2nd Date Update PODCAST: On Pins and Needles

say no, obviously they're crazy. If they say yes, let's have a good time. It's kind of how I do it. But Kyle, who's on the phone today for a second date up date, apparently has a different, more boring method. I think we'll find out about that in just a second. But first, Kyle, what's up man? How are you hey? How's it gun? Not bad? So before we get into your little technique on how you find out if a girl is crazy or not? Where do you mean the

girl you want to call today? What's her name? Her name's Virginia, but she also goes by Ginny okay and better on Tinder? All right, there you go crazy, that's not what he would also be crazy. If everyone on tender's crazy, then they're all dating the crazy dating. Great, that's what's happening right now. Well that's fine, all right. So you said in your email that you have like a standard first date. That's kind of a test for

people you go out with. What did you guys do? Yeah, so we went to coffee And some people might think that's kind of boring, but I think you can tell a lot by what someone orders for coffee. And if it's like a Grande I sugar free vanilla latte with soy, they're probably a high maintenance person. I mean, maybe they're lockhouse intolerant. But so wait, you're you're judging people based on their coffee drinks a little bit. Yeah, I think you can get a good read for personality, Like, okay,

so I think you can. I mean, anytime I've been at a coffee place and there's someone just arguing about like it's not one hundred and twenty four and a half degrees, I'm like, that person is way too eyestrong. Absolutely, I want to know what the best coffee drink a date can order in your mind, just coffee, just a hot coffee, okay, well maintenance again, boring or basic. I mean, you could do whatever you want with it at the little prep bar, but that's your own prerogative. If you're

just getting coffee, why go to a coffee shop. You can make that at home. It's fun, it's I mean, I don't think many people get asked to coffee dates anymore. Okay, okay, the environment right. So guessing Virginia, who you went on on a date with, passed your test because you want to call her for another date. Yeah, she just got a regular lattech. Okay, that's more than just coffee. I thought you were talking just black okay, And how is

your actual date with her? It was fun. Another thing I did a I bought two little bottles of Bailies for us and brought it to the coffee place. So you're going to a coffee shop and trying to still get drunk. That's awesome. It's not just go to a bar. I don't understand you, because the bar doesn't have good coffee. At least I got a coffee shop, all right. The alcoholic in the room knows what Yeah, I know what's up?

So did you guys drink the bailies or yes, she actually wanted something, which I mean that's a good clue. And everything went well and we were discussing what we like, our hobbies and everything, and actually have something in common with her grandpa. I collect campaign buttons from all over the world, really and yeah, and I was like, I'd love to see his and you wanted to be mine? Is that the reason you want to call her is you just want to meet her grandpa? So you guys

can compare campaign buttons. Yeah, I'm using her for grandpa. I actually have one of Fidel Castro from way back when, in like the early fifties. Is that your most prize button? It is cool? Is it worth a lot of money? I have no idea. I haven't checked that out. It's not doing it for the money, You're doing it for the love. Okay. They actually don't allow Castro's face on any pins in Cuba, so it's pretty rare to find one.

And I have one. That's cool, I know, right, I mean, how many people do you know that have Fidel Castro campaign buttons? Only one? Yeah, I don't know many for Del Castro fans, so well, I'm not saying I'm a fan. I have his button that turner on. You know, I could have you wanted to come over and see it to your house after the coffee day we did? Yes? Wow, okay, so things were going real Well how was that? I mean, this is where it gets kind of wonky for me.

She was at my place and she hadn't been checking her phone or anything when we were getting coffee, but then she was just pretty much always on her phone when she was at my place, and I was like, is everything okay? And she said a friend of hers was having a meltdown and that she needed to go and would like to reschedule the whole castro viewing. But it's now been over a week and I'm only getting kind of short cold text back, and that's why I'm here.

I'd like to your help figuring out what to do next. Well, what's your sense on the meltdown? Was it an excuse or did you believe her? I couldn't really get a read for it. Okay, Yeah, but the fact that she's not really being responsive to you sounds like she might have just used an excuse. Yeah, exactly. Can you think of anything weird that happened no other than everything that

she was already down to do. You don't have any other strange collections in your house, right, little collection of dust? But okay, yeah, I think that's okay. All right, Yeah, well we'll try to figure it out. We'll play a song and then come back and call her and get your second day update. Okay, great, thank you? All right, Hey, rucking jubil in the morning date. You know, a lot of guys will try to impress girls are on a date with with their car or their nice Rolex watch.

