Second Date Update: Come Back Later

are you totally mystified? Um? I think there could be a few things, Okay, okay, So we'll start at the beginning. When she arrived early for the date. How early is early? Yeah? She was at least fifteen minutes early. Okay, so that's not too early, bro, I thought you're talking about an hour. Was the date hanging out at your house or was she just meeting you there and you guys were going

somewhere exactly? We were meeting there and then going out. Okay, okay, but you would still plan for her to be come up to your apartment or whatever? Right? I don't know. I always run late, so I hate people that are early. So what did you say would you tell her when she got there? I just said it, like, hey, I'm sorry, I'm not ready. Do you mind coming back in a little bit, coming back, Why don't you just say I'll be right down, give me five. Honestly, I wasn't really

thinking it, just it just came out of my mouth. Okay, that is so you shut the door on her? No thanks? Do you have an appointment? Yeah? Wait? What did she say to this? To me, it sounded kind of like she didn't know what to say, but she'd stay. Okay. Yeah, this is an interesting strategy. Keep the girl waiting before the date even starts. I don't make her in a really good mood. Yeah, it's not even waiting but sending her home. So was it like fifteen minutes later you

go then started your date or what? Yeah? She came back actually probably like a half hour later, which was you know. Honestly, that was fine with me because I didn't need a little bit more time. Can I just say, what were you doing? Just had like a bunch of I had to do before I got act. Don't ask a man what he was doing? Oh sorry, Jack, we don't know, We have no idea. Why are you asking all these questions just let us be. So what did

you end up doing for the actual date? Harlow? So we had talked before about how much we like breakfast food, and I knew a little cafe down the street that served breakfast. Okay, win, that's a great date idea. Yeah. Yeah, So we're walking and she's quiet, we're not talking. I wasn't sure if obviously she could have been upset for the weight, or if she was just angry. I guess is what you would say. They're not starting things off very well. Did pancakes and bacon fix anything? Well? It

was still like awkwardly quiet. So I tried to break the ice by talking about bad dates, like a history of that. Like, I see, he's trying to make her remember other worst dates than this one so that this one comes off looking good. You know, I actually don't think it's bad, Like self deprecating humor could be really funny. It's right, it's all about delivery. So he's like, hey, at least I didn't stab you like some other dates. Right, Yeah, I made the last date wait too. Wow, Yeah, it's

all about delivery. So yeah, this sounds really fun. Did she laugh? Yeah, she laughed, at my story? What was your story? This one time I went out with this girl and when I met up with her, she was just like, I just want you to know that my dad's in the mafia, so you better treat me right now. Oh wow, God. Do you think she was telling the truth or was she just trying to scare you into a good date. Well, the next day there was a

horse's head in my bad. Okay, you're fun right, And it's good too, because like you're admitting, like I understand that things are not going the way I want them to, like, and that's a good thing to do. Yeah, all a woman wants us to admit that you're wrong sometimes. What

was her story? She said something about like a date that she had with this guy where they were going to go to a concert, and when she got there, the guy he had a girlfriend that he invited, and then I guess the guy to make matters worse, he asked the two of them to kick Yeah, look at the guy from the room. Yeah, I thought you guys were supposed to be talking about bad days dates. It sounds like you're getting things back on track on this date. Maybe. Yeah,

you know, it was good to kind of relate. I think, you know, I know obviously first dates are usually awkward. Anyways, and we got to talking, but then the food came out and it was kind of bad timing because the food is so good that you just you didn't want to talk all you want to do eat scar Yeah. Plus she waited a really long time because of you. Yeah, she started. Okay, so how did this date end? So we finished eating and after the check came out and all that, I asked her if she wanted to just

come back in my place? Oh, like right then, yeah, like even longer, just to keep the date going, keep the awkward silence alive. Hey, do you want to come back to my house to just not talk? Yeah? Say, that's really funny, he's charming. Well, she actually said she already had plans. Yeah, who makes plans after a date? Well, to be fair, he was thirty minutes later than it was supposed to be starting, so after two hours together.

