Jashi A seven to twenty nine. If you've got KRC detalk station, Happy Wednesday listener, lunch Saunder Brewery's Westchester location, and welcome back from Americans for Prosperity, Donov and Neil. It's always a pleasure for having you on the program, my friend, Brian, always great to be with you. So Americans for Prosperity pushing to renew the Trump tax cuts,
that's certainly something that's good for all of us. And I hate the way the left tries to spin this like this is just cut tax cuts for evil corporations. You know, the middle class doesn't get anything. Well, that's just not true. No, it's not.
We've even seen some some folks on the right sort of begin to embrace those ideas and say, maybe we should raise taxes just a little bit on the wealthiest in our country, and maybe that'd be okay. But we've seen that song and dance play out before, haven't we, Brian in the early nineties, Good god, yes, George W. Bush.
So voters were really clear last November right four years of bidenomic senspation, green energy New Deal subsidies that provided hidden taxes on Americans, they rejected the tax and spend policies that the progressive Democrats like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden put on this country. And they want to make permanent the Trump tax cuts that were originally enacted in twenty seventeen. And so that's what we're holding folks too, and driving towards. And the operative words in that sentence
you just made. You just said permanent, make permanent. It just really just Franklin and I use the words pisses me off. When they know they impact tax policy, but they only do it for ten years or five years or whatever. It forces you to have to go back and do something over again or unring a bell or like now to try to enshrine them and make them permanent. That'll force some future Congress, thankfully making them permanent. The lower tax cuts, that'll force some future Congress to actually
have to vote to raise our income tax. Not a very popular thing to do, no, And I think that's the theory of it, right. It's like, hey, we can get a really good fiscal note right, the Congressional Budget Office, your listeners probably hear this, right, It'll say this legislation is going to cost x amount of dollars or impact revenue by x amount of dollars. But here's the deal, it's consistently wrong. We just had Representative Lisa McClain join
our team in DC for a discussion around this. She's the conference chair, and what she was talking about as well is, you know, they get these numbers wrong because it doesn't account for some of the dynamic aspects of what happens in the economy right when you lower taxes. Yeah, on one hand, you can say, over the next ten years, lowering taxes is going to impact the national federal revenue
by several billions of dollars. But what you're not accounting for is where those billions of dollars are going, right when back into the economy reinvested and we see the growth that occurs when more people get to keep more of their hard ear and money. So I think lawmakers beginning to get dialed into hey, CBO is helpful. But the fact that the Congressional Budget Office oftentimes gets this wrong.
We're going to forge ahead because we know good policy equals politics, and that's what folks on us here to do.
Well, it's an excellent point you make that that money is in fact reinvested, that employees actually get the benefit of it. Quite often that businesses expand when you don't take their money away from them. So that's the one side the economic activity that's created by allowing us to spend the way we want to spend our money. You know, it goes for buying goods and services and purchases, which
further expands the economy. All that is good, and yet look at the other side of the coin on that Donovan, What do they do with the money they take from us? How efficient is Washington d C. With the spending of our earned dollars that they steal from us? Look at what doge is uncovered. Granted it's only just a tiny slice of the entire revenue stream that comes out of Washington. But you know, paying for transgender mice research or whatever.
I don't care, pick up your favorite ridiculous thing that DOGE pointed out, that's what they're doing with it. Funding green energy subsidies. Subsidies are needed when the demand is not there for the products and the energy generation that we normally would pursue. The market forces are ignored when you get incentives, and it gets people to do stuff they won't do. That's on our backs, and it's never
enough money. Look how I mean, we're in the whole thirty seven trillion dollars almost, and they just continue to spend way beyond what they take in. I mean, it's just insulting and I wish more people. I mean, we quit playing that class warfare game on the left and EEL Corporation elel olive, evil billionaires, blah blah blah blah blah. Oh shut up, you know, just look what they're doing with your tax dollars. You hate the size of the
American military budget, so do why trillion dollars annually? I guarantee you that's filled with fraud, wasted abuse that could be ferreted out. They can't even pass an audit. And they can't even pass an audit. Now, I love the American military, and I salute the American veterans every single day and active duty service folks, But tell me they need a trillion dollars. Come on, find a waste. You guys waste money all the time. We shouldn't reward them
with taking more of our money. Donovan, thank you for letting me vent my lean.
I love it, and I think we need more of that righteous indignation, right, and we hear it out there on the doors and in the communities and at the events we do talking about this because people are frustrated, right they they they're taxed a lot. And I think a lot of folks are fairly reasonable, right They understand. We need roads, we want police, we want fire, we want good schools, we want you know, we want national defense.
But then you begin to look at the you know, the spotlight that the Biben or the Trump administration is putting on through the Department of Government Efficiency, doge the fraud, waste and abuse happening in our federal government, and folks get mad. And then to hear to have folks even saying, hey, maybe we should raise taxes just a little bit on
some you know, just sends people into a tailspin. We don't need to be doing that, Brian, Right, We need to We need to see our federal government operate more efficiently so that it can deliver the services as people who need it better, while also making sure that people Americans like you and I get to keep more of our heart paychecks rather than sending you know, twenty two percent of our paycheck on the marginal tax brackets out to Washington, d C. To be burned, you know, in
some unknown program that's not getting any results or really serving any public good.
I tell you what, I'll hold you over, Donna, because then you're goin to what. Oh that's right, I got the clamor cunty veteran services coming up. So I won't hold you over, just take you for an extra minute or two, your Donovan. I guess. I'm just kind of wildly curious to know what your guess is as to where this opposition to what Doge is doing is coming from. Is that this small, really really squeaky wheel gets the greased,
loud leftist class that's doing that. Because how could any even you know, middle or even I would say even left to the spectrum democrat disagree with that the of the realities. How could they argue that getting rid of dead people off the Social Security active roles is a bad thing. It's just demonized, demonized, demonized, and it doesn't make any sense when you look at it from a logical and reasonable perspective, which I guess they're not now.
And I think what they're looking for their grasping a draws in a lot of ways, I feel like trying to find areas of controversy, and then some of that gets fueled by filect traditional media outlets who also want to fuel that controversy. But the reality is like when you talk to an average person, Yeah, you get a bar or restaurant wherever, and you talk about that social security example, they get it. People get it, and so it's consistently a messaging war, right where you have to
get out there and kind of combat that. So, yeah, squeaky wheel gets the grease. But then I think some of that squeaky wheel gets amplified by folks who have an agenda to push. At the end of the day, this is what we should be seeing. Both Democrats and Republicans should be doing this kind of stuff, right, shining a light on inefficiencies in our government so that it can deliver better services with the dollars we give it all.
Right, what's the website we need to turn to to get involved?
Donald and Neil get into crunch time on the tax cuts and jobs that go to protect prosperity dot com. Protect prosperity dot com. We're gonna have a number of events coming up here in the coming weeks. I'll be back on the show to give your listeners an update on how they can get active in south West Ohio.
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