Second Date Update PODCAST: Always Kiss on the First Date

eighties or a four year old. So I figured I was assuming you're not dating like young children, I hope, And so I was guessing that you're dating somebody who's you know, getting on in years. Is that true? No? So your date was your age? Yeah? I know. You know, we did a chocolate tour at CEO when I was dating my husband, and look how it turned out. Yeah, it turned out the only people I know that still actually read a newspaper. In other words, you're not dating

ninety year olds, are you? Nicholas? No, No, I'm not all right. Well, tell us a little bit about the girl that you want us to call today. We already know that you took her on a tour of a chocolate factory. It was that fun. We had a great time. We met when we were volunteering at a charity event. Oh that's cool. Yeah, And you know I don't do it all the time, but with the holidays coming up, I thought it was a nice thing to do. That was volunteering at our senior citizen Yeah, yeah, charity event,

get cleaning up bed pans. You know, so you guys met at a charity event. Did you ask her out the same day that you met her? Or yeah? I did. You know, She's really energetic and she made the event a lot more fun, so I thought, well, I'd like to kind of more time with thirst. I just asked her and she said yeah, okay. So you asked her out and you guys went to the chocolate factory. What

was your main selling point there? Well, before we win, I read that chocolate was an approdisiact, So it was not that I was going to get in fresh or anything. But you didn't actually tell her that, did you? Yeah? Please know, what do you think? Yeah? What do you I got a great date. We're gonna go to the chocolate factory because I heard chocolate makes people horny. Yeah, we want to go there. Yeah, that's a great pickup line. Okay, So so you kept the afrodisiac part to yourself, but

she seemed to enjoy yourself at the chocolate factory. Yeah, I would be like, saw the process and at the end they let you tamplow the chocolate spitter there, and it seemed like she was having a great time, and I could see us hanging out more. Okay, And then when we walked out of to her car when we were leaving, I made a pretty bold move. And that might be why she's not calling me back. What did you do? Did the tour excite you like you thought

it would have, you actually not showing her excited. No. When we were walking out, I grabbed her hand, I spun her around and kissed her and she seemed shocked by that. But I said, I have a rule that I always kissed on the first date, but only if the girl's worth it, and you're worth it. Nice line, lame, you know, and it makes you sound like you kiss every girl on the first date but only if she's worth it. I don't. I really don't. To me. It sounds the opposite that you don't kiss every girl on

the first date. I guess you know what your line would have worked on me, my target audience. Hey, well, maybe you're dating the wrong kind of people. So you spun her around, you kissed her, and you gave her that line. And did she react in a positive way or did she seem annoyed by that? Well? I asked her if we can hang out again, and she said, yeah, okay, I'm really excited by it. What kind of kiss was this? Was this like a pet type of kiss? Or was this full on like last in a couple of seconds.

It was a big romantic kiss. It was like a movie kiss. I wanted her remember it so I can get a second date out of it. Okay, and she agreed to hang out again. How long has it been since you heard from her? Then, Well, I've texted her and I emailed her of it. It's been three days. You said, you may think that you maybe went too far with a kiss. Did she act like flustered, you know, giggly? What was her attitude afterwards? But she was just giggree She was blushing a little bit. But it didn't seem

you know, they didn't seem not normal. Yeah, I think she didn't like it. She wouldn't have told you that you guys would be going out again. She probably would have called the cops on you right then and there, harassing her. So she obviously wasn't that thrown off by your kiss. What do you think it is? Then? Why do you think she doesn't want to call you back?

Maybe she didn't like to chocolates. I don't know. She doesn't any known chocolate allergy that you're aware of, right, I mean, that's the only thing I can think of. She's been in the hospital for a week's train. All right, Well, we'll play a song, come back, call her, get her on the phone, and get your second date update. Okay, awesome thing. All right? And by the way, I'm still head over heels about that line. Use it all you want.

I want you to use it on me, Nick, if the second day doesn't work out for you, all right, hang on looking jubil in the morning. Se All right, Nick, here we go. You're ready to call Rachel and see why she isn't getting back to you. Yeah, I am. You know what I was thinking about it, And your whole dating experience proves to me that you just cannot please any woman out there. Okay, either you don't kiss him on a first date and they think that you're a puss, right, or you do kiss him on a

first date and they think that you're too forward. That's why Nick, I don't even think we should do the second date. I think you need to start dating dudes and me and you need to go out. Hey, that line that he had on her, really it worked with me. Man, What do you think Let's just blow this whole second date thing off and you and I go out. Yeah, I'm not feeling it. Man, all right, Well now I'm led down. If you're just tuning in for the second date.

Up date, Nick wants us to call that girl named Rachel. They went to a chocolate factory, had a tour, enjoyed themselves at the end of the date. Though, what he thinks might have gone wrong is he grabbed her while they were walking in the car, just turned her around and kissed her and used his little patented line on her. What's that line again, Nick? I have a rule that I always kiss on the first date, but only if she's worth it, But only if she's worth it, And

then you do the shooter hands at her you're worth it. Yeah, I just want to put I don't do that. Put that one out there. Okay, no, shoot, answer you just say it. Hey, he's texted her a couple of times, hasn't heard anything back. All right, man, I'm gonna doll the phone her right now. See if we can get her on the phone and find out if that's what you did wrong. Okay, thank you, Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, can I speak to Rachel please? Yeah? This is hey Rachel.

