Second Date Update PODCAST: Engagement Factory

that are handcrafted by the bartender. Place where the chef comes out and greets you and talks about the food. You know, very classy places like that. And that's exactly what Mark did on his first date. His email said, they took her to the cheesecake Factory. Shut up, good work. It's hard to get a reservation there, Mark, How did you do it? It wasn't easy, but I had some

connections there. Yeah. Man, slide the host one hundred dollar bill and they give you a seat right next to the window where you can watch people carry their bags from them all. That's right, that's right. It's very quick. Yeah, I know. So why did you decide on the cheesecake factory? Well, we were on different sides of town, and we're trying to figure out someplace that was between us that we

could meet at, and it was just really convenient. Girl, you like my high mashed potatoes to so many mashed potatoes. I'm the one making fun of him for taking the cheesecake factory, yet I know menu items from there. How bad is that? Is that really a specific venue? It does? It is my high mashed potatoes and it's delicious. That's actually the truth. They do it. I don't know how you know that, but yet I may have been there

a time or two. Going into this first date, you guys both felt like you had honestly represented yourself before you met in person. Yeah, I mean she looked like her picture, which was good because I've definitely had bad experiences in the past with that whole thing, like the little angling of the picture thing, so you only see the face and then she's got the body of like Andrea the Giant. People are very good at taking pictures to make themselves look way better than they actually look

in person, that's for sure. That's defolutely right. Yeah, but that was not the case with her. She actually looked like the picture. She's very pretty, all right, that's exciting and was she cool? I mean, obviously you want to get a second date with her, so she had to be cool, But like, what'd you like about her so much? She was really funny. Actually we did a lot of laughing, and you know, I like a good sense of humor

absolutely is something that's essential to me. And she was really fun And before I knew it, you know, the dinner was over. Yeah, that'll happen. Sometimes you go to a place and you're like, all right, this is gonna be like a two hour dinner. Hopefully we can talk for a while and you're like thirty minutes and you're like, that was that was quick? So now what do we do?

So how did you end everything at the restaurant? Then? Well, when it ended, you know, I wanted to spend some more time with her, and since we were already the mall, I just suggested we walk around the mall and you know, talk for a little while. Hey, I gotta pick up some I gotta pick up some new undis and socks. You want to roll with me to the Partner store real quick? No, No, we didn't do that. We just kind of we walked around. Was she was she cool?

At that. Yeah. Well, I mean it was cool in the beginning, but then it did get a little weird at one point. How so, well, there was a sort of a lull in the conversation and we happened to be passing by a jewelry store, and I, in my mind that had this impulsive idea of why don't I just take her into this jewelry store and do something really crazy? You know? So I followed that impulse and, uh, buy her jewelry on your first date? No, no, I didn't buy her anything, but I did suggest that we

try on some rings. What are you kidding me? Are you crazy? No? I don't know. I know it sounds bad, but I didn't. I wasn't thinking of it like that. I think it would be a fun thing, you know that. What was her reaction when you walk by the jewelry store and you're like, hey, why don't we go in there and trying some engagement rings? Well, she sort of laughed uncomfortably, but she said yes because but at the time I thought this because she was into it, But

she said yes to it. You guys actually went and sized yourself for engagement rings. Well, I mean, she didn't technically say yes to it. But but I you know, I said it would be fun, and I kind of drag her in. Oh, I would be out the door in a heart beat. How long were you in the store for? I don't know, like half an hour? Did she did she okay? After the weirdness of it? Did she seem to be enjoying herself? Um? Well, that's the way I wanted to see it in retrospect. Maybe not.

Did you realize how weird that could come off when you were doing it? No? I mean, you know, we I kept saying, dre, you know, we're just pretending. And I was saying that the whole time, for pretend, you know, just for fun. My heart starts beating faster just walking by engagement rings when I was single? Is that all you did? I mean? Did the date end after that? Yeah?

