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Where is Bronwyn’s body?

Jan 21, 20256 min
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Episode description

Hear the Bronwyn team debate how to approach the biggest question: was Bronwyn concealed under a concrete slab in Sydney’s Sutherland Shire?

This mini-episode is a snippet of a new instalment in our video-only series. Watch the videos now at bronwynpodcast.com

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Transcript

Speaker 1

Hi, Bromwyn listeners. It's Claire from the Australian Back to let you know about another installment of our very special video only series of Bromwyn episodes. In this week's episode, live now at Bromwyn podcast dot com, we continue our conversation recorded at Headley Thomas's home. Sitting around the kitchen table, Hedley and I are joined by Michelle and Andy Reid and Mattie Walsh. It's a candid analysis where Headley opens up on his process.

Speaker 2

When you start self censoring and taking lots of information or parts of a story that are integral to that story out of play, you're on a slippery slope.

Speaker 1

And the youngest member of our team, Mattie Walsh, talks about the intersection between the podcast and our public Facebook forum.

Speaker 3

Some members of the family do choose to air their personal agroepmances on that page when it's so easily accessible just to contact whoever they're targeting, and because they're doing that, it's opening up this discussion to the public where they're allowed to now comment on what this person is saying, and they start asking questions that you know they really shouldn't be asking, and it's really not their business, and to be quite honest, some of these things should not

be brought to the forum. So much of this podcast is personal, and so much of this podcast brings up many private matters, but a lot of them are brought up because people choose to err it publicly. So we have to broach those subjects. We have to talk about them because otherwise people are going to be confused. Otherwise people are going to say, well, why did you ignore this?

Why did you not look further into it? But then it backfires when it then gets mentioned in the podcast because they say, oh, it's not your story to share.

Speaker 1

And of course we continue to probe the big question, where is Bromwn's body. This is about as stark as it gets. Bromwyn is either there under that house in Illowong or she's not. There's no two ways about it.

Speaker 2

It's a tough decision now because we have to work out how best to approach the people who own this house at Ilowong. They've possibly raised a family there, they've got a large investment in this house, and they're going to have complete strangers approaching them to say, we have suspicions about a corpse in the ground. Of your home. We're going to need to approach these people with complete candor and honesty and integrity and a lot of care.

They'll have many questions, why our place, what makes you think it's possible, Where do you think this might go? If it's true, What do you need us to do? What if we say no? They're all very legitimate questions, and we need to know the answers to most of those before we even go there. I think that we can't avoid it. We're not going to be disturbing a crime scene yet because we don't know whether it is a crime scene, but it is something we have to work out. We need to be able to satisfy our

questions and our curiosity about this. We tried up at

Lake Ainsworth. In my view, there's much much more circumstantial evidence pointing to this former building site where John Wingfield was working in nineteen ninety three, a site that he had access to, that he potentially had control of, a site that was about to get a concrete pore, and that, by the reckoning of Glenn Webster and Andy Reid, both highly qualified builders, would have dug a hole beneath the area that would have taken a slab within a day

perhaps two, of that whole being dug, So there are powerful reasons to suspect this place doesn't mean Brombin's there, but it needs to be ruled out.

Speaker 1

Season three of the podcast is coming in February, with all episodes written and hosted by Headley Thomas right here in your audio feed.

Speaker 2

One of the things that we'll be looking at in the Inquest when we do season three and develop episodes around the evidence from the inquest is the suspicion that fell on a building site near Lennox Head that John had access to, and evidence that was part of those in quest proceedings about the possibility that Robin was in

that building site. So it was occurring to people at an early stage that a builder with access to a building site could potentially conceal a body, but it just seems that they were looking in the wrong part of.

Speaker 1

Episodes one and two of this special video only series are available right now over at bromwynpodcast dot com, and there'll be a third episode coming really soon. A subscription to The Australian is just a dollar a week. For the first four weeks you get Australia's best journalism and you can play a vital role in supporting the work of journalists like Headley. We can't do this without us subscribers. To make sure you're the first to watch the video

and to hear the new audio episodes. Subscribe now at bronwynpodcast dot com

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