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death and they're over the ruin apartment. Apparently he was quite the you know, business man, opened his own fitness business and friend of the community by all rights, just a really terrific person. She's been an outspoken critic of well, the City of Sincinnate generally speaking, law enforcement, you know, demanding changes and the way we I guess enforced the law and crime and everything else that's going on the city of Cincinnati. While the mayor of the City Cincinnati, uh, well,

I don't know, you can evaluate his priorities. We will talk about that here in a moment. Whether he has properly prioritized his home life versus his obligations and duties as mayor of the City of Cincinnati during times of a significant crisis, which apparently we're currently dealing with here, and a crisis that has made the headlines globally. Yeah. Anyway, Sarah for a full hour in studio at seven five, followed by Secretary of State franklo Rose just got back

from meeting with Trump regarding election integrity. Of course, as second Orry State, that'd be a role that Frank leros Haes got. We'll talk about that at atoh five. Jay Ratliffe, I Heart Media aviation expert, will also be on the program as he always is on Thursdays. At eight thirty, passenger evacuated from an aircraft when the tires had caught on fire. Saw the video of that one Wow. Delta Airlines pilot arrested shortly after the flight in landed in

San Francisco. Kind of an interesting story that one United flight attendants reject a new contract and a twenty six percent pay raise. Joe, you get twenty six percent pay raise every year, don't you? Yeah? Every six months? Oh, that's right. They put you on the fast track schedule, just trecord, just wallowing in cash. That's one of the main reasons he has to work three jobs. And of

course we always end up with hub delays. With Jay Ratloll find out if it's a decent data travel five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phone. Maybe you'd like to call in. I'd love talking with folks, as it always is. And remember fifty five Casey dot com. That's where you get the iHeartMedia radio app or app. You can listen to the content wherever you happen to be.

Clairemont County Prosecutor Mark to call you on the program the tail end of the show yesterday, there is a special place in hell for Charlie Tettererman who's been convicted ninety three felony counts for molesting a teenage girl. He had a story details on that I mentioned yesterday when I was talking with Mark and the prosecutor, the assistant prosecutor who was responsible for the trial. That just brings

bile up in the back of my throat. He videotaped every single one of his molestations, And I was puzzled by that because they showed every single one of the videos to the jury. And when I asked the assistant prosecutor about that, it's like, you know, the idea of being a juror and having to sit through that, you know, from a dividensiary standpoint, is it necessary? Because you know the victim was in court, the victim was cross examined by Charlie Fetterman, the guy that's got a special place

in hell, the molester, the convicted molester. He represented himself a trial, which means he stood in front of her and asked her questions about it. Can you imagine? I think they said she was about fifteen sixteen years old when this molestations occurred. Can you imagine the vile, disgusting creature that molested you over and over again, despite your objections and protestations repeated, from what I understand, staring in front of you in a courtroom full of people, in

twelve jurors, asking you questions about it. I just can't imagine the horror. But sentencing day coming up for Charlie Thennaman, and I am anxiously awaiting his being sentenced to four hundred and fifty years in prison, which, based upon the convictions, is what he's eligible for. So good luck, Charlie. They love child molesters in prison, love to point that out over and over again because somewhere in the listening audience, and I hate to acknowledge this, but you know what, Statistically,

it's probably true. There is a person out there that is presently involved in molesting a young person. And to you, I am speaking, You're going to get caught, and the hell that you will face once in prison is beyond your wildest imagination. That's been the case, well documented for decades and decades. Good luck, Judge entereda Paula Tano not I tell you what. You listen to that one, and

I think he is probably right on the wall. Sometimes we'll disagree, and sometimes my listeners say, I don't believe it, ken Trump, It just randomly and unilaterally issued tariffs and pick and choose the amount of tariffs and just say them out loud and make them happen. Or is that the authority that rests within the Congress under the Constitution, And the latter argument is probably going to prevail. That's what the lower court said. Already it's on the appeals court.

I think the argument is today, So yeah, it does impact foreign policy. But because tariffs translates to taxation, that's a power that rests exclusively with the legislative brands, the power of the purse. So the aftermath if the court does say that he doesn't have these powers and that it is a tax and that he is who served congressional authority by unilaterally levying taxes, it's going to be I think I described it as a Charlie foxtrot. I had an exchange with one of my listeners about this.

Everything that he's done, all the work that he's done to negotiate these trades deals with the various countries are going to be whipped wiped away, and that's going to be a mess, a real mess. So anyway, that's where we are. So wait a minute, where was the mayor? I know a lot of people were criticizing that in the aftermath of the the beatdown over the past weekend. Saturday morning, we've been talking about it a lot this week.

Of course, it's dominating global news. Congratulations, multiple multiple articles, notably Councilwoman Parks, who said she was happy and that they suggesting that the victims begged for the beat down. That's made it nationally globally. Congratulations Victoria Parks. I know you're not running for re election, and I guess it's a good thing because she previously announced she was not going to be running for a future office. That's a good thing. Go retire because you haven't put yourself or

endeared yourself to well anyone with your comments. But that's being widely reported all over this great land of ours. But where was the mayor question? A lot of people have been asking, because we didn't hear from him for a couple of days after the tragedy. Purval, mayor Aftab was in Vancouver on a long planned family vacation. Now he was at a mayoral conference, but you know what he got from got back from that apparently the day

before the beatdown. Purval said he found out about the fight before he left for his Vancouver family vacation on July twenty six. He found out about the fight. Let me emphasize that before he left, speaking to Cincinnati inquire Scott Wartman reporting Parlol decided to take the trip, he said, because it was the last time he could take a family vacation before his five year old son started kindergarten

and Cincinnati City Council resumes next week after the summer recess. Quote, this was a long planned family trip and celebration of my son. I take my role as mayor very seriously. But I also take my role as husband and father seriously as well. Now I'll concede family comes first. Family

comes first. But he's flying back today, saying he cut his vacation four days short to arrive back in Cincinnati tonight, originally planning to come back August fourth, and he said he will be making an announcement tomorrow about how the city will combat crime and address public safety concerns. Didn't reveal any more details ahead of the announcement. Apparently probably doesn't have any details. What can he possibly say is going to magically come up with a solution to combat

crime and address public safety overnight. We'll see. But I'm struggling to reconcile that he knew about this viral video. He knew about the fight the beat down before he left for his trip. Now he didn't have an opportunity to make some kind of statement. I'm aware of the incident. I criticize it. It's that what I've seen, it's inexcusable, it's unacceptable. This is not human behavior, this is animalistic behavior. Pick some words, put them together in the string of sentences.

I would love to address this, but I've got a long standing family trip. My son's getting ready to go back to school. I'll be in constant communication with the elected officials. I am on the job in spite of the fact that I'm not on the job. And hell, I'll even participate in a video conference that two days after because people want to hear from me, which is exactly what he did. So he's on vacation, he has an opportunity to get online and participate in a video conference.