How are you. This is Jewil from brook and Jewil in the morning. How you doing? M fine? How are you? I'm good? Thank you for asking. I'm calling because you recently went out on a date with a listener of ours and he liked you a lot, but you haven't been returning any of his text messages or phone calls. So he emailed and asked if we could call you and find out if something went wrong on your date. Okay. His name is Nicholas. Yeah, I know Nicholas. You know Nicholas. Okay, Well,

we talked to Nick about your date. He told us that you went to the chocolate factory and all that good stuff, and he also says that he's been trying to get a hold of you, but you're not responding to anything. Is there a reason? Why are you just busy? Listen, I'm at work and I want to be really nice about this, so let me just say this. Nicholas seems like a really, really nice guy. And actually the chocolate

factory was a really lovely thing to do. But also about the time that we were there, he just kept saying stuff like, oh, my ex wife would never do this, and she would never enjoy it the way you've enjoyed it today, and that thing. And I he talked about his ex wife the whole time. No, no, no, yeah, pretty much like every every other thing that we did, he was like, oh, she would never have tried this.

You're so much Rachel, I know you're at work. Thank you very much for you know, yeah, talking to listen. He's not a bad guy. I just it was kind of weird and creepy that he kept bringing her up. I had an ex girlfriend like that, and one time we were at the drive through at Taco Bell and she's like this, Taco Bell reminds me of Greg And I was like, what why? So I understand exactly how

annoying that could be especially on a first date. Rachel, Okay, so when I talked to him again, you want me to let him know that, hey, maybe don't talk about your ex wife so much on a first date. Yeah. And then here's the other thing. And again, super nice guy.

But I got home like he dropped me off. It was very sweet, and within like minutes there was an email at this he stept me saying, oh my god, I had such a wonderful time, which is fine, but then he started to list like all these gift of things that he had already looked up that he wanted us to try and do together. So he was already planning the second date, He planned out the next six months and just went totally overboard with what he sent

me in the email. So he talked about his ex wife the whole time, and then he was a little too fast. I'm just like, hey man, we can do this and this and this and this, all things that my ex wife didn't want to do. We can do all that. That's what That's what he was likely. Yeah, and again I don't want him to feel like I'm trying to slight him or snub him. I just think that he needs still pull it back a little bit, not seemed quite so eager. He turned me off, Rachel.

I just don't want to go out with him again. Thank you, Rachel, appreciate you being honest with us. Yeah, and thank you for being honest with him too, because he's actually on the other line and heard everything that you just said. Are you serious? Yeah, he is serious. Yes I am. Hi, Rachel, Hi, we were talking about my ex wife that pop. Yeah, you really were. I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was, But honestly everything she wouldn't have done any of that, and I thought it was

so great. No, Nicolas, Okay, I understand what you're saying, but kind of by doing that, you're talking about her again. Maybe just explain to Rachel that you cannot talk about her in the future if Rachel wanted to give you another shot. Exactly. Yeah, No, I look, you're really really sweet. I just think maybe you need to talk to someone about whatever feelings you haven't resolved over your ox life. Just it can't be with me though, Nicholas. Is the

divorce recent? Is that why you're still so stuck on it? It was like fourteen months ago. I'm not stuck on it. Okay, it completely first day and you just brought it up a second ago. I feel like, Nicolas, maybe you're not ready to be dating. It's okay. I kind of agree with them, Nicholas. I think that maybe you need to

like pick some more time to get over this. Because anyone who talks about their x y s run an entire date and then sends an email to someone saying like there's three thousand things I want to do with you in the next two weeks, that is just kind of a bit much. Really, And I'm sorry you guys. I'm trying so hard not to be mean because he's a nice guy. I just really I don't want to go out with him again. Yeah, just stop saying you don't want to go out with me again, because I've

hurt like four times. I see, Nicholas, it's not really fun to hear about something over and over and over again. Yeah, but I don't think I was going over and over and over again. I don't recall that. And I didn't email you three thousand things. I email do three things with ten possible other things to do with those three things didn't work out. You're very organized, Nicholas. I'll give you that. I mean, I think that part's kind of sweet.

Can't you say he was just excited about seeing you again? In No, I just think it was a little bit too much, and I just I don't want to go out with you again. Sorry. I know, Rachel you've already answered my question, but I have to ask it anyway. Would you go out with Nicholas again? We will pay for a second try in a different language. I just wanted to make sure. Nick. Yeah, I think we've already covered the baches. We're all pretty sure that she doesn't

want to go out. I haven't heard it from her yet or have I not been paying attention to So no date and Rachel right, Nope, at least at least it wasn't the kiss they did. You know, Jubil wants to go on a dinner. Yeah, yeah, Jubil, you're free tomorrow. Send him thirty day possibilities and don't think about it. Broken Jubil in the morning.