Pretty much it was. We sort of walked out of them all after that and watched her to her a car, and I gave her a little tech on the cheek and a hug, you know, And I thought I did my best, And I hope that she realized that. How many times have you tried to get ahold of her? Since you guys went out I've called her, maybe I don't know, two or three times. It's always gone straight to voicemail. But I've texted her five times and she responded to the first one. She hasn't responded since. Okay,

I just want to clarify something. So you know, what you did was strange to do on a first date. You know now looking back now that she's hasn't responded to me, and it might have been a little weird for her. All right, Well, we'll play a song, come back, call her and get your second date update. All right, great, all right, hang on brooking jubile in the morning if you're just tuning in for the second date update. Mark is on the phone with us. He wants to call

a girl named Christina. Today. They met online, went out on a date. Then Mark made the very sane decision of taking her into a ring store to do some engagement ring shopping on a first date, doesn't it. Yeah? According to Mark, he knew that what he did was kind of weird, but in the moment it sounded like a fun thing, like, Hey, let's just go in here and check out some engagement rings. And now she's not calling him back, all right, Mark you're about ready to

give her a call. Yeah, let's I think the mistake you made was you didn't go all the way with it, you know. Oh what you should have done is while you were in the store, purchased a ring without her knowing, and then when you walked her back to your car, got down on one knee and said, I want to spend the rest of my life with you, Christina. I think it's bad enough with it what I did. Please don't make it worse. But by not proposing, Yeah, it is bad. You should have proposed go all the way

with it. Don't do it. Don't half asset mark. All right, Well, I'm about to doll the phone number and get her on the phone and find out what went wrong on your dates, even though we already know probably what went wrong. Hello, Hi, can I speak to Christina please? This is Hers. Hey Christina, how are you? This is Jewil from Brook and Jewil in the Morning. Sorry, who did you say you were? Whoop business? It's a radio show, a morning show. I

didn't catch that Whoop business again. It's Brooke and Jewil in the Morning. It's a morning radio program. You can hear it in your car on the way to work and stuff. Okay, you clearly don't listen, right, Are you still talking about the radio thing? Yes? I am here. Let me explain for a second. All right, we host a morning radio show. One of our listeners actually emailed us to try to get you on the phone. His name is Mark, and you recently went out on a

date with Mark. Yeah. I'm not calling him back, we know that. Yeah, that's the whole reason that he emailed us. He said, Hey, I met this really cool girl named Christina. We went out on a day and had fun, but now she won't respond to my phone calls. Can you talk to us for a second about your date with Mark? Not really, I'm pretty busy. I promise this won't take up much of your time. I just really, all I want to ask you about is him taking you to the jewelry store on a first date to look at

engagement rings. Oh man, you wow? He told you about that? Yes he did, and he actually admits that he knows that was kind of an awkward move. Yeah, awkward is an understatement. Oh. I would have freaked out if I were you. Honestly, it was just such a strange suggestion, you know, I just thought he was kidding. Yeah, And why did you go along with it? I mean I didn't want to see mean, he did seem like a nice guy. It just seems like a very strange thing

to request. Okay, so that's why you're not calling him back because he took you engagement ring shopping on a first date. I mean, yeah, there's a little more to the story, but that's basically the main reason. Yeah, what's the more. Well, he pulled me in. I thought I seemed apprehensive enough, but he like seemed very excited to go in. And while we were there, I got the feeling that this spur of the moment or deal wasn't as spur of the moment as he was trying to

make it seem. What do you mean by that? I felt like he planned it. One of the girls when we came in called him by his name. Shut up. They knew his first name, like, welcome to the store. Yeah, they were like, hi, Mark, good to see you, Like this is his first date. Move While we were looking at a lot of jewelry, and when he went to the other side of the store, I leaned in and I asked the woman, I'm like, hey, how do you know him, and she said to me, yeah, he's been

in here a few times, like with other girls. I didn't get to ask because he was on his way back. But was she given me like the look like you need to get out, like w this is weird or he's just shopping by himself. And she didn't seem to think anything was abnormal neither one. It just it was weird that she even said that he had been in there a few times. Yeah, hey, does he have a lot of jewelry? I mean maybe a shopping for himself.

