2nd Date Update PODCAST: Restroom Wrangle

where I'm coming from. They see everything right there out in the open. I just picture you naked with a lot of insecurities scribbled all over yourself. And that's good because they get to see everything about me. Yeah. Granted, I haven't had a date in a long time, and the last couple didn't end very well, didn't start very well. Yeah, cops were called anyway, they weren't understanding my body language,

and that can be a problem. Well, Brett, who's on the phone today for a second date up date, got some bad advice from a dating blog, I guess, and he thinks that his body might have got him in trouble. What's up, Brett, how are you? I'm good. How are you would your body betrayed you, Brett? Yes, I think so. Well, I should say that this dating blog betrayed me. I think. Okay, we'll get to what your body did in a second. First, tell us about the girl you want to call today.

What's her name Jennica? Jennica? And where did you meet Jennica? I met her on a dating app, and I've been able to go on a lot of first dates from the same app. And the problem is, I've had trouble getting second dates, even though you know, I'll think a first date goes well and then it's like I never hear from the person again, which I guess is why you're calling us, right, because you're back in that same positionally,

this is the place to call. Yeah. So I read the dating blog that said that it was good to try to initiate some sort of physical contact. So you tackled her as soon as you saw her? Yeah, I mean, you know, I figured football was the way to go. M No, you know, but like, how do you do that without seeming creepy? So I'm like trying to think, like maybe I can read her palm or like under the table. I think you're tried not to be creepy. Man. Well, I mean think about it though, like you know, you're

just meeting someone. Yeah, I mean what other ways are there to try to initiate that physical conduct? I know, like maybe you could do like a high five to start and then see where that goes if it lingers at all. Yeah, you do the high five and when your hand stats, you interlock her fingers and you hold her hand there and start into her eyes that you know.

I don't understand why you have to touch someone. Well, I think the idea behind the blog post was right that it's like that way, you know, there's a chemical connection and you can like feel that between the two people, there's like that spark. I mean, like that makes sense to me. It just the problem was that it was like in the back of my mind the entire time. So I feel like I was like twenty percent in the date eight per like, how do I touch this

person without looking or feel the message? All right? That can put you in a very tough situation. So how did you touch herr? How did you touch her? Sounds weird to say, but did you initiate some personal touching? So? Yeah, so I was like I was like, you know, let me, let me do this. I actually did have to go to the bathroom. Site, so I got up and I was like, Okay, when I come back, I'm just gonna like put my hand on her shoulders and then and

then you know, like say something charming or something you know. So, so can I ask? I'm sorry, can I ask? Real quick? Were you guys sitting at a table where you at the bar like we were sitting at a table? Okay, so you can. So I would like, so like, you know, I would like, I guess, come up behind her and

I know, I know, So how did that work for you? Well? Okay, so the first time I chickened out and then and then I said I had to go to the bathroom when I didn't really have to again like fifteen minutes later, and I decided to just come up behind her and I just was like guess who? And yeah, so I tried to grab her shoulders like kind of gently, but as soon as as soon as we made contact, she like jumped, and so it was not ideal. Okay, so

you scared her? I guess, yeah, all right, kind of on purpose kind of not Yeah, did it seem like she got over that or was it weird from that point on? Yeah, I mean she like she laughed a little. It wasn't like it didn't like derail the day. Okay, So I thought of the day one really well about it. Maybe she had already like written me off. I'm not sure, okay. And when you said guess who, it wasn't like deep and inner ear and creepy, right, I guess who? It's

your day exactly? No, no, no, no, it was nothing like that. I was really just trying to be friendly. And how did things end? Did you get some physical touch there at the end? There was a hug at the end, and it would be a nice hug. I mean, it wasn't like the longest lasting hug, but it was. It was a hug, and it gave me the impression that, like, okay, like a second date is definitely in the works. Cool. So I mean, did you talk to her sense? Have

you texted called? I've tried texting and I have not heard anything. Have you tried texting or explaining that you didn't feel like you touched her appropriately or enough in the first date and you'd like a second chance at that. No, I have not tried that, although if that's what you guys advise, I would probably not do it. Oh yeah, well you're a smart man. All right, well we'll play a song, come back, and then call her and get your second date update. Okay, okay, all right, hang on

