her back because she goes to me. So I mean, you do come across for sure as a credit card THEEF. Yeah, yeah, I hope not. But I understand like why she would
have thought that. I mean, I hope not. I have a new TV. But well, let's see what Alicia has to say. We're gonna play a song, we'll come back, we'll call her, and we'll try and get you your second date update. All right, thanks, guys, I appreciate it. All right. Well, if you're single trying to find love, you can treat every date like a learning experience. Okay, yes, you know, you kind of figure out what to do
and what not to do in the dating world. And one of our listeners, TJ, definitely learned a lot of things you shouldn't do when he went out with a woman named Alicia. Like he learned, do not spit your wine back into the glass when the server offers you a taste. Also, don't take a photo of your date's credit card because you think the design on the fronts
cool some things you think people would already know. Yeah, yeah, But the important thing is he's going to take these life lessons, chew him up, digest them unlike his wine, and then maybe turn it into another date. Okay, that's good. That's a that's quite the cycle. That's that's how you learn. But TJ, Okay, if it doesn't work out, you know, it's all right. That's the whole idea behind the website Plenty of Fish is that there's plenty of other fish
for you to learn from. Eventually you're bound to snag one of the pesky fish, maybe one of the dumb ones. You're saying, it's a numbers game. Yeah, so you don't give up. Maybe a throwback, but you can always keep it there. You go fair enough. That's good to know. Okay, I don't think he feels much better now, TJ. I actually have a lot of faith in this one because I can totally understand, like she met you on Plenty of Fish. You're taking pictures of her credit card. Why
she's not calling back. But I'll vouch for you that you're a stand up guy and you weren't committing credit card fraud. Yeah, I appreciate that because I wasn't. Okay, I don't know. I just trust him. He sounds like a nice guy. TJJ doesn't even know how to taste wine correctly. I think he's not sophisticated enough to pull off some big scheme. All right, I just say she's not wrong, guys, She's really not wrong. So I like TJ,
me too, believe brother. Okay, TJ, let's try and get you a second date, and I'm gonna call Alicia and we'll see what she hasked to say. You ready? I absolutely am. Thanks guys. All right, let's dial the number right now here we go? Hello, Hi, can I speak to Alicia? Please don't shake Hi Alicia. My name's Jeffrey from the radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Uh, how did you get this number? We're just going through the phone book dialing everybody's numbers, saying what's up? There's
still a phone book listing of cell phone numbers? Oh well you have to pay for it. Ye. The real reason I'm calling is we're doing something called a second date update. Have you ever heard of that before? Um? I've heard people talk about it, but I don't know. I didn't know this real thing. Yeah, it's real, and now you're on one. So congrat how about that serious? Hilarious? Yeah, yeah that's right. Is that cool with you, Alicia? I mean I guess sure, all right that I'll take that.
Yeah that works, that's that's an affirmative. So the reason why we're calling you is because a guy emailed us hoping to get a hold of you. His name is TJ. Oh Oh no, not the fish you were hoping for, not really, I mean, oh no, he called you guys. Yeah, I mean he told us all about your day, and we spoke with him a little bit. He sounds like a really nice guy. I mean, he go, right, that's such a bad review. I don't know how to explain this. I'm caught off guard. I'm sorry. I mean, so TJ did.
