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Oh for sure. And we recently got a message from one woman who says she had two dinners in one. So I mean either she got ditched in the middle of it, or maybe she's a competitive eater, or she's just a hungry girl, Jeffrey, and that is okay, Well, let's find out which one it is. Her name's Kayla out, Kayla Hill. Guy, I can't wait to hear a first dinner or second dinner was better. Well, let's just say
I think you got it right. I mean, I'm a hungry girl for lots of different things, which is different than a thirst girl. It is sore and thirsty. But yeah, okay, So tell us about the guy that you want to call today. What's his name? Okay, yeah, so his name is Lucas and we met on an app and I'll
just be totally honest, I thought he was really hot. Well, I mean that's kind of like the basis of all apps, right, I mean, yeah, yeah, But I mean we chatted on the app for a little bit before agreeing to meet up, and he seems really cool. Um. He told me how much he was just really into like playing guitar, and he likes to go rock climbing and things like that, and I'm not necessarily into those things, but I would
definitely like to climb him. I was like, anyway I can get him on a date, it would be great. Is that what you guys did when you went out? Well? No, So we actually went to dinner and it was just a terrible experience. He picked the restaurant, and honestly, the food was awful, the drinks were bad, the service was horrible. So I've actually been cooking a lot recently, and I will say I make some pretty amazing food, and in my head, I was just like, you know what, this
is such a terrible experience. I think we should just leave, and I wanted to take him back to my place and cook him like a really nice it is unless he loved that restaurant. He's the one that picked it. Did he agree with you? I think he was a little shock and taking it back that I kind of was like, you know what, luck could just leave, but he didn't think like, well this is weird. And honestly, I totally made it worth it because he loved the
dinner that I made him. What was it? I did, like this Moroccan style chicken tijeen type this like cook cous with look just like run home and whip that up real quick. Wife's material, broa wife material. I love you lacking food? Oh my god, let me pull out my te gene. I mean, honestly, it's really not that hard. I make it all the time. It's one of my favorite things. And he was really wowed by it. And I'm wow, just you saying it. I don't even know how to but I don't know what happened, but I
was actually turned down that night, turned down? How down? For what? Turned down? I'm asking the question because it begged to be asked right there. I mean, I was kind of expecting and sort of hoping that we would get down and dirty, and she turned me down. And it was so mortifying because I was kind of like making it very clear that that was going to be sort of the next step. Okay, wait, walk us through that moment real quick, like what did you say? What
did he say? What? I mean, I think that's true for most women. Yeah, you're right, this play out. I mean, yeah, it got down to the end of the night and I said, you know, I was gonna get into my pj's, but it was not something a little more fifty than that. Yeah, And I kind of said, like, well, you want to send the night, right, like if you want to send the night, and then he just said no, and he just abruptly kind of left like that, leaving me like I felt so uncomfortable, And let me tell you, I
not to do my own word or anything. But I've never been turned out like that. Yeah, and a lot of I mean a lot of people in general don't feel comfortable staying over on the first night. I mean, you don't know, maybe he just got out of a big relationship, a disease, Okay, I mean, I honestly can't figure it out. I can't figure out why I wore my hottest dress the whole night and then I changed into some neg day And I mean, I don't know what it could be. I don't know if he didn't
like the cooking, which I can't really imagine. That's kind of what I'm thinking, is that Moroccan chicken. I've never had it before, but it sounds like something that would be really spicy and kind of heavy. And if he's not used to that, maybe he was having a weird reaction and didn't feel safe spending the night. You know. Yeah, but has he called you at all? No, it's been radio silent. It's really bad. Yeah, I mean, I think
there's something else going on there. I mean, maybe you came across and I don't mean I think that you sound like a confident woman, but maybe you came across as like two braggadocious or like, yeah, I just wanted us to have a good time. That was really where I was coming from, you know, I just I don't know if there was another girl. I don't know, he didn't like my apartment, Like, was there something in my apartment that he saw? You know, men in their interior design.
