2nd Date Update PODCAST: What Lies Beneath

that's her situation. What's up, Kristin? How are you? Hey? I'm good. How are you guys doing? Oh you sound so chipper. Well I'm okay, but I'm actually a little bit sad because here i am I'm having to do a second update. All right, so good. Your email said that you never actually met him in person and never went on a date. So tell us a little bit about the guy you want to call today. Well, his name is Thomas. We met online and we were talking for about a month. That's a long time. It is

a very long time. I mean, first of all, I have to tell you that he just looked so handsome and even on the phone, like the tone of his voice. It just seemed like a gentleman, you know, and we just had like a really dip connection. Can I ask why you guys didn't meet up in that whole month long period of chatting. We never were able to think our schedules and so we try, but something always will

come up, especially with his job. But I did have to tell you guys that it just went to the fund that we said I love you what oh way? I mean, it was this that deep of a connection. Who was the one to drop that first? You were him? He did, but I set it back. I want to be happy for you, but I'm having all sorts of red flags, like as he asked you for money is my first thought, because it feels like he's setting you up to take advantage of you for some reason. He's

a gentleman, you know. We talked a lot about our life is and where we were in our lives, and we both really want a relationship and something serious. Okay, So you, I mean you definitely liked him a lot then loved him. Yeah. Well, I know it sounds stupid to say I love you to somebody before you meet them, but you know, once you say it. It's just it's out there, you know. Yeah, And in the moment, it just felt right, And so did you guys ever try

to meet up. We finally got to have the date and we were going to have dinner at this restaurant and I show up and he never shows up. Oh my gosh, how long did you wait before you realize he wasn't showing up? I was there for about forty five minutes, and I was texting him, and then finally he got back to me, and he said that he went to another restaurant that had the same name, but it wasn't a different town. What he missed him the town location. Okay, I mean, at one point, are you

not going to believe this guy? He's either catfishing you. I could honestly see how that's happened. Only one time has it happened to me. But it's happened anything. It's possibleriing, That's why I was thinking in my mind. But I also I was a little skeptical about it. So why didn't he just say wait there, I'll be right there Because he was too far. It was already too late. I've been there for forty five minutes. For an hour.

So what do you do next? I try to look on Golo with their restaurant on another city and I couldn't find it. Seems like he lied to you then, Yeah, I was very heartbroken. Did you ask him about it? I did ask him about it? And now he doesn't want to get back to me, Like, he doesn't text me back, so I've not even had any contact with him. Oh my gosh, I just don't like this guy. Aren't

you mad too? I'm mad and I'm sad. I go from being mad and sad to be mad and bad because I just had You know, when you are dating online, you need too many people, and I want to really ship. I want somebody who I'm going to be settled with that love me, that I love fat, that you know we can make this happen. And then at this point, I think you should just strive for showing up to dinner. Yeah yeah, baby steps until you get to all that. I know. I don't know what are you wanting from

this guy, Thomas right? Like, what do you want from him now? You actually want to go out with him again? Or you just want to tell him off? I want to hear his explanation first, before I decide if I'm gonna tell him off, because I really want to know what happened. I mean, he went from saying I love you and having this amazing connection to leaving me hanging and telling me a possible lie. So I just want an answer. Okay, Well, we'll play a song and then

come back and call him and get your second day update. Okay, okay, all right, looking jubil in the morning. Second update if you're just tuning in for today's second day update. Kristen is on the phone and she wants to call a dude named Thomas. The thing is, they've never actually met in person, and they haven't gone out on a date. They met online. They talked for about a month, things got serious, serious enough to the point where they actually

said I love you to each other. And then they set up a dinner date and Thomas never showed and his excuse was that he went to the same restaurant but in a different town, so we didn't have time to meet her. Then she googled if that restaurant was in that town and no, so it certainly seems like he's lying, all right, Kristen, Before we make the phone call, I do have maybe some news that might be kind of disturbing to you? Okay, what, well, I am actually Thomas.