But not Kyle, who's on the phone for a second date update today. He tries to impress women with his vintage political campaign buttons crushing at a retirement homes for sure, And that's exactly what happened on his first date. He met a girl named Virginia on tender. They went out for coffee and then went back to his place because he brought up during his date that he collects vintage political campaign buttons and she said, oh, my grandpa does too, and so he wanted to show her some of his.

They went to his place, then she said she had an emergency and had to leave, and he hasn't really heard from her. Since we're gonna try to go on the phone and find out why. And for the record, if it's the political campaign buttons that turned her off, she's lame, like it's cool when people have really interesting, quirky hobbies. Thank you. Yeah, I'm on your side, that's all I'm saying. If you guys want to ever come by and see them yourself, I'm happy to let you

in and show you a route. Yeah. I support you not that much. Maybe tweet me maybe I'll have you back. All right, I'm gonna dial her phone right now, Okay, you ready? Yeah? All right, here we go. Hello, Hi, may I speak to Virginia please? This is she. Hey Virginia, how are you? This is Jewel from Brook and Jewel in the Morning. Who did you say that you were? Jewel from Brooke and Jewel in the Morning. It's a radio show. Have you ever heard it? Now? Okay? You

any friends that have heard it? I don't know. Okay, do you ever google it? No? Probably not, Okay, I'll just get to the point. It's a radio show called Brooke and Jewel in the Morning, and we got an email about you from somebody who does listen to the show. Wait, what you got an email about me. Yes, we do a segment on our show. It's called the second Date Update.

That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then end up not calling them back after or wanting to see him again, they can email us to get you on the phone and find out what happened. So we got an email about you from a dude named Kyle. What the hell? I know, That's what I said, right Hello, you said, don't understand what's happening. So Kyle

emailed us because he told us about your date. He said that he really enjoyed going out with you, but now it's pretty obvious that you don't want to see him again, and he wanted us to talk to you and see if we can find out Why. Does that make sense? Now? Yeah, this is just like really weird. You mind telling us about your date. I don't really

know what to say. Like it sounded like, I mean from his description that you guys really hit it off at coffee and that you went back to his place, which is always a good sign that you were interested to some degree during the date. Yeah. Um, he's the kind of guy that, like you think he's one way, but then you find out that he's just a completely different person. Okay, can you explain a little more detail for us? He sounds like a pretty mild mannered guy.

I mean he said he collects political campaign buttons. Yeah, you don't usually call those guys wild and crazy, you know what I mean? Maybe just start with like what you thought he was to begin with. I don't know. I thought he was like a normal, nice guy. Maybe I should have picked up on there were signs like he brought like airplane alcohol bottles to a coffee shop. I thought he was trying to be but it was I guess that's a red flag. Probably I should have

known it. Yeah, do you drink a lot in your like Jose, So maybe it is a red flag if you don't want to date a heavy drinker. Yeah, that was, like, I guess, the first weird thing. But we went back to his place and I had to go to the bathroom. And I went to his bathroom and there was a shyringe just like laying out on the counter. Wait, and then I walked by his bedroom on the way back and there was another syringe on his bedside table. Okay,

so you're you think that he's a bit of a partier. Yeah, And then we were looking at this button collection that he has, which was cool. But then there was like a knock at the door and he went to answer it and this guy was there, and they like they really said hello to each other. The guy just like handed in a bag and he was like cool, thanks man, and then he closed the door. So this guy you think he's into whoa? So yeah, is that what you're saying.