I do love though, how like women who aren't used to being rejected, they just go through every possible so they're like you not like this, and you know like this, how's that possible? So let's you know what we're gonna do. Let's play a song, come back, call Lucas for you, and then we'll try and get you a second date. Update. Okay, okay,
I'm very curious. How curious? Okay, hold on if you're just tuning in for the second eight update, we're on the phone with Kayla and Kayla it's pretty much the unicorn. You know, she's very attractive, she cooks incredible food, she loves guys with guitars. Yeah, well, I mean that makes her no different than any other ye She's down to do stuff on the first night. I mean, she's the perfect woman. It sounds like every other woman out there, But I like that. I think what kind of idiot
would turn that down? Apparently a guy named Lucas would, because that's good, Jeffrey, you're in her corner. I am. I'm trying to figure out why, because after Kayla cooked him some homemade Moroccan chicken and slipped into some Negla Jane and invited him to stay the night. Lucas apparently looked at her and said, no, thanks. I'm Kayla. I feel for you here, but look, we have a whole text board filled with dude and even some women who would love to take you out. If this doesn't work,
well that would be nice. But I am really curious what he has to say. And I mean, I didn't really get a sense. Are you really excited about Lucas or are you just kind of pissed that he turned you down? Oh? No, I had a great time with him, and I honestly, if I didn't, I probably would have just left the restaurant right then and there, you know what I mean. All Right, Okay, well, let's call this moron and say, okay, I'm sorry. Let's call this a nice person and see what he has to say for himself.
All right, you're ready to do this, Kayla, Yeah, let's do it. Okay, here we go. Hello. Hi, can I speak to Lucas please? Lucas. Hey, Lucas, my name's Jeffrey from the radio show Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. Do you have a something to talk? Well, what is this about? This is about a segment we do called the second date update. Have you ever heard of that before? Yes? Okay, that's a good start. Yeah, awesome, Hi Lucas, that's Brooke. Hi, Hi Hi. I mean that was the only thing I
had to I thought you had more. No, you can move on. I thought you were going to explain what a second date update was. So the way a second date update works, you obviously know. But if you go out with someone and afterwards, if they're not calling you back, you can email our show and we'll try and figure out the reason why. So do you know who I might be calling about? I think so. I have an idea, okay, but I don't know. Why don't you show me in?
All right? Well, the woman that emailed us. Her name is Kayla. Oh okay, Rocking Chicken Kayla. Yes, it's a horrible nickname. It is. It's very sexy. Is it is that the woman that you were thinking? Um, I wasn't sure. Actually, hey, okay, Oh, he's a man that plays guitar. You know, he has a lot of options on dating apps. Absolutely, So here's the deal. Kayla told us about your date and going out to the restaurant, and then she made some chicken for you at her place. And she said that the
night kind of ended on a strange note. Uh, I guess you could say that, well, she's she's not sure what went wrong and why you wouldn't want to end up staying the night with her, which is totally fine if you felt like that was too fast on a first date. Like, no judgment here, I think that that this is going to judge you, but definitely a little bit of judgment. But maybe there's a good explanation. I mean, I mean, it was a it was a weird night. We went out to eat and Kila didn't really like
the food, and uh, is that the problem? Is it because you felt like less than a man because she didn't like the restaurant? What? That was a big Jeffrey, I'm just trying to read on at all. I was cool with leaving, you know, the food was kind of whack, and she ended up taking me to their place and making this like amazing meal. You know. Uh yeah, she she said she was a good cook, and you love the food, right, Yeah, she's an amazing cook. She was great.