All right, you can draw your own conclusion, say you read the right decision going to the family vacation first, but with the chaos that ensued, this is a I mean and again, it's a viral thing. It's gone out over the entire world. Couldn't you have delayed the departure for your family vacation by a couple of days to address this. Get all your ducks in a row, make the meetings, plan the meetings, head on off the vacation. Rather than cut the tail into the vacation off. I

don't know. It's easy for me to second guest mayor, Aftab provol I guess given the current circumstances, but like, where's Waldo? Where's the mayor? In the several days following the beatdown, in all the social media comments and the fact that it went viral across this country, Oh okay,

he's in Vancouver. Maybe his office should have issued an announcement to that effect while we all stood around, I mean even Corey Bowman's like he asked out loud the very question where's the mayor on his social media account the following day, no one apparently knew would have been nice to keep us in the loop there, Aftab. We are in a moment in time that requires strong leadership. My listening audience decided whether we have strong leadership here

in the city of Cincinnati. Steve hang on, brother, I just looked up and saw you on the line. I'll be more than happy to take your call, but I am out of time. In the segment, actually over, It's five eighteen fifty five kr C detalk station.

Joe wanted to know what's in Vancouver. I suggested there were trees there British Columbia. But sorry, son, we're not gonna be going to Vancouver. I got to delay the trip a couple of days because the city is on fire and I've got a job to do as the mayor. Should the kid be like, oh okay, he just said he should have taken him to chuck e cheese probably would have been happier. Steve, Thank you so much for indulging me while I got that out of my system.

And for holding over the break. Welcome to the morning show.

Just plug away, you know, a punch of time clock whatever. He doesn't. He's not a leader, but he is in a leadership position. That's why he is silent. That's why when he says something, it's through zoom, it's something pre recorded. He doesn't know what to do. He thinks it'll go away. He's a DEM's he's looking for his next step up. This is just a temporary job for him. He's trying to move up. If Harris had been elected, he had been Washington, DC doing something right now. He has no

leadership skills. It is an obligation of anybody in a position like that to post a schedule. You don't need to say we're staying at my mother in law's house or this hotel or whatever. To say we're on a family vacation, we're leaving this day, we're coming back that day. You make that public. Here's another figure that did this quite a few years ago, when she was Speaker of the House. Nancy Pelosi became ill in the Vatican Rome, Italy, and she became ill, and we flew her back here

or whatever. Nobody knew she was even there, at taxpayer expense. She takes vacations all over the place. They should have to publicize vacations they're taking. They should have to indicate. Now, this one, I'm sure is out of his own wallet, but public officials should have to indicate, I am on a taxpayer funded trip to Vaticans whatever. But the only reason we ever found out that she was there is because she got sick. Otherwise we wouldn't have known she was sucking money.

aforementioned concerns we all have now. But the reason I haven't done anything is because I'm out of town. I'm sorry, I apologize, but you got to issue a statement of some sort. That's what leaders do. I'm not absent, I'm on the job, I'm paying attention, I'm talking with people, but I am on vacation, which is why I'm not standing in front of the population of the city of Cincinnati in a meeting, in a press conference answering questions.

I'm in Vancouver. But I think the most troubling component of this thing is he left for his family vacation sometime later in the day, the day of the beatdown, which had already gone viral. The silence is under those circumstances, the silence is particularly deafening. Five point twenty six. Right now, local stories or phone calls. Maybe Tom will call in. I don't know, but I love talking to people, so feel free to chime in and offer your opinion on these matters. I'll be right back.

who plied to a vice, city officials, community leaders, and any of the victims from Friday's assault wh wish to participate. When people feel afraid to speak their minds, that's when frustration festers and we can't let that happen. Open dialogue is the way forward, as we demonstrated in Springfield last fall. Ill announce further details later this week. So soon as we get the details on where and the when, and I'm more than happy to pass along to the listening audience.

You can feel free to show up, he Jo. You think, may I have to have purvall show up to that one? They doubt it. It's on the west side, that's the rumor. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the no on that one. You don't think he knows where the west side is? Five point thirty five fifty five care see the talk station. I do have some stupid stories, but you know, again, doesn't it kind of feel like we're already in the stack?

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right on top of the stack of stupid. A color photograph of the video the giant JumboTron video screen at the Great American Ballpark with a photograph of community activist Iris Rawley, who was given the Community Advocate Award by the Cincinnati Reds. This on the heels of her face on her online post regarding the beatdown. He deserved it, all of it. Note some follow up reporting on this

one from Fox nineteen. Apparently they are on Facebook to wing a podcast the other day she along with the NAAC president David Whitehead, who also suggested that the folks who got the beat deserved it. He tried he was backpedaling,

of course, and so was Iris Wally. We were having a contentious banter back and forth, she said when she posted he deserved it, all of it, which the vast majority of people with clear thinking heads, logic and reasoning skills took to be directed at, of course the man who was beaten, or both of the people who were beaten. But she did say he She tried to backpedal and said that he that I'm referring to is Andre Ewing, the former CINCINNT police officer. Andre was on the program

last week Tuesday. This week actually outspoken community activist Andre Ewing. He had a lot of things to say, including don't go downtown when having large events, so she's trying to backpedal her way out of it. And congratulations for winning the Community Advocate Award whatever, Thank you, Liam. Wow do you think they had decided to give that award out before the brawl over the weekend her online post or do you think this was a decision that was made

after she stepped in it? That's where Joe's going. Why would the reds endeavor to bolster her credibility in the aftermath of a ridiculous statement like that? Talk amongst yourselves, you come up with an answer. Please let me know. Another stupid h the smoking gun. They provide some good material for the stack of stupid married couple facing felony

charges after they joined the Mile High Club. On a Jet Blue flight over the weekend, Tristan Riley forty two, and Christopher Arnold, forty three traveling to Sarasota, Florida, from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York when they allegedly engaged in what is described in the complaint as lude or lascivious exhibition. Flight attendant told police to quote several youths and their mother had witnessed Riley and Arnold performing in sexual performing sexual activity on board the Jet

Blue flight one p. Sixty three. Excuse me when the flight attendant guid damed Brian's upp walked to Miss Riley's seating area in the twenty fifth row. He witnessed her making up and down movements with her head while she was faced down on mister Arnold's lap. Joe, what do you think was going on there? Searching his pocket for you think a lozenge, maybe a chapstick, roll of life savers or something. And I can't even read the further description.

An investigation indicate of miss Riley was seen by two underads us performing well an oral act and well something involving her hand. Let's just leave it at that. The witness statement female pastor who was flying with her two children, said that during the takeoff, she spotted the woman later identified as Riley Yes, performing a physical act on her male companion. She noted, this is a quote from the passengers. She noticed my two kids was watching them, and they

didn't stop after that. She was laying on him as if she was performing this particular oral act. Riley described as a medical receptionist, Arnold, a general contractor. Rested upon the July nineteenth flight's arrival in Sarasota. The two live in Danbury, Connecticut, were booked into the County jail Freedom Monday, Prosecutors agreed to the couple's release on their own recognizance

while they investigate jurisdiction. Jurisdiction becoming a question because I guess they were flying over multiple states on their trip. You know how long it is a flight of that? I mean, what is that?