looking jubil in the morning. Second Today's second date update is proof that you should be very careful when taking advice from dating blogs because you never know who's writing them, you know. For example, I've got three right now, all under different aliases. And Brett, who's on the phone for a second date update today, got some advice from a dating blog on how to connect with somebody physically on

your first date without coming off like a creep. And he thinks he came off like a creep, which is interesting because I want to see where he got his information from. Brett, was the dating blog that you read by somebody named Lady Mariah? I don't think so? Okay, Well, what could it have been? Lady Beyonce? Definitely not okay, last one hot blog? And Mama, no, okay, you didn't go with Lady Gaga and the last one I thought that was just a softball. No, that's that's my blog.

And Mama blog. It's a good one. But yeah, apparently I wasn't one of mine, Brett, so I didn't steer you in the wrong direction either way. You think the fact that you were really kind of focused on trying to get some touching started on your first date might be the reason you're not getting a call back from what's her name again, Jena Jenica? Okay, we'll give her a call right now and see if we can find

out why. Any last thoughts before we do that. Yeah, I know, I would really just love another date with Jenica where you know, I'm not going to be so in my head about the touching part. Yeah, I probably wouldn't tell her that because if you didn't creep her out on the date, you probably will after. I was just thinking about touching you the whole time. Good point, All right, Oh, doll her rnumber right now? See we can get on the phone. Here we go. Hello, Hi,

is this Jennica. That's a shame? Hey Jenica, how are you? My name is Jew Bill from brook and Jewbil in the morning. What hey, Jenica. Yeah, you're obviously familiar with the show. No, No, you're not sounded like you were sounded like we were all friends. Yeah, no, I don't. I don't know what you people are. Okay, okay, so you're just an ec one to please. Anytime you get a call from somebody you don't recognize, you kind of laughing or like, oh hey you thanks for calling. I

bet it's genius. That's got to throw telemarketers off. All right, Well, Jennica, it's a radio show. It's called Brook and Jewel in the Morning. Okay. Anyway, I'm calling you today because we do a segment on our show called the Second Date Updates. So a dude named Brett emailed in about you. Oh okay, you got a few minutes to tell us about your date with Brett and maybe why you don't want to call him back. Um, oh god, this is weird. Um okay, I just didn't like him. I don't know what his

deal was. I yeah, I'm just not interested. Is there a reason, though? Did you do something strange? I mean this is strange. Um, I mean everything about this and the date it was a little strange. Was it awkward right from the beginning or did he work into awkward for you? It wasn't awkward at the beginning, But what was weird was that he got out to go to the bathroom, and he was in there for like ten minutes,

So that was a little weird. And I kept looking over at the bathroom because he you know, when he was going to come back. And when he finally came out of the bathroom, I noticed that he came out of the women's room. Um. Yeah, And so was it like one of those restaurants where they're like trying to be cutesy and they're naming the women's and men's like different things. No, No, no, it definitely. It definitely labeled

men and women. Definitely. Yeah, nothing nothing kitchy, Okay. Did he address why he was using the ladies room instead of the men's room. No, he didn't say anything, and I didn't say anything. You know, I figured probably was an accident. I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt. But then like ten minutes later, he excused himself to go to the bathroom again, and I was like, so I watched him go to see which bathroom he went in, and he like looked around all

shadily and then went in the women's room again. Who really, Like, yeah, double women's room visits, So that doesn't mean it was an accident. Yeah, and like the fact that he was like kind of schedually looking around before he went into the women's room made it extra creepy. But is it creepy or I mean, like was it a single stall or were we talking a multistall bathroom, because if it's a single stall, I don't know that it's creepy or

a multi stall bathroom. Okay, okay, Like I'm shocked that nobody walked in on him and caught him in there, like either lucky or unfortunate, I don't know, depending on what he was going for. Because very good point. We talked to him about your date and he didn't mention that.