Oh my god, I set this whole thing up to meet you during a second date up date. Yeah, yeah, pretty impressive. Weird. Oh my god, you guys my heart to throb. What are you doing? Seriously, because right now Thomas could be anyone. Do you still buy his story that he's who he says he is. I don't even know anymore. I'm so confused. It's just I really want it to be I really do. I mean, I just hope he's not lying to you and that there is,

like you said, some reasonable explanation. Yeah. I want to find now for sure so I can move on with my life. Okay, cool. I'm gonna dial his phone of it right now then and see if we can get your answer. Here we go, Hello, Hi, can I speak to Thomas? Uh No, this is not Tom, This isn't Thomas, this is Glenn. Can I ask his calling? Yeah? My name is Jewbil. I'm calling from brook and Jewil in the morning. It's a radio show. Okay, Hi, Hi, I was looking to speak with a Thomas h Yeah. No, okay,

Well you said your name was Glenn. Yep, it is okay. Well, Glenn, let me ask you a question. Did you start kind of an online relationship with a girl named Kristen a little while ago? Sorry? What is this about? I knew it. I wasn't an answer my question, Glenn, Yeah, exactly, Glenn. Um. Well, the reason that I'm asking you, Glenn, is because Kristen emailed us because we do a segment on our show

called the Second Date Update. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then they end up not calling you back after, you can email us and hopefully find out why. And she told us a little bit about meeting a dude named Thomas online and talking to him for over a month. Things got very heated, to the point where Thomas and her were saying I love you, and then there was supposed to be a

dinner date and that never happened. But strangely, the phone over that she gave me for Thomas is for you, and your name's Glenn. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, sorry, I was confused. I am Thomas. Yeah, Glen, we know that you're lying. Just come out with it. Why are you leading women on and telling them I love you on dating naps and toying with their emotions. That really hurts people. I know it sounds like that. No, no, no, let me ex Flinn. So, Thomas is my middle name,

and I go by Glenn sometimes in Thomas sometimes. Okay, So you're admitting that you're you're the person that she was talking Yeah, yeah, no, I know Christian Yeah yeah. Wait wait the Christen that you were supposed to meet at the restaurant where you said you were in a restaurant in a different city. But then when she looked up that restaurant in the different city that didn't exist. Wow, you know a lot about me. Yeah, I did try

to meet her, Okay. I mean it's kind of weird how honest you're being, because normally when people catfish somebody online, they would try to deny it. While it's kind of complicated, I guess you could call it a catfish, but it's not like that. Okay, Well then can you can you try to explain it please? So I so, actually I've met Kristen before. What better before? You mean like you had seen her picture on the same dating app or something,

well that, but also I've met her in person. She just doesn't know that I'm who I say I am or who she's been talking to you. What. Wow, that cuts off as not only like catfishing and like an a whole move, but creepy. You sound creepy. No no, no, no, no, it's not prepy a. It wasn't expecting to talk about this right now. So I actually live in her building. You guys live in the same building. Yeah, it does not,

as I didn't move into like stock her. I live in the apartment underneath her, and I really like her, and I'm just really nervous to talk to her. Okay, no one brought up Stocking. You're the only person that jumped to that conclusion, which is also a red flag. No, you guys are accusing me, and it just it's making me sound like I'm crazy, but I'm not. I really like Kristin and this whole situation is weird. I'm I'm not accusing you anything. I'm just trying to figure out

what you're doing if it's not catfishing. Like I said, she lives in the unit above me, and I really like her. She's really cool and really pretty, and I'm just a kind of a nervous guy. So I thought I'd make this profile off to get to know her and then you know, meet her or talk to her in person with this information I have. And when you talk to her in person and you showed up and you were the dude that lives downstairs, you didn't think

that would go bad. Well, I was just trying to use the information to talk to her about things she would like. But a fake persona, I was never going to meet her as that. I mean, I was just using that to kind of get to know her better.

But it got really out of hand. So you were basically like being a spy on a dating nap in order to find out I don't know if she likes to go hiking, so that when you ran into her into the building, you could be like, oh, hey, I'm also going on a hike, let's go together, and then she would fall in love with the real you, not the fake you. Yes, exactly. Thank you for understanding whoa okay catfished her to get research on things to talk to her about. Elaborate. Yeah, that's a lot of work.

