2nd Date Update PODCAST: Dating Contract

went great, they got along great. Even after that they talked on the phone. Things were going great, and then something happened and now things are not going great. We'll good to that in just a second. But what's that, Hannah? How are you? Hey? How's it coming? Guys? Pretty good? I like when people know the exact moment things went wrong, because that's what it sounds like for you. Yeah, I mean, okay, so let me explain what happened first before I get

to it. Okay, what's his name? First of all, his name's Mark Mark. All right, So I'm at Mark at the airport, getting ready, you know, bord a flight. Yeah. I was looking for a place to charge my phone and there were no open outlets. So you know, I met this nice guy. He was like, hey, you want to borrow mine? I was like, oh, that's awesome, thanks.

But it sat down, and uh we started chatting randomly, and he was super cute and really nice and and he obviously thought the same of you, because there's no way he's going to let you use a charger. If I mean, that's a good opening pipe, I'm never use my charge Yeah, keep your hands off. I guess yeah. I mean he was cool though, So you started chatting and turned to win the plane. I was hoping, you know, maybe he'd be on the same flight and you know, I would get a chance to maybe sit close to

him and keep talking. But it turned out he was actually on a different flight, of course. But he asked me. He's like, are you from here? I was like yeah, yeah. So he asked me from my number, which I was super excited about. I was hoping he was going to call me and everything. But if he didn't, I feel like, you know, too bad, that sucks. He's really cute, so it wasn't one of those things where you're like some people who instantly thought that he was your soul mate.

And if he doesn't call you, the whole world is going to end. You were He was like, oh, I hope he called him, but if he doesn't, not the end of the world. I was hoping he was going to call me, but but no, not the end of the world. Obviously he called because you went out on a date. Yeah, so we've kept chatting on the phone.

We talked a few times and set up plans. So when we booke up back from our trips and you know, went to the Space far and got some drinks and he came to us in the Sioux and looked really nice, you know, like handsome, it all done up. So we had this amazing time and then by the end of the night we ended up making out. Okay, so that's good at all. Good at this point, what are you thinking of him? I mean, because obviously he's moved from just like the random guy at the airport to now

potential boyfriend. I wouldn't say that I was sure he was boyfriend right away, but I mean definitely interested, you know, definitely potential. You know, that's good. You made out with him, so I would hope you would be hoping for some pot Yeah, there's nothing with this guy. I'm not even

attracted to him, but let's make out real quick. Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know, Like things went really well, and we talked for a few times on the phone and kept chatting, and so here's I guess where things kind of get a little bit strange. Like I know that I wanted to keep seeing him and see where things go, and I think that he did too. So I told him, you know, the last time we chatted that I've been I've been hurt really really bad before with some crazy

XS and some bad situations. So you know, I told him. I was like, I have this thing that is like a safety net for me. But it's basically like a dating contract. What okay? And what does that mean? It's like something that I wrote up to Kila help protect myself about like things that he has to reveal to me, like do you have any crazy psycho access, do you

have any dependent children? Do you have any STDs? This is an actual written document that you have, Yeah, I mean, like it's not like I sent it to my lawyer, but it's like a paper that I wrote up because I want to be respect did and like there's some weirdos out there, like and you never know, and like I want to know what I'm getting myself into, I guess. And on one side, they always say you need to be clear with what your expectations are, and that's a

very clear way to do it. That's very true. Yeah. Yeah, So I emailed it over to him and I said, you know, like take a look. This is kind of like what I'm about and s important to me. But I know it's not a normal thing. And I said that, but you know, I just thought he would take a look, and I was up front everything was there. Have you given that to other dudes before and they've been cool with it, to be honest, this is the first time that I've done it, but it's because like I've been

hurt so bad from the other one. So yeah, so it is it? Like what was his response to that. He chatted with me a couple of times, but it was kind of like brief, like he said he was busy and how to go to work, and then like I haven't seen him in like I haven't scheduled any dates. And I really like this guy. So I was like really concerned and I didn't want to scare them away, but I don't scare him away, but I gave him

a contract. I say that could be a little done, right, Yeah, I like the thing is, like, I can understand why you did it, and you're reasoning, but if you were to receive one for me, If I ever got one of those, it would be a huge red flag that the person I was about to date has major trust issues. It wasn't my intention to scare him away. And I guess, you know, with what you guys said that maybe maybe