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We have radioactive wasps found near a nuclear facility in South Carolina. What quarter report from the hous to part of Energy But July third, radiological control operations discovered a wasp nest on a post near a tank at the Savannah River site and Aiken, South Carolina. Officials say the s was sprayed to kill The wasp nest probed and discovered to be to be one hundred thousand dpm, which is a measurement for radioactivity described as moderately high level

of radiation once wasponest is considered. Quote on site legacy radioactive content amination close quote not related to a loss of containment control legacy radioactive contamination lingering radioactivity contamination resulting from past activities. Department of Energy did not list any other cause for the insects contamination, waspkilled bagged as radiological waste. Officer said the ground and surrounding area did not have

any contamination. Okay. A Louisiana woman rather New Orleans facing felony charges after the state Attorney General's officer suden she fraudulently obtained medicaid benefits while generating millions in business revenue. Ah Yes, thirty five year old Cannice tailor arrested Monday

by Louisiana Bureau of Investigation Court of the Records. Investigations started with a complaint from Louisiana Department of Health alleging that she committed Medicaid recipient fraud by underreporting her income. They say she applied for Medicaid in twenty nineteen under an alias can and This Sailor, listing biweekly income of

nineteen hundred dollars and no dependence. That application denied less than a year later, though she reapplied using the same alias and inconsistent information, and then between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, she's accused of misrepresenting, concealing, and failing to disclose financial information in order to receive government healthcare assistance.

During that time, they say her various businesses generated more than nine and a half million dollars in revenue across multiple accounts that were under her control, and despite claiming

no income at all. In twenty twenty, they say her financial records show more than four hundred and eighty thousand dollars in deposits, including luxury expenders expenditures over forty five grand in vehicle payments to Audi Finance, multiple six figure cashiers checks used for property purchases, cosmetic surgery, and high end jewelry, which also reportedly wired one hundred thousand dollars to an exotic car dealership and made thirteen thousand dollars

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she clearly had absolutely no need for them. What the hell? Oh, oh, let's go to Japan as opposed to Vancouver. Joe, that was my microphone falling off of the stand, Folks. I've been having struggles with this. I don't want to say it's been sabotaged, but the little nut that holds a microphone on the stand just happens to sort of work its way out throughout the day. All I'm constantly tightening

this thing, so apologies for that crash was certainly unintended. Quickly, though, Let's go to japan authorities on highlightight after up to sixteen thousand plastic toy guns used as prizes in claw machines across the country were determined to be able to fire live ammunition. National Policy Agency issue of warning that thousands of illegal firearms are being offered as prizes at

claw machines around the Asian country. Authorities scrambling to get a recall out the real gimmick mini revolver imported Japan from China's crane for these crane games. The brightly colored plastic toy seems harmless. Its technical specifications suggested that it was capable of being used however, as an actual firearm comes with eight plastic bullets that can be used to paying various objects, But the NPA found that the gun could also potentially be used to fire live ammunition. Is

that a design defect? Five six fifty five kerr ce de talk station or an intentional use of the mechanics of the firearm. Jay, take your call right out of the gate. We get back, got to take a run here. We'll do some local news and some national news, maybe edited by Joe Strecker, depending upon content. But I'll be right back Today's.

changing the realities of the city of Cincinnati. Of course, on the heels of the weekend violence. It's got a very important message passed along. Should be in studio coming up in an hour for a full hour. So God bless her and thank her for trying to do something. A lot of people's experience tragedy, and you know, they just wallow in misery, and I understand that on some level, and others kind of like they're not going to stand for this and they want to do something to change it.

So it's something somebody else doesn't experience the same thing, and that's the path that Sarah has taken. God bless her for it. Eight o five Secretary of State Frank LeRose just got back with a meeting from with Donald Trump regarding election integrity. We'll hear from Frank at eight five. Jay Ratlife, I heard media aviation expert every Thursday at eight thirty. Quite a few topics talk about with Jay, as is typically the case, so let us head over

to the phones. Jay, thank you so much for holding. Welcome to the program. Good to hear from you today.

the nation with medicaid fraud. And he sat beside the guy who owns it. He didn't known it. I Housta didn't known it, but his boss did. That Medicaid department in Ohio rolls up directly under the wine. And as Jennifer Gross pointed out in a podcast maybe a few months ago that there was money going into Ohio conference for every able bodied person that we can get on medicaid.

a medical it's like a zero sum game. We don't get anything from it except expanding a social welfare program.

than follow the money. So there was a deal that there was, there was some payment going into state coffers, and they sold their soul and their conservative values whenever they found out that they were getting going to get federal money. So you and I agree that it comes that's left pocket, right pocket. We paid the the Feds take it, and they give a few dimes back to

the states. Well, if you're the CEO of the state, you really don't care because you've got stuff and things in your next election that you're running for and to help with the people, the the citizens of Ohio or whatever state you're running. It's all about me, and therein lies the problem.

back and listen to it. Or better yet, if she's listening, would be great if she call in and straighten us out on this. But she laid it out in clear terms that there was a financial upside, but they're real causes. Whenever the states became the whores and the federal government became the pimp. This is the type of behavior that

the founding fathers were scared to death of. And it doesn't seem like there's any push to make states great again and get the federal government into a much smaller role. And until we do that, this sort of shady, scummy behavior will continue. It doesn't matter if it's a D or an R sitting in the governor's mansions of red states.

It's one of those things where there's not And I'm saying this knowing full well this flies in the face of everything I stand for. There aren't enough people in government to monitor it. It's like you need a massive, million person accounting firm that can micro manage the propriety of any given claim under medicaid, and there's just not the ability to do that. And people realize that, and so like, listen, they're not minding the store. I'm going to sign up for it, even though I make millions

of dollars a year. Why not give it a shot. Everybody else is doing it. They don't know what's going on.

to take care of this. We're seeing now the Columbus is starting to talk about we're going to have to really trim up our budgets and we're really going to have to start doing something different here that's property tax, but that's also that sweet medicaid fraud money is going to start drying up, and that is going to cause a big problem in states that have been living off that, like Ohio. But anyways, the point is that Houston had a point to say that, hey, we're guilty, we were

part of it. He dodged that, unfortunately for him. Yeah, anyways, have a good.

be a budget line item. Somebody's going to have to carve away funding from some other area of government funding in order to account for the additional money we might have to pay out. Just speculating I currently do. It's like, I have no idea how we're going to take care of that. But again, giant government programs equal in all cases,

a lot of fraud, waste and abuse. Six fifteen fifty five kr CD talk station, chime in Feel three five, one, three, seven, four, nine fifty eight hundred eighty two to three talk suspects in the other day, the ones from the beat down over the weekend. Interesting arguments from their defense counsel. See if you buy into that, we got a lot more going on. And then Sarah hearing Herringer coming up at seven oh five. First though, a great product. You're gonna