And then how did you let your fake persona say I love you to her online? I don't know, she's awesome and I just got wrapped up into this fantasy. Okay, did you mean to actually schedule a date with her? Well, she was the one who was pushing it, and then I just thought since we talked a lot, like she could see past the weird beginning to this relationship we're going to have. Did you have any plan of actually meeting up with her? I gid plan on it, and

then I freaked out at the last moment. So then what was your weight? So everything backfired and now you're just giving up on everything. You're not stalking her anymore? Well, I was never stalking her, but yeah, I mean, I just it's all complicated. Yeah, super complicated. You know what else complicated? Even more? Thomas Kristen is actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you right now. Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. I'm I'm so sorry. This is so embarrassing.

I don't even know what to think. I don't either. Who are you, oh, Glenn, I don't even know who you are, Like, what do you look like? We actually talked once in the laundry mat But I live underneath you. I'm in one or two. I'm the guy with the shaved head. I'm really sorry. I didn't mean for it to get like that. I just I think you're really cool and you're so beautiful, and I just was worried it wouldn't go well. So I don't know, I just know you cats fish me. I thought what you did.

I mean, this is and arrassing. Well, okay, every night I have to find you with your boyfriend upstairs, and that's that should be me. You don't know me. Wait, what boyfriend? What are you talking about? That blonde guy, the one with the hair up to his shoulders. He's been around for like six months and I hear you guys all the time. First of all, he's not my boyfriend. It's nothing like that. Okay, Okay, his girlfriend. I've heard it.

You're like spying on her. So not only are you like creating faith personas to get into her life, but now you're just straight up listening to her conversations inside her apartment no our building, the scale and I just you guys are saying I'm lying while she's also lying. Yeah, do you have a boyfriend or not? Because if you do have a boyfriend, it's weird that you're online trying to meet dudes telling him you love him. Yeah, yeah, both is not my boyfriend is a friend. We hang

out a lot. It's a fun thing. It's not my perfriend and he knows that. Oh man, you guys are both. No, No, I don't care if she's dating eight other dudes right now. What he did is so creepy. Okay. I know we're both in like a weird place and this all started out really weird. But when we were talking online there was something there. There was a good vibe, and like I was vibing with Thomas, not with Glenn. I am Thomas. I don't know, you're not Thomas. You put on the

like fake pictures. It's so bad. You have no idea. Those are my brother? Actually, are breaking a picture of your brother? Yeah? Those are pictures of my older brother. Does he even know that you're doing that? No, he told me I should do it. You are such a bad liar. Are you actually trying to still make this work? I mean, she would literally have to be just as nuts as you to want to continue whatever weird fantasy

relationship you started. Whatever. I mean, I'm not moving out of the building, So either we go on a day or just like I don't know. You cannot make me go on a day with you. This is just so that whatever this all got really out of hand. I was just trying to get to know you because I liked you, and now it's just weird and it's our fault. Glad, you could have talked to me like a normal person and just asked me out. Who knows, lady, I would

have gone out with you. I did try to talk to you like a normal person in the laundry mat, and you were didn't even give me the time of day. You just walked out. I don't even remember this. Who knows, I don't even know what was going on in my mind that day. Whatever, I liked you, and I'm down to go out on another date if you want. All right, well, Kristen, would you like to go on a second, well a first date with Thomas. Thomas? We will pay for me. No, yeah,

and I'm changing my lots. I mean, this is grout. Oh my god, Glad. She needs to call her landlord right now. All right, Well, I'm not gonna talk to you, so don't worry. I'll forget you, exist, forget I exist, and tell your boyfriend I say hello, he oh my boyfriend text day at seven eight five nine two says I hope Kristin moves. Yeah, I think everybody does. It's Brooke and Jewel in the morning. If you miss today's

second day update, it's girl. Kristen met a dude named Thomas about a month ago online and things got really serious, really fast. They were even saying I love you to each other before they actually met. They set up a dinner date, but Thomas never showed up, and then we tried calling Thomas, but a dude named Glenn picked up the phone and he admitted that he lived in the same apartment complex as Kristen and set up the profile because he hoped to learn some extra background about her.

When you just spell it all out, it's so creepy. Yeah right, And she was creeped out, especially when Thomas said he knew about the other guy that she'd been hanging out with in her apartment. Yeah no, something about her guy asked her. Well, he did online as another person and it didn't work out well for him because he did not get a second date. Remember, you want to do a second day update, all you got to do is email the show and we will call the

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