Second Date Update PODCAST: Deep No Phobia

how are you hey good? How are you guys felling? I'm all right. Thank you for your email. I appreciate it. Yeah, I love you guys, love the show. Thanks. Now, before we get into the weird excuse that this guy gave you, where'd you meet him? Well, I actually met him at my job. I know you're may be not supposed to do that, but um I look at a veterinary office and he's human rights human Okay, you were scaring me.

As soon as he said veterinary office, I was like, wait a second, we might not be able to do this second date up dates. We will and it'll be really interesting. No, he was wearing his dog and you guys, okay, and did you hit on him? Well, I wouldn't say I hit on him. We were both kind of flirty right away, and I definitely was attracted to him, but he had asked me for my phone number when he left for a guy, supposedly ditching you on your first

date and making up some excuse. You don't sound very pissed. Well, I'm just really confused because I totally think he lied to get out of our date. Yeah, after I read your email, I agree with you, really I do. Why don't you just tell everybody what he said to you to get out of your date because it sounds ridiculous. Well, let me tell you, guys what happened. So he asked me to go out with him to dinner, and I was excited, and he came to my place to pick

me up. And now, at the time, my roommate she likes to have people over a lot, and so she was kind of having like a get together, and there are a bunch of people there and they're my friends too, and I want to see him, like interact with my friends and see how he is around other people. So

he came to my place. He was cool for like five ten minutes, and then after like fifteen or twenty minutes, he started getting really panicky and like really awkward, and then he said he needed to speak to me outside. And you guys were still at your apartment at this point, exactly, Yeah, And there was like a bunch of people there. So we go outside in the hallway and he's like, I have to go right now, and I'm like why, And he's like, I have dipnophobia? Is what? Deep no phobia?

Deep no phobia. Yeah, he said it's like a phobia or paranoia of dinner parties. What I told you it was ridiculous. He told her that he has a fear of dinner parties and had to leave every boyfriend or guy could ever. Yeah, I have a fear of dinner parties too. I didn't know there was a clinical term for it. Oh my gosh, what did you see to him? I was like what. I was so confused. I didn't even know like what to say. And I was like, are we going to go out to dinner? We can

just leave now. He's like, no, I have to go. I have to go home. I have to decompress from this. I've got to go out of anxiety and I have to leave, but I'll totally you know, text you or call you and we'll go another night. And I was like, okay, And I thought he was really that was really strange, and I thought he actually made up that condition, but Eila cooled it. I guess it is a real thing, but I don't know if he has it. But either way, it's just like super weird and confusing, and I think

he's lying. And did he know that all those people were going to be over there when he came over? Did he know that it was a dinner party? Well, it wasn't even like a formal dinner party. It was just my friend had like a bunch of friends over Okay, And no, I didn't mention it to him because it wasn't like we were staying for the whole night. We were going to go out to dinner. He just picked me up. I don't know, I just it seemed so

far fetched me deep nophobia. I don't know, it sounds ridiculous, but I was just wondering if it looked like he was acting like he was scared of the dinner party. I don't know if scared, but he did seem like awkward and anxious. He hasn't called you right to reschedule. He has not. Maybe he's got a fear of the telephone. A lot of people have multiple fears. I mean. The thing is is, i'd actually believe his deep nephobia if he actually called you afterwards and been like, hey, I'm sorry,

can we redo this? Yeah? But now nothing at all? Nothing, And I don't even know if I want a second date with him. I just want to know what happens, you know what I mean, Like, why would you be so like going out with me and then suddenly you have some like made up conditions. I wonder if that's like his go to to get out of things, you know, because how do you even know that deep nophobia is a thing unless you have it? But it also doesn't

sound like he has it. Yeah, what did you say to your friends when you walked back in with no date? I was so embarrassed. I was like, um, yeah, he said he wasn't feeling well and had to leave, And they were just like, oh, you didn't tell him that you brought over some psycho who says he has a fear of dinner parties. No, I left that part out. I don't want to freak them out. And how many times have you tried to get a hold of him

since your date? I have not called him out at all. Okay, now, all right, cool, Well we'll play a song, come back, call him and get your second date update. Okay, I hopefully he doesn't have a theater ring cone answer the phone, frooking jubil in the morning. An abnormal fear of dining and dinner conversation amongst large parties of people. That is deep no phobia. If you're just tuning in for the second date update, Meredith is on the phone and she

wants to call a guy named Chris. Chris got out of his first date with her by saying that he had deep no phobia and he could no longer continue to hang out. And then he just took off in a crowd of dust and she has not heard from him since, and we all think it's pretty much a lie. We're about to call him and find out if he was lying about that. Meredith, you're ready, I guess so. Yeah.