It's that's not how It's just I don't know, it's kind of weird, but well, she's really confused Lucas because, like you said, she felt like everything was going really really well up until the very end of the night, and she can't figure out the reason why you would turn her down. Here's the thing. I'm hanging out at her place and on the wall, she's got all these pictures with like John Mayer. She's gotten like fangirl photos
on the wall like a poster. These aren't like photos were like she's at a show and she got like a selfie with him or something. You know, Like she's like in a room with John Mayer hanging out, you know, and I know John Mayer's reputation, you know, like it doesn't exactly like pick up dog, more of a cap I don't know that we'd do, Zach. But yeah, he's good with the ladies, is what you're saying. He's good
with the ladies. And I'm just saying, if you're in a room with John Mayer, like it's probably gone down, so who cares. But you've never had I mean, even if that is true, Like why would that matter. I mean, if her bar is John Mayer high, I mean that's terrifying. So you're saying, if she if she would have been hanging out with like Chad Kroger from Nickelback. You would have been fine with that, but you feel insecure because it's John Mayer. Hey, you know what, I could deal
with Chad. You could deal with Chad, Okay, but that's on you, man. She obviously was interested in you. She cooked for you, she changed into lingerie for you. Like, can't you see that? Those are your own securities? Insecurity insecurities, those are the ones. Yeah, but I mean, you know, it doesn't change the way that I felt, and my entire body will just kind of like not a wonderland
anic mode, not in wonderland, right. I could see this, to be honest, if I knew a girl hooked up with like Tom Brady, I'd be like, like like, I'm barely throwing football. Let I'm not rich. I would have been like, yeah, now, okay, you don't want to get what John Mayer's had. Well, we're speculating a lot here. We don't even know if anything actually went down with John Mayer. So you know what, Lucas, why don't we just pull her up and ask her because I need to tell you she's on the other
line listening and wants to talk to you. What what are you talking about. That's how the second date works. She's been on the other line. I thought you've heard these Yeah, okay, yeah she's there man, Kayla, Oh yeah, Hi am I am I on yep? Yeah, hey okay, this is this Hi Lucas, hi. Um. This is the last thing I would have ever thought. I'm sorry that you got so weirded out by that picture. I mean, it's kind of old, it's been there for a little bit.
I didn't even think about it, honestly. Wait, Kayla, is that a picture of your ex John Mayer? I mean no, no, no, no, you guys weren't official, but didn't think no happen. I was supposed to believe you're in a room with John Mayer and like you guys didn't do dirty. I mean, so that's nobody's concerned right now. Yes, you shouldn't even be worrying about it. I am on a date with you, and it doesn't even matter at that point. You know, did he like play guitar for you too? Did he
do like a one on one thing for you? I don't even know if I want to answer that. I don't even think you seem like really in your feelings about this, like, I don't want to Yeah, I don't want to depress you in even more. I mean, that's the thing, Kayla, Like Lucas, these aren't questions you actually want the answer to. If you're already feeling this way right right, that's kind of what I'm feeling. Like did he have really soft hands? Ye? Good? Yes? Is he working?
Is he working with a six string guitar or a twelve string? Maybe he's got a ukulele and he's just really good with it. You know, Sometimes it's about the music that the instrument makes, not necessarily the instrument itself. Okay, am I right? Klein? Yes, but I also don't think that assumptions need to be made here. But yes, okay, lookies, are you hearing her? She is saying you're enough, You're awesome. She likes you like you know what. Actually, I don't
really know if I think that anymore. It seems like he's already moved on and really insecure about himself in a way. And I didn't I don't know. I didn't give him any of that impression. And honestly, a real man would have just said something to me right then and there instead of ghosting me like he did when he doesn't even know the situation, and it's just making an assumption. Yet a real man like John Mayer would have said that you would have known the gravity of
this situation. I that song, I say, I did a good song. I mean I think Lucas needs to take some time to maybe instead of putting time into dates, maybe has some more guitar lessons, because he really seems very insecure about his guitar playing. I guess okay, I mean she's right, but like also, like, dude, you're didn't even you didn't ask me, You just made an assumption. Right, You're in a room with John Mayer. It didn't look like anybody was around, Like I know you slept with him.
Just admit it. Get you know what, I'm not saying anything about what Johnny and I did or didn't do John here that I think, Well, hold on, hold on, we need to ask Lucas would you like to go out on one more date with Kayla? No, you know, please don't ask him, please, I think I'm done. Yeah, my answer like I got the answer, And for what it's worth, I'm not taking that picture down, all right. Not everybody has Johnny's Confidence or Johnny's Guitar moving ninety two point five
