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Happy Wednesday, Extra Special Wednesday, the Our Power here with my next guest, Congress from Massi, follow by Judge Ennena Poulatana. Welcome back, Congress from Massi, and thank you to the voters and the Commonwealth of Kentucky for electing you over and over again.

It's always good talking with you.

Well, it's great talking with you. It's a little gloomy here at the Capitol today. I'm in DC and we're getting ready to do the work of the people.

Although I'm not sure it's going to be good work. Well, I have been calling it and you can feel free to disagree with me. Our spending problem as an existential threat to our existence as a country. The way we rack up money and spend money, we are digging ourselves into a hole that we can never climb out of. The debt service on the national debts already a trillion dollars annually that is going to continue to erode the ability of government to fund and spend on literally everything else.

Congressman Massy, it is time to rip the band aid off. Look, there's no bright line between freedom and socialism. It's kind of a fuzzy line, okay, And I think you measure it in terms of how much does your federal government? How much are your GDP does your federal government spend every year? If your government's taking away you know, thirty percent the federal government.

I'm not even talking about state and local.

If the federal government it's taking away thirty percent of your money and reallocating that we consider that socialism. That's about where most of the European countries have been for several decades. And we've been at about twenty percent of GDP. That's been our federal spending. But what happened during COVID is we popped up to thirty percent for a couple of years, one year under Trump and one year under Biden.

We were supposed to.

Vote on that, and they quietly canceled all those votes. And so what I'm facing right now is this big, beautiful bill up here.

It's got tax cuts.

It's a grab bag of goodies for everybody, particularly the blue state Republicans that you just.

Talked about that are crying about their next election.

They want their deduction for their house, the taxes on their houses to go from ten thousand dollars to thirty thousand dollars.

The salt if you yeah, the state and local tax.

If you heard the word salt, that's an acronym for state and local tax. Can you deduct it from your federal taxes?

Well you you.

Can right now up to ten thousand dollars. But you know there's some big houses in New York, or the property taxes in California where you know they're they're literally robbing them blind. In New York and California, they wanted local taxes to be so high. So the Republicans there are saying, well, we shouldn't have to pay as much federal tax as the people in Kentucky or Ohio since we got such a big local tax.

Well that's their fault.

It is their fault.

And my question is why should somebody in Kentucky pay a bigger portion of their income for the national defense to fund the national defense than somebody in New York does. Just because the governor or the local officials in New York are taxing the crap out of you or California, you shouldn't pay different.

We should all be paying for the national defense.

You shouldn't get out of that obligation just because you live in a high tax blue state. But you've got Republicans up here arguing that they should get that deduction that's been put in this big, beautiful bill. So there's a grab bag of goodies in here. There's tax cuts for everybody. Normally, I'm for any tax.

Cut that we can get.

The problem is there's only one mechanism that's left to us now that they're not doing the recisions. The only other mechanism to cut spending with only fifty one votes in the Senate is the Big Beautiful Bill. It's called Reconciliation Bill. And they're not cutting spending. They are increasing spending. Now, is it things I would spend money on? Yeah, the military, the wall, there's some you know, a dome. They're saying, a golden dome for the United States. My question is,

But not only does it do that, it's going to send a signal to the bond.

Markets and sovereign wealth funds from other countries that we're not serious about attacking our school issues or addressing them. And they're going to say, you know what, four percent, five percent, that's not enough. We're going to need six percent if we're going to buy your debt. So you're going to take the legacy debt we have and as you so aptly you know, estimated a trillion dollars of interest in the last year payments, that's going to go to one and a half trillion something pretty soon.

Well, and at some point you know that it's going to result in the collapse of the FIA currency because we're gonna get to the point where we can't afford to pay that that service. I mean correct, that's the trajectory we are on right now. It's like they're fiddling while Rome is burning. It's like, well, screw it, it's on fire. There's nothing we can do. We may as well have a party and go on to spending spree.

And here's another thing.

People say, oh, I agree with Massia on everything except some of his foreign policy, and he should be voting on these sanctions and he doesn't vote for sanctions. Guess what, folks, those sanctions are Every time we tell another country that you can't trade in US dollars, we're.

Actually damaging quite a.

Quite a nice little scam the US government's got, which is when we print money, as long as Iran and Russia are using US dollars, they have to hold US dollars and we dilute them with inflation. Now, when we tell them you can't use US dollars to transact in a global economy, we are we're basic taking ourselves further and further away from being the standard, the worldwide standard

Will go up because there'll be fewer bidders for our debt. They're they're going to say, we're, well, you didn't let us hold US dollars.

We're going to go to bricks or one of these other you know, international standards for currency, and we don't need the dollar and then quit holding dollars. We can't dilute their holdings and we and you know, print our way out of this problem. Not that not that I'm saying that's a good thing. I'm just explaining how it works right now and why it hasn't collapsed already.

Right Well, I mean this is something that every politician, elected official I think probably stands to some degree, although we do have some morons in Congress who think, you know, guamkan capsize. But but that's what bothers me so much about. You know, Okay, everybody needs to cut but me in my state, and you know, I have corn farmers. Therefore, I want the ethanol subs that to remain in place, which is burning food in our engines, which is just dumb.

When you dedicate hundreds of thousands of acres in your state to growing corn for ethanol, you were raising the least price of that land that somebody would use to grow some other kind of food, or diverting corn that would go into the food supply into some other thing, and you're raising the price of it.

