Second data to date. You know, it might be the most important date of your entire life, but it's the first date after you get out of a long term relationship. Unda that's not important. It's just like we'll lead to the bedroom because that's on the way. I'm getting over out of it, you've been you know. Thing is if that date ends up being a bad one, you could end up swearing off romance forever. That's true. You're giving it one date after a breakup? Are you not patient?
It doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't even have to be good. You just hope it doesn't go horribly, horribly wrong and blow up in your face. But unfortunately, that's what happened to one of our listeners, Krista, And before she makes the decision to give up on men forever, she's reached out to us for a little bit of help. So Krista, first of all, welcome to the show. Hi. Hi, that is a heavy welcome. Christa. If you had such a bad date, why do you want to call this
guy back? Okay, well I have to explain though it's not really a bad date with this guy. Okay, give us the rundown. Tell us what happened. Okay, So I was in a two year relationship that's over. I'm newly single, Like I'm on apps, like a few apps. Yeah, so I matched with this guy on Tinder. His name's Paxton. We're like, okay, great, fine and name everybody. Everybody had an image in your head as soon as you said he was definitely a prom king Yeah. Yeah, no, I
could tell right away, like he's super douchey. Okay, is a good thing. No, he talked about himself the whole time, like, oh when he kept using the tree, keep going boy, oh god, oh god, how long did it last? How long were you on this date? For? It sounds terrible? I like it. Well, he was talking about like these hot women he's hooked up with. He's like, oh, but you're not like them. But that's a good thing, like the hot part or the hook up, the hot part.
Oh god, yeah, you're really like natural looking. What do you say to that? I just stared at them and I was like, what the you know? And then like he had some shots in front of him, like oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna went more drinks and then he goes more drinks, buddy or whatever. Did you know? Did you just leave? I mean, like, I'm not up for like ghosting somebody on a date, but this guy sounds terrible. Yeah, So what happened next? What he gets worse? I mean,
so I watch him go to the bar. He's hitting on this other girl. He's talking to the other girl and he's laughing. Love that. Yeah, he gets a wine, a white wine like it looks like what I'm drinking, and he hands it to that girl. What, oh my gosh your drink? Tell me you left at this point? Yeah? No, At that point, I'm like, well, do I leave or do I store a drink in his face? Like? How dramatic? Do I want to hear? Yeah? I want to be
here too for dramatic. What'd you go with? Well? I look over to him and he just gives me the shrug, like puts his hands in the air, like what am I gonna do? He's hot? Girlfriend. So I saw this other guy my hand to the bar and he's by himself, and I was like, all right, he's cute that a girl now, okay? Yeah, and I chucked that glass of wine. So I'm like feeling kind of loose or whatever. So what's his name Braxton, then I would have run out the door. His name was Luke, and it just sounds dumb.
I mean, it's the time. It was the best I could come up with. I just I like, is your night going as bad as mine? Right now? And you know, we kind of joked about that, and he was like, well not yet. Okay, I don't think it's a bad opener, you know. I mean, yeah, it's not the best opener, but you know what he responded to it. He puts some humor in and there was a connection and then like to like swoop in and save the day. Good hook comes from an other guy not being good, you know,
it's like, oh he sucks, let me show you. I don't. I don't think it's bad. You should be treated. So we're able to keep a connection going with Luke. Yeah, I mean we talked for a lot. Like I pointed out packs, like I pointed out the whole thing. He's like, yeah, when you're getting out there, you got to sort through the bad ones to get to the good ones. And
it was like some good advice. Like he just seemed like a genuine dude, you know, and I learned stuff about Like we had a conversation like he's a runner and his jobs in science fields, and I like cool science. It just sounds interesting, does he? To be honest, I didn't really get it, and so I was like, oh, science, But it was it sounded great. It's definitely up great from the douchebag that Yeah, did he I mean, did
he reveal that he was single? It seemed like it. Well, he said he was there to meet a friend and his friend couldn't make it, you know, and it hid plenty of time, you know, when you go like, oh, yeah, I'm just out, my girlfriend's out with her friend's night, he had plenty of chances to like, yeah, throw that in. Yeah.