You're saying that you think Kyle is like a like a big drug user or I don't know, I don't know why he's into, but it was clear to me that he was into some obviously bad stuff. And oh, I just like faked at a conversation with my friend. Okay, it's a pretty big jump though, that you're making. I'm just saying, look at the evidence, and if he's like dealing with some issues or something, that's you know, that's his own battle. But I just it's not something I

personally want to get involved in, you know what I mean? Yeah, you're not into doing heroin on a first day? What a prude? Yeah? No, no, well when you like to find out what all that stuff was about. Not really, I mean I feel like, my instincts are pretty dead on thinking about it, though, if he was a drug dealer, who wouldn't contact us? I don't know that. Yeah, And I don't know that either, because there's a lot of people who listen to show that do drugs and are

drug dealers, so they probably could contact us. But I was going to say, Virginia, the best way to find out it was probably just to ask him. And he's actually on the phone listening and wants to talk to you. Oh, I don't want to talk it. Okay, it's a little too late, Kyle. Are you there? Yeah, Hi, this has been a huge misunderstanding. Okay, the syringes are for insulin. I'm a diabetic. Oh sure, are you serious? I mean, I can't believe you thought I was a drug addict.

We like, there were syringes in like multiple places around your apartment, and a guy came to your door that you barely spoke to. The knock at the door was an Amazon delivery and I'm not gonna talk with him and get to know him. I didn't even think. I didn't even think of an Amazon guy dropping off stuff. I automatically thought some dude was dropping off drugs to you. Wait, what about you had like cleaning products like all over

your apartment? And I went home and I googled that and it said that sometimes like drug dealers use cleaning products to like make their their stuff. No, no, no, I cleaned my house earlier that day, from like top to bottom. I just didn't put them away. That's a big assumption to go from cleaning products to meth lab. Well, I wouldn't have started there. But there's like ten other signs, Like I just there's just too many red flags, Kyle, like, I'm not buying it. I'm sorry. Oh you still don't

believe them? Like you brought alcohol to a copy date, Like what, you can't get through your day without? I can very much get through my day. That was just to you know, have some fun on a coffee date. You gotta believe me. This is crazy. I'm not Walter White. I'm gonna trying to judge you at all your lifestyle. But like I watch a lot of documentaries, I just

feel like I know my instincts are right here. If he could produce like a medical card that says that he is diabetic, would that be good enough for you? I don't need to produce a medical card to be believed. You just gotta trust me. I mean, I'm a diabetic. I don't have to trust you, and I really honestly don't trust you. I've seen it a million times. You like, learn me in your apartment, you get me high on drugs, if you like, try and sell me out to prostitution. Damn, Kyle,

I had no idea you were into somebody. You're really like a drug dealer, You're human trafficking. You're doing all that. I'm not like an innocent dude who wanted coffee and likes to collect buttons. But this is insane. I was wrong. Women that don't read the room. Can I get involved in some messed up stuff? I'm not interested, But Virginia, I mean, come on, you've watched too many true crime documentaries like on this case. I think, why would he

contact us? If he was ready to do all this illegal, shady stuff, he'd be a horrible criminal who would have gotten caught already. I don't know, but I'm sure I don't make a really interesting documentary, and I'm not interested in being part of it. This is crazy. I don't know what else I could have done. I mean, I'm a diabetic. Have you ever done hard drugs before? Kyle? Uh not? Look at that pause? Yeah, now you could drive a tractor that pause. Virginia, would you like to

go on a second date with Kyle? Will pay for it? Absolutely not? No, No, I'm not getting a second date because she thinks I'm a drug dealer. Yeah. Yeah, a drug dealer who's gonna get her high and prostitute her. I'm a diabetic who it's collecting campaign buttons. I'm not buying it, dude, you better start covering your tracks more. I'm gonna try and pick up some checks on the street and sell them out. Yeah. Sounds like a perfect front to me. Kyle, I'm sorry, man, be sorry. When

we see his mug shot one day ago. Maybe everything you're saying is true, Maybe you are a diabetic and it was just cleaning products, but I'm just not willing to take that risk with my life, like this is it's my life. Wow. Wow, good luck hiding under your blanket at home. Well, Kyle, I'm sorry, no second day, but it sounds like actually you might want to be thankful about that. Wow. All right? Can I go now? Yeah? Going now? And be safe. It's really dangerous out there.

Hey Kyle. Yeah, I didn't not expect it to go down like that. Man, I'm sorry. I guess I need to hide my syringes better. Yeah, I better. I remember you said earlier we could come check out your campaign button collection. Now that we know a little more about you, I'm more interested coming over to check out the other stuff you got. Line around hit me up, yeah yeah, come on down. I'll give you the Big Drug Tour. Yeah you can tell he's totally a drug addict. Give

you the Big Drug Tour. Broken jewel in the morning,