And if it turns out that this is legit and he really has this true phobia, do you even want to go out with a guy that you can't take to group parties. I'm not sure, but I just think it's totally lying. So I want to I just want him to, you know, tell the truth. Yeah. Why would he come up with deep no phobia to get out of your date? It sounds too crazy that it's real

to me. Really, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, well I've never heard of it before until we did this second date update, So it seems like something that's pretty far fetched. To be able to drop deep no phobia on a whim, it's pretty impressive. I'm gonna die the phone of it right now and get him on the phone and find out why he had to make up a disorder and to get out of a date with you. God, that sounds horrible. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to say it like that. Meredith. Okay,

all right, here we go. I can speak to Chris please. This is Chris. Who's calling? This is Jewbil from Brook and Jewel in the Morning. How are you who? Jebil from brook and Jewil in the Morning, the radio show radio show. Yes, it's a morning radio show. What are you calling about? I'm calling you because you recently went out with one of our listeners and they emailed me and asked if I get you on the phone and

ask you a few questions. Her name is Meredith. Okay, well, Meredith emailed me and talked about your date a little bit, and she said that you had to leave early and you haven't gotten in touch with her since, and she was kind of wondering why she actually said that. Yeah, she told us about your date. She said that she met you at the vet clinic she works at. You were bringing in your dog, and she thought you were really cute, thought you were cool and was really looking

forward to going to dinner with you. But when you showed up at the house, you kind of were there for a minute and then told her you had to leave. Yeah, it was just a strange situation. Okay. She did mention that you told her you had deep no phobia, a fear of dinner parties. I can't believe she told you all that. Yeah, we talked to her for a little while about your date. Then. I'll be honest, from my perspective, it sounds like you made that up to get out

of a date. Is that true? You know it's it's a condition, So you are deep no phobic. Is that the right way to Yeah sounds good. Yeah, it's a real thing. It's a real thing and you have it, or you just know it's a real thing and you use it to get out of dates. No, it's a real thing. Yeah, but you're not answering the question. Do you have deep no phobia for real? Or did you just make that up for an excuse to get out of your date? Like, if you're lying, it's cool. I'm

not gonna judge you for it. Just tell us. Um, okay fine, uh yeah, I so I just needed I needed to get out of there. How did you How did you know? How did you know deep no phobias? Like? How did you choose that? Of all things? Well, I was super uncomfortable there, and I pulled up my phone. I googled phobia and like I was looking for a social phobia. Literally, that was the first one on the list. I'm pissed at you right now because I gave you the benet foot of the doubt and now he just

turns out you're a big liar. Smart No, I'm not lying. It's a real thing. It's a fear of dinner conversation. Yeah, that's not a liar part you lied to Meredith, though you lied to the girl that you went out with, telling her that you had this. Why would you need to do that? Well, I would say she wasn't completely forthright with me. I'll just put it that way. So

she lied to you about something. Yeah, we were supposed to hang out, right, okay, like her and I. Yeah, it was just it turns out that was not what happened. Weren't you guys supposed to meet up at her place and then go to dinner by yourself. That's what she told us. That's what she led me to believe. But once I got there, I could see there was something else on her mind. And I'm not that kind of

a person. Really, what are you talking about? Were you just you were upset because she was giving other people attention in a party or something. No, I'm just not into group sex. What wait? What did you say? Dude? You're not into what? I don't do that. I've never done that. Why do you she was wanting to have group sex with you? Because there was some girlfriends over at her apartment. It was pretty clear if you were there, you would have seen and really it was like really blatant.

There were girls giving each other backrubs and shipping wine and being really touchy feely with me in a way, like touching my forearm, Like okay, some conversation. So you feel like she catfished you into having a group thing with her and a bunch of friends. Yeah, And I'm just not the war g type of guy. I just needed to get out of there. I'm more traditional. Are you sure that you aren't reading into things a little too much? And like she didn't just have some friends

who were hanging out. It became abundantly clear, like one thing after the other, and like I was getting these looks and came over and was like, Oh, I'm so glad you're here. Have you seen the tour yet? Have you checked out the bedroom? It's like, what you are jumping to conclusion sounds like a normal evening with girls. You're saying that a girl touched your forearm and asked if you'd toured the house, and suddenly that to you means group sex. Well, it was multiple touches on the forearms,

and and I've got to say she wasn't the only one. God, And I mean they kind of looked like corn stars are completely insane. I knew he was a liar, but I didn't know he was like a creeper and a weirdo and completely delusional. Hey, Chris, that's Meredith. She's actually on the other line listening. What the hell is going on? Meredith was listening to that whole conversation and apparently doesn't agree with you that she was about to have a huge orgie with you and her friends. Give a very

vivid imagination, Chris, and you're delusional. It was just me and my friends hanging out. You know, if it was me, I would probably want to deny it publicly as well. So, Meredith, did you hear the picture that he painted? Yes, I knew he was a liar. I didn't know he was like completely deranged. Thank you, because I've never heard anything like this. So you weren't inviting out, You weren't inviting him over for some kind of ambush group sex party.

Absolutely not. Well, what was all the touching about. I mean, your friend asked me to tour the bedroom like I've never seen a bedroom before. I know what that means. I'm not an idiot. I wasn't born yesterday. Oh my god, Chris. It is very normal for people to give you a tour of their apartment the first time you're there. And I don't appreciate you calling me and my friends porno stars or whatever you said. That's really rude. My friends

were all nice girls. Oh I can tell they're super, super nice, and if I stayed, they would have been even nicer. Oh gosh, Mereth, did you do that he was such an idiot? Would you agree? I have no idea. You guys might think I'm an idiot and sam crazy, but I just call it like I see it. And that was a pre orgy meeting, a pre orgy meeting. I didn't even know those existed. Yeah, Chris, for somebody who doesn't seems to not like orgies, you seem to know a lot about him. I could smell it as

soon as I walked through the door. All right, Well, I do have to ask the question, Chris, would you like to go out with Meredith again on a second date? We will pay for it. No, it is not my team, but I am sure that you can find somebody who's going to suit your knees and participate in all that freaky sex partner stuff. Well, there you go, Meredith. They'll still hope for you and your friends, broken jewel. In the morning, she'll be the death of me Al