I didn't notice too much jewelry. Okay, so he's not like a dude with like big watches and pinky rings everywhere? Like yeah, no, No, did you ask him about it? Did you ask him like, hey, have you been here before? I didn't know how to, and I just figured this was his go to date kind of thing. And I kept thinking, like, why why would you want to bring a girl engagement ring shopping on your first date? How could that be your go to move? How could that

be your first instinct? I don't get it. Don't you want to ask him about that? I would love to ask him if that's his move. No, I'd rather let it go. Well, I can't let it go, Christina, And we're gonna have to ask him because he's actually on the other line listening right now. Are you are you serious? Yeah? Mark, go ahead and say hi, Okay, let me explain. All right, And it sounds really bad, but there's an explanation. I swear it's not what you think. So this isn't Yeah,

what's the explanation. This isn't your first date move, Mark, it's not my first date move. I swear with with you, Christina, that was an impulsive move. That is not my go to move the girl first. Same, She says, you've been in there a few times. Explain that I understand. I understand. Um, I have been in there a few times. I've been in there with other girls. But but what I have I've been in there with two other girls. But no, let me explain. It's it's legitimate. I was actually engaged

to both of them. What you've been engaged twice in the recent past. Yes, I was engaged twice and uh, and both times we went to that sort of shop for ring Why would you ever go in there? Then? Mark heard, you know, I don't know, but what I

think probably happened. Is that, you know, I was nervous because there was a law in the conversation and it was a familiar place, and I thought, well, this could be fun, you know, we this could be you know, at some place that I that I had some good memories in and maybe when you want and the sales lady knew your name, didn't you know, Like, oh my god, this is the biggest mistake I've ever made. We need to leave immediately. I didn't even hear her say that.

I I mean, obviously she said it because Christina heard it, but but I didn't. I swear, I didn't even hear her say that. I didn't know she knew my name. So have you been married before? Like what You've just been engaged twice? Was that recently? It was the last one? Yes, was was fairly recent before I met you online. It was before I met you online. But but yes, I

never got married though, and we never never happened. I mean, it was both the engagements ended and uh, you know, um, but it was never you know, I never lied to you or held it back from you when we were talking online. It just never came up. I guess that's true. And you take me to the same exact store that

you got their rings. You thought that was okay. I was getting nervous because there was a lot in the conversation and I just pulled you in there because I wanted to shake things up a little bit and get things going. And I realized it wasn't a great choice in retrospect, But I swear like there was no There was a million other things we could have done at the mall because for engagement rings, million other things, you had a lot of options. Mark, But we were in

front of that store when we were that's true. But you could have walked three feet to another store or up to the food court and got some frozen yogurt. There's there's a lot of stuff you could have done. I know, I mean, I know, I realized it was it was stupid. I wasn't thinking, but that's what I did. And you know, I have no I you know it was stupid. Are you sure, Mark? Are you sure you're ready to be dating right now? Yeah? Yes, I am sure.

And I'd like to go on another day with Christina? Okay, cool? Let me ask her then, Christina, would you like to go out with Mark again? I will pay for a second date. I mean, my gut is telling me no. Oh, you know what everybody says, don't listen to your gut. Yeah, I think it's the opposite, right, Yeah, I don't know. I don't think so my gut, my gut tells me no, it's not no. I mean, I just I can't. It was all really strange. I told too many people about

that story. I can't go out with that dude. Now, yeah, you're sure you have the you have the opportunity to be Mark's next ex fiance. Come on, man, don't don't say it like that. It makes me look it makes me sound like a weird though. I mean, all I did is take a girl into a ring shop on the first dag. Just say what you said again and tell me that's not weird. Broken Jupil in the morning.