But if he liked you and he was flirting with you, even if he didn't have any intention of doing anything, like man also like the you know, totally totally even if even if he has a girlfriend, he's like, well, I'm not going to do anything, so I'll just let her continue to say. Yeah, so that's how'd you wrap things up with Luke? Well, okay, so I'm the one to suggests. I was like, we should hang out again, and he took my phone, he put his number in
my phone. Okay, Yeah, so I tested a couple of times. He didn't respond, but like maybe it wasn't tracked to me, Like maybe he thinks I'm desperate because I went from one guy to like hanging out with him or whatever. But I didn't like him, or he has a girlfriend. It's possible. I guess we're gonna find out. We will. Okay, let's play a song, we'll come back, we'll call Luke for you, and we'll try and get you your second date update. All right, boy, okay, we'll be all right
after this. Hold on second date if you're just joining us for the second date update. One of our listeners, Christa, called for help. She just got out of a two year relationship and the first guy she meets off tender turned out to be a real winner, and by winner, I mean gold medal in the Douche Olympics, the Olympic game. I'm gonna spare you the details of it, but basically, this guy, Paxton ended up hitting on another woman in
front of Christa and even handed that other woman her drink. Yeah, so Christa decided to get back at him by talking to a different guy who was sitting alone at the bar. I mean also because she didn't want to waste her good makeup and hair everything. I don't think it was about Paxton at all. I saw an opportunity and she took it. Jeffrey, that's right. So she met this new guy, Luke.
They had a great conversation, according to her, but now after exchanging phone numbers, Luke is not responding to any of her texts. Krista, did I miss anything there? No, I mean, that's convey it's depressing when you say it, though, I don't know. I think we should look at it the other way. I think you're going to be just fine in the dating world. I think Luke's gonna have a girlfriend. That's what I think. But that's not on you. That's how the dating world is. Yeah, it doesn't mean
we still can't. Yeah, and then we'll have a silver medalist Luke. But let's find out for sure. Okay, we're gonna call Luke's number and see what he has to say. You're ready to do this, Christa, Yeah, okay, all right, here we go. Hello. Hi, is this Luke speaking? Who's this? My name's jeff from the radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. Okay, Okay, yep, I was hoping for a bigger response thing you always always Jeff. Oh my god, Jeff Jeffrey. I mean, Jeff is such a famous name.
I really need to lower my expectations anyway, Luke. So we're from the radio show Broken Jeffrey in the Morning, and we're doing something called a second date update. Have you ever heard of that before? H I haven't. That's okay, the rest of us have low expectations, So, Jeffrey. The way that it works is if one of our listeners goes out on a date, and afterwards, if they're not calling them back, you can email our show and we'll help you get back in touch with your date to
figure out the reason why they've been ghosting. Gotcha, Okay, and you didn't actually technically go on a date date, but yeah, so it falls in the gray area. But recently you met a woman who really liked you, and her name's Krista. Oh Christa. Yeah, she was super sweet. Oh yeah, that is a positive response, Luke. I mean, yeah, normally we don't get those types of responses. Maybe two percent of the time they'll say something really happy and uploking. Yeah.
The rest of it's like people are dry heaving, yeah, the other edge. So we're off to a really good start with this phone call already. So you liked Krista super sweet girl? Yeah? Absolutely, she said super sweet twice. That's fine, Yeah, that's okay. So obviously Christa's confused because, according to her, she's been trying to reach you after you, guys hung out and you have not been responding. Yeah.
I just I just think maybe it's not going to work out between us, Like I don't know, I'm just not sure, you know, So I didn't want to kind lead her off? Is that because you're in a relationship, Luke? You know, I'm dating here and there, but nothing really clusive right now? Are you one of those people that just keep thinking like suffing better is going to come along? Like Brook, That's just what you think all the time. I think a lot of people feel that way. And
what's going on, Luke, Well, you've clearly spoken her. What did she tell you, guys? I mean she said that she was at the bar on a date with a different guy. It was like her first date out of a two year relationship, right, and it didn't go well, and so she went over and ended up sitting down next to you and even told you about the guy and the horrible date that she was just on. And you were very supportive and very nice and had a
great conversation. You were super sweet. Yeah, and she says that you gave her your number and you guys were talking about hanging out again. It seemed like there was chemistry from her description. Is that not true? That's all true. But here's what happened after she left. Okay, okay, that guy that she was when Paxton came over, Oh no, came over to you. He came over to me, started talking to me, and at first he was super confrontational and he was just like stuff with that. Why are
you talking to her? I hate this guy so much. What's he's saying? What's up? Boy? Are you talking to her? Boy said to use boy a lot, that a lot? Okay, I mean the guy was literally hitting on another woman during their first dage. Yeah, she had mentioned that, but Paxton also mentioned that christ was kind of frosty and cold towards him. Okay, so he's blaming her. Yeah, I wonder why she was frosty and cold. Yeah, exactly, so. But I was able to talk him down, you know.