And sometimes you always make plans after a date. That way, one you can cut it off when it's like leave them wanting more type situation, or if it's bad, you have an excuse to get out totally. I always leave the night open because I know I'm getting I know to the woman. Yeah actually, yeah, makes sense though. All right, so she turns you down for that? Did you end it with a kiss, a hug, anything, just like a normal friendly hug? Okay? Okay, well that's good. That's okay.

At least you didn't completely normally. That wouldn't be great at the end of the day. But you guys came a long way to get there, all right. So let's play a song. We are a little bit early here, so you're gonna have to wait for minutes. But then we'll come back and we'll call Dina and try and get your second date update. Okay, perfect, all right? Hold on, hey, Harlow. Yeah, look, I know I said i'd come back after the song to do your second date update, but I'm not quite

ready yet. Oh all right, I need a little extra time. Can you just hold please? Okay, Jeffrey, we don't we don't have time for this. Okay, I know it's funny, busy, Okay, just hold on, God justly like looking at I just got a prep Just give me a second. You're all right, We're back for your second date update. Arlow. Was I worth the wait? I could totally relate to not being ready. So the only man in the room that understands what

Jeffrey just went through. Just to recap, Arlow started his date on the wrong foot, we think, because the girl showed up to his place fifteen minutes early and he told her come back later. He was busy, so thirty minutes went by, and then the girl came back. They ended up having some awkward silence on the walk to the restaurant, talked about bad dates from their past, and then had a pretty quiet meal too. So he's not getting a call back, and we're going to try and

help him figure out why. Yeah, that would be great. I'm trying to figure it out myself. Yeah, I mean, I just think this one boils down to a bad first impression. Maybe she got home, she started thinking out of the date, and like that, stuff just kept popping in her mind. I also think, if we can get you a second date, Arlo, the best advice I could give you would be to be fifteen minutes late to

even out this whole conundrum. Up early because she was early. Okay, please do not follow Jose's math, you know, just show up on time. Okay, there we go. Let's move forward, all right? Are you ready to do this? Harlow? Yeah, okay, I'm gonna call Dina right now and get your second date update. Actually, you know what, can just wait one more second? Hold? Please? Oh my god, sorry I had to readjust there. Okay, here we go, let's do your second date update. Hello. Hi, I'm looking for Dina. This

is Tina. Hey Dina. My name is Jeffrey from the radio show Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. How are you doing. Um, I'm okay, okay, it's good. That's good. That's a good start, Dina. Hi, we're hoping you have a second to chat with us a little bit. Sorry, what is it for. It's for a segment that we do on our show called a second date Update. That's where if you go out with someone and afterwards, if that person isn't calling you back, you can email us and we'll reach out to them for you to try

and help you figure out the reason why. Oh great, Um, yeah, I really liked your response. It's more fun than it sounds, I promised, Dna. I mean, and it does mean that someone really liked you, so that's always a positive. You know, they're going the extra mile to try to see you again. Yeah, that's fine, Fine, that's fine. Okay, Well, can I tell you a little bit about the guy who emailed us. His name's Arlow? Oh okay, you not oh Rlow. It's a name. There were you hoping for somebody else? I

was hoping not to have to talk about Harlow? Okay, okay. Well, Harlow emailed us in told us all about the day that you guys spent together, and he had a lot of nice things to say about you. And now he's a little bit confused about why you're not reaching out to him. I mean, I'm surprised he's confused. I think it's kind of obvious. I mean, he told us that maybe he didn't make the best first impression, and there was some awkward silence and stuff in the beginning of

the date. Is that all he said? No, he told us that you showed up fifteen minutes early, and he asked you if you could come back a little bit later. Did he tell you why? He said he was busy. I'm surprised that you came back because that is such a weird request. Instead of just saying, hey, can you wait five minutes, I'll be down in a minute. Yeah. If he had said that, it probably would have been better,

but he just made it so weird. How So I got there early and I came back with a half hour later, and when we actually met up and started talking, he was like, yeah, sorry about that. I just had to do what guys do. What does that mean? I hope it doesn't mean what I'm thinking it means video games. My mind was either pooping, yeah, or something else in the bathroom. Oh, a different type of preparation before I date. I see what you're saying. Yeah, And so I was like, well,