I don't well, So I was texting my friend about it, being like, oh my god, this guy on my date was just went in the women's room twice, And while I was mid texting her, he had come back and he scared me, Like he grabbed me and was like it's me Like surprise. Sounds like a fun date to me. Yeah, So I don't know it was he was just giving

me like serial killer vibes. I don't know, Like, I like, who goes in the women's room and then comes out and scares her date like that's he did tell us that, like you hugged him at the end, though, Well, I mean he paid for dinner. I felt like it was at least I could do. Yeah. Yeah, and you just want to get out of there as quickly as possible, So it's like, yeah, sure, I'll hug you real quick and then I'll never talk to you again. Yeah, if you guys talk to him, I don't know. I perceived

the caution because he seems like kind of a creep. Well, we did talk to him, and also he's listening on the other line and wants to talk to you, Jenica. Oh my god, Jenica, I know it sounds weird, but I could totally explain this. Okay, really tell me it's actually not a weird thing. I know, you know several other people who do this. See, I don't know anybody who does that, and there are plenty of males in my life. I feel like somebody would have said this

along the way. I don't know how you know hordes of people that do this. Um not to mention, Jenica, I mean you're a woman. I'm a woman, and I've never run into men in our restroom, right, Well, let me just be clear. I always make sure to look to make sure that like there's not anyone in the restroom, And that's why I was looking around, because if there was, I would have definitely not used a woman's restroom someone from walking in exactly well, I mean if someone would

have walked in, I would have left immediately. Can really things you're going to the bathroom? Why do you do this, Brett? Women's restrooms are so much nicer than men's restrooms. They they smell better, they are often bigger. There's sometimes there's a couch in there. But if you're dude hanging out in the women's bathroom couch, that's not good. No, No,

I'm not hanging out. I'm just trying to paint you a picture of like how nice they are comparison to like the hell hole that is the men's room where it's like cleaned, you know, twice a year, and there's like pea everywhere and they stink. So shouldn't your mission, Tom? No? But seriously, like seriously, I really recommend like guys up

there to tride this out. But if stay away from our bathrooms, Brett, And here's the thing, make your mission, Like I don't know, banding together with your bros to make your own restroom cleaner, you know where. I just think he's making this up. I think that I caught him doing something weird and he's just making up this whole thing to make it seem like it's the women dress room. No, no, no, no, I'm not making this up. This is this. There's something that I do and I

don't think it's weird. I bet you know people in your life who do this too, And I just there's so much shame around it, clearly about using the wrong bathroom. You're just getting weirder and weirder. Yeah, okay, okay, but Jeremicha, look, I'm not some creek who just like hangs out inside of women's restrooms. I'm a normal guy who uses them on occasion. And that's what I was doing that at evening.

And I know, I'm sorry you got the wrong impression, but I thought we had a really good time and really good conversation and and I would love to get the chance to see you again. You know, maybe I could look past the women's restroom thing. But then you came out and scared me, and I was like, this is just extra super weird. You know, Okay, I'm can explain that too. I can explain that too. Be angry at this blog that I read that that told me to do that. Don't still be glad at me, I mean,

be angry at the internet. Don't you read a blog that told you to scare your date? No, I don't know. It said that initiating physical contact on the first date is a good step. Yeah, but like that naturally, not like scaring someone, like we're not twelve a thing, I don't. I know. I know that now, and it's it's easier said than done, like to be natural. I mean I wanted to like maybe touch your hands when they were on the table, or like maybe like just touch feet

under the table or something. But but like I would worry that that those would be too creepy. So like it's not easy to be a guy dating now, Yeah, really difficult, you know, when you're using women's restrooms and trying to touch your date in weird ways. This is way harder for Jennica. I can guarantee you that. Yeah, I mean I feel like date two, he's gonna be like sniffing my hair and collecting it, making a hair at all. Yeah, that is so unforted. I would totally

not do that. I mean unless a blob told me that, and then I would tell that was a joke. That was a joke. Yeah, I was just trying to joke about the situation, Jennica. I mean, Jennica, would you like to go out with Brett on a second date? We will pay for it. Listen, I don't want to leave the second date in a body bag. Like I don't think this is a good idea. My girl Dare is saying, no unsafe situation. I'm all set. Yeah, good job Jennica, Brett. I'm sorry that you didn't get a second date. Did

you at least learn anything from this? Yeah? I did learn something. Next time when I go on a date, I'm gonna have to use the women's restroom at the restaurant next door non Jewel in the morning.