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She has got eight an amazing black eye, bruised cheeks, swollen lips. Just man, I pray for her. I hope she's gonna recover and isn't learn any long term problems. But Christopher Smith been demanding the resignation of Victoria Parks. It's interesting because since any inquirer reached out to her because of that statement begged for that beat down, she's

drawing her own conclusions before all the evidence is in. So, according to the reporting from Scott Warburn to the inquiry, Parks did not respond to multiple messages Wednesday seeking comment. Park's office in Cincinny City Hall was dark and the door was locked on Wednesday afternoon. When the inquiry reporter knocked, there was no answer. She's currently Mia much in the way the mayor have to have. Purvall was mi Ia until he announced yesterday that, oh, by the way, I

was in town Saturday. Yeah, I was back for my mayor's conference in Cleveland that I was there at on Friday. Got back Friday evening. I guess he was in town Saturday morning. In spite of the fact that the video had already gone viral, he went ahead and went on vacation with his family to Vancouver. Yeah, and he said since any choire Scott Warman talked to him. Purvoll said he found out about the fight before he left for

his trip on July twenty sixth. Now, Joe's been critical that he's now standing behind his five year old child talking about family needs. My five year old son. This is all about my five year old kids going off to kindergarten. We didn't want to break up this family trip to Vancouver, British Columbia. But my criticisman you could have said something before you left Eric's statement condemning the violins or whatever. I mean, It's not that difficult to do.

Have one of your minions do it for you, prepare a statement for you, I'm heading off to the airport with my family. Would you do me a favor and say the mayor is aware of this. He he knows about it, He had a previous engagement. But he calls for qualm and quiet and an investigation and condemns the type of violence that he witnessed in the viral video. Whatever it would have done something. Instead we got nothing,

nothing at all. Three suspects arrested in charge for their involvement in that melee the beat down, had their first court appearance yesterday, and finally some actually genuine bonds. Montianez Merriweather,

five hundred thousand dollars, thirty four years old. I guess the curfew didn't apply to him, Joe, He's at a full grown adult, probably wasn't looking to borrow a red bike either, one count each felonious AsSalt, assault and aggravated rioting and five hundred grand again his bond to Kira Vernon two hundred thousand dollars bond on one count of

each filonius assault, assault and aggravated rioting. And then Jermaine Matthews, who turned himself in one hundred thousand dollars bond dkira Is twenty four and Jermaine thirty nine years old, charged with aggravated rioting and assault. Now, apparently during the arrangements the arrangements, prosecutors talking about Meriwether and Matthews accused them of coordinating the brawl. Since they please detect the testified quote. Ultimately, we do have on video mister Meriwether walking up to

co defendant W. Matthews. He whispers something to him, then walks behind the victim, describing the movements as an ambush their words, or in their words, a setup in a certain way. Detectives said, they chase him and they get him on the ground where they begin to punch and kick him on the ground. There's a there's a disengage.

Meriweather goes after another gentleman behind another car and then walks to the side and goes to the sidewalk, and there's the third assault occurring in the middle of the roadway. As to Meriwether's involvement in this, we believe he coordinated this with mister Matthews. He walked up to him on the video, whispered something to him, and then strategically placed himself behind the victim. As the assault began. Now his defense attorney said, no, no, no, no, this isn't the

coordinated attack. The man identified as the victim allegedly threw the first punch at Matthews after he was allegedly seen kicking his vehicle. Accord to the defense or, the Caucasian man then says, that's your car and slaps my client in the face. That person, the alleged victim in this case,

through the first punch. Did a melee occur thereafter, yes, But to say it was a coordinator attack that was the catalyst of what broke out, that is not true and the accurate picture of what broke out, well, I suppose the evidence will at least shake out in courts prosecutor's case. The detective is just relaying what he proceeds to be the case, and we'll see what happens as

it unfolds. But see, this does not address the ultimate problem here, which is the absolute outrageous of what I will call an understated way over reaction from the people in the original melee and then the crowd of people who decided to join in the beatdown. You can't wash this away. There is I don't care what the initial dispute is the fact that an entire crowd of people joined in the fun, if you want to jokingly refer to it as that is the real problem here and

the reason the whole case has gone viral. Do you think this thing would have made national headlines around the world if it was just a fight between two people over some stupid altercation or incident. He cooked my core? Okay, fine, you guys beat each other up, and one of you has gone to jail and the other hasn't or whatever. That's not what happened here. Six twenty seven fifty five Care sedtalk station, Chimneycare, fireplace and stove. Don't let your

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medical center they say with life threatening injuries. Officer responded to the hospital, please shut down Marringway until further notice. Pete Roseway and Central Avenue. They also blocked off a parking lot at least one vehicle as they investigate. That story is breaking. No additional information and I don't know whether the roads are still shut down. What could possibly be going right outside of pay Court Stadium At five o'clock in the morning. And why is there so much

violence right there in that particular area. I don't know. Just ask him out loud for a friend. Three kids in the hospital after being hit by a vehicle happened in Walnut Hills. According to SINCINNTI Fire Department Assistant Chief Matt Flagler speaking with Fox, nineteen kids, all younger than five years old, are unstable and thank god they do

not have life threatening injuries. Hit by a vehicle quarter to three in the afternoon Victory Parkway near the intersection of William Howard Taff Since My Police Department's Lieutenant John Cunningham, speaking with the News of the driver was fleeing the scene of a fight when he hit the kids. Driver not yet identified, currently in custody, according to Lieutenant Cunningham, that investigation also on going. Two teenagers have been arrested

in connection with the shooting left one man dead. In Springfield Township. Police said two sixteen year olds names not released, of course because of their age, charged with aggravated robbery and aggravated murder. Sixteen year olds that after officers in paramedics responded reports of a person shot inside a vehicle eleven thousand block a Brookway Drive, June ninth. Upon arrival, Springfield Township Police found Morgan Myers, who was twenty years

old at Claremont unconscious and unresponsive. They took him to Myers to a Mercy Fairfield Hospital, where he then was declared dead. After the investigation, police charged teen year old mail from hiv At a sixteen year old mail from Springfield Township determined the shooting occurred after an arranged drug

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by a driver in Coventant happened early yesterday morning. Please showed up the Highway Avenue in west of Spring Street five am. They found Sean Ewing with life threatening injuries. He was taking a UC Medical Center, where he died from the injuries. Coming to Police said the driver involved in the crash remained at the scene and fully cooperative

with investigators, and no criminal charges have been filed. Police speaking with WCPO said Ewing was not in a cross rock when he was hit, but investigators are still working and learn why he was in the road. Press release from Coming to Police mister Ewing's family has experienced a heartbreaking loss and we extend our deepest condolences as we continue working to provide them with answers. If you have any information, Covington Detectives would love to hear from you.