it did. But I really like this guy, like I had serious intentions of, you know, wanting to see where it goes. Okay, well, at least we can get him on the phone and maybe you can make your case, like if that's the thing that did scare him off, which probably was, then you can try to reassure him that you're not crazy. You've just been hurt before. Okay, Well play a song and then come back and call

them and get your second day update. Okay, Oh okay, thanks guys, All right, hang frooking jubil in the morning. Nothing says true love like contract negotiations. That's right. I know everybody probably just swooned when I said that. Heavy And that's what Hannahs they with right now because she went on on a date with some dude named Mark. They liked each other a lot, even made out at the end of the day and continued to talk on the phone trying to set up another date, and then

she dropped her dating contract on him. Apparently she wrote up a contract for dating her because she's been burned in the past. She emailed it over to him, and since then he's kind of seemed not interested. So we're about to call him and find out if it is the dating contract that turned him off, you know, Hannah, everything about Maybe he's got it with his lawyers right now and they're reviewing it and he's gonna make account.

I think that's taking it a little too far, But I think you need to realize, even if this one doesn't turn out, it is a very good lesson since he's the first guy you've given this too, to maybe do a better job explaining how you're trying to be honest with your expectations beforehand so he doesn't take it the wrong way. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I honestly don't think it's anything past, you know, like what I would expect in a relationship. But we'll see. That's why

I have you guys to help me. All right, well, we'll see what we can do that. I'm a Dallas one of me right now. Okay, okay, all right, here we go. Hello, Hi, guys, speaks to Mark. Please. This is him? Hey, Mark, how are you? This is Jewel from Brooke and Jewel in the Morning. Who Jewil from Brook and Jewel in the Morning. It's a radio program show Graham on the radio in the morning. On the radio show. I don't really listen to the radio. Yeah, don't blame you. Well, it's a radio show called Brooke

and Jewel in the Morning. And one of our listeners emailed us about you. That's why I'm calling you. Somebody about me? Who who is? I don't understand? Good question. Yeah, I'm gonna start with the who is first? Okay. Hannah emailed us about you. Hannah. Oh oh, okay, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it sounded pleasurable. Okay, I don't understand what's going on here. I can tell and I'm starting to not understand either. And I've done this like a million times. She emailed us because we do a segment

on our show called the Second Date Update. That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and then end up not calling them back, they can email us to get you on the phone and figure out what happened. And she says that you guys have been talking a lot. You met, you had a really cool first date, you made out, and you guys were talking a bunch of things were going great, and then all of a sudden, it seems like you're not interested. So

she wants to know why. Yeah, but does that laugh mean that she should already know why you're not calling her back. I would think that she would so weird. She was cool and yeah, we like mete out at the end, so that was promising. But like we're talking on the phone and she's like, oh, just one little thing, I'm gonna send you something, And she sends me this three page document of a contract, like a dating contract. Three pages. It's at three full pages of rules and conditions. Yeah,

she told us that she sent that to you. I didn't realize that it was three pages long, though I thought it was. Someone just said, hey man, it's Hannah, Please don't hurt me. Sound on the dotted line. Yeah, Oh no. It was a whole list of things I had to do, like disclosed crazy excess, asking you if I had STDs. Hold on, let me, I'm gonna pull it up. It's still on my phone home. Sweet, Okay, I don't know exactly what's in there. While you pull

it up, I feel like you should understand. Like from her side, she says that she was just trying to be honest and upfront with what her expectations for dating are because she hasn't been in the past and it hasn't turned out. Well, I get that everybody's been burned. Hold on, look look at this. Okay, STDs disclosed political beliefs. Wow, that's tough. I mean, I guess that's okay. She would just want to date somebody who doesn't align with herically,

So you guys aren't arguing about that all the time. Well, and usually that just happens organically, Like you figure that out. Well, that's the point of dating, right, Like, that's probably why you were upset. Yeah, But then it gets into like more behavioral stuff like you have to text or call once a day to check in. Okay, now we're getting Yeah, I can see that would start to throw up some flags for me that we've got two hours notice if

you want to cancel a date, oh my gosh, dentist appointment? Yeah, come on, yeah, you guys are always getting mad at women who maybe we can't tell what you want. You know what you want. I mean that is true. You got it there in writing. And if she ever tries to give you a crap about something and be like, no, no, no no, no, I am completely within my contract. I canceled the date, but it was with it, it was for two hours. I'm good. You can't get mad about this.