That's why farmers like ethanol. It raises the price of corn.

The problem is it's not a natural market demand for that. There's a certain amount of ethanol that you can put into gas lane to improve the nock grating, but once you get past a certain amount, and oh, by the way.

It reduces your gas mode, it does.

It burns out your rubber diaphragms and your chainsaw carbon.

Yeah, you can't use it as those small engine like for a two cycle for example.

Yeah, what if the cost of all that was known ethotol would be an even worse deal. But we shouldn't be subsidizing, And you're right, I was going to protest earlier when you said you got these blue state Republicans who want this, or that you got some red state Republicans you do want those ethanols. And they're from Iowa

Well, let the free market. And you know that's another reason all of the the Green New Deal programs should be repealed. Any subsidies going to a battery farm, wind farm, solar panel farm, whatever it happens to be, should be repealed, period, end of story.

They're not in the market demand.

If if if the market demanded them, there would be business and industry out there willing to create and build them because people want them. This is something that's been foisted on us.

I've had two groups of lobbyists and they represent people in Kentucky, which is why I let them in my office. Okay, two different companies who because of Biden's and AOC's Green New Deal when they got it codified into the Inflation Reduction Act, which is irony and ironic. It didn't reduce inflation. But because they said we're going to subsidize these battery plants, people made business decisions to expand in Ohio and Kentucky and Indiana. And so I've got people from Kentucky, two

We made business decisions.

And my thought is you should make business decisions based on things that make financial sense, not because of some government subsidies. And this is the risk you run when you think Joe Biden's going to get a second term, so you double down on the on the non since.

You made a Oh look, you made a few business decisions.

Sucks to be you.

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At about KRC City Talk station. By time was the Congressman Thomas Massy going over the reconciliation Processor. Congressm Massy, I guess I got to ask you the direct question, so I know the House can can cannot afford to lose many people to a no vote on this. It's going to get shot down in flames given the margins, and I guess Speaker Johnson is against it. He came out with an op ed open letter to the public about why he's not in favor because it doesn't cut enough.

I'm not Speaker Ron Johnson.

Ron Senator Ron Senator, Senator Johnson. I apologize for that, but easy mistake to make. But Speaker Johnson's all in on the on this thing.

Okay, Yeah, it's Ron Johnson, the Senator, and they don't, like you said, they don't have much margin over there. I don't think Rand Paul's going to vote for it because it also increases the that.

Limit by four trillion dollars.

Yeah, so where are you on it?

I'm a no right now.

That's kind of the way I figured, but I had to ask the question directly, so the tentative, No.

There were we voted on two things already. That first vote was a framework, a budget framework. It wasn't this bill. It just set up the conditions for this bill, and there were no guarantees that it was going to reduce the deficit. So I was the only republic and know and I say that the Freedom Caucus got half pregnant because they all voted for that framework, saying it's going to get better and denying that they were pregnant when they voted for that thing. Then the Senate sent over

This thing better reduced the deficit.

So they got three quarters pregnant when they voted for the second framework, and it was myself and Victoria Sparts were the only nos on that. And now this is here. The chickens are coming home to roost. This is the final bill. And I think you've got conservatives who are really torn. I think they're fully pregnant at this point. I think they're going to have to vote for this because they're worried about the president and other things. They don't want to go to their voters and say this

But as Donald Trump's demonstrated, we don't need any more wall to stop the influx of humanity from coming across the border. He flipped the switch and it's stopped.

And I know I'm not I'm not going to weigh in on that. I mean, but it's done a great job.

But it's a mere fraction of what's in this bill in terms of correct It doesn't.

In the TeV ads.

That's right, but you don't get to you don't get to defend the there's going to be tv.

Ads, and so I know what they're going through. I've been through it before.

Look, every bill you vote against, every omnibus bill you vote against, probably has a pay raise for soldiers in it. And so they run ads back home saying you voted against the pay raise for soldiers. They don't tell you the rest of the bill is bankrupting the country and that you would have gladly given a pay raise to soldiers if it had been a separate vote on a separate bill.

And so there's so much stuff.

In this big, beautiful bill that I think people are good, stuff that people are afraid and if they vote against it because it's fiscally irresponsible. I mean, this is the most fiscally irresponsible thing you can do, Brian. It is to increase spending by hundreds of billions of dollars and cut taxes by trillions of dollars over the next ten years.

It is not fiscally responsible.

Well that's why I say, rip the band aid off and suck it up. If they run against you on these little tiny fractions of part of the bill and they're successful at it, fine, they're successful at it. But the meantime, you did the right thing on behalf of the American people and save the country from itself, which is a bunch of politicians who are worried about having a single issue add impacting the potential for them to get re elected. I mean, it's the writing on the walls there.

But here's my take. Voters are adults.

I think if you have an adult conversation with your voters and explain all of your votes like I try to do, and tell people what's really in these bills, that they will send you back to Congress because you've developed a level of trust. And that is what I

There you go, and that's why you keep getting re elected.

Congress and Thomas MESSI, you speaking truth to power right there here on the fifty five Casey Morning Show. Congresson MESSI always enjoy having you on, appreciate your willingness to be open and honest with your constituents, and my listening audience and the vast majority of which really truly appreciates what you're doing. So keep up the great work, my friend. I'll look forward, as I always do, to having you back on the program real soon.

Thanks brother Tail. To Judge, I said, Hi.

I'll do it, sir, I will do it. Take care.

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