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percolating and brewing over years and years and years. You know, a forward thinking city council would not allow the numbers of the sincint Police Department to drop off as dramatically as they have, so they wouldn't have to pay multiple I guess millions, probably a dollars in overtime hours exhausted police officers. Of course, you know, we had all the problems because of the defund the police movement, Black Lives Matter, anti file all marching in the streets demanding that we

get rid of evil racist law enforcement. Of course, the city of Cincinnati being you know, run exclusively by Democrats, embracing that reality, never coming out in defense of the police department and low and behold, oh my god, you got a tragic thing like happened over the weekend, and

now they're all calling for strict law enforcement. Combating violence is our most urgent challenge, says Mayor after have Purvall, who decided to come back from Vancouver where he was on vacation, leaving for vacation after already being alerted to the fact that there was this brawl, this beatdown unfolding in the city of Cincinnati, left on Saturday. He didn't

tell you that. He didn't even leave a message. So with the limited resources we have in the city of Cincinnati, three count them, one two, three officers were available to deal with the entire district. Apparently that morning, Governor Mike DeWine, as well as what are described by Fox nineteen as local leaders, announced yesterday that the Ohio State Highway Patrol is now going to be providing manpower to help support

the CINCINNT Police Department. Pressolice. Governor of Wine announced that Ohio State Higway Patrol is now going to be providing sports to the City of Cincinnati. After the office that local authorities have requested the support amid quote recent instances of violence. Hey, contextually speaking, what does recent mean in that a lot of people concern the violence has been going on for quite some time, yet ignored by our elected officials. So anyway, recent instances of violence is going

to lead to additional support from Columbus. Assistance comes in the form, they say, of Ohio State Highway Patrol support with traffic enforcement, which would I guess is designed to free up other officers as well as a bunch of different resources from the Ohio State Highway Patrol Aviation Unit that apparently is going to in the words of the announcement, focus on supporting local violent crime reduction initiatives, criminal suspect

searches and vehicle pursuit aviation unit. Is that drones anyway? Purval quote. I want to express my deep appreciation to Governor Wine for his can continued leadership, his leadership anyway, and his assistance in our most important responsibility as a government, combatting violence, our most urgent challenge, and this coordination support from Ohio State from the State of Ohio assist our local law enforcement in ensuring the safety of all of

our residents. I'm extremely proud of our police officers for their diligence and exceptional service, and we will continue to be unrelenting in our support of their work. Now, we could have used a lot of the kind of statements like that in advance of this, and over and over again speaking to the residents of the city of Cincinnati that no, we're not going to defund the police. We're going to support them. We're going to do everything we

can to help improve the patrols in your neighborhood. We're going to do everything we have to increase police presence in your neighborhood because that's what you, as citizens really want. It's a urgent challenge, it's our it's one of the most important responsibilities as government. That's what he's saying. Now, anyway, let's gore to the phones. Andrew Pappus always appreciate when you call the morning show.

You know, family obligations. You say, hey, you guys, go ahead, I'll catch up with you.

down on her comments that the people deserve it. And I hope when everybody sees that comment on social media or an article, just post a picture of the poor woman Holly that that that are going run. It's a brutal photograph, but you know what you need to see. You know, you see her laying on the round, people are like, oh, look she's passed out. Oh I hope

she's better, you know whatever. But then you see her the aftermath and the bruising, the black eye, the bruise, lift, the bruce chest, and then you're like, wow, you know what this is? This is the dirty picture. I didn't want to see all that hurts me. It should, it should sicken you. And the third thing I'd like to say is, I know you mentioned it earlier. I'm stunned given what I've seen online from her comments, both about

this incident allegedly and also her prior comments. Cincinnati Reads last night chose to honor Iris Rally at the game. The Cincinnati Reds chose to honor this person that is seems to be I've heard described. I mean, Signal ninety nine on social media is doing a wonderful job documenting her history. And I will tell you I'm puzzled at the timing of that.

that are tearing this city apart. I mean, do you think that you know, for example, I mean, it's a kid to maybe a team somewhere right after the incidents with Kyle Rittenhouse having him it at center Field, will they do the same thing? I mean, possibly not. I mean, I'm just I'm stunned at this. I can't believe it. And the mayor has I don't know who appoints the people to the committee that she's on, but you know, the mayor. I've seen so many memes going around the

mayor fiddling while the city burns in the ground. I mean, that's exactly what's going on. Your mayor is absolutely demonstrating since a city mayor is demonstrating that he has nothing more than an empty suit, a pretty face that is simply not up to the job, because quite clearly he does not have the experience, whether it's in the business world or the public world, to run an entity of

this side. He can smile and take nice pictures all day long, and that's fine if that's what you want, but when you elect an empty suit to a position just on accolades and platitudes, when the rubber meets the road, you're gonna be severely lacking. And right now we are lacking, just glaringly. We are lacking any real leadership in this city. But I will say I'm very proud of my good friend Christopher Smitherman, who is going to now partner or co host on Monday, I believe.

leader of the NAACP. Our friend Christopher Smitherman is going to is going to be part of the you know, discussion on how where do we go from here? And I am so happy to call him my friend. I know he's a friend of the program. I know he's a personal friend of yours y and I am I that's the way forward, not these toxic people like Irish

Raleigh and the and the Cincinnati councilwoman. And and to be fair, Mayora does not provide a does not instill me any confidence that he is in any way capable of finding a way forward through this, other than you know, placing blame where it may not belong or throwing accusations. I mean, the mayor is simply it's simply a talking you know what he is. Actually, it's just occurred to me.

Have you ever watched the news program where you see a talking head talking about a news a news story, and you know they have absolutely no.

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eight thirty. In the meantime, I am honored, blessed to have in studio Sarah Herringer and apologies right out of the gates, Sarah, I have been saying herring jurror since your story broke June fourth, when she lost her husband to a horrific murder in their apartment over the Rhine. No need to do all the details on that, Sarah. I know you're still recovering from the aftermath of that.

But Sarah Herngerry, it is great heaving in city to talk about some of the problems that I mean, you obviously experienced the worst and most horrific of problems in what happened on June fourth. But as we were talking before the segment started, the idea of crime in over the Rhine, you've had plenty of experience with it. This isn't something new.

need a bigger police presence. You need apparently by all reports, three o'clock in the morning Saturday, when this is out three total officers available.

why this city has made a turnaround. Yes, they're you know, we can contribute model properties and three CDC with you know, developers as far as that goes, but they've given it back to the people and they've allowed for them to come in and have you know, that entrepreneurial spirit and everyone downtown they want to support local business. They don't want to go to chains. And that's the reason why we chose downtown is because it's like starting a business.

ultimately comes down to us, We've got to leave. We can't just keep investing in something that you don't protect and you don't honor the way that we've chosen to what can we do?

bad people. They're in fact, a wonderful organization that really is there to help you, and so we need to work with them. Let's establish relationships. The silence from the administration has been deafening along those lines until, like I'm surprised it didn't pop up right after June fourth, But in the aftermath of what happened on Saturday, now you're seeing even folks like AFT have Purval talk about crime being the most important thing we need to address and deal with.

and we'll have further cood discussion. She is in studio for the full hour and I can't thank her enough for stopping in and addressing these issues so important to every resident of the city of Cincinnat. At seven sixteen right now, we'll be right back on Colway.

sixty five, overnight rain moving out. Got a mostly sunny date tomorrow with the high of eighty nice overnight low of sixty one with clear skies, and Saturday is going to be partly sunny and also eighty degrees seventy four degrees. Right now, it's time for a traffic update, Chuck from the UCLP Traffic Center. You see Health Weight Loss Center off of Sergic going medical obesity. Hear an expertise called five one three nine three nine two two sixty three.