I'm just gonna hope it was pooping. Yeah, It's not a good time when that's your best option exactly. Maybe he was nervous and like foot and mouth type of moment, right, I mean maybe, But my immediate reaction I was just like pooping and he was like, oh no, not that he did. He say it in that same tone, that one yeah, yeahand that tone is so creepy. Yeah it is, it is. I mean, where do you even go from there? At a conversation, like you literally have just met someone.

In the first five minutes, you're finding out a lot. You're like, yeah, that's why the conversation was so awkward and there was so much silence, Like, I didn't know what to say after that. It's a hard jumping off point for the conversation. What do you turn it too? So you like bacon for dinner? Yeah? Wow? So are you saying? From that moment on it just ruined it for you? And the day never got better. Um. At

the end, it got a little better. We started having fun talking about a bad date path Okay, like, yeah, I went out what this guy named Arlo one? Yeah awkward. Well I mean at least that's a good sign and maybe things were getting back on track. Um. Yeah, But then it came time to pay the bill and he asked if I wanted to go back to his place, which I think personally it's just kind of creepy on a first date period, but it's the way he did it. He said, So I think I'm recovered from earlier. You

want to go back to my place? No anything? But what a charmer? Oh no, wonder you said no? I mean I didn't even say no. I just knew I was never going to see him again. Yeah don't. I mean, honestly, I don't even know why he called us if it sounds like he was just looking for a hook up that night, I don't know. I mean, look, Dina, maybe you'll never see him again, but you will have to hear him again because I need to tell you. He's been on the other line listening and he wants to

talk to you. He heard this. Yeah, he needed to hear it. This is a good lesson. Okay, Harlow, you there, I'm here. I love What are you doing? Don't on the phone. I just mean, like Harlo, explain yourself, is what we're trying to say. So no one in the studio. So you really did you actually told her or at least hinted at her what you were doing. I mean she asked. You know, I wasn't gonna lie to her. You know, you don't have to lie. You just don't

bring up that specific activity. Could have just said I was busy. I was though, I was really busy. Okay, we get it, man, Dina. Are you even still there? Yeah, I'm here, and he's not making it better. So, I mean, Harlow, I think you need to try saying something to Dina to get her to see you're not a horrible person. Well, you know what I mean, Like, you're not some weirdo that that's telling girls what you're doing all the time. Yeah, you know, listen, I'm a normal guy that does normal

kind things and I do normal guy things often. But okay, stop stop saying normal guy things a million times. I'm also a normal guy bro, just so you know. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. I know too much. It's not just the beginning of the day, it's how you ended it too, telling her you recovered, Like, what is that? In my defense, she already knew what I did before I already told her. Yeah. Yeah, so she's probably wondering if I'm ready to go, and yeah I was. I

don't know, Dina, were you wondering that? Is that the thought you had is that what was going through your mind wasn't what was on my mind at all? Oh? What was on your mind, Dina? Not that? Yeah? Shocking that. It really feels like you guys are all piling on me right now, and it doesn't feel fair at all. I mean, this is what guys do. It's normal. It's I was just answering her question and trying to just be cool. We're not saying we're not saying the action

wasn't normal. Okay, we're saying that the discussion was too much. Here it is and now I have images of things piling on top of each other. This is not good. We need to end this stuff. Yeah, and let me just ask Dina, would you like to go out on another date with Arlo? Will pay for it? Yes? No? Yeah, Arla, man, you just go hang up, go do what guys do. Maybe you feel a little bit better think about us. No, please don't, no, no, please don't. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning