¶ Empowering Women Through Movement
Hi to all of you , welcome back to another episode of Brian's Run Pod , and before we dive into today's interview with the incredible Jana Barrett , I just wanted to take a moment to say a big , heartfelt thank you to all of my listeners .
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Your support is what keeps this podcast going , and I hope you're all enjoying the content as much as I enjoy bringing it to you . Now about today's episode . I'm really excited for you to hear this one . I had the pleasure of chatting with Jana Barrett , a body movement specialist who also describes herself as a feminine warrior .
I do have to start with a quick apology for pronouncing her name wrong at the beginning . She was kind enough to correct me , so all sorted there . Jana offers a truly unique style of training and I think you're going to find her approach as fascinating as I did .
I split the podcast into two parts for this episode , so in the first part , jana talks about her journey with exercise and how she discovered this new exercise regime focused on ability . In the second part we dive deeper into her role as a TAC fit instructor and what that means for her training philosophy .
So , without further ado , let's jump straight into it , and I really do hope you enjoy our chat as much as I did . So you're thinking about running , but not sure how to take the first step . My name is Brian Patterson and I'm here to help . And welcome to Brian's Rompod .
So hey there , running enthusiasts , welcome back to another episode of Brian's RunPod , where we dive into inspiring stories of local runners , athletes and experts on the world of fitness .
I'm your host , brian Patterson , and today we have a truly special guest who's not only transformed her own life through movement , but is also an empowering and countless women to do the same Now , as you know , I'm all for interviewing guests that can provide alternative to traditional forms of training .
So , anyway , back in 2002 , jana Barrett made a life-changing move to New Zealand and embraced the joys and challenges of motherhood with three beautiful children and , like many of us , she found herself caught up in the whirlwind of daily life , where personal care took a back seat to family and responsibilities .
Fast forward 10 years and Jana found herself , dealing with aches , pains and realisation that she had forgotten about her own well-being . But Jana didn't let that be her story's end . Frustrated and determined , she took a bold step by hiring her first trainer , and that decision sparked a profound transformation .
Within months , jana felt not just physically stronger , but mentally unstoppable . This newfound strength ignited a passion in her to help others , leading her to become a personal trainer herself in her to help others , leading her to become a personal trainer herself .
Today , jana is the first and only certified female task fit trainer instructor in New Zealand , a proud badge she wears with honour . She's also certified in personal training , kettlebell instruction , strength and conditioning . And Jana's mission is clear to empower women to nurture and move their bodies , enabling them to live their lives to the fullest .
We'll be diving deep into her journey , discussing the power of movement and how she's building a tribe of strong , amazing women capable of taking on the world . So lace up your running shoes and get comfortable , and let's get inspired by the incredible Jana Barrett . Welcome to the podcast . That's quite an introduction .
It is yeah and sorry , Brian , I didn't tell you that my name is pronounced Jana .
Jana , sorry , I do . I do apologize .
I normally say that my biggest apologies .
Yeah . So anyway , Gian Jana , how are you today ?
I am great . Thank you , Brian . Thank you for having me . I'm so looking forward to this conversation .
Yeah , so I just wanted to start off really by finding out a little bit about your kind of relationship with exercise at school or growing up .
I grew up in the communist Czech Republic .
Oh right , oh , I see .
So I grew up behind the Iron Curtain . So I had a really blessed childhood in a way that it was a very wild one in the countryside , so I was actually not involved in any structured sport activities . I had a bike and we ice skated and we ran around , we built forts .
We just had a very unstructured kind of wild childhood where we basically weren't allowed to come home . We were given a sandwich and sent on our merry way with a group of other children and when the church struck five o'clock in the evening , oh right , okay , and what sort of things were you doing ? So we rode out of everywhere in the country .
It was no good . We stole fruit from orchards .
Okay .
We built forts in the forest , we foraged for berries in the , in the , you know , in the woods yeah he swam . In winter we ice skated and skied cross-country skied . It was just a very beautiful kind of wild was there any sort of like at school ?
was there any kind of you know ? Was physical exercise part of the curriculum ?
Yeah , yes , yes it was . We played games mainly . It was a while ago , Brian .
Okay .
But no , we did . I remember high school PE too . It was , you know know , we did country running and did a little bit of gymnastics and yeah , just just what probably children do , even you know now here in new zealand quite similar yeah , yeah , yeah , so sort of fast forward a few years then .
So when you left school or did you do any sort of exercise when you were in university or in your working life early on ?
No , I didn't . So I went to university and studied early childhood teaching and then primary school teaching .
Right , okay .
We had PE just as a part of the course . It was quite similar to what we did in high school , and then I moved to Britain where I became a nanny of three very busy boys .
Oh right .
Till probably I had my own children . I never actually really engaged in any structured exercise like the gym or purposely running or doing any kind of sport , so I really just started doing that when I moved to New Zealand and my own family .
Right , right , right . So I mean , as I said in the introduction , so you kind of , I mean , exercise wasn't really in your life , in the first , you know after you left school or after you had any university . It wasn't really so . What was that point where you felt that maybe something needs to change ?
So I was a busy mom of three children , and you know that's a reasonably active job .
Yeah .
You know I've moved to New Zealand and New Zealand and New Zealanders really take advantage of the environment we live in .
Yeah .
New Zealand is incredibly active people Everybody's walking , hiking , surfing , biking , you know , skiing , snowboarding . It's a very active nation and a country and my children were really active . They signed up for heaps of sports . They were playing cricket and football , doing gymnastics , swimming , surf , life-saving .
So I realized quickly that I'm going to have to keep up with these kids if I wanted to be an active , an active , fun mom , and I started because it was busy , you know , the kids were small and I just doing was doing a little bit of yoga and running , actually okay , I was around , okay , I was running , because my husband then had a very busy career in
the film industry and all right .
Oh , I see of time .
Well , I was one of those people that I had to fit in exercise very early in the morning before you went to work . Before then I looked after the children full time , yeah . So I was on the trails at a crack of dawn , and I am very fortunate I live on a peninsula in Wellington and I have beautiful trails all around here .
So I've done up my sneakers three to five times a week and just went for a little 20 to kind of 40 minute trail run .
Oh right , very nice . Can I ask was the reason you moved to New Zealand ? Was it because of your husband's job or is it just something ? Was a decision you made collectively ?
as a couple . So my husband is a New Zealander so I came here then met him here oh I think it was 22 years ago and I'm still here . I have three little , you know , three little New Zealanders living , you know , as children . So it's quite fun oh right , okay , so .
So you've kind of you . You , I said again , I said in the introductions that you decided to employ a personal trainer . What you know , what brought you to that decision at the time .
I think my body went through three pregnancies in three years and I was , my body was broken , I was not strong , I was constantly in pain , I had aches in places and I was constantly putting my back out . Because , you know , dealing with small children , it's a physically very challenging job . You are carrying , you know , little car seats with babies .
You're putting seats in the cars , lifting , twisting , You're on the floor a lot and my body just wasn't up for it . And I remember my youngest was like six months old and my husband just left on a five-day fishing trip where he had no telephone reception .
Oh right .
Put my back out in a spectacular fashion . I had to just lie down on the floor for hours . I was in so much pain and there was the deciding moment . There was like that ice cream on the floor moment and I thought , that's it , I'm just not doing this anymore . Yeah , need to do something about this .
And then , literally after the injury has resolved , I hired my first person all right , okay , and so was there .
So was it kind of like going to be kind of like a once a week thing , and then you kind of added it on to your existing exercise regime yes , so I worked out twice a week with her , just locally and I was still running a little bit and I loved yoga .
I think I loved yoga for the . It was time for me and it was a bit of stillness and a bit of space for me in the chaos that you know , the beautiful chaos that young families are you know you're giving along . So I love my yoga .
I really did and I was running and then doing strength training at the gym , weightlifting with with a trainer I mean I totally .
I mean I . I mean my kids are roughly about the same age , probably to yours , I mean . So I have two girls , so but I know it is kind of quite a pressure , although we look fondly to those days .
But at the time you know you're , at the time , you know there's there's a lot going on and there's a lot of pressure going on and stress you know , everything like that so and , of course , a little time to yourself yes , exactly which is you know yeah .
So so was it that you thought that you know , you , you've had this training from the person that you thought , well , oh , sort of I could do this , you know I could do this was , was that after a few months , or ?
yes , it was about three months mark and I realized how much stronger I became , not only physically , but I was loving the mental strength and the , the resilience and the grit that the weightlifting brought .
Like it was a challenge , it was something that I was doing just purely for me and I loved it and I really appreciated that mental strength from it and I thought I think more women need to know about this , because obviously I had a lot of friends who had young children and they often forget themselves and put themselves really last in families and their bodies
suffer . Because now I coach women in their 40s and 50s .
Yeah .
So I get women that just have never really found their exercise routine again having children , and I thought I was looking at a bit of a change of career . I didn't want to go back to teaching because I had small children at home and I thought , well , why don't I do personal training ?
It's still teaching , it will be flexible , you know , I can choose my own hours . It will be great job , and then I can help women find not only the physical strength but the mental strength as well yeah , yeah , and I suppose , in a way , you're kind of incorporating the two .
I mean , you're choosing something that you're very kind of passionate about , but also incorporating the career that you you had . So in terms of teaching , you know , correction , that kind of things . Very same principles , but you know , two adults as opposed to children , yeah , a lot of cross-sewing .
I'm still teaching different demographic and different content , but it's pretty much still teaching so how did it feel going back to ?
I mean , you know you , your career was teaching and obviously you went through a degree but then you had to go back to learning again was . How does that feel at the time ?
I loved it . I loved the challenge because , you know , by that stage I spent years and years almost a decade really looking after children and I wasn't . I was mentally challenged in a different way , but not really intellectually challenged . I found my , you know , reading books and things like that . So I loved it .
I loved the subject matter , I loved I forgot how much I loved chemistry at school as well , because you know I was obviously studying biochemistry in my personal training course .
All right .
How you know energy is produced and what needs to happen and macronutrients , and I was kind of like I used to love chemistry at school . It was so interesting and just learning about different exercises and putting programs together . I loved it , absolutely loved it . It was some .
It was six months , um , it was quite part-time so I was able to fit it around family life too , which was what I really needed .
But , yeah , loved it , loved being challenged , loved learning new things and and just thinking about all the clients that were like literally waiting for me to to , you know , to qualify and start working and then I could just go and change people's lives in the way that my personal trainer changed mine all right , so you had a ready , ready-made market as soon as
you finished . So yeah , a lot of people interested , a lot of friends
¶ Revolutionizing Fitness for Women
. First I started with friends and then I started working at a gym a traditional kind of weightlifting , you know , backs and legs kind of you know really typical traditional kind of weightlifting . And I didn't realize that women are actually quite scared to go to the gym and a lot of them are quite intimidated .
Yeah , I can understand that , yeah that you know who's waiting for you is also a woman inside the gym . There was that barrier that I removed for a little bit and I I loved it and I just still to this day . I get so excited about people's results and transformations and now , you know , I do slightly different things .
I probably get people more out of pain now . In those days I was still getting people , I was still doing weight loss and just general conditioning and weight lifting . Now I do quite different type of training and so , but the transformations are amazing . That's what gets me out of bed every day .
I really believe that that's my purpose in life is to empower women and to get people out of pain .
Do you think that's just the trend in terms of fitness ? It's moved away from that kind of strength and conditioning and weight loss . It's moved into kind of other areas of injury prevention , rehabilitation , that kind of thing .
Yes , I've really noticed a massive shift around COVID , I think a lot of people realized that , especially at our age .
So between that 45 and 60 , which is where most of my clients are , I think that there is a massive shift now to using exercise as a longevity tool and a modality to be able to live a very full , vibrant life for as long as people possibly can , and so people are more now conscious of leaving the the kind of the past where women , especially women , were
generally exercising to look a certain way and to lose weight , to be skinny and yeah . Yeah , now you see , women are going to gyms and lifting heavy weights to preserve the strength of their bones and lean muscle mass , to avoid dementia and Alzheimer's , to prevent heart disease , to have… .
Bone density and… yeah , everything .
The research is literally just pouring out as well .
Now there's so much stuff , the studies and research coming out basically weekly about how exercise is one of the most potent things you can do for your health yeah and not just physical health , but mental health , emotional health , brain health or cognitive health and yeah and physical health , but mental health , emotional health , brain health or cognitive health , and I
think we're becoming more . we are the generation that's becoming more and more , especially as women more aware of watching our grandmothers and mothers age , and we don't want to age like that yes in in assisted living , where we don't remember things and we are frail and we constantly breaking our bones because we have osteoporosis .
I think we are now choosing to do everything possible to age , you know , while doing anything we choose and living in our own homes .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , very good , very good point . I just want to come to the . Is it a TACFIT instructor ?
Yeah , tacfit , it's short for tactical fitness .