When we spoke to him. He told us about some of the awkward things that happened during your day, Like he told us about spitting wine back into his glass when he was going to taste it. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't sure if he was trying to be funny or not. I mean it was then I realized that she didn't know what was going on. But it was kind of like cute, right, Like it's one of those moments you're like, oh, you're just dorky, it's cute. Yeah. It was more like, all you're so dumb and not. Okay. Yeah,
he said he had a few of those moments. Because he also told us about at the end of the night when he was taking a picture of your credit card and he said that he wasn't trying to like steal your information off of it. He was just really impressed by the design on the front of the card. Oh oh my god. All right, So that preaked me out initially, and it's thought didn't cross my mind that he was trying to steal information because I could easily
identify him and get him for that. But what really drove me nuts was like, so for a dessert he had ordered, like it was a decadent like peanut butter browning dessart, and he was like handling his phone and he had touched my credit card and his fingers were just so filthy. It was like toddler sticky fingers. Wait, what, you didn't think that he was? Like I thought for sure you weren't calling him back because he looked like some credit card scammer. But you were just grossed out
by him a little bit. Yeah, like a lot of bit. Oh, because he had sticky fingers and he touched your credit card with him, that's it. Why Now it wasn't just sticky like he had peanut butter like on his nail, like, it was just yeah, well that you mentioned it, Oh my god. I mean I could see where that moment would be. I mean, I see how it would be sort of disgusting. But you think that you don't have a future with him romantically because he has sticky fingers
after eating a delicious treat. It's just it was embarrassing. But I mean there was like another issue that I had with him, So, like after our date, I went on Facebook to look him up. I was very tread by his messy eating. But I noticed that we had a mutual friend, so I messaged her and after she had did she know TJ? Like did she go out to day with him? And then that girl ended up messenger Jamie on Messenger and that TJ basically has a
littering problem. Littering. Did you see literally like throw garbage on the ground littering? Yeah, And I'm like one of those people. I'm like, I find that very disrespectful and I'm not cool with that. Basically, she had mentioned that they had gone out on a date to Chick fil A. Okay, so he definitely stepped up the class with your date though,
so compliment, I guess. But after he had finished eating, they were in the car and he just kind of like chucked the whole bag of garbage out the window. I was like, who's tabbling on people for literate? But that was like a moment, like we were talking about behaviors that you can change and can't change. You can't change a litterer, that's for sure. All was the whole bag of something out the window? Are you sure? I mean, maybe this is like hearsay. You know, it's like this
person knew this person knew that knew this person. Like what if it's even just a different TJ altogether or something. That's a good point. So let's ask TJ directly, TJ, are you a litterer? So this is the problem with getting suck in high for so high Alicia. So, Alicia, I should probably tell you that TJ has been on the other line listening and you heard everything that she's said.
Did I forget to mention that, Yeah, you did. I know exactly what you're talking about, and let me clarify, because that again, that's the problem with second hand telephone. You know, people just just say things. There was a giant cockroach on the floor of her car, and I had to use the bag to kill it, but it was climbing up on the bag, so I grew it out the window because I just I freaked out. So, Alicia, what do you think in here? Are you skeptical or
do you believe him? I mean, is that a real story? Like why would you even go and handle a cockroach? I mean, either fact, how can you can catch it? What are the odds you're in a car and you see a cockroach? It's never happened once in my life. And then second that it happens to climb on while you're thriving. It depends on the state of the inside. Listen. He didn't know that he was going to have to defend himself in this story, Alicia, and he came up
immediately with this response. I mean, either he's an incredible liar or that that is just the truth. That's I know, it doesn't make me sound like the manliest man, but not the most hygienic person either. Like earlier, we learned that you're a messy eater who doesn't care about getting those nasty peanut butter fingers on your phone. How could you not see that that would be a huge turn off on a day. I don't know why. I don't know why, and I bet he's the type of person
that likes to lick the butter off. It's definitely under his fingernail beds. Yeah. Well, actually not anymore because he already sucked it all out. Okay, I mean, Alicia, would you have gone out with him again if you hadn't heard the litter story? I don't know. I feel like maybe to go to finishing school or something, TJ. I don't think Alicia is trying to be mean. She's just trying to help you out so you don't do this again in the future. Ye Frankly, she's not who I
thought she was. And honestly, I don't mean to insult you, but you're being a negative Nancy right now that I don't know. I told you that the aggressive TJ was coming out earlier. He means business. Honestly, I think you're being quite judgmental, and I thought we had a nice time. And if if you're this nitpicky and judgmental, I don't know if I want a second date down the loss. Is he a little more attractive when he does that? Or you roll in your eyes right now? I mean,
I'm fine with that choice. That makes it here for you to say no, no, well no, you guys can't do that because I have to ask you if you guys would like to go out on another date first, we'll pay for it. I think I'm gonna have to pass you, guys. I'm sorry. I'm happy with this. Guys, I'm gonna have to pass two. Well, I'm sorry, TJ. No second date, you know what, I'm fine with that. Guys.
There's plenty of fish, like you told me earlier, or plenty of cockroaches, depending on what website you want to try. Two point five