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on southbound fourth seventy one. Chuck Ingram on fifty five karras the talk station Yeah seven nineteen seven, twenty fifty five KERCD talk station Brian Thomas with Sarah Herringer Olido Patrick Herringer, who was tragically murdered on the fourth of June. This year in their apartment over the Rhine, and we're not going to dwell on that, but it's the predicate for her being on the program this morning, but also

the predicate for her I would say, wonderful activism. You have been an outspoken critic of the problems we're talking about here in the city of Cincinnati since that happened, and it's it's terrible that that had to lead to this, but I think you're doing a great job of elevating to everyone else's attention some of the big failures we have. I saw your post the other day about the judicial system, and you know, we're talking about that before the program began,

and that's one of the failures the judicial system. We have these you know, for one of a better term, you can call them what you want. I'm going to

say liberal judges. I think they've been convinced that the criminal justice system is somehow unfair and that for whatever reason, bonds are a bad thing and we shouldn't have cash bonds, and that meeting out justice for people who have actually been convicted or have you know, plead guilty or pled guilty rather to any given crime aren't given enough time. It's almost like a handslap. Don't do it again and lo and behold, there they are back in court again,

are involved with the police again. So that's one I think that's the biggest problem that we face by way of challenge. If we all got on board and we all said, yes, we need more police, we're going to do more lateral hires, we're going to refill the ranks, we're going to start better patrolling. We'll come up with all the solutions for the police department to do whatever's

within their power to do. If there's nobody on the tail end providing the justice that's necessary, the deterrence effect that's part of the justice system, then it's a pointless gesture. And I know you have talked to officers and uh and I told you before. My sister's retired police officer. She still has a lot of friends and they stay

in time. And I've talked to other people and we had a judge on yesterday Betsy Sunderman also the same conclusion that morale is in the toilet and police don't have any incentive to actually do their job and enforce the law.

do that, then where is the critical thinking. You're not supposed to write like it's supposed to be interpretation of the law. But you're just letting these people out over and over and over again. And the truth is is there are very few people who are doing most of the crimes. It's not that you know, and that is why you're seeing them over and over and over again. And there is no deterrence for them. And that is clear in Cincinnati, they criminals are making fools of them.

They are not afraid of the cops, they are not afraid of judges. They are are killing there. There's a murder every single night. And also the crime that is happening, all of those can easily escalate to murder. So even when the chief of police is saying, well, we only have five percent of crime is murder.

right now, We'll be right back with Sarah Herringer. Don't go away fifty five KRC dot com. Here's trending now, Tippers Shannon and I first one to weather forecast. Got a uh midday storms they say are very likely, so expect some rain today and expecting humidity to drop throughout the day, which is a welcome relief. Eighty three for

the high, overnight low sixty five. Clear sky's got a sunny, beautiful day tomorrow, the high of eighty and no humidity sixty one, the overnight low clear and on Saturday, another partly sunny day, another high of eighty seventy four degrees. Right now, let's get a traffic update from the UCF Traffic Center.

to provide a better path in a better way. I mean, it is my nineteenth year and radio I've had more discussions I even can remember about that, and without fail, almost one hundred percent, everyone will point the blame at the criminal problem, the crime problem at the hands of the loss of the nuclear family, the fact that these children don't live in a loving environment, even just if

it's one parent. And I think that, I mean that right there, what you said, that there's somewhere where this child ultimately goes and calls home, that there's not a person there fretting and worrying over the fact that they're eight nine year old child isn't home by midnight even oh yeah, absolutely on any given night. I don't care if it's a Saturday or Tuesday.

first offense. The one, the kid who had actually set fire to the boxes, that was his third arson charge. And in between the time of him being caught and booked for arson of our truck and showing up for his first day of court, he had also been tagged with a agglevated burglary attempt. And so the and this is this is a juvenile and you know, even if we want to talk about the juvenile court system, I mean that the whole idea behind that right was rehabilitate first,

punished second. But that started back when kids were shoplifting, not when they were doing the type of crime that they are committing now, and including crime, yes, ye exactly, murder, theft, assault, rape. These are very different crimes that kids are committing these days, and again not the type that you're you know, a child that has secure attachment and their needs met and parents not not the same outcomes rightly, clearly, and uh, you know.

show up. It ended up being far more of a pain for us getting subpoena, for Patrick getting subpoena all the time, and he's like, no, I don't want to charge the parents' money. I want this kid to stop being a menace to society, and there's nothing in the system to hold them accountable. So we ended up just being like, ah, just you know, leave it, like it's I can't keep being subpoena and stop everything that I'm doing. It had been well more than a year and we're

still dealing with this. And the other thing was in the summer of twenty three, and this was a really big issue. We're in the market district, family market area and our business was broken into multiple times, now multiple business it's over nine businesses in that market area had been broken into. There is a bar that ended up having to go out of business because they were broken into so many times. At some point you're like, you can't You're going to be unensurable. You can't keep firing

or filing. And we you know, the business owners we had congregated, we we were meeting with city council trying to get help, trying to get help. I ended up having to go to the media then as well in order to get any type of response from the city. And then they put a beat cop down there during the day so people coming in would feel safe. And it's like that is not when criminals are doing crime.

So again it's already then we see optics and not doing the work to protect the business owners of that area. And the truth is there was no policing done. We had on our instance, they sent over a cop. She had a tiny little notepad. Ouh, you were broken into no fingerprints. We had cameras, they did not ask for footage at all. There was nothing as far as looking for the actual person. And then there was one one guy who was arrested, the one who actually did the

break in. One night, we had seven people break in at once because the one guy broke in and multiple people came in. Patrick had to go, my husband had to go and find that person and have choice words because he kept trying to break in during business hours. Even there's no the criminals do not fear police, They do not fear repercussions. And so Patrick and that's you know, we handled it in a way. He's a pretty intimidating

looking guy. And you know, the other guy didn't come back, but he even went to the police and was like, I can show you where he is. And the one that they they did end up arresting, who truly was mentally ill and really didn't do a lot of harm.

That is so clear from the police department at this point because they're humans and how many times can you just see the same criminal release before you're like, what am I doing?

And speaking of solutions, I'm going to talk to Sarah about some of the ones that they have put in place and whether she believes any of them are bearing any fruit along the positive lines direction seven thirty nine. Right now, if if do you have Kersey talk station OKAUE.

Generally speaking, you had mentioned to me this Act Act Initiative initiative. Yeah, there, it's on the city website.