It could be nice. Actually, honestly, if it was just those things, I would probably agree to it. But this list keeps going. There's worse things in it. How about this when fighting, no silent treatment is allowed or any passive aggressive behavior. Dude, She's never going to be a relationship with expectations like this. And then below that there's an amendment saying all disagreements must be fully discussed, even

if we agree to disagree. Oh that sounds good actually, with tiring a lot, a lot of long conversations, I would imagine Boston, though, what line was it that really made you completely decide you weren't going to ever call her back again? I can't choose one, but this one's definitely a bad one. Mandatory presence for Christmas, Valentine's and all major anniversaries. Yeah you should be doing that, but

put that in writing saying very detailed though. Okay, you guys, it's a nuts thing that she did, really, but you liked her, and if she could like disregard this contract, would you still be interested in seeing her? I don't know, like this thing, like how you guys are trying to pull any sort of positive that I'm like, if there wasn't a huge giant red Yeah, you don't want it, give me, guys. I don't really understand what the problem is. I'm just trying to protect myself. I don't really see

this as like a bad thing. Who's Oh, Mark, I forgot to tell you. That's Hannah. She's actually on the other line listing and wants to talk to you. I should have been in the contracts. Sorry about that? No, no, no, yeah, no, Mark, Mark, I honestly like, I feel like, you know, having this communication was so important for like a relationship to like last that we you know, we're on the same page and you know what I want, Like, what is wrong with you agreeing to those things, like, are you hiding

something that's like stuff that normal boyfriend relationships do? Look like everybody has been hurt by somebody before, but this is not the way to handle it. Well, most of those people didn't sign a contract beforehand, and that's probably why. Mark, No, but this is really excessive. Like We've been on one date and now I'm supposed to sign a contract that puts me on the hook for a bunch of presents

and like calls every day. I mean, at least I didn't put like the amount of the present that you had to buy me, like the price, but you had an amount in mind, didn't you. I mean, I like nice things, what girl doesn't. But like what I'm saying is I'm not crazy, Like I think I'm being pretty reasonable. I've been totally one up front of you. I feel like in a relationship, you want to know those things so you know what I would like it in a

relationship though, Yeah, but this is like all expectations. It takes the romance out of it that I'm contractually obligated to do these things with you. Right. Well, look, if you were like an actual stand up guy, it wouldn't feel like a contractual obligation. Those would be like normal things that you would want to do. Yeah, they would be. But now if this is so weird, like I don't want to have an anything to do with it. Yeah, it'd be weird if like President Day is coming up,

You're like, oh, where's that contract? I gotta figure out if I need to get your a gift or something. What happens if I breaks the contract but you just fail? That's a good question too. Yeah, what's the out on that contract? Hannah? Well, I mean it depends on what it is. Like if you ghost me and they'll talk to me for four or five days, then I might think about it because I want somebody who's going to be there and communicate with me and make me feel secure.

But you want someone to do that because they want to. You don't want them to do it because you've made them. That's not a healthy relationship for you either, Like, this isn't a good way to start things. I get what you're saying, but I really liked you, Like we have a lot of fun, and you're charming and you're smart and honestly, Mark, Like that's why I gave this to you. Like I've never done this before I thought about taking

this to the next level. So that's why I wanted to be prepared, Mark, Mark, what do you think would you like to go on a second date with her? We'll pay for it and maybe she can take back the contract stuff and you guys can talk it out a bit more. Would you do that though? Would you take back the contract? I mean maybe we can delay the signing until like the third date. Oh, go, Mark, what do you think just out of curiosity? Yeah, I would definitely go on another date. Really, but like, I'm

never going to sign a contract. Oh oh damn. Okay, if you want these things, we can talk about it, Like we can just talk about it and come to a verbal agreement, but ack negotiation. I know this is exciting. Oh you guys, I feel like I'm at the table with like some pro athletes and an agent. Hannah, Seriously, that is a big deal that he said. Yes, I think that he's a stand up guy. Without the contract, Okay, fine, well leeve the contract for now. I am happy we're

gonna go out again. Awesome. I do like you. But we got to talk about this last rule on the contract, which one if a breakup becomes necessary It must be done face to face and not via text, own or FaceTime. You'd rather have a tax breakup broken jupil in the morning,