He calmed down, and then the more we talked. It's gonna sound strange, but like we actually ended up becoming friends. He's actually kind of cool. He's really supportive, Like he told me to just go for the things that I want to go for. I don't really have a lot of like cool guy friends like that. So you and Paxton ended up bonding and now the two of you are friends. Yeah. In fact, he's actually texted me a few times to even hang out this week, and I
was like, of course, man, like we've been bonding. Wow, we've been bonding. So you you can't date her because
you're dating the why can't you also go out with her? Well, so when Christa got in touch with me, she was just ragging on him, and like, yeah, I get that she had a really bad experience with them, but I just thought, like, if I was dating her, she would not be happy that mom buds with the guy that she had such a bad experience with it, you know, And if I had to choose, I'm already friends with him now we've been talking so much, But you're like
assuming what she would feel, you know, Like any guy that you date always has at least one or two super doe, you know, like you're well, you're right. Let's not assume how she would feel. Let's just ask Christa directly, because I need to let you know, Luke, she on the other line listening and she wants to talk to you. You could have told me that's in the beginning. Oh sorry, I'm not very good at this. Chris, are you there? Yeah, I know I'm here. I'm definitely here. Um, I didn't
know you were on the line. Didn't tell me that. I just hadn't responded because I figured you wouldn't be happier the light of it, like, you know, me being budged with Texan now and that, honestly, like the main reason I hadn't gotten back to you. I thought you were really pretty through super kind. You can stop talking right now, Like you're friends with that guy. You became friends with that guy? Well, he was really nice to me. He was nice to what are you a puppy dogs?
And when is nice to you and you like them automatically, Like that's not why the world works, that's just not how Oh my god, I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you, but we just rode out together. I'm supposed to be mean to people were nice to me, Chris. I mean, this is what happens in the guy world. Nothing is more powerful than the bro connection. It trumps everything else. And if you have to choose between the bro connection and the girl connection, you're going with the guy.
I have to say, in all honesty, there are guys out there that are the coolest dude, super nice, bro to bro. But then you hear how they treat girls, and you're like what You're like, how you cheat on people? I mean, but that's it. That's the same in the world of women like I have. I have girlfriends who are amazing girlfriends and I'm sure you do too, Chris, that are or psycho in a relationship, you know, like friends like Alexis maybe the psycho friend I'm talking about
that she's great with me. But why does that affect you? Why are you upset about their bromance? You know what, I probably wouldn't have been. But now that it's his reason for not calling me back, if you're not texting me like, it's almost like he's like, oh, I have to choose. And so it wasn't dramatic until he made it dramatic. And now obviously. It's the thing. Honestly, Like, if you're cool with me being passed and his friends,
I would love to say. But if you're not, then you know, I just didn't want to send you the wrong message and I didn't want to be the bad guy in this. So like, if you're cool with it, I would love to go out. Okay, So, Luke, you're still interested in dating Chris da If she's cool with you and Paxton being bros being boys? Yeah, well you know, maybe I just think she might have read him wrong that night. Maybe the three of us if we hung out,
it might be kind of fun. No, no, no, no, wait you want me to hang out with you and that bad Oh yeah, this could this actually could be the perfect opportunity for me right here. I don't know that that was an excited voice. I think really because she's there was a lot of energy in it. Luke, I would love to send you, Christa and Paxton out on a date and we'll pay for it. I wouldn't on a date with just you. But why do we? Why is this guy? What is happenings happening? It's really cool.
After a few shots, that guy's even more fun than he was like in the beginning, that's a good side of someone you want to hang out in. Yeah, Christy, you just gotta take a few Yeager bombs and you're gonna love them. I don't want to go on a date. Okay, Well, I guess we'll have to change all our plans. But maybe there's a way that we can just get you and Luke to go out just the two of you. Luke,
is that okay? That would be fine with me. I just want to be upfront that, like Paxston is now a friend, and you know, if I'm giving an ultimatum, someday, I'm gonna have to go with my friend. Okay, Okay, that's a red flags. We'll get that put down on paper and notorize to make sure that it's legal. But Christa, what do you say? One more date with just Luke? I don't even understand what's like? This whole thing has been so weird. Yeah, but I don't really have anything
else going on right now. Yeah, Okay, boy, it's a successful second date. Update. You are not going to regret it. Christa, I'm so much more fun ever since I met Paxton. You're gonna love it. You can just stop, just stop, just stop, just stop. Broke and Jeffrey in the morning