And so you might even have well intended and good people, but they're not competent enough to measure the outcomes of something because they don't exist and they think they're doing a great job and they're not.

my safety or anything. I worked some goofy hours. You didn't get there at five o'clock in the morning, and sometimes you were you know, you hit the bar afterwards. And yes I was underage. They didn't really care back then, and maybe not get home until eleven o'clock. So I was there in different hours, but never I never was concerned. Parked on the street, walked by myself to my car. I wouldn't do that now to save my soul.

opposite direction. Why because they embrace this sort of liberal philosophy when it comes to meeting out punishment in the criminal justice system. We'll have a few more minutes with Sarah Herringer. Take a quick break.

and stabbed her late husband to death. And this has given her a platform to bring to everyone's attention, most notably those who might not be inclined to vote in an election. I will say I'll volunteer that, Sarah. I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but at least you know you're in a position because of this that people are paying attention to what you're saying. Right, You're a provider of valuable information and with the spotlight on you. People are like, oh my god, I did

not know that was going on. I did not know that we had no accountability with these programs. I didn't realize the judicial system was this broke when you got judges releasing these repeat offenders over and over again. So I know my listening audience, and I certainly applaud your efforts in doing this because in spite of the tragedy that you have to deal with and continue to cope with,

at least you have the limelight for a while. Do you think there is any possibility as we fast approach the November election, we have a complete Democrat council, and I don't think that necessarily means that they are against police or not. But we know over the past forty years what has happened within downtown Cincinnati. We know we're down on police numbers. We know they didn't get ahead

of the police department numbers loss. We know that they in some cases maybe of allocated resources that should have gone to law enforcement or public safety in other directions. Do you think there's still hope for the city. I mean, would an administration change or a shakeup on the membership of council or maybe the mayor. And I know it's an unlikely scenario that the city's going to start, you know,

maybe turn to Corey Bowman. But do you think a seat change on council and leadership might help?

time is spent on STEM. You only learn about the political system if you choose to major as a political science major. But there needs to be a demand of transparency and accountability for whomever is in leadership, and the leadership now what they they could change? You know, if we go back to cancel culture even it's like, why don't you give people an opportunity to make changes and

show us can they or will they? And if they won't, then yeah, I think that's it's a pretty good argument for getting someone out and giving someone who is saying that they're in alignment with your values and want what you want a really good chance.

recovery in the aftermath. It's very emotional time for you. But again, I really truly applaud your efforts and trying to get people engaged and involved. And if you could ask something of my listening audience, I mean, what would you say, I mean, be more like me and bring this to people's attention, talk about it more. I mean, any advice or something you would ask of them.

up the great work, Sarah. And if you ever need a voice, if you ever have something to pass along, if you get additional developments you want to spread farther and wider, you are more than welcome to just even place a phone call here to the fifty five KRC More and Shore, or make the trip back in. I love having the studio.

of that he died saving her life. So wanted to make sure that everyone knew that because Sarah thought it a very important and yes, a very important detail concerning the quality and character of the late Patrick Herringer. Welcome back to the fifty five KRSE Morning Show. Completely changing gears to a very positive meeting. Apparently we have on the program the return of Ohio's Secretary of State, Frank LeRose. Frank, it is always a real pleasure having you on the program.

I can tell you it's been a complete change of attitude with the Trump administration, and what they're doing is truly remarkable because they're pulling together all these different parts of the federal government, and isn't that what an executive is supposed to do and getting them to actually do the job you see, the Social Security Administration has good data on who has died because they don't want to send those Social Security checks anymore.

people say and yes, yes, we can do this. We can find a way to access this information, by the way, in a way that is secure and maintains confidentiality for people's personal information. But we can use the vast troves of data that the federal government has to maintain accurate voterals.

really good, valuable information on who's died. What possible reason could they articulate for not letting you have it? Because federal law does not allow dead people to vote in elections. You want those off the rolls just to prevent fraud from happening. Isn't that a concept that should be universally embraced, regardless of political strife.

Ten years ago, this didn't exist, but every month the Department of Health tells us who has passed. We used that list to remove them from the vtererals. The challenge comes in about people that pass away in another state or even God forbid, out of the country, because the depth record is generally created where the person is deceased. So if you're at your place in the Carolinas or Florida or whatever else and.

a great deal of arrogance. In fact, a person from the Department of Homeland Security last year, when we were asking them to be able to query their database using common numbers like last four of US Social Security never repaired with data of birth, full name, address that kind of thing. She was saying, well, we used to allow states to do that, but we think that they were misusing it.

really high tax states that everybody's fled. I think some of them even said the quiet part out loud, is we need of these people here for the purpose of maintaining a certain number of representatives in the House. But more fundamentally, if they're allowed to vote, this certainly could be large numbers influencing the outcome of the election.

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Chuck Ingram on fifty five cares see the talk station.

seems like yesterday. I know that they try to put some measure of blame on the air traffic controllers, but it's been revealed that apparently the altimeters really aren't up stuff in the black Hawk helicopters, and they might have not even known what altitude that they were flying. I saw an article, I guess on Fox saying the Army acknowledge that Blackhawk helicopter altimeters maybe more than one hundred feet off, before adding that their pilots aim to maintain

altitude with one hundred feet of e limit. I guess aiming to and accomplishing it two completely different things. But altimeter issues, but the other thing that almost was more troubling. I know, you've got a lot of strong words for the Federal Aviation Administration pro and con, but the FAA didn't make any route changes or provide polets with any warnings despite eighty five near misses in the past three years.

These are military flights, and I think I asked you when this first came out, Jay, why in the hell do they have to fly so close to an airport that's got jets coming in and out of it.

place right next to a large commercial airport. And we've had issues and this has been on the radar for the FAA for a number of years about how this has become in their words, you know, in my estimation, they looked at it as more of an annoyance than something that was directly related to a safety issue, because again, the air traffic control team in the military have worked well together to make sure that these you know, near accidents didn't become accidents, and it took something like this

for everybody to kind of wake up and say, wait a minute, we've been flirting with this disaster scenario for such a long period of time. It was just something that was pretty much waiting to happen. But when it first took place, the first thing that hit all of us was the fact that the aircraft that was descending was at an altitude that should have been well above

where that helicopter was allowed to be. And knowing that it was higher than that suggests that, okay, either the crew made a mistake and ignored some of the or misinterpreted the air traffic control communication, or there could have been something mechanical going on with their aircraft. And when we hear the altimeters are not completely reliable as we would like to and I'm thinking, how in the heck is that possible to the military aircraft where you would

want everything to be. You took for the crew standpoint absolutely perfect. It makes you think, why what? And you know, that's the first time that I had heard of the fact that the equipment on board that type of a helicopter is less than one hundred percent reliable. That means that some of this stuff is subjective, left up to the crew to do your best. And to me, that is just that's not aviation, that's the old days of

crop dusting. We're talking about state of the art technology that these men and women should be able to have and the fact that they didn't. Now whether or not that did or did not contribute to the to the crash, we don't know, but it's obvious that most flight crews would not have been that far out of position. The regional jet was where it was supposed to be, the helicopter was not, and sadly that's what led to the disaster.