Oh , tactical fitness . Could you explain a little bit more about that and how you came across it ?
so I discovered tech fit first through a colleague of mine that was working in the same gym and I was still weightlifting and doing that type of training for myself and for my clients . But I was . I was just being a bit bored with it after a few years and I , although I was much stronger , I was still quite achy .
I still had achy back time to time and I had quite a bit of injuries and I had a lot of tension in the body and I was just starting to look at some other ways
¶ Functional Fitness With Steel Mace
to exercise . And then I saw this man in the gym and he was swinging a club bell and I was looking at him and he was doing a lot of mobility . He was doing like really beautiful mobility flows with his clients and he's running small group classes .
And I was looking at him and I thought , wow , that looks way more interesting than anything I'm doing in the gym barbells and dumbbells , because when you imagine so , the club bell is basically looks like a baseball bat , but it's made out of metal .
Yeah , audience can't see it , but you can see them behind oh , yeah , that's right , yeah , yeah it's like a baseball bat but it's made out of metal and you can swing it around the body and you can do flows with it so you can transition from exercise to exercise , like from squat to a lunge to a press , all in one continuous flow .
And I was watching him and I thought that's so interesting and it made a lot more sense to me as a exercise to build kind of really strong humans all around life or sport and so I booked a session with him and he put me through a tech film and I just never looked back . I said this is what I want to do . I don't want to go back to the barbells .
I this so boring and I don't think it really gets people fed for like something like surfing . You know , like when you think about surfing , I have to do so many different things while I surf , and a deadlift and an overhead press with a barbell will never get me fit for that .
And so , and then I started training with him and learning about mobility , which was massively missing out of my routine , and I was kind of like this is making me feel so good and my shoulders are moving well and I'm losing all the tension and all the stiffness and I'm moving like I'm a young person again .
And and then all these tools like tech fit works with kettlebells and club bells , and now they've introduced steel mace as well , which is my biggest love , and I thought this is this is brilliant , like I need to bring this to more people . And at this stage , tech fit was still very focused on the tactical community .
So a lot of the , and I traveled to the us to certify in it the , the , the creator of it , and they're very clever people like you know , scottson and who wrote techfit was . Was was in russia like 10 years studying their special forces and how they dealt with exercise and stress , and it was a phenomenal body of work .
But at that time it was very targeted for the really so , either the tactical community , so the soldiers , the , the um policemen , firemen and it was it was all like , even though their website was very much about big , strong , muscly , extremely fit men . But I wanted to do tech fit for normal people yeah just moms and dads people .
They're in their 40s or 50s or 60s , so I kind of modified it slightly to just normal people and then , after I certified I I love tech , fit to this day .
I think it's the one of the most superior way how to condition the human body , either for love or for any sport , however complex that sport is because the thing I like about it is that it's like a dance , and and also the other thing is that it really incorporates those stabilizing muscles which maybe traditional strength training doesn't do , you know , and and
that's like another keyword , like you were talking just incorporating what you were saying earlier about lifting children , that kind of thing , you know , or even in your working life , lifting boxes or that kind of thing . It helps you , prepare you for those movements .
Absolutely , and I think that what also these functional tools really focus on building the strength in your joints and connective tissue and also using the body as a whole unit .
So it doesn't make sense to me that you would go to gym and you would do back and chest , because in daily life you know when you think about someone running through a forest , they're using every single muscle in their body .
When I surf , I use every single muscle especially when you're doing surfing yeah , synergy is a symphony of everything working together , so it never made sense to me to be isolating muscle groups and putting them under so much tension in a very two-dimensional way , because traditionally we're about up and down , side to side .
But once you start seeing the steel mace or the club bell , you quickly realize that you can access multi-directional movements . But that's how life works , right ?
Sometimes you have to catch a child that's falling over , sweating and you're lunging , you're pushing , you're pulling , you're using power and agility and videos showing this , because I particularly liked the one which is on your website .
I think there's that drone shot of you on the beach doing it . I could watch that for ages , but it was beautiful . It looks really lovely .
I think it really appeals to our primal DNA , because the steel maze has been around since the beginning of dawn right . Yeah , the beginning of humans , because humans stripped rocks to sticks to hunt and defend themselves . So I think somehow it's actually wired into our ancestral DNA and the steel maze has been around for thousands of years .
It's nothing new , yeah . It's just that we , the West , didn't know about it and it's slowly coming and kind of , you know , seeping into more of the conventional fitness styles .
Yeah . So it's kind of like going back in time , as it were . You know , going back to our roots , you know the traditional exercises that we were doing yeah .