So they have the evacuation process where the flight attendants are screaming, leave your hand, carry bags behind, get off the airplane. Now, remember ninety seconds is what we should be looking at, getting everybody off that aircraft. Well, everybody's going down the chute. And then of course afterwards you see the video of people strolling across the tarmac with what bags of wheels behind us? Now wait a minute, that would suggest that these idiots stopped and collected their

large overhead compartment luggage and slowed the evacuation process. Now, Brian, if it were me the FAA, I would say, I'm finding every one of these people one hundred thousand dollars fifty. I would find them to the point that it smacked them up side the head with one of these things. Because it was back in twenty sixteen, American Airlines had a aircraft in Chicago on fire. It took four and a half minutes or so to get everybody off the airplane.

No nobody was injured or nobody died. There were some minor injuries. The National Transportation Safetyboard, in their usual incredible all star effort a year later, came out with their final report. One of the things they cited, this is in twenty seventeen, was that passengers need to be held accountable if they slowed the evacuation process, because that's what delayed that flight and everybody getting off not ninety seconds

but four and a half minutes. So the thought back then, the recommendation seven years ago, was let's do something about this. We've not twenty nineteen, Aeroflot aircraft gets hit by lightning. They land, the aircraft's on fire. The whole back of the airplanes on fire. They can only evacuate out the front.

The video shows people coming down the exit ramps, one after the other, after the other after the other, and then it stops for like eight seconds, and then you see this idiot with three large bags taking his big butt off the airplane. Moments later, the airplane blows up. Forty one people die. Do you think that that guy caused the death of people behind him. Absolutely, So, Brian, this is such a huge issue that we're just not addressing.

And that's one of the reasons when I see that, the fact that people have completely ignored the instructions of a uniform crew member, which is a felony by the way, not being held accountable, it really bothers me. So that's what happened in Denver. But the Congressman is not necessarily

addressing that. He says, Look, we have a ninety second evacuation rule in aviation, and he's saying that you know, as you and I know, that every aircraft approved for commercial use has to demonstrate that that plane can be evacuated safely in ninety seconds or less when half of the exits are blocked in limited visibility. Now, to make sure this is the case, the FAA does a test every few years to make sure that we're still in compliance. So they took a group of people, ran the test,

stamped it as approved. This was about five years ago. This congressman thing time I hear there were no children used in this test. There were no unaccompanied children, there were no children traveling with passengers or their families. We had no elderly passengers we had no service animals. We had people of average size.

to me unforgivable. And what's going to happen is, sadly, eventually you and I are going to have the very sad conversation where something happens, people die, and that's when these same people who are doing nothing now are going to pull that hamstring running to the nearest microphone so they can proclaim how they care and how they're going to make sure this doesn't happen again and all the other craft that's going to come out of their mouth,

now's the time to do something about it. And with these liftium batteries that continue to overheat on a flight at least once a week, these emergency evacuations are only going to increase in frequency. So if there's never been a more critical time for this discussion than now, I don't know what is. And we've got to do something about it.

orders of the flight attendant. I'm sure the flight attendant said some of the effects, we're going to emergency evacuate, leave your stuff where it is.

legal murky waters of okay, this is subjective. Is my large hand car roller bag bigger or smaller than your backpack that you had carried down? In other words, is everybody again fine? Only part of them? Begin Whatever it is, something's got to be done to send a message.

that's going to do is slow the evacuation. Muscle memory also comes into play during an emergency evacuation when people reach for their seat belts. We found in emergencies they don't look to lift the flap. They do as they do in a car. In an emergency, they're putting their hand down there to push a button that's not there.

And that's one of the reasons the pre mark of the pre flight briefing, the flight attends are reminding everyboy, look, when you're getting out your seatbelt, you lift the flap. Most people are just laughing at that. No, there's a reason for it, because we've had people trapped in their seats because they couldn't get their seat belt off because they're subconsciously just trying to push a button instead of looking down and lifting that flap.

being worked out, but that was the reason. Initially when it happened, we didn't know what the problem was, but later on we were given the details and yeah, that's that's what was going on in that situation.

an NFL contract or a baseball contract. You know you're going to be in it for a number of years, and you want to make sure that you are being paid, you know, adequate to what everybody else is making. And most of these agreements you want to be slightly above the average so that you know you're going to be stuck with us for three, four, five years, that some

of this is going to come into play. And the flight attends are saying, look, we've helped United become a much better airline over the last several years and it's their turn to, in essence, make up for our past sacrifices. So anytime you're getting into this back and forth with salary, it's it's a difficult scenario. I loved Alaska Airlines and

how they approach this with their flight attendants. They gave them at the time an industry leading benefit package and salary, and they said, if there's any agreement after this that comes out that makes this unfair, that's not the word, but you know what I mean, we'll readjust it and we will make it appropriate. So that was great. Other airlines,

that's not necessarily the case. But you know, if you're an American flight attendant, you're hoping the United crews get a real nice pay raise because then when you go to the negotiating table, the hope is you're going to get something comparable. So you seventy six percent of them said no, thank you to a twenty six percent pay raise.

But if you're heading to the airport and you're connecting through Detroit on Delta, definitely get to the airport early and then Boston is going to get it later in the day, probably New York. So if you're flying to the Northeast, just do not be late. Get to the airport tours before departure. That way, if your itinerary is impacted, you know they've got a chance to take care of you if there's a change to your itinerary.

Thanks brother. Eight fifty four to fifty five K Seedy talks stations and what a distinct pleasure it was to have Sarah Herringer in studio, the widow of Patrick Herringer, who was murdered in their home in Over the Rhine on June fourth, And again reminder, we didn't talk about it. We were trying to steer clear of the details of the murder itself at her request, and of course I understand that, but sort of an exclamation point on what a terrific guy we lost in this horrific crime. He

did die saving her life. So I felt the need to point that out since she mentioned it to me off air, And she's just just a terrific woman doing doing what she can right now to bring the problems of crime in the city of Cincinnati to everybody's attention while she has the light to the limelight to do it. Secretary of State Frank Lrose was some good news on election integrity. He spent the day with a whole bunch of Secretary's of State from around the country with Donald

Trump on election integrity and sharing the data. Yeah, it would be nice to know if they've got a list of you know, dead people to share it with US. Apparently a lot of hurdles thrown the way of Secretary of States like Frank Lrose and others from the r Our administration. They got it all ironed out. Listen to what he had to say on that, and of course my conversation with Jay rathlup. It's all a fifty five KRC dot com on the podcast page. Thank you Joe

Strecker for winding up the guests. I truly appreciate that and all that you do to make the show go, because with that you wouldn't enjoy that twenty six percent pay ratio. I hope everybody knows that that is the absolute farthest thing from the truth. I hope you continue tomorrow Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Great segment one that you definitely need to listen to to keep you out of trouble. At least he's trying. So we'll do that tomorrow.

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